Get rid of that demon baby!! Alex watches Dune Part Two for the first time (Reaction and Commentary)

[@nick4819]

Dune movies are not inspired by Star Wars movies. Dune movies are inspired by the Dune book.

[@edwardeld19]

Also, no matter what movie came first, the story of Dune prevails as the pioneer, like Asimov's Foundation too

[@alanfoster6589]

@@edwardeld19 E.E. "Doc" Smith's LENSMAN series predates, and inspires them all.

[@Zues4235]

@@oslafoirausuebutuoy5457yes and so was game of thrones

[@rikk319]

@@oslafoirausuebutuoy5457 To an extent. Also by Foundation, Errol Flynn films, and WW2 movies.

[@logandarklighter]

@@rikk319 Original Star Wars - George Lucas' Star Wars - was all those things. But also Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers etc. Tatooine does have many of the imagery and trappings of Dune. But none of the deeper meaning. And a CRITICAL way in which Star Wars and Dune are VERY different - Star Wars follows the classic "The Hero's Journey" cycle. And Dune very deliberately - calculatedly - does NOT. Luke becomes a hero. Paul Muaddib Atriedes starts as an anti-hero and becomes an anti-villain.

[@BenjaminKleager]

I think you underestimated what becoming a Reverend Mother did to Pauls mother - she inherited the memories and knowledge of all the Reverend Mothers before her. The person that survived the Water of Life is Jessica in name only. She is an amalgamation of all those who came before her - a chorus of voices with Jessica being just the newest among them. She choose her witch era after her husband died and went full send.

[@puremadness]

now imagine all of that happening to you while you’re a fetus, giving you full adult consciousness inside your mother’s womb, and you have Alia

[@eKko0]

@@puremadness to be the worlds first reverend foetus is a sick record to hold

[@dansmart3182]

The Emperor killed Leto because he couldn't grow a beard is now my head cannon.

[@LordVolkov]

I dunno, the Emperor in 84 had a pretty dope goatee 😉

[@penguin50279]

the baby isn’t evil or anything 😂. she took the water of life as well so she’s just a grown up in a fetus body.

[@alessandrozigliani2615]

Yeah she is not evil, of course. Until good old grandpa overwhelms her consciousness...

[@unevenstreets1182]

@@alessandrozigliani2615yeah but she kill’s herself so redemption.

[@firefly24601]

SEVERAL grownups in a fetus body 😇

[@jcs1025]

Alia’s not evil…yet.

[@AORaiMechWork]

@@firefly24601 All the Grown up

[@torbenjons382]

Paul to Chani in the books: “I swear to you now,” he whispered, “that you’ll need no title. That woman over there will be my wife and you but a concubine because this is a political thing and we must weld peace out of this moment, enlist the Great Houses of the Landsraad. We must obey the forms. Yet that princess shall have no more of me than my name. No child of mine nor touch nor softness of glance, nor instant of desire.”

[@technofilejr3401]

Wish the director had put that into this movie.

[@torbenjons382]

@@technofilejr3401 I was surprised he didn't. But I understand the decision in hindsight. He gave Chani a more active (contemporary) role in the movies. In the books, she was a side character, at best. I don't begrudge that change. I just feel there could have been a middle way, other than making it look (superficialy) that Paul doesn't care...

[@Akaeus]

The big thing that gets sacrificed in the change is Zendaya doesn't really make her more than 2 dimensional and a skeptic. Her love for Paul is not very present beyond two scenes together

[@sparda9060]

@@torbenjons382 I think they will show what was in the book in the 3rd movie where they actually make the audience understand it better since they didn't do any exposition between her and paul's relationship in 2nd movie. I think they left this out in 2nd movie cuz of all the action sequences and the plot moving forward at a brisk pace. 3rd movie will have this relationship dynamic between the love triangle characters; Paul, Princess, Chani.

[@torbenjons382]

@@sparda9060 not sure there is a triangle... Paul loves Chani. Princess is a figurehead But I agree, that whole dynamic will need to be explored in pt3

[@Ledzgo504]

We all need someone as supportive as Stilgar

[@elbruces]

Best hype man in the galaxy.

[@Chris-tp2sc]

LOL laughing at all the times they said Star Wars inspired Dune. Dune was a main inspiration for Star Wars.

[@Shaarpest]

No stunt doubles for those fights, that's actually Timothee and Austin for the whole fight.

[@thyop89]

Yep! All Austin and Timmy. They trained hard for it too. There's a fun bts video with Austin training with he stunt men.

