Split grip so good it can only be used for shots 150ft and less
@bbarrzz Жыл бұрын
Love this
@jkdisc.golf11 Жыл бұрын
At least 5
@travisrenfrow2953 Жыл бұрын
How far can you throw max distance? You should do a video like this Brodie.
@harleybk3 Жыл бұрын
345 feet with a mid…”I just can’t throw mids far”. Three years in, I’m extremely happy with 300 with a distance driver.
@robertjones1730 Жыл бұрын
People get chuckles from me writing on my discs, but there's a lot of variables to remember. For a given disc I have average standstill distance, one step distance, x-step distance, and full runup distance. For my backhand I just have standstill and "runup" distances. For all those shots they are slight forceovers. For example, with a pathfinder 5, 5,-1, 1 I have 150, 200, 275, 320 This way when I rangefind I choose a disc and a runup and I should get the distance right. I prefer a regular x-step for the best timing and distance with average power but you may not have that in the woods or wherever your lay is. I love what you're doing, I hope your channel grows like crazy, starting with my Sub today!
@NotSoFast71 Жыл бұрын
I live in south Louisiana. ALL disc golf shots are on flat ground down here. My longest measured drive was 317 feet with a Latitude 64 Fury. 52 years old and only been playing one year. Yesterday I did get pin high on a 640 foot hole in two with the Fury off the tee and a Daedalus second shot. I was surprised how far the second shot went especially since it never got above head high.
@rongoforth5395 Жыл бұрын
I love Louisiana
@ComeatMEOW Жыл бұрын
Awesome man. Love it. Keep it up.
@Wolf-un3lb Жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of the Fury!
@prattacaster Жыл бұрын
This is a really nice exercise I think most of us should do. I know that I'd be surprised maybe that my distance drivers don't go that much farther than my fairways.
@BigTpetty Жыл бұрын
This is what I've been wanting to see from you, I just never really put it into words. Your distance! Thanks for the vid man! Keep it up!
@itsbrandonbush Жыл бұрын
Heading to the field today to do this exercise. Sweet video.
@LzyBn1987 Жыл бұрын
I think next you have to do accuracy with your stock shots in an open field from the distances on this sheet.
@JTygerAU Жыл бұрын
Awesome way to do this. I’ve done a lot of field work with rangefinder and UDisc distances but the way you organize the data here gives a touch point for you. Is it comparable between people? No because discs, air density, etc. are different. But this is a semi-repeatable way for an individual to range out what they can really do on a course and how that changes over time. I can imagine this significantly increase confidence in disc and shot selection on the course which will reduce mental load in the round. Additionally, my guess is next time you play, you’ll be more likely to be satisfied with a “stock” shot instead of letting ego get into shot and power selection. Powerful video here! Gave me the feeling of “I have to get out there and do this for myself”.
@StetsonOwen Жыл бұрын
Love the breakdown in The Lab - keep these kinds of videos coming! Love your content.
@mshane11 Жыл бұрын
I look forward to your uploads each week! love the video concepts and execution
@aklevin Жыл бұрын
"Keep in mind, when I say 'stock flat', it's probably going to come out with a slight bit of anhyzer, because that's how I throw flat shots, apparently." Hahahah you and me both, Trevor. You and me both.
@triplespace007 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video. Helped me realize that the slower discs don't really go too much farther, but when my faster discs aren't gapping the slow ones...got some work to do.
@bigdonkerbren5325 Жыл бұрын
I have two personal best throws of 500 but I wouldn't say that is my max distance at all, more so my "potential max distance when I do everything right", which is rare. I can hit my max of 425 with relative ease with both Fairways and Drivers but even then I live in a community where max distance doesn't make you competitive unless you have the finesse and mental capabilities to compete. I think it's good to be able to know your current strengths distance wise, but there is so much more to the game than having a big arm such as putting, shot creativity, finesse, etc. You have to practice in every area of your game to be good, let alone great. Focusing only on distance is what set me back and now that I practice on the other areas of the game on the regular, I have gotten so much better. Just my opinion/experience during my first 2 years playing.
@johnbozzelli3756 Жыл бұрын
Love Trevor’s lab he really broke the budget for these videos in there haha. On a serious note these videos are pure gold enjoy this content a lot!
