HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 2x2 "Rhaenyra the Cruel" Reaction & Spoiler Discussion! | Game of Thrones

[@Superman-vd6yo]

It’s also worth pointing out that Aegon is grieving. That final scene with him sobbing and Alicent walking away showed everything about why they’re so fucked up.

[@havok6280]

She went into the room to manipulate him. She left because she realized it wasn't the time.

[@hali_55]

@@havok6280exactly

[@hokagedlo6133]

No wonder he turned out the way he is, it's not a easy thing to grow up without love ​@@havok6280

[@tombstone9976]

​@@havok6280So instead of trying to comfort him she went to comfort herself 😂

[@universalobsession9484]

@@tombstone9976why tf should she comfort him. He killed innocent people because of his grief. aegon needs to go

[@havok6280]

Daemon said "a son for a son" to Rhaenys. She probably recalled what he said and knew what he did. That's why they exchanged the look.

[@Iamsome61]

He specifically referenced “Vhagar and his rider” when he said that.

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

@@Iamsome61 Rheanys saw the lack of empathy on Daemon's face and used common sense. Just like Rheanyra did at the end of the scene

[@havok6280]

​@@Iamsome61that's called "plausible deniability". He shows zero remorse.

[@ameliacraiig4193]

@@rexibhazoboa7097 Yep. He's like those people irl today who have picked a side & thus perceives 'the other' side as sub-human enemies... even the children.

[@AstaraBrightwing]

@@ameliacraiig4193 Like everyone in the comments section.

[@anais6654]

The fight between Rhaenyra and Daemon was soooo good. Such great chemistry

[@lildjay480]

Everyone in this episode was acting their butts off imo

[@yogeshrajoriya3092]

It felt so real

[@psychedelicpegasus7587]

As Daemon got up from the table his movements reminded me of Caraxes, our noodle boi, a bit.

[@anais6654]

@@psychedelicpegasus7587Emma move like a dragon during the entire episode too

[@manvirshergill1739]

I love the emphasis they put on the smallfolk... it's so great to watch. I also love how they are giving Hugh Hammer a backstory.

[@maleala2048]

“There is no power but what the people allow you to take”

[@SN000T]

I also thought of this too! This episode was just🔥💯

[@user-op6kt8pg9y]

That's because the whole point of the dance of the dragons is to show that when rich people start wars over petty arguments and power plays it's always the normal people affected most by it, if they didn't put emphasis on the small folk the entire point of the dance would be lost

[@jay-7379]

It’s also foreshadowing what Aemons temper will cause the smallfolk. Idk if you’ve read the books so I won’t spoil anything but let’s just say we’ll be seeing his wrath in the future.

[@Regenmacher175]

That aspect of the story will also become much more important later. How poor people are treated by rich nobility has an impact on how things develop.

[@TamiChin-yl7oh]

The scene with Alicent & Helena when she looked up and saw the flowers dust falling is foreshadowing to the ashes falling from the battle of dragons. It’s also the same with Rhaenyra when she was playing with her sons.

[@VeritasOphanious]

What does it say about rhaenyra?

[@TamiChin-yl7oh]

@@VeritasOphanious not sure yet but since episode 1 her frame work has been shown in a light airy way. When she was at the beach side on the rocks at the beginning of episode 1 & the camera did a close up you could see carefully one side of her face had a dark shadow & one side was light. Am thinking it’s referencing what’s about come.

[@SE-gs6gd]

Yes. I’m surprised no one else mentioned that

[@TamiChin-yl7oh]

@@SE-gs6gd yes HOD/GOT producers & writers are very precise the way they present things on scene and are very detailed on the small details. Majority of the time the surroundings are more telling than the actions/words them self.

[@harshahir3176]

And also I think she gave a dragon toy to aegon and he put it down maybe it's just a coincidence but maybe it's foreshadowing

[@MrFredstt]

Man I feel like the scene of Aegon weeping at the end all alone adds so much more complexity to his character. Despite his bravado from earlier that scene shows us many things about him. First, is that it was just a mask and he is acting almost entirely out of grief and anger currently. Also, it probably shows a complete breakdown at the realization he is again rejected by his father as he was all his life and now also rejected by Otto. I gotta say too that some of the blame lies with Otto. Aegon never wanted the crown in the first place and Otto did all he could to make it happen but also he never stepped in and filled the void Viserys left and taught Aegon himself. Lastly, Daeron fans, we finally got our mention. Let's hope they do our boy justice. Daeron is hands down the best Green character

[@nont18411]

He got too much responsibilities thrown at him at such a young age. Anyone who didn’t have such a strong character like Jon would break.