[@Rock-n-Rolla369]

One of the main themes of “Dune” is the terrible danger of the masses putting too much faith and trust in leaders and heroes. “Heroic leaders often made mistakes…mistakes that were amplified by the number of followers who were held in thrall by charisma.”

[@j.jennings1722]

In the novel, Paul and Chani had been together for two years and already had a child together, who was killed during the Seitch Tabr attack, when he proposed marriage to Irulan, and Chani already knew she could never marry Paul. Still, she was upset, thinking Paul might be swayed by Irulan's beauty, but Jessica sets her straight in the final paragraphs of the novel, with what has commonly become known as the "Wives Speech." Chani doesn't leave Paul and is a totally different character in the novel.

[@sparda9060]

I think they changed Chani character reaction to the marriage here in this movie to set up the audience to understand it better in 3rd movie where Chani accepts the role of an actual wife to Paul, but shes just a concubine in name only. Just like Princess is wife in name only but her real role was just a secretary to Paul, which leaves her extremely jealous of Chani. Since they didnt have enough runtime to really did exposition on Chani and Paul's 2 year relationship before the final battle here, they set it up this way to make it easier for audience to grasp Chani's role as the being the same in the book. I think Chani's reaction and behavior and knowelge that she is Paul's real wife who she sleeps with and has another son, will be seen in the 3rd movie.

[@j.jennings1722]

@@sparda9060 I hope you're right

[@JunYuki]

I swear if Rebecca Ferguson doesn't get the highest accolades for her performance in this movie, I say we riot!

[@tomaskennedy]

34:04 Jessica wasn’t actually married to Leto (Paul's father). She was his concubine; basically his wife in every real sense, but he had to remain unmarried so that, if necessary, he could marry a princess from a rival family to form a political alliance, as Paul does with the Emperor’s daughter, Irulan, at the end of the movie.

[@samovarsa2640]

I feel like a fool - the gladiator fight in Geidi Prime is also supposed to subtly hint at the fact that Harkonnens and Atreides are the same - the helpers use futuristic banderillos to subdue Feyd's opponent, just like bullfighters have helpers to subdue bulls (Paul's grandfather). Hell, the Harkonnen helpers even have bull-like helmets!

[@jessaandalexwatch]

Ooh good catch!

[@tubesocksofchaos1]

One of the Finnish words for Bull is Harka. a bullfight is a härkätaistelu. So when he said his grandfather Died fighting bulls it was an inside reference to having been fighting Harkonnen. The House Harkonnen coat of arms used to be a bull as well, but they changed it out of this movie for a different Aesthetic. Frank Herbert got the name "Harkonnen" from the Finnish name "Härkönen", which he found in a California telephone book. He wanted a harsh-sounding name for the villains of his novel, and "Harkonnen" sounded "Soviet".

[@ariadnepyanfar1048]

In an interview with director Denis Villeneuve after Dune Part 1 came out, he was asked what was most challenging about filming Dune? Denis answered very seriously: “Directing Timothée Chalamet’s hair.”

[@jessaandalexwatch]

😂😂

[@K.alexsadler]

If Lady Jessica hadn’t had Paul as a son for Leito, she was supposed to have a daughter that would marry Feyd. If Timmy was a girl, Feyd and Paul were meant for each other.

[@technofilejr3401]

As freaky as Feyd is I'm thinking they would have still wound up fighting with knives.

[@LordVolkov]

@@technofilejr3401 That's probably still part of the BG plan given their matriarchal system 🤔 Train Paula in the Weirding Way, get pregnant with the Kwizatch Haderach and eliminate Feyd after he becomes Emperor. Feyd would probably see through the scheme and then we get the arranged-marriage to lovers to enemies knife fight 👍

[@jonathanwesterdahl4854]

“Right in front of her salad?” took me the fuck out 😂😂😂

[@hackapump]

Paul grew up with a Bene Gesserit mother, he even got a Bene Geserrit education himself. They have supernatural control over their bodies. So the foetus speaking to Jessica is hardly something that would faze Paul. He is bothered by her manufacturing messianic fervour though, because it's a hoax. But the witchy stuff, that's all very mundane to him. For me the lines between the manufactured mythology of Lisan al Gaib and the actual magic of Bene Gesserit and ingestion of worm fluids gets blurred though. At some point the question becomes "what difference does it make?" The outcome is identical whether the myth was real or manufactured: What difference does it make that the story was made up if it ends up coming true? It seems Paul ultimately came to the same conclusion.

[@tubesocksofchaos1]

Don't forget he also got all that sword training from Duncan Idaho, the best swordsman in the Greater houses of the Landsraad. He ALSO got Mentat training fro Thufir Hawat. The kid was meant to win.

