Get Rid Of That Bloated Desktop Environment And Install Openbox

So you're tired of that heavy, bloated desktop environment. And you're ready to go "window manager only." But tiling window managers seem too intimidating or too complicated. Well, one of my favorite window managers is actually a floating window manager called Openbox. In this lengthy video, I will install Openbox on Linux Mint and show the basics of getting started.
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[@OveRaDaMaNt]

I actually got rid of those minimal window managers and installed KDE.

[@anonymoususer5402]

I use tiling window managers, but what does the term bloating desktop environment suggest? These bunch of youtube nerds are a way crossing their limits now. That's why people say, linux sometimes doesn't appear welcoming at all. Those who use gnome or kde are being targeted of using desktop environment, the work needs to be done. These bunch of youtubers just have to configure tiling window managers because they don't have any other work.

[@mke7605]

Anonymous User on the other hand you watch those videos, so I guess you had nothing to do either.

[@AbduleeFtw]

I honestly think those minimal wm dont stay very minimal when you start making them a bit more functional. I used awesomewm for like 6months but at the end of the day I realized I was just makin it hard for me thats just my workflow i guess

[@araa5184]

@@anonymoususer5402 I just want to minimize the space used by the utilities and packages itself, so I could just use extra space for development. Always looking for that

[@heroe1486]

@@anonymoususer5402 ( Btw T was tinkering with WM and other stuff before his channel becomes a thing, it's certainly his passion. ) And what nonsense dude, it's like everything, it takes few hours to configure at the beginning then it gives you an efficient workflo, which REALLY help you make the work done, especially when you are a developer, I've never spent less time on configuring ( and distrohopping ) than now that I'm using Arch + i3 . No one told you to wmhope everyday. I'm not sure if you guys realize that windows and Mac OS users could use the same arguments you use against twm against you ?After all they bought a piece of hardware and never touched anything to make it work, that's far more straightforward than what you did :)

[@thijshaker6451]

Next: Compositors are bloat, run everything in the framebuffer instead.

[@jezzackk3453]

Next all the de and wm are bloat, use only the kernel

[@thijshaker6451]

@@jezzackk3453 Indeed, userspace is bloat.

[@jezzackk3453]

@@thijshaker6451 the kernel is bloat don't use the pc

[@thijshaker6451]

@@jezzackk3453 Strongly agree! :-)

[@dougtilaran3496]

@@jezzackk3453 I run encyclopedia Britannica_paper-1966.Heavy but no bloat. If you run out of toilet paper it multi-tasks Qt well.If you tear pages and wadd them up itl'l pop the kernels, CAUTION

[@nightmarenova6748]

KDE is still the king for me, got too used to it

[@BlackSpineHorror]

Same. Tried XFCE recently, to find out it has HIGHER memory usage than Plasma, with less features.

[@briansrcadventures1316]

@@BlackSpineHorror Increasing bloat and more sluggish performance seems to be a common feature with new releases of distros.. I'm certainly finding Mint 20 Cinnamon not quite as brisk as Mint 19.3 Cinnamon.

[@alvarojneto]

What about LXDE/LXQt? That's the one in considering at the moment

[@nightmarenova6748]

@@alvarojneto if you like the look and feel of it, go ahead, but for me they are inferior to KDE at least for what i do for my customizations

[@nightmarenova6748]

@@fossware if you are a ubutnu user i can see that being true, if you use any other you would know why kde is more than awesome,clean,fast despite you saying its bloated, i put it on vm's a d old pc's with no problem at all. Definition of bloated, slugish mess, is GNOME for me but feel free to correct me

[@fabulo19]

nothing makes me feel safe like DT telling me to hit enter

[@matyasmarkkovacs8336]

I would probably choose XFce (or Mate or LxQt) if I need a minimal, but functional, customisable, and fast DE. Openbox isn't bad, but this is too much tinkering for a DE to make it usable for daily use. However a preconfigured distro with Openbox could be good, because it saves time. If you have time and energy to tinker around, this is a really good and customisable DE, but it's definitely not for everyone.