[@hokagedlo6133]

Aegon II is the best green character

[@MrFredstt]

@@hokagedlo6133 Fair enough not gonna argue about which character you like more. Personally I liked Daeron the most bc I like the blue and copper color of his dragon and he was much nicer compared to his brothers. I'm assuming you like Aegon's internal struggle and dragon? If not what is it that draws you to him?

[@hokagedlo6133]

@MrFredstt you nailed it actually right on the money. Aegon ii is a very layered character and very entertaining he's despicable, but I love him on screen. He's a lot like Daemons for the greens in the way he operates

[@MrFredstt]

@@hokagedlo6133 Yeah I agree he's very interesting to watch. I'm always saddened when I reactors boil him down to just Joffrey 2.0. I'm hoping the show does his dragon justice

[@Blinkptx]

The acting in this episode was incredible. One of the best episodes of this show for sure. The action scenes in these shows are good, but it's the conversations and political drama that make them great.

[@mamaseesa3122]

Even the action scene with the twins was perfectly done. Taking off the helmet so even we don't know who's who, and the heartbreaking dialogue...I bawled.

[@Blinkptx]

​@mamaseesa3122 Oh absolutely! They did an incredible job with that scene.

[@RoyKoopaling]

I think this is one of the emptiest episodes in the whole universe, but I agree about the acting. But the twins did a fantastic job. They really brought those characters to life and Aegon’s actor. He’s doing a good job.

[@aegnor2102]

​@@RoyKoopaling in what is it empty ? It's far from that. There are character development for many characters. Criston Cole is hand, Otto fired, Twins dead during a direct assassination attempt on Rhaenyra, Rhaenyra and Daemon in conflict with him leaving and her realising his true nature, the dilema of Baela about her father, the trauma oh Helaena, Aegon losing his mind, the reveal of the existence of Daeron...

[@Blinkptx]

@RoyKoopaling 🙄

[@DaneofHalves]

Everyone's reaction to the fight is yelling Rhaenyra "Get out!" Do you not have eyes? She is trapped. If she tries to run to the door she will give the assassin a clear path to run her through. Pay attention to the rooms geography. The brother made sure there was only one exit out and he was blocking it.

[@ideozublake8036]

exactly. finally someone who was paying attention. 😅

[@BabaBoee5198]

Yea, the only reason rhanyra doesn’t run is because then Erryk can just run and kill her.

[@Ploopbloopz]

​@@BabaBoee5198 Arryk, Erryk is the one sworn to her

[@LaCheeserie]

@@Ploopbloopz 😂

[@elcapitan8769]

Then how the maid went out ? To call the other guard

[@padaoamandacha8036]

They might explain more in the next episode about Mysaria seeing Arryk and she going back to warn the guards. As you can see, Erryk came rushing in as if someone told him his brother is here to kill the Queen. I think Mysaria did warn the guards.

[@ideozublake8036]

she definitely did!

[@SE-gs6gd]

I think she did!

[@scotthewitt258]

She clearly did. That is why she stopped her escort. She thought it was Erryk for a second, but remembered he had a twin. I'm 90% that she met both in season one when they were searching for Aegon so he could steal the throne.

[@Sharonmplus]

​@@scotthewitt258yeah, she remembers. pretty sure in the last episode she said to Erryk something like "last time there were two of you" when she was found.

[@Bayard1503]

Yes, it will be clear when Rhaenyra will hire her

[@s_.777]

Otto stole this episode, his reaction to everything Aegon said was priceless.

[@anikethchakraborty3238]

he always does

[@LucerysOwner]

They finally mentioned my boy Daeron 😭😭

[@tiasahossain9292]

I haven't read the books..can you tell me who he is?? And is he good ??

[@user-fq7el1mt5j]

@@tiasahossain9292Alicent’s youngest son

[@vivekkumar-jb1tb]

@@tiasahossain9292 mvp for the greens

[@ILoveManCity.]