@garyhaynes4883 Жыл бұрын
Started late, but 9 speeds are at around 350 feet. I think for 42 years young, that isn't bad
@jeffwyssenbach4206 Жыл бұрын
Same here. 9 speeds go 350, 11 speeds go 375 and that’s about it for me.
@TheSlambert123 Жыл бұрын
Starter January of this year… (somehow didn’t even know about this spot before 😅) 41 yrs young. I’m about the same. I can push 400 if I rip it good
@pbgamble Жыл бұрын
350' with placement is all you need honestly. That's a guaranteed birdie on a 700' hole 😎👍
@jonathanmodisette6997 Жыл бұрын
I'm 42 and i can get over 400 but it's not worth the torn groin or oblique I may get throwing my hardest now 😅. 350-375 is where I feel good throwing a 9 speed too and there's nothing wrong with that. I've torn both the groin and oblique both at 40 so nowadays I don't test the body limits and the recovery is rough over 40
@anderschristianhaldpederse8472 Жыл бұрын
Im 41, started last year- only broke 100m (333feet) once... on a field... so thats VERY impressive IMO, #challengeaccepted :-P
@nickowns55 Жыл бұрын
Best video on this channel. Nice work.
@Big_C_Here Жыл бұрын
I look forward to your Monday uploads, every week now. I just picked up a net to throw into over the winter to dial in form. I can’t x-step, I don’t have the timing down. To see you throw in the field makes me want to experiment with my bag and see what I can do.
@YaboiKinny Жыл бұрын
If you can’t x step then slow down a lot. You don’t need to be having a quick and fancy x step run up. Do the x step while walking and throw the shot in a walk up
@earlthomas6295 Жыл бұрын
I went to a disc golf shop that had one of those sensors on the disc that measures your speed, spin, wobble, etc. To me that is more accurate about throwing abilities than distance.
@bradyanderson7686 Жыл бұрын
I don’t. if you can’t make a disc actually fly as far as the numbers seen on a tech disc it doesn’t matter. Same thing as exit velo in baseball, highest velo hits are usually low line-drives or ground balls.
@nesking7029 Жыл бұрын
Hey I think a cool video could be to do a shot shaping video for beginners? Showing Hyzer, ani, hyzer flip to fade, rollers, hyzer flip to turn, grenade, thumber, tomahawk, etc ... What disc to use and showing the lines. Keep up the great work!
@Discsforbaskets Жыл бұрын
Great video Trev. Keep em coming!
@jarrettbruss8863 Жыл бұрын
Love the new channel and the content ! I have a tech question, are you filming with the camera you guys use at foundation or filming on a phone or something else ?? Appreciate it !
@briancoyne881511 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! Brand new to disc golf (just bought a starter set, but 50 years with a Frisbee). I wondered about ranges, and you explained it really well. Looks like your max is about 30% longer than stock, and FH is about 10% shorter than BH. New sub. Ya might wanna upgrade the lab gear…swap out the electrical tape for duct tape.
@IceBergTV Жыл бұрын
can relate to the closing statement. being in charlotte weve gotta keep most shots low 90% of the time, so you really have to focus on throwing golf shots so hitting 400 feet is pretty impressive at courses like nevin and hornets nest. This leaves us in a position where most players arent throwing full power or high enough to stretch out max distance lines
@MullinatorDiscGolf Жыл бұрын
Love this! I highly doubt most online personalities are this honest about their distance. Def wanna try this myself now
@ThisIsVao Жыл бұрын
Man, great content. This really helps me out in understanding max distance. You always hear how far a person can throw but then you always wonder by what kind of shot: anhyzer, hyzer flipping, shanking it, etc. How far do most pros throw flat?
@joonas8885 Жыл бұрын
Very good stuff Trevor! It's been nice to see your channel grow so much in just a few weeks. Converting feet to meters for us watching outside of US would be very helpful in the future. Math is very hard to do while watching.