[@technofilejr3401]

@@tubesocksofchaos1 It’s rare that you see a protagonist like Paul who is raised in an environment of love and encouragement. From birth he is raised to be a confident and strong leader. Paul was raised to live out the hero’s journey. Most protagonists nowadays are lovable losers who fall into being a hero.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Austin Butler was an absolute amazing additon He plays the sociopathic yet somewaht honorable sadist quite well He was also the one who suggested that Feyd should sound more like Skarsgard (the baron) To show how the Baron raised him as the prodigal heir And he improved that second kiss with baron Harkonen, feeling he needed to show that there is a stronger connection between Feyd and Vladimir then between the baron and rabban. Two suggestions/directions that the director loved and kept in

[@bryanv1681]

"That baby is cursed." Oh, oh how right you are, poor thing.

[@70briareos]

LOL!!

[@qbanlink25]

that baby grows to be insanely powerful surpassing even Paul himself, the books go on long enough to make several more movies.

[@bryanv1681]

@@qbanlink25 No, no. This is Alia, not Leto II.

[@sparda9060]

@@qbanlink25 Alia is strong yes, but she had to killed off in the book cuz she got possessed by paul's grandfather. The most powerful being would be paul's 2nd son.

[@JamesSmith-hw6tl]

Dismounting a worm: he worm is run to exhaustion, slows, rider pulls maker hooks out, rider(s) slide down the side.

[@LordVolkov]

But what about Jessica's carriage? 😅

[@JamesSmith-hw6tl]

@@LordVolkov Good question, not explained in the book, the palanquin.

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

👀.... no spoilers but the scariest babies didnt even came yet, just wait

[@jessaandalexwatch]

Oh lord 😂

[@jonmercano1138]

“You can’t give him [one of the people who dehumanizes you, attack and murder you unprovoked and have been doing so for about 60 years] a mercy kill?” I’m a little skeptical she would consider that. They don’t show it here but the fremen have factory areas for making their equipment. So leaving thumpers behind isn’t too big a deal. As George Lucas said “It’s like poetry, it rhymes.” “They’re not concerned about her baby talking to her?” Well they do know she’s basically a witch, and she did drink the Water of Life while pregnant, which you know what that does, so the baby got that too. But in the book they are way more put off when they have the two year old talking to them, which I personally would’ve loved to see. Tiny, way too smart for her age, making jokes, and killing adult Harkonnen soldiers Alia is awesome! In the book Paul actually does give Chani the political marriage heads up, and she stays, though she’s not the happiest about it. They gave her a lot more in this movie, especially the whole anti-prophecy angle. I’m very curious to see what’s done with Chani in the next movie, the book of which I still need to read. It was revealed _this month_ that development on Messiah has started. So I would say at least a couple years before we get it

[@jessaandalexwatch]

Def interested to see what they do with Chani I’m the next movie based on what I’ve read of the changes they made to her for this one!

[@sVieira151]

@@jessaandalexwatch same! I like that they made the Fremen at least two dimensional in the films regarding the prophecy. It trades off a little of how powerful the BG are but it's definitely a more nuanced depiction of religious conversion

[@wackyvorlon]

Having read the book, I can confidently say that the movie will be incredible.

[@kellymoses8566]

Dune Messiah starts 10 years after Dune with Paul in complete control and married to Irulan but is faithful to Chani.

[@beefish00]

@@kellymoses8566 12 years

[@LordVolkov]

"I hear my girl Flo!" Florence is a great Irulan, but unfortunately Irulan has next to nothing to do in a Dune movie 😅 She's the author of the in-universe biographies of Paul, which the framing device is that Dune is a translation of her work, but doesn't get a lot of page time in the first book. She is rather awesome though, being a fully trained Bene Gesserit and one of the greatest beauties in the known Universe (so Flo is perfect casting 😍). She'll have more to do in Messiah.

[@elbruces]

I really do appreciate when an actor copies another actor's voice in order to make their character fit in the universe better. I noticed the same thing when Ewan MacGregor copied Alec Guinness' lilting accent in Star Wars. The only downside is that it makes it stand out more that other actors can't or won't do the same.

[@jessaandalexwatch]

Ooh yeah, Ewan’s Alec Guinnes voice is really good.

[@Mike-wg2vp]

star wars is exactly like dune, if dune had unsophisticated themes and was made for children

[@tomaskennedy]

35:21 A lot of stuff from Star Wars (The first movie was in 1977) was lifted straight from the Dune novels (1965).

[@Cedarlick]

"A campy villian" . See the 1984😢 version with Sting.