​@@tiasahossain9292 he is like the one who should have got the throne in the case the greens were good.

[@LucerysOwner]

@@tiasahossain9292 He's by far the most likeable of the Greens (since Helaena has no real characterisation) and is at least relatively competent. But he's still just a kid, he's like 15 when the war starts with no combat experience, so no, he's not some military genius or anything like Robb, but he does pretty well for the position he's in. After Aemond's death - Daeron was the real deal for Rhaenyra

[@Redfield982]

Tom Glynn Carney and Rhys Ivans as Aegon and Otto did such an incredible job

[@scotthewitt258]

The acting is right up there this season with "The Boys" season four. Anthony Starr is a standout this season. BUT, it's hard to say one person on "House" has been better than the others. So many great, intense performances.

[@Nikolas5842]

@@scotthewitt258 true

[@cadenjacobs8837]

I think the scene of Aegon crying is also telling of the Hightower family dynamic. Just before we see Alicent try to confide in her father about her troubles and he says, "I do not wish to hear it". When Aegon is in distress, Alicent doesn't comfort him because she herself was never comforted by her father. Even in other scenes from season 1, Alicent has never comforted her sons. Generational trauma. In conclusion this family is horrible

[@KaranRandhawa_YYC]

Everybody’s acting in this episode was 🔥.

[@datguy3581]

Mysaria seemed to be calling to one of the guards when she was leaving. She may have been the one to alert Ser Erryk to his brothers presence.

[@BlushGush]

She def was. That’s absolutely what happened and for that she repaid rhaenyra’s graciousness in letting her go

[@KaranRandhawa_YYC]

Rhaenys and Daemon are cousins and know each other inside out. And Daemon mentioned “A son for a son” to Rhaenys last episode so she knew what he wanted.

[@user-dx2dm8oq8g]

Exactly this. Even if he didn't say it, she would still have suspected him. Pretty much everyone knew he killed his first wife, but no one could do anything about it. Viserys always tried to keep him away because he knows he can't take orders and he will cause a mess if he gets involved in important business.

[@kagenohikari8]

Agree, they forgot about the last episode where Daemon told Rhaenys the Ep1 title. So Rhaenys immediately knows what's up and thinks Daemon got his "son for a son".

[@ladyhotep5189]

​@@kagenohikari8so many reactors seem to forget the last episode they watch. I'm constantly screaming at the TV. 8 guess because they watch so many shows. 🤷‍♀️

[@Kiwi-gn8tf]

They are uncle and niece

[@KaranRandhawa_YYC]

@@Kiwi-gn8tf Rhaenys is a cousin to Daemon.

[@gazlator]

1:10 Surely there's some symbolism in the way the Aegon smashes the model of the city which his father had devoted so much time and effort in building up.

[@padaoamandacha8036]

The twins fight scene made me cry. They were both good men.

[@derps0n839]

I wonder which one fell on his sword. He said forgive me. It could have been either one because Arryk didn't want to do it. He came in and told Rhaenyra he had no choice.

[@carleton4199]

@@derps0n839 I think it was Erryk. If I'm recalling correctly, Erryk was the one with the cut on his leg. Arryk dug his fingers into that wound which sent Erryk crawling for his sword. When Arryk came at him he got stabbed and killed. So, it was Erryk who fell on his sword.

[@jjfam777]

​​@@carleton4199I think that means it was Arryk that fell on his sword. Erryk has the slice to his leg, went for the sword and came lunging back and got stabbed. Areyk, gripped with the guilt of killing his brother and the fact that he must have truly believed in what Viserys said fell on his sword. There was also clearly no way out for him anyway. He would have been put to death regardless. I think it would have been more layerd if it was Erryk tho. Cuz if it was Erryk that survived there would be no way for anyone to actually verify which was which. He would know that no one would trust him near the queen so he fell on his sword to make sure there were no doubts to her safety.

[@zizojaezekeom3565]

Nah the one that betrayed the queen wasn't

[@UltimaTheSeraph]

​@@carleton4199the actors confirmed that it was Arryk that died and Erryk who took his own life...

[@Chromium457]

It's hilarious how much more upset Otto is about the rat catchers being killed than his own great-grandson.

[@user-fq7el1mt5j]

He is looking at it in a strategic standpoint

[@Chromium457]

@@user-fq7el1mt5j Losing the heir to the throne is pretty bad strategically. Killing 30 rat catchers in a population of 500,000 - not so much.