@ToddsDiscGolf Жыл бұрын
320’ cheating with the Mamba. A few other discs I’ve gotten to break 300’ also but 320’ is the max. I’m almost positive i will throw 350-400 next time I hit the practice field because I was laying in bed thinking about form and going over the movements in my mind when I decided to get up and practice my swing to test this new movement. Well it worked so well I could feel the additional power and whip, then recorded myself so I wouldn’t forget what I figured out, while trying not to wake up my wife who was fast asleep in bed a few feet away. But the next day my shoulder started feeling sore. Today it’s even more sore. I really shouldn’t have practiced my swing without a towel or something but I did and now my arm is going to fall off because this change in my form made a massive increase in power. Edit: nope, didn’t work. Still need to build the neuropathways which will allow my body to put all the different individual parts into a single, fluid throw
@RayLopezBTownSting9 ай бұрын
I know that there's some back and forth on whether hyzer flips or the big arching anhyzer line is optimal for max distance. I found for me, throwing something a little less stable (broken in DD Raider) that I can flip just past flat while also focusing on getting more RPM on my throw to generate more inertia so it holds that angle longer is what really got me to break 450 consistently. Usually for that anhyzer line the pros are throwing overstable discs, and I think us non-pros typically lack the technique and power required to get an overstable disc to hold that big anyhyzer line high up that they throw.
@lockemeriwether3045 Жыл бұрын
Love to see it! We've got pretty similar distances on mids and drivers but 300+ with a putter is absolutely cooked for me. You're 100% right when you say you throw putters far.
@johnshepherd6925 Жыл бұрын
This was a fun vid! Thanks!
@brandonstevens18324 ай бұрын
Amazing shots. Old video, I know, but was this a 2-line or 3-line AJ Destroyer?
@Donutshack Жыл бұрын
Thx for the video trev. I'm a short stubby 5'4" guy, I spent some time pretty dedicated to form. I have done a good amount of field work and my max distance is 425 and I can pretty consistently hit around the 400 mark. I still have a lot of work to do, but I feel good about my distance, all things considered.
@nordicdiscgolferatrumble9430 Жыл бұрын
Great episode. I learned a few things
@brekkoh Жыл бұрын
Its so crazy that it took this long for digital analysis to come to our sport, so we dont have to wonder anymore, doing gameproofer really opened my eyes to what my limitations are
@TimTimsTim Жыл бұрын
Really cool vid Trev, appreciate the data!
@LifeOfMeRightNow Жыл бұрын
Great Shots!!
@tempeste7727 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely something worth doing for people. Pro Golfers (ball not disc) do a lot of range testing on each club so when they get out on the course they know exactly what range each club gives them with different levels of effort. Highly recommend people do that if they want to take disc golf seriously. Experiment a lot with every disc you have. Vary the angles, vary the effort and do each variation multiple times to get a good feel of what the real numbers are and how it will fly so you always have the best disc in whatever situation you are in.
@yggyking10 Жыл бұрын
Easier for ball golfers because they don't have to walk 300 feet to pick up their clubs for the next round of testing. 😆
@tempeste7727 Жыл бұрын
@@yggyking10 Haha. Fair. Just get a friend and pretend you're throwing frisbees at eachother then.
@seanbinder8316 Жыл бұрын
Great video Trevor you definitely got into those Destroyers. I can only utilize 9 and maybe some 10 speed overstable drivers.
@gamingnoob4417 Жыл бұрын
I get around 220-240 on my backhand and 250-300 on forehand (bad nose angle/release angle consistency). Nothing like what you throw, but is interesting to track over time. I notice that I’m not throwing further on the top end, but my low end distance seems to be moving up slowly
@WestCoastFloridaFishing Жыл бұрын
Very cool video Trevor! I am going to half to pickup a rangefinder and give this a go! 4 months in on this journey so I am sure I will not get close to your numbers but it will be cool to watch the progression!
@beastmodegym4170 Жыл бұрын
When saying flat, hyz, or anni, what types of stability are you using on those shots? Are they all stable/over stable? Are you using understanle discs for the hyzer flips? I’d like more info on what EXACTLY you are throwing to determine stock distances.
@jockofthebush Жыл бұрын
Awesome content. This is the kind of stuff the people of the internet want to see, experimentation with some quantitative data.
@Greldek Жыл бұрын
How far do you throw, thumber and turbo putt? Also it would be interesting to see if if a 9 or 10 speed fairway would fit in your bag instead of the very low speed fairways. Something like an Escape. W/ something like that you could probably get very controlled 350ish and max distance 400+ on your fairways.