[@democracybacksliding]

Freaking awesome find for a 58 yr old (banging my head against the wall) 1st year learning Linux ...finding great rewards...THANK YOU..! as Crapple/Loogle/dirty windows are a waste of time unless you like artificial search results, ball & chain, propitiatory products.

[@elephantora8953]

Openbox is very minimalist, which makes me love it.

[@dougtilaran3496]

I've come to the conclusion that openbox is the only proper WM

[@happyfeet4506]

Openbox is a clean open desktop it's brilliant

[@richardravich8337]

DT, Apersign is really called an ampersand. Being an old printer guy, it bothered me when you said ampersign! Great video, though.

[@sigmundfreud4472]

Wtf. Fastest unsub in my life smh.

[@SlideRSB]

I'm going to start calling them "ampersign" from now on.

[@inigo8740]

@@SlideRSB XD

[@kaptkraut]

Ampersand is for running the program in the background btw. Just if anybody is asking himself.

[@kylestubblefield3404]

On debian based systems you should install the meta package build-essential that will get the C/C++ environment setup as well as getting the usual make tools like autoconf and automake.

[@name18playz51]

17:58 "sudo pa-" Ceritified arch linux user

[@dearvivekkumar]

Hi there are lots of video on video on this channel related with window manager. It would be nice to create a video listing all things needed for using a wm with all the tools in some organized manner - wm - compositor - launcher - setting up panel - setting up tools in panel like audio, network, session manger, date time , system info - init process -

[@heroe1486]

He's spoken about all of this in various videos but yes it could demystify minimal twm to those who fear them

[@dearvivekkumar]

@@heroe1486 you are right and I have seen lots of video on this channel too. However, there are people exist how don't have that much knowledge for making is as fancy as in the videos. I am on that journey too, and feel like quitting after some try, may be time constraints is also a issue. However, you are making such interesting videos to I thought of sharing my view on how to make the content more useful and inspiring to people not much knowledge. If one understand what take a Desktop Environment like thing to be built from scratch. From last weeks in wm journey, I found that there are 2 important aspect for it. What things I am using from DE and what are components needed for doing those stuffs. So if there are some playlist or paid courses where these things are explained and what are alternatives (at least 2) then it would be better according to me. So a beginner can get started and more and more people will start getting benefits from this awesome channel.

[@_MPP_]

Hey DT! Hey DT, don't you know that ctrl + a in terminal takes you to the start of the line, ctrl + e goes to the end of the line. Hey DT, in this video I saw you scrolled with arrow keys and just wanted to inform you. Hey DT, take care DT, bye DT!

[@SMOKE3104]

I would love to ditch the bloat but I just like things working right out of the box. 😔🤷

[@thierrybo6304]

That is also what i want if I would change my distribution very often. But if it is not the case, it is worth investing a little time to configure Openbox, with the advantage you feel more "in control" of your system.

[@furiousfellow1583]

I took the call to action you made about a month ago to try awesome fulltime, it really changed my workflow, i realized wm really makes you more productive mainly because full DE have a lot distractions where you are clicking on things everywhere and animations happens, then I tried to go back to XFCE, its still my favorite DE, but window manager only really have its advantages, congratulations you converted me to a AwesomeWM user. Maybe in the future I will try openbox as well...

[@riseabove3082]

Yah, usually people go to Openbox and then to a tiling window manager. Since you are on Awesome stay Awesome. lol. I'm using i3wm and I really am enjoying it. I installed Manjaro XFCE which is very good and works very well for me but I can't stay away from i3wm on my other computer.

[@furiousfellow1583]

@@riseabove3082 thanks for the replies! Im new on this and I was thinking of trying more stuff out, but now I think I will stay awesome and dive more into lua

[@J3zu5]

I think my linux is bloated, i wanna switch to calculater.