[@jjfam777]

​@@Chromium457Everything is optics. It's bad that the heir has been killed, but Aegon was already on shaky ground. Him taking the throne the day after Viserys publicly strengthened Rhenaera's claim to the throne, Rhaenys breaking out of the dragon pits. Like Otto said, he was already seen as weak. The only thing that would have strengthened his image is to paint the other heir (Rhanaera) as a monster. Unite the people, and in turn the noble houses, against a common enemy. It would have worked if he didn't then turn around and murder all the ratcatchers who were all commonfolk. Especially without publicly giving a reason. To the outsider it just looks like bloodlust for his murdered son. It paints him as the same type of monster he claims Rhanaera to be seeing as she also lost her son.

[@jjfam777]

And I think Otto was in that moment, finally grieving his grandson. He's a very measured man and he knows that saying those things to Aegon would likely have him removed from his position but grief had blinded him.

[@Noone91875]

Bro you didn't understand what he was trying to do. He tries to win over small folk by jahaerys funeral and taking sympathy of smallfolks. But aegon undid it after killing innocent ratcatchers.

[@nikitasingh0412]

Aegon is turning out to be the most interesting character this season

[@queenxx1690]

Rhaenyra would be too if she was not whitewashed

[@Regenmacher175]

@@queenxx1690 I mean, the Dance hasn't even properly started yet...

[@ladyhotep5189]

​@@Regenmacher175there only 8 episodes this season they need to speed it up a smidgen. 😂😂😂

[@Regenmacher175]

@@ladyhotep5189 We'll get some battle sequences but the Dance spans 2 years. We got at least 2 more seasons. In any case, they are allowed to interpret the characters however they want so long as I consider it to be interesting storytelling.

[@vbb2076]

@@queenxx1690 rhaenyra was great in this episode i think, i personally thought she felt more alive and real. Her, Aegon and Otto were the standout imo

[@merykhan97]

I love how they highlighted the kind of mother Alicent truly is. Aegon needed her twice in this episode alone and both times she turned her back on him. As for Criston, I'm done with that MF. He was on duty that night. Ser Arryk was with the king and crispy cleared the hallways for privacy. It was 10000% his fault. It was refreshing seeing Otto angry over the loss of innocents and i appreciate his reality check to Aegon. No one in their right mind would believe Viserys chose him as heir.

[@VVoude]

What a episode!!! Never thought i would support Otto for a moment. Daeron & Moondancer mentioned.

[@k4polo]

Nothing wrong with that. Otto is a jerk but at least he had some kind of dignity and was not crazy. Aegon however.

[@mst3KGf]

@@k4polo It's also quite clear that for all his scheming, Otto genuinely is thinking of the good of the realm and desperately is trying to prevent as much carnage as he can. And now he knows all too well how utterly unworthy Aegon is of the throne. It's telling how he's going to join up with Daeron, who is by far the nicest and most responsible of the brothers.

[@MrFredstt]

Otto was always severely misunderstood and hated. Dude was extremely competent and ambitious yes but no more than Corlys or anyone else. He even suggests naming Rhaenyra in good faith and only changes his tune once she too rejects his counsel (kingsguard scene in particular) and then when Viserys has a son, yes there's some ambition at play, Otto views it as historically the son inherits over the daughter. He's a man of the time in that regard and plays by the rules of succession as pretty much every Lord does

[@MrFredstt]

@@k4polo Aegon's issue is that he had the right idea with appealing to the smallfolk but grief and anger coupled with never having been taught to rule comes into play and his need for getting the killer is greater than any grand political strategy

[@noicezzzzzzzzzzzzx4081]

​@@mst3KGfWho's Daeron? And where was he mentioned in this Episode?

[@musiclover9518]

44:58 Misaria is definitely the one who alerted Erryk so he could run towards Rhaenyra's chamber and intervene Arryk on time. Otherwise, Erryk didn't have any reason to barge in suddenly and shout "brother" before even seeing him. I am sure this topic will be addressed in the coming episode.

[@adamlgiroux]

What an incredible performance by Rhys Ifans as Otto this episode. His scene with Aegon was pure gold.