[@technofilejr3401]

Love Sting as a musician. But his Feyd-Rautha comes off as more of a naughty school boy than a physical threat.

[@70briareos]

I don't want to spoil anything, but there may be a good reason why it feels like Paul is deliberately driving Chani away. If you've read "Dune Messiah" you would understand.

[@firefly24601]

Alex: "Austin and Anya in the same movie will be good..." Jessa: "Mmmmm..." 😬

[@jimbruton9482]

Franks Herbert's Dune was partially inspired by the 1926 book The Seven Pillars of Wisdom authored by T.E. Lawrence. Some may know him as Lawrence of Arabia and his book was his memoir of Arabia.

[@aljosapetkovic69]

Star Wars was inspired by Dune not the other way around.

[@flarefox3118]

Dune isn’t inspired by Star Wars. Star Wars is inspired by Dune. The book series at least, which came out in the 50s.

[@kenandbarbie-b6c]

Well, actually the 60’s. But you are correct that some elements of Dune made Star Wars. Dune was targeted for adults that can appreciate politics, religion, & eugenics. Star Wars targeted a much simpler, younger audience.

[@K.alexsadler]

14:51 Very funny because Rebecca Ferguson’s husband looks like an older Timothee lol

[@jessaandalexwatch]

Omg, I saw that recently!! Hilarious

[@johnjungkook2721]

not really, because Rebecca's husband is tall af Dark hair and slightly european-looking is a lot of guys btw

[@amby8719]

@@johnjungkook2721they look kinda alike, even rebecca’s kid thought timothee was their dad

[@osamabinlaggin3281]

Chani in the book isn't like movie Chani, she actually knows the marriage is strictly political and believes in Paul, but ngl I'm glad they went this route but curious how it'll turn out for the third movie (supposedly coming out)

[@bigbadjohn7053]

Chani's defiance worked for this movie, but I'm wondering how they are going to write themselves out of it and get Chani in line for the Dune Messiah events.

[@fullMetaLxMantis]

​@bigbadjohn7053 considering Denis already finished the script he knew where it was going, also Paul did say she'll come around so he saw something in his prescience that she'll be with him.

[@IrrelevantPerson]

Supposedly the main reason was to have a better stand-in for the audience because too many people would miss the fact that paul is no longer the good guy

[@bigbadjohn7053]

@IrrelevantPerson and I think it worked well for this movie. She's what we should be, even though the audience is actually rooting Paul along. I just wonder if they stick to the Chani is the mother of Paul's children storyline, and the next movie takes place X? years later, as is being rumored, how they bring her story into line with the outcome of Dune Messiah. She's standing stoned face in one of the visions from part 1, and he gave himself an out in part 2 with the "she'll come around" line, just curious how they do it.

[@nathanruggles]

For those here who insist that this Dune film is in ow way inspired by Star Wars: Of course Dune was certainly written first and inspired Star Wars in so many ways; but to say that this film did not take visual cues and demonstrate consciousness of, influence from, acknowledgement of, and/or at least nods to the production design (at the very least) from Star Wars (just as these new films did from the 1984 Dune as well), then frankly you are blinding yourself to what is on screen in these films. Jessa and Alex made very good observations of a number of them. I'll add another: the "mirrorball" look of the Emperor's craft is incredibly reminiscent of Queen Amidala's craft in the Star Wars prequels, a near identically metallic craft that reflects the stark blue sky and tan sand of a desert planet. This is not an element from the books; it is solely from the production design of Star Wars (a design that came first). I would also venture to say that Villeneuve would likely be the first to acknowledge it.

[@Royal_Chief_Architect]

Chani being upset is in part about Heartbreak but it’s also about what he told her, that this path would lead to the death of billions across the galaxy. After taking the water, he became someone else than the man is father was proud of. It’s about prophecy now, which means destruction. He chooses the path made for him, not his own. He told her all of this so knowing that, how is she supposed to feel? I think it made since for her to leave, at least for the time being. “Don’t waste your water.” I’m not gonna sit here be heartbroken and cry. And I don’t need to fight a battle I don’t believe in. She needs to think, not just trail him. Love her in the films.

[@sVieira151]

I think Timmy is a bit chill because he figured once Jess had the blue juice and got the memories of every Reverend Mother in existence she'd be a bit weirder. Probably figured the blue juice affected his little sister too 🤣😅 Getting Star Wars visual references is just the Circle of Life 😌

[@LordVolkov]

🎶 The circle of life! 🎶 Does that make Lynch Simba, after George Lucas (Scar) pushes Jodorowsky (Mufasa) off the ledge?