[@linuxinside6188]

Lol

[@_MPP_]

See you later alligater

[@sumnerd69]

also bloat, jumpers and leds on breadboards is the only way to go

[@enderger5308]

Abacus

[@mynicknameislion1385]

@@sumnerd69 personally i just have a few hundred slaves with tablets who do my computers calculations for me and then send it back to my monitor

[@RitzyBusiness]

Openbox is just dated, and doesn't offer the same performance advantages it did in the past. KDE and Gnome have matured properly, to the point the difference is minimal even if RAM usage is higher despite being full fat DE's. At least tiling WM's offer a significant change to your workflow, something that might work for you.

[@URTonemanclan]

Why did people stick with winXP for years after even Win7 came out? Why did people stick with Win7 until MS had to force updates to Win10? BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT "SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO YOUR WORKFLOW"... they are not developers... they are making money with the computer....

[@Flackon]

Daniel Chapiesky as opposed to developers? Who don’t make money with the computer?

[@SlideRSB]

That's okay. I like dated.

[@dougtilaran3496]

IceWM does !

[@fishmanloveslinux7978]

@JRPG W E E B why don't you just simply press the Superkey and use the up and down arrow keys?

[@bjornarsimonsen7592]

Just installed xmonad as per one of your previous videos and, well, it's different for sure. It's my first time experimenting with tiling wm's although I no longer consider myself a noob. I've just always been biased against anything that looks outdated to me. I was always annoyed by the seeming tendency of everything linux looking old. I mean most modern computers today can easily handle even the most bloated DE these days without any lag or not enough leftover RAM. But I'm gonna keep xmonad for a while and try to get familiar with it. It definitely can have some advantages in terms of workflow, + it gives you the nice esoteric-elitist, hardcore linux feeling :) (still not sure if I actually like that, haha) One thing I perhaps would like if possible would be to able to run both my fully-fledged DE concurrently with xmonad at a different TTY, just for the workflow thing. I've done a few experiments with that and have been able to get it partially working, but struggle with getting Xorg to run multiple servers (or screens?). I would greatly appreciate some tips on that. Great videos though! Love them :)

[@smeqwack7337]

What I like about openbox is how configurable it is. Like it's name, its a box where you put the things you want to your own liking.

[@poseidon3032]

Now, we need it adapted to Wayland.

[@danielktdoranie]

The most based man on the internet, Linux Chad

[@danielktdoranie]

Adam Hughes you’re definitely gay

[@klokibril]

Crazy timing! Just tried out Manjaro KDE yesterday and considering switching from i3 to KDE

[@tonythai5991]

Comments are bloats.

[@cubdukat]

I recently tried that with the latest version of Linux Mint, and for some bizarre reason it didn't seem to find Python, so it couldn't build it. Any ideas? That's only in LM, BTW; every other distro builds Menumaker just fine, if it doesn't already have it in their repositories.

[@johnc3403]

Your openbox menu theme is lovely. I've been using it for a year now (Arch/Openbox/dt-dark-theme) but where you have white text on the unselected and selected items, I changed mine to white on black unselected, and black on green selected. I find the black text on the green background much easier to read. Thanks for a great theme Derek.

[@AriannaEuryaleMusic]

Only Starbucks hipsters use Windows managers and rice up, Real productive people use Windows Vista.

[@somethingcoolgoeshere]

For me I had an issue where menumaker would hang after execution and not do anything so heres how you fix it: 1) follow the instructions up until it asks you to run 'make install' (don't run it) 2) do an 'ls' in the menumaker folder and look for an executable binary named 'mmaker' 3) you might have to 'nano mmaker' and change the shebang to use python3 instead of 'python' 3) run the mmaker binary from that folder like dt runs it in the video so 'mmaker openbox' 4) it should work

[@TheThunderSpirit]

i think getting xfce4 (without the apps) with just the panel is the best desktop environment. WMs are soo bad. time consuming to configure

[@adamsinger77]

Lxappearance-obconf will add the obconf to lxappearance so you only have one place to go to change everything as far as appearance themeing.

