Get more DISTANCE in Disc Golf Even if You’re Short | JoeV Disc Golf|

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks for all the comments and support!

[@Figstahh]

Love the video. Im 5'6" and was stuck around the 350ft mark. After watching the video and working out some kinks for a couple of days, just broke the 400ft mark (402)! Thanks for the help! time to keep on grinding.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Yooo! That’s sick! Glad to hear the tips helped you, keep practicing it!

[@IronGoober]

Awesome man! Good work. 400 has been a struggle for me as well.

[@torbenhartig1675]

This is probably the best explaining disc golf video i have ever seen.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, dude! Glad you got something out of it.

[@grimr550]

Working on keeping everything stable like you said and on a line and driving the shoulder/elbow through really helps me.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Awesome, hope the practice goes well!

[@lancerobinson8738]

Loved how you described the timing of the acceleration...really felt the difference...

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

That’s awesome, glad the video helped you!

[@jtruant]

Great tips dude. Mindfully delaying the reach back as long as possible is a great idea to help my timing/rounding issues.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, glad you could get some use out of them! I've found that if you have an early reachback, and it feels like you're reaching back late, you're probably reaching back at the correct time. It just feels weird at first because your body is conditioned to reach back early every single time. Delaying the reachback also helps with accuracy because your eyes are off the target for less time, so it's a win-win!

[@Svenshine]

Hey this is a great gem that I’m glad to have found! I’m subscribed!! Pretty helpful thank you for sharing

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks! Glad it could help!

[@jasonh1580]

Very encouraging. I'm about 5'8" so this gives me a lot of hope for distance in the future. I love how you broke down your form.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Haha thank you. Let me know how the distance progression goes!

[@patrickruszkowski9182]

Great content - hope it reaches a lot of people. Thanks

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks so much! Glad you were able to pull some good things out of the vid!

[@jaminschmitt]

I saw video where gripping your disc harder right before release will create more spin. More spin means longer flights. I’ve been trying that seeing positive results and the fact that I am finally hearing and feeling the disc snap out of my hands and some of my drives are going about 30-40ft farther with less effort. Helping the disc out of your hands will produce shorter drives. I will grip the disc loosely right until my arm goes into the power pocket before gripping the disc hard.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

For sure. It helps with power and accuracy for a consistent release.

[@irishsetter48]

Thank you for making the video. Going to try the 3 points tomorrow. I think it will make a difference.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Awesome, good luck out there in the field!

[@OliverEnding]

Thanks for the tips! Can’t wait to get outside and start implementing them!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Glad you enjoyed the video, now get out and practice! haha

[@RickRobichaudDG]

Just found your video. Very good breakdown. I'll be using it for future reference. Thank you

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Awesome, glad to hear it helped! - Joe

[@aronatvw]

Great video! It often helps me to think of the physics of disc golf and I really enjoyed a more analytical approach to breaking down the throw.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Good to know, that works great because I love the analytical part too 👍👍.

[@FranciscoPerez_1421]

Bro!!! Thanks a lot! I use to throw like 370 feet and the tips you gave really helped me out!! I can now throw 445 feet consistently!! Watched all of overthrow disc golf videos and they weren’t really helping me out until I implemented the hockey analogy!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Bro, that's awesome! That's very close to where I'm at for distance. That's a huge improvement. Glad the hockey analogy helped, I couldn't tell which tips would be the best until I got feedback. Keep up the improvement! - Joe

[@Lankybrit52]

Great tips. Thanks very much. I was going to say your left foot was pointed back, but then you pointed it out 😀

[@zackp6794]

Great video! Subscribed. Looking forward to more content! Keep it up

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, man. Which tip was your favourite?

[@plugprod]

Nice to meet you and your dad today Joe. I'm liking what I see here on your channel and subscribed! Good luck with your throwing, your family must be proud!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Great to meet you today too, thanks so much!

[@gld3gld3]

This was one of the best videos I've seen on this topic!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks so much, glad you liked it!

[@TheTeamdom]

Thanks Joe, great insights! 😊

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you!