@ComeatMEOW Жыл бұрын
I did do this test however just with my putters to see which 5 were the best. My stock throw with the putters is 55m 180ft furthest is 72m 236ft. Will be chipping away over the next few months...then looking forward to feb to move out to be close to my bro bro so we can play together regularly
@CalebLiegey Жыл бұрын
love the content, Big TREV! You crushed a lil bit.
@ericlynch9443 Жыл бұрын
This is great content!!!
@PWheat23 Жыл бұрын
Im not sure how my distances space out from mold to mold but I have measured my max distances using an Atlus Range Finder. My backhand, in 6 years of playing, is only fast enough to throw up to an 11 speed and can reach about 325. My forehand, which I just learned how to throw, max distance was 400 with a 22 Ezra Aderhold Nuke. Videoing myself, my forehand comes out more nose down and my backhand comes out slightly nose up. My timing is terrible with my backhand and I have a bad rounding issue.
@Agent_OB Жыл бұрын
6:45 why not just correct for flip up and throw on a bit more hyzer here ?
@Agent_OB Жыл бұрын
okay you finally did it at 7:29
@christopherbrown222 Жыл бұрын
I’m 35 yrs old. Started playing May 2022 . Before a couple weeks ago I could barely hit 300 with any disc. My Envy, Hex, and Crave all went 250’. I had a friend help with run up timing and form and immediately increased my distance 50-75’ for all of my ranges. Between playing rounds and field work these are my current averages: Throwing Putter: 250-270’ Envy/Proxy Main Midrange: 290-320’ Hex Fairway Drive: 300-330’ Crave/Valkyrie Distance Driver: 320-350’ Grace/Wave My max distance is 379’ with a flippy Rhythm and a PERFECTLY timed and powered throw with a Rive that carried to 374’. Before last month I couldn’t hit 250’ with a Rive on backhand. Two of the guys I play with can bomb mids 350-400 ft. So it’s hard to compare myself to others when playing rounds. Anyone mid 30s and younger player that can compare to my distances?
@dankauffman3456 Жыл бұрын
Your distance seems perfectly fine for your experience. Accuracy >>>> Distance anyway unless you're playing a pro-level long open course.
@rageoid Жыл бұрын
Dig these comparative throws. The Toasty Mallow burned it up on the flex - skol ! Hopefully the rotator cuff is intact.
@timlamacchia70703 ай бұрын
What rangefinder are you using
@limaturskiainen Жыл бұрын
My longest throw on flat ground was 565ft with an cloudbreaker 3
@dalecantrell6873 Жыл бұрын
Trevor, I think you would throw cleaner/further if you kept the disc/pull through a little lower and focused on reaching out and not back. Before watching this video I was watching Simon Lizotte's form video on Power Disc Golf Academy and he speaks to very specifically that problem. I'm saying this specifically about the putter throws when writing this after watching a throw back at .25 speed.
@joeyt7068 Жыл бұрын
When are the new colors for the pioneer coming out
@sebastianfalconer Жыл бұрын
Neat! I have to say, I've seen you pull out a putter for a 300ft shot flat shot on a video on the foundation channel and made it look so easy I was a little jealous. 😅 So I reckon your shots might go further on the course 🤔.
@bradwurst8141 Жыл бұрын
Toasted Marshmallow is five syllables. Bro S'MORE is right there
@bashildy Жыл бұрын
I'm 41, live in Colorado at Elevation, throw 275-325 with a flippy DX Wraith. Been playing two years. Would like to get to 350 next summer.
@BigBig5 Жыл бұрын
I have thrown a disc backhand 400 feet only 2 times with most of my drives around 200 - 300 feet. I am small but trying to work on my coiling.
@dacks14 Жыл бұрын
That was a great exercise in understanding what your discs can do. I do think the lab needs some beakers and bunsen burners.
@bobbykidd5598 Жыл бұрын
"If you're a casual fan you can click off now." Hilarious stuff. I want to do this with my boys!
@scmit109 Жыл бұрын
Whats the overhand distance?????
@dankauffman3456 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I think Barela's stock driver would still be over 500 because he's a freak, but I agree with your hypothesis anyway (that the stock to power gap will get even greater for big-arm pros) since I feel like with the right conditions (no wind/slight tailwind) Barela might be able to throw 800+ max. You have a good arm IMO. I'm 43 and have an average to slightly below average arm (IMO), I sit about 300 on a power fairway and 350-375 on a power distance driver.