[@sVieira151]

@@LordVolkov something like that 😂

[@LordVolkov]

Lol! Alex was ready for the version where Feyd Rautha becomes Emperor. To the keyboard ladies!😉

[@KolyoSofiata]

Well, as always with adaptations there are changes, the movie did handle the ending differently than the book. Chani and Paul at this point would've been together for years rather than a few months, Paul does have that conversation with her very explicitly telling her how things will stand if the political marriage happens rather than giving her the vague promise of love, and Jessica and Chani's relationship isn't as strained so she also has a talk with her about it. In fact, I'm pretty sure the whole book ends with Jessica's words towards Chani. I can see why they switched it up, but knowing how things go in the original story, it does feel like a cheap way to bring extra tension and anticipation for a sequel, rather than giving a fulfilling ending to this part.

[@juvandy]

Austin Butler and Rebecca Ferguson killed this movie. They are so incredible, in a cast that is uniformly amazing too. You should watch him in Masters of the Air. Two incredibly different performances and amazing to see him do both released at the same time.

[@thyop89]

Bye Bye pretty might be the funniest reaction I have heard to Feyd's death yet. 😂 I wholeheartedly agree though. We can all agree he's a bad, twisted man who has done some very sick things but he's VERY easy on the eye and the honourable fighter thing has clouded my judgement. Such a an interesting character, i wish he didn't have to go.

[@julianr8544]

14:57 I didn't realize just how short the age gap was until I looked it up. They're only 12 years apart.

[@zoesumra9152]

It's the acting bind - a man actor Ferguson's age is a major player, but a woman actor Ferguson's age is an older female relative. At least Jessica is one of the best female relative roles out there.

[@anonymouszebra1239]

star wars ain't got a patent on big arenas. dune the movies are inspired by dune the books. Great reaction!

[@zoesumra9152]

Some of the shots in both Star Wars movies and Dune are inspired by Leni Riefenstahl's Pro Nazi movie Triumph Of The Will - showing a fascistic army.

[@Ontir]

The blue headband signifies that Chani is pregnant. If you think Alia is messed up now, you have NO IDEA. She is preborn. A new body written a thousand generations of women in her mind. She can remember what he parents experienced as she was being conceived.

[@demos113]

50:40 The birds that were burnt were messenger birds (bats to be exact).

[@InnerFury]

Me and my wife just watched the entire Bon Jovi documentary on Disney+ which was very good, now I find this, my wife has gone to bed, I've got my whiskey, I can't wait to see your reactions to this! :)

[@InnerFury]

I loved your reactions to this, being a fan of romance, I felt so sorry for Channi! The memes are so good from this movie! I'll buy it on 4k blu ray, pre-ordered the soundtrack on cd, love the love theme, its on KZbin! I'm listening to Femme Fatale greatest hits on here now! lol I grew up with the ten commandments, Ben hur and king of kings movies, on at Easter when I was a kid, have the movies on blu ray and have the soundtracks on cd, I have a lot of movie scores and soundtracks on cd, recently I watched a few short interviews with Frank Herbert on here, fascinating watching what he said about environmental issues back in the 70's! There is a good audio interview with him on here that lasts an hour, very interesting on his research and ideas for Dune, thanks for doing the reactions video, be safe ladies :)

[@benhmn]

I guess Denis could have made it a little more clear, but Paul's actions at the end were specifically to protect Chani. Remember the Chani death vision? That was the future if he didn't choose the path of the Jihad.

[@LordVolkov]

You think he kills billions to save Chani? That's a pretty yikes interpretation.

[@benhmn]

No, I think he becomes the Kwisatz Haderach for the survival of himself and his loved ones. And the future unravels a certain way from that choice.

[@pogo1140]

​@LordVolkov he could kill millions and still get her killed. He's trying to thread a path that protects his family and chani. I he does not remove the emperor he will kill his family. Same thing with not killing the harkonnans

[@Henry-fn1zw]

LISAN AL GAIBBBBBB, stilgar is the biggest glazer ever

[@marvinchavez5292]

Dune movies are inspired in star wars movies 😂😂😂😂 oh please. Dune movies are based on Dune books.

[@somthingbrutal]

having the memories of every ancestor plus the memories of the old reverend mother is likely to change you. and think about how weird that would be for paul and alia they have every memory and feeling of their parents, well alia has the female line while paul has both sides all the way back to the dawn of humanity

[@LordVolkov]

Alia has both too (pre-born get both sides, it's not explored until later), but it may not make it into Messiah because it's mainly a set-up for Children of Dune. Paul has his own personality to stave off the torrent of spice memories while Alia is defenseless, but it does connect them like you mention - including to each other as Alia is already part of the chain when Paul drinks, so he sees her on his inner journey.