[@vcocciolone]

I've watched many other DG distance videos on the YT. You brought something not only new but also most useful! Thanks!

[@vcocciolone]

Oh yeah ... also.. good production. Subbed ... Rock on.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks so much bro. I have more videos planned soon!

[@Daniel-from-Texas]

Great video. Very well done and informative.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks so much my dude!

[@s0ftism]

Top notch video! One of the best form videos I have seen yet, and I have watched almost all of them.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, man. Means a lot!

[@AIKIDOSILVERDALE]

good video man, appreciate all the work that went into this

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks!

[@martinbratenstangjordet8280]

Very good analysis!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks, man!

[@LeonLJ]

2:54 Brother flipping us noodle arms off.... Hahahha, just kidding man. Great video! :)

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

LOL thanks man

[@Tsxtasy1]

Great tips, thank you!!!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, glad I could be helpful!

[@CoreyCaplan]

great video duder - the brainy mixed with the practical in a digestible package is the critical cocktail for form analysis.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Haha thank you. I tend to nerd out sometimes, especially with disc golf (no cure) 😂 I thought the graph of speed vs time was pretty cool, that’s my favourite part of the vid. Which tip is your favourite?

[@CoreyCaplan]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 cant wait to start bodychecking my throws in the field / engaging quads when planting / delay the almighty coil. So...lots of takeaway my man.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

@@CoreyCaplan don’t forget that you have to imagine breaking open a watermelon 😂

[@a-a-ronk.340]

Great video and really nice form man. Good shit.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Haha thank, man! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@isaiahallen1346]

By far the most useful “distance tip” video I’ve seen..

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, man. Glad it was helpful.

[@balance_dg]

Absolutely loved your insights. You have great knowledge of how your body works! Very impressive what you're putting into words. Will be following your progress!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Glad it was helpful! I will probably be posting more once my university term is over, can't wait haha.

[@Cad1900]

Great video thank you 🙏. You’re smart and have a lot of great ideas and suggestions. I particularly like the timing tip regarding reaching back too soon. Just realized that’s exactly what I’ve been doing lately. Ive lost a small bit of distance and I know that’s why.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks so much, glad you could get some use out of the video. Timing comes with practice for sure, but practicing correctly is super important. Even the subtle timing difference I pointed out in the video of my old form led to more variation in the throw.

[@douganderson6032]

Good video. Well thought through and explained. You asked for a tip for your form. I can't do it, but Drew Gibson takes his off hand and drives is down and towards his body while doing the whip... this gives him another way of compressing his shoulders to help with the whip. All this being said, I wish my form looked as good as yours.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Good thinking, someone else pointed that out too. I’m gonna try that during my next practice session.

[@RobWirdWachsen]

would love to see a more in depth break down of how your form has changed and how that has impacted distance/consistency (I know you talked about better timing and less rounding, but just looking at the old footage it was hard for me to see what exactly was going on. Tbh, it doesn't really look to me like your arm was extended for much longer than more recently)

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

That’s actually a great idea, I would love to make a video like that. If you go back and look at the old footage, it’s subtle, but my windup is early compared to my current form. This can cause the disc to he pulled upward before you throw, or can lead to rounding (or both).

[@jameswilliams4445]

Thanks. I’m 5 4 and would be happy with consistent 300. Great advice.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you. Hey bro don’t settle, I used to think 350 was my ceiling. Just look at Emerson Keith too!

[@adrianfyi]

Hey brother, just stumbled upon this video and appreciate the tips and insight you put into it! I wish I found it sooner. I’m excited to put this into practice and one day throw as far as you. Keep up the good work and good luck on your journey!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks so much man!

[@drewbsn]

fantastic teaching!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, bro! Which part of the vid was your favourite?

