GET UP | "If Josh Allen doesn't win MVP: It's cheating" - Dan Orlovsky on MVP race that's not over

[@mikepannucio2315]

How many record has josh broke this year 3 or 4 already

[@wordsofourtestimony6390]

3 interceptions in crazy. I would like to know how many quarters each quarterback has not played this year. Both qbs are ballin tbh

[@benbaker4198]

Lamar has 12 turnovers what they aren't telling you is that's he's fumbled 9 more times then allen this year

[@patrickfintak2048]

Do people just hate Josh Allen because he’s a white heterosexual farmer?? I don’t understand how Lamar is even in consideration?? Josh Allen has always had better stats than he has the past 3-4 years! But now they want to base it all of stats??!! Never before have they ever based it off stats, but now that Josh Allen sits in the 4th quarter of games and doesn’t pad his stats, now they want to base it on stats! F-ing crazy 🤪

[@nobonesaboutit7639]

Josh is at minus 900. This shit is over

[@Wilde716]

Allen has had better stats than the MVP multiple times in the past and lost not to mention how many times were the Bills so far in the lead that Allen didn't play a whole quarter this year?

[@Nobody-c6g]

By multiple seasons, you mean every single other year? Yes. Lamar’s high was what? 3,300 before this year 😂

[@giovannilong5206]

Josh Allen has good stats. Lamar is making history not the same sir.

[@karisa1022]

​@@giovannilong5206 history with 5 losses

[@AD-df5tm]

Lamar has played 893 snaps (98% of his teams) and Allen has played 848 (95% of his teams). So Lamar has essentially played nearly a full game more than Allen (teams avg about 60 snaps a game) when you look at it.

[@Stockhandle123]

@@giovannilong5206allen is beating lamar in all the advanced stats this year. Epa, success rate, total qbr, points above average etc all favor josh by alot. Only dumb dumb stats favor lamar.

[@NewYorkNYKer]

LJ is not Allen.. He won’t carry the team with no names and he can’t play against certain teams or environment or Playoff or division opponents.. He is only great when he wants stats not W. Even Rams game if there were 1 more minutes or 1 extra time out, Allen would win the game for Bills.. He is a different creature.

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

Allen can do everything Lamar does. Lamar can't do everything Josh does. The reason is. To be a SB Quarterback. Being an elite pocket passer still matters. Lamar has improved but he's still limited compared to Pat and Josh.

[@rasharbanks1392]

Ummmm actually LJ has done that already.. he’s the only QB in history to win MVP without a 1,000 yrd WR or RB

[@vincente4570]

Dude, Lamar carried that cheap ungrateful franchise since day one and he didn’t have no star players helping him at all. So in reality, this is Josh’s first season doing it this way paaaaaaaaaaaa😮

[@rasharbanks1392]

How’s he limited??

[@rasharbanks1392]

Y’all just be talking outside of y’all heads when it comes to Lamar.. looking for every reason to discredit him

[@davidbuckley46]

Allen had better numbers last year yet Lamar won it cuz they had one seed Lamar got 5 losses two to bad teams n now everyone wants a little more yards n 2 less ints to why are we changing the criteria this year? Allen’s got a group of journeymen n a couple draft picks at WR Lamar got Henry Flowers n Andrews as he got heslthy Allen Is clear MVP

[@sterrell1892]

Allen also lead the league in turnovers. Lamar didn't pad his stats like Josh, Gus Edward's had 13 tds. Cook had all those yards and if he didn't score outside the 5yrd line , Josh was stealing it. Josh is mvp with benching against Baltimore, 9-30 against Houston and got credit for loosing to the Rams. Just say yall want the white guy to win.

[@benbaker4198]

Lamar also has 9 fumbles

[@AD-df5tm]

If you take lamar off the ravens they are probably still a playoff team. If you take allen off the bills im legitimately not sure they even win 4 games. Like people seem to forget that everyone thought the bills would suck this year because they had nobody. Well they still have nobody but they are 11 wins because Allen is playing out of his mind.

[@Scopesdoped]

Allen for mvp. It's over.

[@craiglafay]

Barkley will not break Dickersons record just like no one has broken the real record held by Simpson. 2003 in 14 games. Also, 3 ints is amazing. What about turnovers. 7 for Allen and 7 for Jackson.

[@patrickfintak2048]

Unless Josh Allen completely poops the bed it is his award! If you are going to give it to Lamar because he finally has a good season stats wise, even though Josh Allen has always had better stats the past 3 or 4 years, it’s a joke! You can’t just use stats this year when you never used stats in past years! How is this even a discussion? You can’t lose to the Raiders and Browns and win the MVP because you had 5 touchdowns against a team trying to tank and playing Tim Fu^^ing Boyle! Josh Allen is breaking records against the best teams in the NFL! With no Derek Henry and Zay Flowers!!

[@mikepannucio2315]

McDermott has never won even though he took a team that wasnt in the playoofs for 17 years and no one thought bills would be here its got to be him

[@Joe-u9l]

If Lamar wins MVP then it's not only a quarterback award it's a black quarterback award. No one in the league is even close to Allen relative to his team's success. Barkley should be runner up but does he beat Dickerson record in 16 games, not likely. Lamar didn't deserve it last year either.

[@Scopesdoped]

Lamar is also leading in the stat of most Ls(among those in the conversation) but still for some dumb reason in the conversations.

[@HockeyDudeJames2]

If Allen doesn't win the mvp this year it will never happen for him. Give them co mvps at this point. If the Ravens win out.Like manning and mcnair back in the day. Lamar isnt leading in passing yards or tds or completion Percentage. Burrow is. Just saying. I believe Allen has a slightly better QBR than Lamar as well.

[@vincente4570]

They could do co MVPs if they wanted

[@NewYorkNYKer]

Not valid.. Allen will have 14 wins in this roster and stats contribute to win is by far the best. Baltimore had the best record last year, addition of Henry and expectation was very high but 10-12 wins?? Bills was picked 3rd in division this year.. end of story!!

[@charlesjohnson536]

BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE LAMAR JACKSON SHOULD BE THE NFL MVP FAVORITE .. BUT THE 'EXPERTS' WANT TO GIVE OUT A LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD THIS SEASON ..

[@benbaker4198]

Lol lamar has 7 more turnovers then allen though also Allen is doing what he's doing with less

[@AD-df5tm]

Allen is on pace for 4000+ yds passing, 500+ yards rushing, like 40+ Tds and fewer turnovers than Lamar while throwing to guys like Mack Hollins and Ty Johnson. 😂😂. If he isnt the most valuable player in the NFL this year, they should just stop giving out the award. Because without Allen the bills are a .500 team AT BEST.