[@arraymac227]

I did _not_ use this as inspiration to insert 'if you know, you know.' into the Part 1 reaction.

[@n1ghtofthedead411]

Cut out the best part, what?

[@Jalakabaka420]

I was thinking the same thing lol

[@mmeade9402]

Busy discussing the white savior, the patriarchy or some other non-sense so ended up missing it, and just got edited out I assume?

[@desertfroggo2502]

18:00 Oh you have no idea. In the book, Alia is a toddler by the time Paul overthrows the Emperor, and it was she who killed the Baron, not Paul.

[@iaian7]

I enjoyed this film more the second time (in theatres) as well! Really enjoyed your reaction, and I’ll heartily echo your complements on the design. Fantastic. Loved it.

[@K.alexsadler]

Hot take Best chemistry: Feyd/Fenring > Paul/Chani

[@Cknows_]

Hot take indeed

[@K.alexsadler]

@@IamNinjaOfNinja fair Challengers Part 1

[@thyop89]

Feyd and Fenring has crazy chemistry for that one scene.

[@K.alexsadler]

Feyd being a little S&M sub is hilarious. The bene gesserit kiki afterward. Amazing 41:51

[@70briareos]

He probably got off from the Box Of Pain, LOL!!

[@K.alexsadler]

Irulan did say in their meeting that Feyd liked the box lol

[@70briareos]

@@K.alexsadler - LOL!!!

[@StevenHouse1980]

In the book by the time of Paul becomeing Emperor the war to liberate the planet has been going for years. Chani was the mother of his son who was killed just a few days before, and yet Chani knew and was in favor of his political mariage and being his concubine as long as she was the biological mother to all his children. In the after becomeing Emperor Paul and Chani had twins.

[@Red_Ryan_Red]

Y’all are hilarious lol some of my favorite people

[@kuntilanakhybrid404]

Paul see everything. He must do what hes doing. Bcs if not something bad is gonaa happen.

[@CadTrii234]

So interesting you say Feyd could have been campy and frenetic by another acting choice. Reference Sting playing Feyd in the 1984 Dune!

[@BowlingGreenTampaMan]

Listen to a Old Man , PLEASE . I think you both might really like the Audible audiobook of this story . Both you ladies hit so close , yet importantly off , on some of your theories. Now that you have seen these gorgeous films you might fall deeper into the REAL story and what is to come .

[@dansmart3182]

You guys should watch the 1984 dune. The one directed by David Lynch, Starring Kyle Mclog.... Macgl...... Agent dale cooper, and Patrick Stewart as Gurney who runs into battle while carrying a pug.

[@LordVolkov]

And another Star Wars connection with the great Max Von Sydow! Weird how that came back around.

[@70briareos]

@@LordVolkov - You want another deep dive Star Wars connection; Sian Phillips, the actress who played Reverend Mother Mohiam in the David Lynch version also played the Night Sister Charal in "Ewoks: The Battle For Endor".

[@LordVolkov]

@@70briareos Nice one! I haven't seen the Ewok movies since I was a kid but I totally connect the Voice 😉

[@kayosiiii]

It's interesting that you bring up different ways of playing Austin Butler's character. You should look up clips of Sting playing that role in the 1984 movie - It's a lot of fun.

[@jessaandalexwatch]

Haven’t watched yet, but def seen the pics; that speedo is iconic!

[@kayosiiii]

@@jessaandalexwatch I mean the rest of it doesn't quite live up to the speedo. But choices were made.

[@BBFilms88]

GOT ripped a lot of Dune off, just wait til we enter "Dune: messiah"

[@Drummer4President]

Jessa can’t have watched this twice and still think that the baby is the problem…. right? 😅

[@pseudonymousbeing987]

Alien infrared yet grounded brutal violence doesn't scream Star wars to me personally. The arena scene is very original.

[@sVieira151]

Only part way through but I just want to add my voice to the Evil appreciation team!

[@obelisk21]

Earthworms actually pass some dirt through their bodies so I assume it would be the same idea for the worms of Arrakis. In through the mouth and out through the back along with regular excrement.

[@zoesumra9152]

Another example: parrotfish eat coral - they crunch it up to eat the soft parts and the symbiotic microorganisms - and excrete sand.

[@reginaldking5972]

Jessica was very timid in the first movie. When she met the reverend mother with Paul and she told him do everything she says. The reverend mother chastises her for having a boy. But when she drank the water of life, she became a reverend mother and is sister and, like reverend mothers do "plans within plans" Put my favorite part is when she told Paul we'll be waiting, all of us. She controlled paul, and there was nothing he could do about it.