[@bigdiscenergy]

Great tips! I leave my lower body out of my throw a lot when im working on my upper body form. Lately working on my grip and release angle for accuracy. Going to try to use your suggestion about engaging my quads more. Always find some random tips on yt here to help me improve.🤘

[@Filijon]

Solid tips! Try waiting a bit longer before you push of with your brace foot. Should feel like getting low and pushing off for a high jump. Not like trying to get the foot to the ground as fast as possible. More like pushing through the ground with all your weight. Right now you are basically straightining your leg before front foot even lands. Looks like you think too much about pushing off. It will have the same result as delaying your reach back. Think of it as a long motion that accelerates through the end, just like you said about the whip. A good cue is to push off when the upper arm is in line with the front quad, give or take.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks for the tip, I’ll try it out next time.

[@battlehardened3905]

This is great! Thank you for making it!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks! Thanks for watching it. These vids are nothing without all the viewers :)

[@matthewallan274]

Love the data and science!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks, man. I went into DG nerd mode a bit, and I had the most fun making the data-driven parts of the vid. Glad you enjoyed that too!

[@1134jeff]

Good info to try out. 👍

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you! Let me know how it goes when you apply the tips. Which part was your favourite?

[@mindlander]

Great tip for sure.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Glad it was helpful!

[@smikema]

Awesome video. Very insightful and well produced.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed!

[@ryansuter4424]

Well done! Thank you

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks, man! Glad you liked the video:)

[@tjk728]

Just came across your channel, great tips! I have been thinking the dg world needs more content aimed at shorties. I am 5’3” and have been on a form journey the last couple years that has gotten me up to a consistent 415-430’ - hoping to bump that up a little bit more. Your form is top notch! I agree with your assessment about your left foot. Also wonder if you’ve ever looked into the ‘swim move’ for the left arm? Anyways i’m subscribing, keep up the great videos!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks dude!

[@Diction10]

Just wanted to say great video man. Appreciate your analysis and video clips. This is my first video I’ve found of yours and it’s great. I’ve been playing for many years and unfortunately my form is lacking. I’m Finding it exceedingly hard to break out of the muscle memory of my poor form. Any tips other than just repetition?

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks for the feedback. I've been in that place too where it's hard to break the muscle memory. I think repetition is important, but it has to be disciplined repetition. Once your mind gets bored or loses focus, you're not really going to make any gains. There's a grind phase I went through (and still go through), where I would throw dozens of shots in the field, and film many of them to see exactly what I should improve. I tried to make each shot better than the next. Then I tried to replicate the things I was doing well over and over. I think the key is to do routinely do field work - It's what all the top pros do as well, we're jus used to seeing them on the course. Best of luck and let me know if this answered your question :)

[@mgoh1984]

I know that feeling. Now and then I will rip a great shot online, but it's like a happy accident lol

[@greatlakesoutdoorwonders9015]

Good stuff dude! Thank you for the charts!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks, man! I’ve got some other videos in the works with a cleaner looking chart with better data. It’s gonna be cool!

[@greatlakesoutdoorwonders9015]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 keep it coming. I've been golfing for 12 years now. I still love studying form and the physics behind it. From airbounces to anhyzers, disc golf is just fun 😊💪🥏

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

@@greatlakesoutdoorwonders9015 100%. That’s part of what drives me in this!

[@JohnXavierSieg]

never needed a video more

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks, glad you liked it! I'm trying to give everyone hope haha.

[@looksee8192]

just from an audio aspect you need to turn down the volume on that first sound effect at 2 seconds in. holy crap lol i had to look down and see that my volume wasnt cranked up high. cant wait for the rest of the video

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Haha noted. Thanks for the feedback. Sorry about your ears.

[@looksee8192]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 no worries keep it up!

[@lionking2443]

Bro, keep going! I'd love to hear your point of view on the finer details from tje ground up. Im the same height but can't throw further than 320ft. You should do videos on foot work, weight shift, balance, hip engagement, disc lag, head placement, left hand, rigjt shoulder, right arm and wrist integrity. Just to name a fee ideas for videos lol

[@lionking2443]

Oh also love the data side of the disc golf throw. You are really onto something there. No one else is doing that. Just an observation

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks, man. Those are great ideas, I'll keep them in mind. Glad you liked the video! As soon as my school term finishes I'm going to post more haha.