[@jackharrington697]

This show is so good and Rhaenyra and Daemon was soooo good. Such great chemistry

[@xxwilxx1975]

Honestly during this episode I felt bad for Aegon he loved his son he needed someone to mourn with and even his mother didn't comfort him. The Hightowers made him what he is.

[@havok6280]

His father is equally responsible. He spent years wanting a son. He sacrificed Aemma because he wanted one so badly. When he finally had one, he neglected him. It was Viserys's job to teach his son to be a man. Much like Robert was responsible for Joffrey. Conversely Ned was responsible for Robb and Jon.

[@xxwilxx1975]

@havok6280 agreed. He didn't even want the throne. Not that he hasn't done anything wrong. Vaserys planted the seeds for a Dance of Dragons.

[@user-dx2dm8oq8g]

@@havok6280 I think that the mistake he made was marrying alicent that was too messy, even if he was a better father she would still whisper bs in their ear. Rhaenyra also needed to make an effort to get closer to her siblings to avoid division once their dad died. Those kids didn't get love from any of their parents. Alicent is cold while Viserys was sick I think ever since they were born.

[@zizojaezekeom3565]

​@@havok6280i mean no one thought rhaenyra to be good and she's a good person in general so it's no excuse

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

@@zizojaezekeom3565 who doesn't think Rheanyra is good? And how is she a good person in general?

[@Reddy315]

The dynamics of parent-child bond between Otto and Alicent is reflected onto Alicent and her own children: Aegon, Haelena, and Aemond. Alicent never received compassion, warmth, affection, and sympathy from her dad; hence, she is unable to offer such actions and emotions toward her own children. She tries to confess her sins to Otto but he doesn't have the time for Alicent, his own daughter. For Otto, everything is about practical usage and rationality, no emotion and no feelings. As such, Alicent tries to justify her actions to Haelena, unable to fathom her daughter's state mind slowly descending into psychotic breakdown.

[@jonathanblaze1648]

Rhaenyra and Daemon fight was the best scene. Awesome!

[@VikashTiwari-s6c]

Did you not notice how Halaena had already sewed and readied the funeral cloak of her Son before he died? She knew it was coming! And she knows a lot!

[@Persephone_Personified]

When Helena looks up during the funeral she looks to the sky with the grain falling... the look in her eyes shows she’s seeing more than the mourners. The grain looks like when the ash falls in the final episode of GOT when Dany is full of grief and burns the city. Perhaps it’s a future she has seen now.

[@debjitpaul8580]

That scene between Otto and Aegon was a treat to the eyes. Acting, script, cinematography.... everything was perfect!

[@spookyspooks33]

people need to see how crazy it is that y’all filmed, edited & posted this, this early. wow. i love the dedication ❤️

[@randallwilliamson3838]

I would never regret removing Otto but giving it to Cole is the major mistake.

[@shockwave1126]

Should have been Aemond. Wondering if Aemond will resent this decision.

[@Nikolas5842]

@@shockwave1126 No, because he is buds with Cole.

[@Nikolas5842]

Larys would be way better, but also he is gonna be the real hand pulling the strings now that Otto is gone. Just not the official.

[@Bayard1503]

Well, that's because you don't get that Otto has been planning a lot... I mean he's been scheming to put Aegon on the throne for years, he has thought things through. He's been obviously trying to gather armies, the Lannisters are already moving towards the capital. In the meanwhile the Vale hasn't moved a finger to help Rhaenyra, the North is sending only 2000 men... Otto had been winning the war so far

[@CaptainPikeachu]

it's funny a big deal is made to call Rhaenyra a kinslayer but we just rolled right past Aemond being a kinslayer first and no one really being upset about that, and it is even funnier that Daeron is just now name dropped LOL

[@jjfam777]

Thissss!! It is the nature of the deaths that skews the favour towards The Greens tho. Lucerys, while sent as an emissary, was killed in "open battle". Jaehaerys however was a toddler beheaded in his room while he slept. Both are bad but one is definitely worse than the other.

[@s1b3r11]

Also one was known by everybody in the realm to be a bastard, while the other was a legimate targaryen.

[@BabaBoee5198]

Yea.. I don’t see Rhænyra collecting sympathy and support from the other realms when her son was murdered.