[@jozsefk9]

KDE is great for me now

[@minepro1206]

Ewww 🤢. At least it's not GNOME.

[@jozsefk9]

@@minepro1206 when did you try KDE last time?

[@minepro1206]

@@jozsefk9 A year ago I believe. The right-click menus and settings made no sense. Also, I was trying for a long time to get rid of some memos in my Desktop.

[@jozsefk9]

@@minepro1206 I haven't used KDE since KDE 4 replaced KDE 3. That's many years now. But few months ago, when Kubuntu 20.04 showed up, I tried it again. And it works better now than any other DE for me.

[@minepro1206]

@@jozsefk9 GNOME is for the birds, I don't like KDE, XFCE is getting old and receives little support... I still use XFCE though but if it doesn't receive enough support in the future, I'll jump to Cinammon which is a great DE.

[@BatteryProductions]

I dont know.. my xfce is great, i see no reason to change :/

[@MrRenanwill]

Yeah! It depends a lot, but I would jump if I encounter some good theme for a Tiling Window Manager that I could feel comfortable to customize, but not now.

[@TheGruselmops]

Is there a DE that has true auto tiling capability? I like xfce but I have to tile the windows manually, that sucks.

[@theincrediblehulk2865]

Great review and installation video of OpenBox!

[@happyfeet4506]

I've tried gnome, xfce, kde. Now I've discovered open box, it's a lovely clean desktop, it's fast and it's light, my new daily driver. Open box is a revalation

[@estudiordl]

I remember blackbox and fluxbox from my early years in Linux. Im on mate from oh so many years now, but I love it, its just what I need. 😃

[@willywantoknow2563]

Openbox was my first favorite! I loved how fast it was, how simple it was, and it had just what i wanted. Im not a computer wiz for editing and programing, but i like the simple "real" work platform without distractions.

[@cfischer691]

18:29 When you rebuilt your menu with mmaker, you lost the top level menu and the icons. Is there a way to keep those?

[@joaopauloalbq]

Do not use Openbox. Use Awesome which can be floating or tilling!

[@PaulWigle]

Installed openbox on my secondary Linux box, I like it, will have to play with the configs. Sure is snappy compared to cinnamon, but I am kind of set in my ways, but will give it a fair shake, you may convert me yet, thanks DT 👍🏻

[@cyberp0et]

What about Lxqt D.E? That one is rather lighteeight.

[@thomaskosvic6103]

Bad premise. Linux desktop environs aren't bloated at all. All that is there, the user put there. The OS installer did not install it as in windows. If it is bloated, you did it.

[@YaniX_3]

umm i know it's a bit late but, it's not exactly true because everyone can decide what bloatware is on like any system and most of the things that come pre-installed not always needed for some users so they are called bloatware and because of that a window manager is a better choice for the people who really want to decide everything and everything about their desktop.

[@mandrasaptakmandal636]

can you please make a video on how to customize a system from scratch like Archcraft OS.... like changable themes and its panel with media control

[@landoc05]

The transwoman who created Openbox, Dana Jansens, is brilliant. My favorite window manager for X, it's incredibly powerful if you know what you're doing.

[@he3als]

note: u do not need a compositor, they can reduce performance but also add desktop effects, vsync and prevents windows trailing

[@linuxramblingproductions8554]

Sometimes you do because without one i get screen tearing but even with one i need picom to use glx or else it gets worse

[@maspoetry1]

do you actually need more than a terminal?

[@heroe1486]

He does need GUI programs for video/photo editing purpose, browser on terminal is possible but would be a pain or maybe just not suited for what he needs

[@mikemarcum9407]

I don't think you've really given fluxbox a fair shake. use it for two months, get used to tabs (i love them) and the slit is pretty slick.. the only negative is maintaining the configure files, all by hand. BUT, they are simple, easy to understand, text files you can edit with ANY editor. No programming language knowledge needed... Anyway, mho and/or 2 cents worth of rant... lol

[@SlideRSB]

I just became a regular OpenBox user a few weeks ago. I love OpenBox. I don't love Tint2.