[@lionking2443]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 Thats what I'm talking about!

[@zoobugs5056]

Very E Mac looking form. 👌

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Never heard that comparison before but I’ll take it!

[@rosscollier5696]

Greta video with lots of good theory!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, glad you liked it!

[@alistairbarfoot7044]

no cap brodie that is so poggers

[@jre9571]

Brilliant!

[@Dagger7701]

😁

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks, my guy! I had a lot of fun making it.

[@ChristopherLoverich]

Great video. One thought, your left arm. I think of it as a double double move and you only do first part - tucking into the body. The second part is (my term) contrary motion. Most pros extend the left arm so it moves backwards at the hit. But go check out philo. He keeps his arm bent like yours but you can clearly see him briefly move it back at the hit. I don’t know why but ALL pros do some form of this. I think it either fully stabilizes the still ness of the body or assists the hips. For me (not a far thrower) it happens naturally when I engage my core / hips. I think some pros like Drew do it too but it’s kind of disguised by the way he punches down (same for eagle and Simon) and then misinterpreted. I bet if you do everything the same but then after you get your left arm in, just slowly but firmly extend down at the elbow you could immediately tell if it is helpful. Keep it up

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Good observation, I haven't though too much about the left arm before. I think the bend in my arm is left over from my ultimate form from a few years ago. I'm going to try that the next time I do field work / net work. Thanks for the suggestion ;) - Joe

[@thomasberglund]

Great video! Any thoughts about keeping the 90 degree angle of the shoulder and elbow? Does it happen naturally, or do you actively try to get your elbow out and forward? When trying to keep my arm loose, I end up collapsing the 90 degree frame, simply pulling my noodle arm with my shoulder and not getting the elbow out. This results in losing the crack of the whip. Any advice?

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks! If it helps you, you could try keeping that elbow joint a bit more controlled (and try to get the elbow out in front). But the majority of that acceleration is still going to come from the whip motion. It sounds like you might be leading with your shoulder instead of your elbow/arm, so I would definitely try getting your elbow out in front.

[@aFeinPhoto]

dealing with the same (reachback too early and not pivoting on heel) and been searching for tips to try and correct. really focusing on delaying reachback as long as possible + pushing upwards off front foot think might be the ticket.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Awesome, glad some of the tips in the video clicked with you :)

[@Cervateus]

I'm a beginner, and have only been playing for about one season. With that said though, something I think helped me quite a bit was to stop thinking about the reach back as "reaching back", and instead thinking about it as "leaving the disc behind", or simply keeping the disc above the back foot until the turn of the body pulls the disc forward and away from the foot. I think it might have been Paul Ulibarri that was talking about this in some video. I'll try to find it. Edit: I'm quite sure this is the video. It's with Brian Earhart and Paul Ulibarri: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqXJZn2vf5uWnJo It's a fairly long video, but I think this is one of the first things they're talking about. :)

[@4dwyn]

Nice video. A tip to help you with that back foot is to look at your target until you start to leave that disc back. This keeps your body lined up toward the direction you want to throw. Also, take a smaller X step. Bigger X steps turn the foot backwards which becomes awkward when you push your weight forward. Most people end up pushing off their back heel. By taking a smaller X step, your back foot isnt turned as much, so you can explode off the balls of your feet

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Great points, I’m gonna try that this week.

[@mstoochn]

When I watch you or any other good DG'er throw you all rotate like 180 degrees as you release the disc, but when I throw (ive video'd myself) I don't seem to have that rotation, just my arm follows through I'm not sure why that is but I feel like its costing me a lot of distance as my power isn't being utilized. Did what I say make sense? any tips.. Im 5'10 with long arms and I can throw a 10 speed about 300' on a good day.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

My guess would be that you could use your lower body more, but I can’t really tell unless I see the throw. You could link a video of your throw on here so I can give some personalized tips 👍

[@wiltzp1212]

Pretty decent tutorial :) You should think about adding some real numbers and comparisons to your tips and tricks though. Radar gun up and its quite easy to show what actually does what. At the end of the day, its the initial disc speed that is the point of all those form and timing perfections

[@tommanuel2137]

Thanks for the vid! What does keep your shoulder closed mean?