@Cristopher1976 Жыл бұрын
We've been windy the last few days around my area. So Saturday I was getting acquainted with what my discs do in the wind again. While checking my drivers in a tail wind I got a discmania 169gr dd to go 446 which is a pb for me. I threw it on a hyzer flip at about 80%. I wasn't expecting that result at all. 430 is what I would say is my true max distance as I've done that a few times.
@caydenmareno Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know when the atlas pioneer will be back in stock??
@DrFlemingR Жыл бұрын
Man imagine if this guy did variety disc golf videos with an assortment of other people from his place on employment
@davidknott5240 Жыл бұрын
Do you think the results would be more consistent with throwing multiple discs with the same name over and over or splitting it up among the different styles and names like you did?
@btown1212 Жыл бұрын
What up Big Trev, great video! I was wondering, when you are going for max distance, do you feel like you are getting more distance with flippy, stable, or over stable distance drivers? I usually am using flippy drivers to try to get hyzer flip max distance but in this vid it looks like you are using more stable discs and putting them on high anhyzers. Thanks!
@lanceknightmare Жыл бұрын
I do not have much distance at all. I watched a few videos, but did not understand what I was watching. I did find a video on how to putt recently that improved my putting game.
@ryanbridges7749 Жыл бұрын
throwing them putters like they wont flip up dont have that much of a noodle arm if you pull up 7:27 you can see it start the flip up i was doing the same thing for awhile
@jamesbenton4123 Жыл бұрын
Lol I do the same thing 300-325 putter-fairway. People think I can throw 450+ but nope 350 for my fastest drivers. I only carry 1 12 spd now. Bag full of fire birds and mids.
@StupendousMan796 Жыл бұрын
Trevor I think we're actually just twins. I tested all my max ranges earlier in the summer when it was warmer here (and I don't think my distance has increased since then so they'll still be pretty accurate) and our numbers are pretty much identical across the board lol. Every speed class was within 5 feet, save for two miracle outlier distance shots that I don't even count because they were absolute flukes that I don't even know how to replicate/what I did different.
@gingeravenger4673 Жыл бұрын
I have not done this but am very interested to see where I’m at. Furthest throw I’ve had is 470’ downhill and 445’ flat. But be curious to see my stock shots. Thanks for the content good sir 🫡
@BillFromAZ Жыл бұрын
for distance, it would have been nice to see you throw the same disc anny, flat, and hyzer. For examples, the putters - a Slammer is 3 speed 2 glide and the Judge is 2 speed 4 glide. So there's a difference in how they will fly....so they really aren't comparable. Still nice to see the distances. I'm 64, playing since 2019, 650ish rated (I'm not consistent enough) and get 200 feet (rangefinder distance) with my MVP Watt (2 speed 5 glide), 250 with my Axiom Hex (5 speed 5 glide), I get my 7 speeds around 265 and then the higher speeds don't get a lot more distance. The furthest I've gotten is 302 feet with a 139 gram Innova Star Tern (no wind). I've been speed checked having a max throw of 45 MPH, so anything over a 7 speed for me has to be lightweight or I'm not getting it to do what the brand designed it for.
@kaipelchen1039 Жыл бұрын
Great ad read
@tylerbest3390 Жыл бұрын
Take a shot for every time Trevor says stock lol. 😂😭 but more seriously I love what you’re doing on your own, the podcasts and foundation videos. Keep it up 💯💜
@ROBOTDiscGolf Жыл бұрын
What’s the weight on that toasty marshmallow destroyer?
@sean5354 Жыл бұрын
I am almost exclusively forehand thrower and I find that I don't really have a "stock" throw, or maybe my stock throw is just my max throw. I think that's probably because of the extra control you get with FH that allows you to crank it out there without fear of any drawbacks like early release. I'm only hitting about 340 in a flat park on a perfect throw though so maybe someone with more arm strength has a different experience.
@KoletheCotter Жыл бұрын
Daanngg big Trev you're huge! I think my max distance backhand with super tailwind on a field was 465 with a Z Thrasher LOL. I'm usually around that low 400s range for no wind I believe.
@justinh.95928 ай бұрын
How far can you kick a mid?