[@dougtilaran3496]

Just use a cairo dock or even plank

[@entropiabinaria]

Great video, mate. I'm also a Linux user and I have learned a lot watching you. I'm starting to get into WMs little by little, and for now, I find openbox more interesting than other similar ones. Something that I found remarkable: you speak in a way that people who don't speak English natively can understand perfectly, without the help of subtitles. Besides, you explain everything, you go step by step, you don't leave anything to chance: brilliant. I'm subscribing right now. Greetings and best wishes from an emerging channel from Uruguay.

[@alpacamale2909]

These window managers are no good because when you start installing programs you need you will inevitably bloat your system with qt and gtk trash so why not just use a DE that has qt or gtk trash already customized for that system? do you enjoy having every program look different?

[@wesleyjrz]

That's not too hard to fix, DT have a videos teaching how to fix this problem: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpCwmpdplJaIsNE (look at the comments section for more tips), and you also find information about it in Arch Wiki. If you want to use those kind of applications, like WMs, you must read the documentation, if you do this everything will be fine.

[@linuxramblingproductions8554]

I don’t think so i have 626 packages on my system right now on kde i had roughly a thousand

[@TheThirdThrice]

I was legitimately frustrated earlier today that you did it have a new video on Openbox WOOOT

[@MiraSmit]

It's great for old computers. But if your system isn't overworking itself with a DE... No need to really go minimalist though.

[@HernandoFarias]

Hey! thank you for your videos! Is openbox the new version of fluxbox? (yep, I'm old)

[@JarppaGuru]

4:30 ofc its populated what its annoying dristo not only LINUXOS that every dev work and select enviroment VOLA! linux devs just dont ant win windows. lets all do own uf uf. do one linux os allready with "distro" wallpapers LOL

[@austersimon]

Just to add my POV: DEs are awesome if you want it to just work. All of them are really configurable as well! WMs are perfect if you are already familiar with Linux and want to make your perfect workflow they are what you want use.

[@LyncSoftConsulting]

Hi Thanks for such an informative introductory session on Openbox Can you make video 📹 on Fluxbox Customization as well

[@FerralVideo]

Hahah! My Linux adventure STARTED with Openbox (Fluxbox in particular) way back in the 90's! I loved it! I'm actually considering returning to it with inspiration and help from your "Turn your WM into a DE" vid.

[@poseidon3032]

Has OpenBox been adapted to Wayland, or what window managers work with Wayland? Tired od distro hopping to find one to work with an old laptop. Going to have to build a Linux configuration myself. Reclaiming old systems has made this Linux move even more difficult, but in the end, it'll be worth it. Given the coming electronic-supply-chain squeeze, if it comes into fruition.

[@Turplemaple6318]

Next video: How to get rid of all bloatware and use calculator instead.

[@qwertyuiop-gn5vi]

Awesome video content. I am beginner and needed to find proper teacher about gnu/linux step by step for starter tutorial. This work from minimal window manager is great learning path to see bigger picture how things works. For example i did not know about parts in desktop environment. I tho bar is part of desktop environment but it is just separate program. Because of this helpfull guideline i understand system better. Thank you for sharing knowledge

[@piratedragon703]

Do you know if its possible to have a slideshow wallpaper on OpenBox? I can set it for 2 different monitors, but I can't figure out how to do a slideshow? If you know where I can look that'd be great... I just can't find any definitive answers on it.

[@accroment765]

Got an error down below whenn tried to reconfigure openbox curently using lubuntu 22.04: Obt-Message: Failed to open an Input Method

[@davidolsen5591]

calm down on the elitism. sincerely, a tiling wm user.

[@hogstudio4819]

Right, he's a bit too elitist about the work of others. Xmonad user here

[@zeocamo]

you know you don't need any WM or DEs ... tty1 to tty7 is all you need :)

[@riseabove3082]

Really?! cuz I'm not seeing it. I've seen others that show it to the extreme - ie Luke.