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

It means try to keep your shoulders perpendicular to the target, rather than rotating them forward too early.

[@emilnilsson7492]

Really good tips dude, thanks! I have a problem with me releasing the disc too late, which makes me slam my elbow backwards, hyperextending it. Not good. I'm really trying to time the release better, but idk how to do it. Any tips?

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks for the feedback! Yikes, that doesn't sound good about the elbow. I don't think about timing the release in disc golf. With proper form, if you're keeping your shoulders closed to the target during the throw, the disc will rip out of your hand with so much force that you can't hold onto it. If you look at my hand in the slow mo, it's still closed when the disc comes out. I'm trying to hold onto the disc as long as possible, but it gets pulled out due to the torque. Long story short, I would bet that the problem originates from your form, and that you shouldn't be thinking about timing the release properly, it should come naturally. You can send a video of your throw to [e-mail] and I can try to get to it to take a look ;)

[@emilnilsson7492]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 Thanks a lot for the response! I'll take your advice into consideration. And yes, my form is definately the problem. I'll email you a video of my form. Thanks a lot bro!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

@@emilnilsson7492 cool, no problem.

[@VikIsLost]

I would be very grateful if you would explain your process on how you made the graph around 1:30. I am trying to write a script that does this automatically and I would love to hear your process.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Ya, for sure! I wrote out an explanation here: docs.google.com/document/d/10U98qyITlByHh3z6JHYuBnxq9P_vlDnC_fWgbsxUoHY/edit?usp=sharing

[@VikIsLost]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 Sweet! Thanks. I have to request permission, so I'll go ahead and send a request.

[@VikIsLost]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 I found this explanation super helpful, and I pulled some great ideas from it! Thanks for taking the time to write that up.

[@ScottSmith-vc5vf]

I never thought to take part of my throw and practice it inside. I was always worried I would mess up my already flawed throw and timing. But if I could increase my throw by 50 feet consistently, it would drop my scores dramatically I think. I’ve been stuck at 270 - 300 feet forever. It’s time to work on the Whip!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Ya bro, go for it. You have to get worse to get better, that’s what I went through too. One day though, after field work, things will just click, and you will continue to have those moments if you keep practicing. Good luck!

[@dgspindoctor]

I like this video, quite alot!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks! I’ve really enjoyed a few of yours.

[@Andyofsuh]

Would you say you’re trying to release at your left pec? Or right or center?

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

I don’t really think of it that way, I couldn’t really say. Everyone has slightly different proportions, so it’s not going to be the exact same. I focus on the disc naturally ripping out of my grip, instead of focusing on a release point. Hope this helps.

[@michaelbarber8388]

What were you doing in the gymnasium? Looked like a practice sesh with friends? Great video. 💯

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, it was a lot of fun to make. Since it's freezing outside right now, we're renting out a gym once a week and practicing our form by throwing into the net and practicing putting with two baskets! It's super fun.

[@michaelbarber8388]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 what kind of gym are you using? That's a really good idea actually. I would like to start doing the same.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

@@michaelbarber8388 it’s the gym in my buddy Jonathan’s church. It’s probably 60x100 feet or so, more than enough to putt and throw in!

[@jeffabercrombie167]

Excellent, and don’t forget to practice slow, before you go hard and fast… easy to get into bad habits

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you! Yes, very true!

[@mindlander]

Smarter every day? Hell yeah. My dude knows what's up!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Ya bro that’s what I’m talking about 😎😎

[@lancerobinson8738]

When I watch this again, it reminds me of how many things I get to change...

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Lol, I still have lots of things to change and improve too.

[@geewillies19]

nice video!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks my dude!