[@cliveklg7739]

"I think the people of this set just showed up to work." The miniseries "Shogun" they have done the same. Unbelievable acting, set design, story, cinematography in that. Anna Sawai is a phenomenal actress. Look at photos of Austin Bulter in "Masters of the Air" You'll fall in love there. I'd be curious to see you react and compare the SyFy miniseries version. IMO these films are better visually, but the SYFY is better storywise. And the SYFY has really good acting too. They also have a second minseries covering the Next 2 books, with James McAvoy in it. The books describe Fremen having factories, so they make their own thumpers stilsuits, and more. My favorite piece from this film is called "A Time of Quiet Between the Storms" There is something so enchanting and meditative about that piece.

[@PasserMontanus]

I'm always happy to hear more love for that excellent seduction scene! So few people talk about it!

[@K.alexsadler]

50:54 birds are their carrier pigeons between seitch communities

[@bluedestiny88]

You both have hilarious commentaries on the movie. Subscribed

[@acer1325]

That fight at the end was all Timothee & Austin. No stunt people involved.

[@johnjungkook2721]

lmao timothee did not spin in the air, that was a stunt double. All of Paul's flashy moves were done by a stunt double. You can see the double in the BTS footage.

[@acer1325]

@@johnjungkook2721 My bad if I’m mistaken, I thought it was confirmed they did it themselves, since I watched an interview where they said that.

[@thyop89]

Austin performed the entire fight himself for the arena and the one on one with Paul. Can't speak to Timmy, I would think he did most, if not all.

[@ethanblack7626]

1:03:13 wait... have you guys watched iwtv?? s2 iscoming soon

[@jessaandalexwatch]

Yessss

[@cb5056]

Feyd - Rautha kisses his uncle Vladimir because in the books they have a romantic relationship

[@thyop89]

Not exactly, it's strongly implied that the Baron is a pedophile and has sexual desire for Feyd-Rautha. They didn't include this in the movie but Austin added the reciprocal kiss with his uncle as a subtle nod to this part of the book.

[@stephenbaines9750]

This movie is heartbreaking to me. It says humans are so broken. And there isn't an answer.

[@timdkunz]

You’re so right on point. Dunno if you’ve read the whole series of the original 6 books but the first one is just the appetizer.

[@PasserMontanus]

That's an overarching theme of the books as well. Props to DV for translating that into a movie.

[@8301TheJMan]

My favorite movie of all time! Great reaction! And BTW - you guys are absolutely hysterical, like legit every time you guys reacted to some of the shit Lady Jessica said and did, had me bustin a gut.

[@LFNZE]

You know that Dune (which was released in the 60s as a book series) is the inspiration for Star Wars and most of the rest of scifi stories? And it was the inspiration for some fantasy works too like Game of Thrones (with the houses and politics)

[@K.alexsadler]

1:14:18 probably not for the channel, but y’all should check out Lea Seydoux in ‘The Beast’ out now in theaters

[@pacio49]

"Auntie Freeze".

[@dansmart3182]

His name isn't baby it is Timothée Chalamet.

[@firefly24601]

Or as Flo says, "Chalamalabingbong"

[@th01m3nn]

1:05:10 The emperor means that the brain is meant to rule, instead of the hart

[@Royal_Chief_Architect]

Paul is not Jon, But he is show Dany..

[@natzbarney4504]

I like your reactions so much!! And you get the whole point of the story a lot better than others.

[@deanthemachine8879]

54:03 that is a real baby; it isn’t a cgi/deepfake monstrosity

[@jessaandalexwatch]

It is a real baby, but then they digitally alter its facial expression. That’s the moment it gets creepy

[@LordVolkov]

'This is like Star Wars...' × ♾ Watch Dune 84 (and the Jodorowsky's Dune documentary) to see how far some of these ideas have come. Lynch took a lot of the Jodorowsky pre-production for his version. Villenue pulled a lot from Dune 84, while trying to avoid many of the iconic lines of the 84 (which inadvertently means rewriting lines from the book into subpar reproduction) Wearing stillsuits in the fight with Feyd is from Lynch (Paul wears the clothes he intends to be coronated in for the book) The Harkonnens aren't gross weirdos (aside from the Baron) in the book, they are just cunning and cruel. Lynch made them gross, Villenue made then freaky-deaky alopecians (which completely removes the foreshadowing of Jessica's heritage because they all have red hair...) DV also uses the color palette of Lynch (dusty black stillsuits, Harkonnens in black, etc). The visual changes are mostly interesting except when they interfere with the plot 😅