[@zeocamo]

@@riseabove3082 next you say the earth is flat :P

[@hogstudio4819]

@@zeocamo Well, Luke has said more than once that he exaggerates on purpose (because that's how the Internet works or something). For me, both are on the same level of misguided elitism

[@d1sasterMan]

It doesn't look bad in the end, but journey of "getting there" is everything that is wrong with desktop linux, things that stop it from gaining larger user base. Boy, that is not user friendly.

[@kantraa]

I think Polybar is better than Tint2. Especially if you have polybar-themes installed. But that's just my opinion.

[@HobbsBhipp]

This is awesome, can I reverse my present environment and start over using this? Every few months I have an issue with linux that screws up my workflow and it's frustrating as hell.

[@szyszkienty]

Going through all these tedious steps just to set up something like this on a modern PC that is fully capable of running a full-fledged desktop environment seems like a total waste of time. Maybe we should go even further and get rid of this "bloated" Linux kernel only to replace it with an inferior handcrafted solution in the name of "simplicity" and choice.

[@jameshall5556]

Choice requires sacrifice.

[@denniscleaver3559]

Stopped using any status panels on my system, completely. They just take precious horizontal space, and it's quite easy to work without them.

[@тимурныров-я7с]

icewm is much more functional, lighter and customizable....and besides, it is currently being actively developed.

[@dougtilaran3496]

Ice is fantastic. antiX got it right

[@charlieoscar09]

Are there any bloated Linux desktops....i dont think so. Openbox is a lighter interface, great for older hardware but it isnt a replacement for any Desktop

[@anonymoususer5402]

These youtube nerds are really crossing their limits now. How will linux be welcoming for new comers. I use tiling window manager but gnome or kde have their place and just bashing them doesn't make tiling window managers cool.

[@GuyWhoChad]

wow configuring openbox is fun man, much better than shitting on haskell

[@LloydLynx]

I've played with different window managers, I've even tried sway on a vanilla arch install. I think I'm most comfortable on my stock Fedora.

[@hamdi-kadri]

Thanks a lot for this video, it made me revisit Openbox (and fall in love with).

[@loganrosenthal4568]

I have everything correct in the autostart file yet my tint2 panel does not autostart but everything else does, what could it be?

[@pixel-grapher]

I love your channel, but have a question, why is your voice Bass and Treble heavy at the same time, it hurts my ears.

[@presentarmsonlinux]

No argument from me going Openbox :D Just released an ISO :D

[@leviticus8930]

Chab

[@presentarmsonlinux]

@@leviticus8930 Thanks :D

[@justinhall3243]

I settled on openbox back in 2012 as a refugee from the Gnome apocalypse

[@TariqH]

hi thanks for all the support that you provide me with can you updat us on how to install it on fedora 37

[@oglothenerd]

I hate xml.

[@ProphetNoble]

I love openbox I didn't know people still used it

[@lowrider298]

Just a joke or for real?

[@ProphetNoble]

@@lowrider298 I'm forreal

[@doxanthropos]

Have you heard of bunsenlabs and archlabs? If not you should take a look.

[@ProphetNoble]

@@doxanthropos thanks for that information good to know there are distros still using openbox

[@nulpunenergie]

hey dt Why don't you create a similar video about Waybox? :)

[@corycaserta748]

'amper-sign' should be, 'ampersand' in the future....

[@camerontgore]

Awesome stuff DT! But how can I do something like set the themes from the terminal instead of opening up a gui setting window?

[@johnphamlore8073]

Why exactly are you advocating people use apparent abandonware?