[@jcrohe]

We have very similar forms, though you look to be more flexible in your back and shoulders... I notice you shoot your left shoulder through the throw. I do the same and I feel I'm not actually getting my core involved. Curious on your thoughts on that.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Interesting. Sometimes, it's hard to get your core involved if your lower body and hips aren't involved. I don't think the power itself comes from the core, I think that the core transfers power from the hips to the arm. So my guess is that the problem is starting from your lower body. You can send a video to [e-mail] and reply to this comment letting me know that you sent it. That way, I can take a look at it instead of just guessing :)

[@jaymcmorris1629]

First of all, your form is super solid. I used to be pretty short, and I still kind of am (5'10"), but I can throw 550 somewhat consistently, and can reach up to 600 if I hit the disc angles very well. 1. Your arm doesn't fully straighten in the reachback, you want your arm to pretty much "lock out" and the then bend at the elbow as it snaps forward, this gives a bit more of that slingshot/rubber band whip. 2. turn your shoulders back a bit more, this extends your reachback, and gives you more time to accelerate the disc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5ymgIGeib2Fjs0 This one wasnt awesome form, but your see the shoulders turn way back, this one was about 580

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks for the pointers. Sorry for not seeing this sooner, there's a lot to keep up with. I will take a look!

[@Jason-Moon]

Thanks for the help. I have an odd problem. I keep putting my plant foot on my toes instead of my heel. Feel like I'm leaning forward too much right away and my foot doesn't pivot well off the toe so my knee is getting injured by twisting because my leg doesn't turn. I keep trying to plant my final step on my heel but it keeps being my toes!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Hmm, that’s more of a rare issue that I haven’t heart as much, but I have heard of it. In my opinion, you should be pivoting on the ball of your foot, or your heel - not the toes. If you’re throwing an anhyzer or flat shot, the weight will probably be more over your heel. If you’re throwing a hyzer, you should be pivoting on the ball of your foot. I don’t usually teach to focus on where you’re pivoting, but if that’s your issue, that’s my advice. Your toes may touch down first when you plant, but the pivoting should be around the ball or heel of your foot. I would also recommend stretching and strengthening that area, because it shouldn’t be causing too many problems if done right :)

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Let me know if this answers your question

[@Jason-Moon]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 It helps a lot to get an experienced opinion. What you said about the anhyzer-hyzer difference makes me think I'm leaning over the disc too much. Which may be why I suck at anhyzers. Also I think part of it is an unconscious fear of slipping/sliding which is why I'm digging my toes in hard and having a hard time spinning on my pivot with the follow through. Thanks for responding!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

No problemo!

[@OkieTradez]

seems like the disc is still a bit behind you vs OUT to the side but its like youve mastered rounding and it has added a weird whip function to your throw but you should be OUT with disc pulled into chest then OUT again

[@anthonygames4451]

When x stepping, are you actively pushing forward with your right foot as the back foot crossed behind, or do you just step with right foot and let the left come behind?

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

No, I'm not using much force during the x-step/walk-up my legs are slightly bent, but that's mostly to stay balanced and keep my aim. I only start really exploding off my legs once my plant (right) foot hits the ground. Everything you do before the plant, including the x-step, is just meant to set your body up for the explosive pull-through/whip motion. This makes me want to make a video about the x-step haha. Long story short, don't push with your feet during the x-step, the x-step is just to set your body up to explode the disc forward. You should only explode upward with your legs once you've planted with your right foot. Let me know if this helps. -Joe

[@anthonygames4451]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 yes thanks!!! And yes, make a X-step video

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

@@anthonygames4451 I'll add it to the top-secret list lol. I have some other fun ones planned too, I just need more time but school is busy right now aah :)

[@anthonygames4451]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 sweet!! I feel ya

[@illhavethesoup]

More driving form commentary and more slow motion from various angles. Keep up the great work!!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you so much, I've got a putting challenge video that I've been working on.

[@dustmouret]

What do you mean by keeping your shoulders closed? Aren't they suppose to rotate away and then towards the target?

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Yes, they turn back during the reach back, but when pulling through, make sure they don't rotate too much forward or too early. I found that helped me with distance and accuracy.

[@dustmouret]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 Hmm alright Ill try that. Thanks!

[@mchankerhoff853]

I kinda keep my left leg up like you do after your release.