@RockCh4lk Жыл бұрын
My stock shots are right in line with yours, however my max distance shots are not much further than my stock shots. This tells me that I don't know how to power up while keeping the same form.
@johnhoge8753 Жыл бұрын
Curious what your max distance for forehand is. I feel backwards compared to most. My max distance is always come from forehand.
@MrRobix13 Жыл бұрын
How much do you bench tho ?
@rickyshearer6560 Жыл бұрын
Great content.👍
@aspottedfriend4289 Жыл бұрын
Seems like we are at a very similar point. Although I focus on Max distance probably way more than Trevor. Max is 480 typically. Next year when it warms up I’m hoping for the 500. Also distance drivers go much much farther than the normal increments between putter midrange fairway
@mortenhalkjrjacobsen3621 Жыл бұрын
I have to go and do that, I did it once and it was max effort and not very helpful. This could be something I really could use. Thanks Trevor... Question when you're on the field do you measure the distance to where you want to throw and then know that at that disctance I will use this or that disc on this or that shot?
@CarlTempleton77 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Trev! You get some good distance. Question for you: people always say that with a tail wind you get more distance. For me to get more distance with a tail wind I have to go super light and super flippy, or use a putter. With my normal full weight distance drivers if I have a little left to right wind, even a wind blowing at about 10 o’clock, helps keep the disc from fading for longer giving me max distance. I have achieved 405 ft twice with that left to right wind assist with a star Colossus (which I lost at Usdgc) 😑what disc do you suggest for max distance with a tail wind? I’m still wanting to find a disc that will get me more distance, wind or not. Do you have a specific disc you use for tail wind shots? Thanks.
@DiscGolfDemastus Жыл бұрын
I guessed the results pretty accurately. You can usually see someone’s form and tell how farm they throw. Not alway, but often.
@thor9722 Жыл бұрын
My confident max control distance with a driver during no wind at flat ground regular air pressure and average atmosphere temperature (24C) is between 320 - 340. Without control it is about 350 - 410. I heard all kind of people saying they can toss over 400, but in the actual field you can easy tell what distance range they really have by the form they perform😂😂😂.
@BeboBobaBuddy Жыл бұрын
Our measured PBs are the same
@paulking0512 Жыл бұрын
Trevor, after seeing this, can you break down your form in an upcoming video? You have a smooth, unique throw.
Will disc up or down for various circumstances for various distances. Ex) 300 firebird backhand for right to left skip...
@charlesbolstridge3871 Жыл бұрын
Coming from someone who lives in the mountains on the west coast there's only Hills in Virginia lol
@RINGOMONJ Жыл бұрын
It's interesting I don't have much max distance- something like 375' is about where I top out. But my stock shots go further than yours on putters and mids- especially forehand. Makes me wonder if I'm throwing stock shots too hard with those disc classes? Or I'm losing good form with drivers trying too hard so they don't fly right...
@RINGOMONJ Жыл бұрын
Sorry just watched the end of the video and I think you explained this. It's either you have a low stock power% or just that you have a good max distance form which I basically never try. My stock "form" fairway and driver distances are very close to yours BH.
@michaelclarke1716 Жыл бұрын
Your nose angel could be worse. Driver's are more sensitive to being nose up than slower disc. He's also throwing sky annys in his max distance throws utilizing the glide.
@RINGOMONJ Жыл бұрын
@@michaelclarke1716 thanks for the comment! This is a great point- I those are two things I should focus on in my practice- controlling the nose angle and learning that big anny angle. I do find myself throwing stall shots a lot when I throw drivers...
@route5discgolf Жыл бұрын
Hyzer flip guy AKA throwing all Anhyzer
@Quasimdod Жыл бұрын
I'm currently working on my timing and x-step and so far my "max" distance is about 300ft (bare in mind i have only played for about 2 years)
@iamchaz4682 Жыл бұрын
Are... Are you me?
@keisi1574 Жыл бұрын
@@iamchaz4682 Is that me?!?
@kenoldaker3581 Жыл бұрын
Roller?
@Act1onJonny Жыл бұрын
Top for me is 350' trying hard w/o messing up. Average probably 280-320 flat.
@discsmd Жыл бұрын
I need to do this! Maybe I'll post ot on my channel...lol