[@marcello4258]

i have the feeling virtual box is super snappi for you.. i have super bad experience in VB.. running a youtube video, for instance, causes my host (i7 with 6x2,8ghz) to pump up to 50% cpu load).. running in vmware runs just fine.. i tried 5.x, 6.x, 3d enabled, disabled all graphics adapters .. nothing helped.. anyone has an idea? no matter if it is manjaro, arch, deb, pop.. whatsoever.. and yes guest tools are of course installed properly.. and moving windows is also a super poor expierence

[@ToastedHeadcrab]

Please make a how to debloat grub boot loader it’s so bloated

[@renaldi6210]

Thanks DT, this video helps me a lot!

[@TheBlueThird]

Debian based systems usually install build-essential.

[@greatsaid5271]

the man who love openbox

[@shubhamdwivedi7766]

Everything is now bloat better use dumb terminal 🤣

[@akantor6760]

Nice might try this on my xubuntu but can we go with sakura terminal instead for default terminal for openbox? Very minimalistic terminal think would go good with it

[@AbduleeFtw]

I dont think openbox comes with a terminal emulator of its own and anything is better then xterm

[@akantor6760]

@@AbduleeFtw Will see, thanks for the info, ill try go with sakura, honestly never used xterm so have no feedback for that one

[@faxonics]

Because of you I got interest in linux

[@Lee_Adamson_OCF]

I really like openbox. I also really like notion. So I run notion, but on one workspace I run xephyr and run openbox within that. So I can use it for things like gimp and other software that doesn't work well in a tiling wm. But then again I am also one of those guys who wants Linux to behave like Unix, and refuses to use systemd distros whenever possible and does most things from an xterm. But I realize that's not for everyone. But it works alright for me.

[@GiorgioBeltrammi]

I want to thank you for this video. Actually i'm a NomadBSD user with openbox pre-installed and customized, but i want also Mint with Ob. So this video is very useful to me. Thank a lot and forgive my bad english.

[@BrucesWorldofStuff]

Nice introduction to OpenBox! I find that interesting sense I got away from Desktops and went with Window Manager's... I'll give that a try in my test VM of Mint 20... Lol Thanks for the video! LLAP

[@WWhitegoat]

Man that was interesting. I used openbox years ago when Crunch-bang was a popular distro. When Crunch-bang went away, I used Semplice for a while until it started crashing on me. Now a days I use Feren OS because it seems to be really stable on my system. I remember there was a lot of learning curve to using open box, and I think that was the whole a peel in it that made it fun to use. I kinda want to go back to openbox, but like some many Linux users experience - you get burnt out from distro hopping.

[@HattiYounes]

I will definitely try it when I get home. And keep the black background

[@TennesseeFrank]

Excellent Video. Just did a look at SparkyLinux Rescue Edition with Openbox. Think I may add Openbox on my Debian/KDE install. Thanks for the video.

[@JLeppert]

How the heck does one get into wifi in openbox

[@jameshall5556]

Commandline preferably. If you need, there are plenty of GUI applications to handle this.

[@JLeppert]

@@jameshall5556 ah, passive aggressive non-answers. The internet is amazing at letting us be mean anonymously. Yes, I know, "look it up." I did. I was asking the question here. 1) personal interaction and such. 2) getting a single answer about anything Linux is next to impossible. 2-a) DT will give me his best option, which never fails me.

[@stevet7522]

Has openbox not been updated in 7 years? Thats the most recent date I see on the website.

[@Robertass2000]

yes indeed seems OB is really not updated for several years. Maybe devs consider this product is sophisticated enough not to touch it. But you said 7 years !! WOW, very long ago.

[@adamsinger77]

If it ain't broke don't fix it :)

[@benmcwhirter4566]

Well I'm on arch cinnamon moving arch openbox

[@benpollay5803]

I cannot deal with that start menu and mousewheel zoom. Is there a better window manager than openbox that actually has a start menu with search feature? I tried Jigmenu on openbox but that menu doesn't have search.

[@URTonemanclan]

Gnome Flashback - You can't arrange icons on the desktop - 10k lines of desktop code and you can't arrange icons on the desktop... "it's too hard"..... what the hell? Gnome lost their minds