[@samhowl1152]

How do you brace? I know that's the biggest part I'm missing

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

The "brace" is never something I consciously thought about. I think it's more a question of which way your weight is leaning. If you're leaning backward or forward too much during the throw, this will definitely cause you to lose power. I think the ideal setup for max power is to focus on transferring the weight from back to front, but not leaning forward or backward too much in the process (trying to stay as upright as possible).

[@samhowl1152]

@@joevdiscgolf3246 it's funny because that's where most of your power is coming from. You have a tremendous brace.

[@Puusankimmo]

Im wondering how much it affects if my flexibility is like 1/5

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Probably a lot to be honest. I felt my distance improve when my flexibility improved, especially in the hips and legs.

[@neil.m.m]

Refreshingly good video. What are your thoughts on the deep power pocket? Also, are you going to try to make your X step more compact to help prevent opening the back leg too much? I noticed a lot of pros have a surprisingly small X step. Also, I've seen a decent amount of pros do a sort of hop-into a compact X step which I thought was interesting. By hop I mean their right foot comes off the ground before the left X step touches the ground like a little momentum hop into the X step that carries into the brace stride. You can see McBeth doing it here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJuaZmqsZduDmdU idk if he still does or always does but it looks super smooth and controlled and the shortness of the step keeps the back leg from opening.

[@gromblek]

I also think you should work with the position of you left arm.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Interesting, what would you suggest? I know it's a little unconventional, but I think it's pretty much out of the way of the throw and it's tucked very close to my body. Let me know what you think!

[@gromblek]

I'm a big fan of Drew Gibson and how he keeping his left arm close to his body during the rotation.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

@@gromblek Agreed. I used to try to model my form after his. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@tombrockhoff3081]

Think about an ice skater. When they want to spin faster they make there body compact. So you start with both hands extended behind you(the reach back) then you hug yourself with your left arm and the right arm. Both at different angles. The left arm towards your crotch and the right arm across your chest. Then you extend your elbow with the right arm and boom.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Yeah, that's one way to think about it. And yes, the closer you bring the disc to your body, the more power you're usually going to get (as long as you don't hit your chest on the way lol).

[@theurbanrifleman8606]

No left leg load in rotation into the trailing hip joint.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Ya good point, that’s the main thing I’m working on right now. My hips aren’t very flexible so just back foot wants to point backward.

[@OkieTradez]

your BRACING is high level ... you dont fall forward at all if anything you move backwards which allows max power from your legs.. 7:19

[@RojerLockless]

What if you're tall?

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Then you get even MORE distance 😂

[@user-ws9di5kp9h]

Bro I’m 5’2” , did a double take on this title lol.

[@bisk1407]

i so bad want tho too hrow 100m this season, small goal foor moost but huge for me

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

That's awesome! That's definitely possible. Slingshot Disc golf is maybe the best channel out there for proper explosive form.

[@discgolflife]

You have great form. Your left toe should be facing 90 deg off your hips during your pull back. It's facing behind you. This prohibits your hips from fully engaging. 50% of every drive you throw comes from your feet and hips!!! Your foot work needs work. KZbin Simon and eagles backhand tutorial.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thank you, man. I couldn't agree more. That was the main thing I talked about in the video that I would like to improve. I think it's also a flexibility thing that I have to work on, because my foot naturally wants to go in that position. Great observation though, I agree.

[@alistairbarfoot7044]

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[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Prove it

[@anthonyho8055]

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[@joevdiscgolf3246]

@@anthonyho8055 ok chill you both are

[@alistairbarfoot7044]

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[@remu-mikael]

or just go to gym :)

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Lol, you're right there too, it's not going to hurt!

[@JohnFnLopez]

Good video. Thank you. I can't resist... you grab your ass cheek almost every throw. It's funny.

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

You're not the first one to realize that and won't be the last :)

[@balance_dg]

Absolutely loved your insights. You have great knowledge of how your body works! Very impressive what you're putting into words. Will be following your progress!

[@joevdiscgolf3246]

Thanks so much, man!