[@bernbsy]

Sad when anything sci-fi gets compared to SW when it's not even sci-fi. I don't see how DV's Dune is similar visually to SW. DV used as much on location and practical effects as possible. SW is almost all CGI and it doesn't have a monopoly and didn't set the bar for huge, epic wide screen shots. They've been around since the start of film. Leni Riefenstahl, David Lean, Stanley Kubrick, Akira Kurosawa, etc. If SW is actually worthy but it's not. The first 3 films were memorable, the next three just plain mediocre, the recent Disney trilogy and TV series, pure childish drivel. I know people are full of crap when they start comparing everything to SW and Marvel.

[@LordVolkov]

"If he had at least had the conversation!" He does in the book. Paul tells Chani that Irulan will never share his bed or his heart. He is very clear and Chani is cool with it because she trusts Paul. This is just some forced drama to set up an arc for Messiah.

[@LordVolkov]

@@donny1960 It's so telegraphed it makes me sad. PT2 really makes me wonder if they think they can do Dune better than Herbert or are just trying to not do Lynch.

[@LordVolkov]

@@donny1960 I think that if DV had spent less time betraying the books with rewrites he could have still had a beautifully told story that didn't defile Herbert's writing. We didn't need 10 minutes of Paul learning to sandwalk after messiahsplaining to Chani what he read. He will know your ways as though born to them. We didn't need bald Harkonnens so the connection to Jessica (their shared red hair) comes out of nowhere. Denis isn't even a friend of Jamis. His treatment of Jamis' funeral entirely disregards the point of Jamis.

[@sVieira151]

DV made Chani a stand in for the overall theme behind the story, and emphasised it by making the Bene Gesserit brainwashing less effective and having there be (at least) two factions or beliefs within the Fremen. I think he felt that the tradeoff of making the BG slightly less effective in favour of making the overall theme less subtle for the same reason Frank wrote Messiah - some people didn't get it. I assume it was also because it wasn't guaranteed he'd get to make a third movie. So now that he does, I'm curious as to how Chani will factor into it since she is a very different character to book Chani at this point.

[@LordVolkov]

@@donny1960 That's all you've got? Great. Thanks for contributing nothing to the discussion. Go away.

[@LordVolkov]

@@sVieira151 Based on my theater experience, where everyone but me cheered when Paul sent the Fremen to slaughter the great houses, I don't think that message got through to most 😅 I would have loved for Chani to have a strong personality, but Paul's denier just doesn't fit. That and throwing away her heritage felt like a huge missed opportunity to develop her.

[@PuckeredMeatball]

1:04:35 Usul does not wait until the main course.

[@K.alexsadler]

Paul waits wayyyy too long to call off the fedaykin 43:02

[@williambranch4283]

Rabban is a bad boss. Stilgar is my favorite.

[@sliceofheaven3026]

But is she a demon just because she is different?

[@LordVolkov]

Christianity would seem to think so. A little girl who speaks with an adult voice, knows things she shouldn't, and has magic powers? She's possessed! ✝️

[@70briareos]

If you've read "Children Of Dune" you'd understand, LOL!

[@sliceofheaven3026]

@@70briareos People just shouldnt be judged a certain way just because they look different. A lot of so called normal people have done a lot of horrible things to people that have been seen as different.

[@draum8103]

Your reaction was great, sooo many funny comments! Lol I loved every time you were commenting on Jessica and her baby being creepy, they are, but she took that to become more badass and protect Paul. They are not necessarily 'good' but doing whatever it takes to make him the Kwisatz Haderach, which is why I like all of them as characters.

[@roberttherrien352]

Its Alia and Duncan in the next one.

[@jessaandalexwatch]

I have heard about this plot and it sounds craaaazy. Can’t wait!

[@K.alexsadler]

I ate up all of the Giedi Prime, Garett Pugh/Rick Owens weirdo sh**. Not enough of my harpy cannibal girlies imo

[@piotrjeske4599]

Well there is still Feydahs daughter. And she will be same age as Chanis children.

[@wackyvorlon]

Which are infinitely more creepy than Alia.

[@PuckeredMeatball]

1:06:08 Lisan Al We Get it already...

[@firefly24601]

Honest Trailers released their Dune 2 trailer a couple days ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qXLSl4CQlL-amNUsi=6L1-PzT31FHlf7to

[@deanthemachine8879]

52:14 her *LOOK* here. 3rd trimester Jessica is in her final Pokemon evolution form, Chani. You will not survive