[@ironfreddy3192]

@@jjfam777 Killing an emissary is already bad in itself. Even worse when that emissary is of royal blood and your kin. But it's convenient that they just don't care about that stuff. Who witnessed the battle? You had Aemond in a lord's court trying to attack Luke. It is not realistic that people would not talk about that.

[@Ploopbloopz]

​@@s1b3r11 People who knew Luce believed he was a bastard, the common people wouldn't know that, it's not like with Joffrey where letters were sent around the kingdom talking about it

[@user_outtacomission]

15:06 ha purity, fidelity he says. where were you lord commander?

[@teitoklein8207]

f'cking alicent with his purity and fidelity

[@UltimaTheSeraph]

I honestly hate Criston more than Joffrey, especially for what he did to the twins, both good knights.

[@BabaBoee5198]

@@UltimaTheSeraph bro is the first character to be not wanted to have character development

[@aihaven345]

@@UltimaTheSeraph this shows typical black cell mentality, daemon had the child killed lol and hate criston more

[@LauraGS564]

Achara calling Otto cold hearted then proceeding to say 'nowhere, he is dead' when Aegon talked about Jaehaerys being heir to the throne is insane. Wow lol

[@AkronRain69]

That Mysaria and Rhanerya scene was done so well!!!!!! Great writing, great direction. Bravo! 🙌

[@jp.iglesias1]

also criston is the literal definition of failing up. Kills joffrey lonmouth, gets promoted to the queen's sworn protector, kills lord beesbury gets promoted to lord commander, the prince is murdered while him having sex with the queen, gets promoted to hand of the king.

[@needfood3052]

I love how both Rhaenyra and Ageon were told they weren't meant to rule. ☠️

[@SimonBauer]

The blocking and camera work in this episode was a 10/10

[@KevinHwoarang]

The twin fight really f*cked me up. Eryk falling on his sword because he probably couldn't live with himself and obviously feeling badly wounded.

[@TheMiddlingGamer]

The "bad" twin would've definitely killed Rhaenyra if the "good" twin hadn't shown up. The whole reason why the "good" twin showed up was because of Mhysaria's warning. If Mhysaria hadn't been there in that exact place, at that exact time, Rhaenyra would be kebab.

[@Ashley_e]

The acting🎉🎉🎉🎉 Tom (aegon) was a standout!!!! incredible. Matt/emma as always

[@nicoleparchment2167]

Rhaenys’ shot you were talking about was to show her pin and the power she now holds as an equal to Daemon. She is now Rhaenyras hand.

[@javelldunn3379]

House of the Dragon is the best show awesome

[@gailf1617]

That lone dragon will not eat Addam of Hull (the young man on the beach collecting crabs). They will meet again.

[@k4polo]

Good episode. I think Cole just sent one of the twins to death knowing it would fail. So mad that he took his anger out on someone.

[@havok6280]

He would have succeeded if not for the White Worm.

[@user-dx2dm8oq8g]

That twin was probably the most honorable of the bunch who would question Criston if he messed up again and if he found out he's sleeping with Alicent, it's over for Criston. If I was him I would have joined my twin and never looked back. Criston needed to do something "useful" to avoid people questioning his whereabouts that night. He threw him under the bus for his own survival. He became everything he didn't wanna be.

[@jacobmiller2663]

@@havok6280but did he, no, so Cristin still sent that twin to his death.

[@havok6280]

​@@jacobmiller2663read the comment. "Knowing he would fail."

[@jamelniles567]

Erikk did say he will give his blood for his queen An he certainly did ...a man of honor

[@sofiachill5415]

All the actor did their thing this episode, but I really have to admit watching Rhys Ifans (Otto) is such a pleasure!

[@nobodyexceptme7794]

Game of thrones/house of dragon ost is really underrated. The songs they craft for some of these scenes with violins and strings going crazy.

[@OceanHedgehog]

One of the great things about this show is that every movement and every camera angle/frame tells you something about the story. It doesn’t waste shots or moments of physical acting.

[@DezeraeJordan]

I’m mind boggled that there’s a character ABOVE Aegon, that I COMPLETELY DESPISE: Criston “Hypocritical Holier-Than-Thou” Cole 🤬

[@govinddas7876]

Otto doesnt wanna hear it when Alicent says she's sinned. Aegon doesnt comfort Haelaena. Alicent doesnt wanna comfort Aegon. None of the greens actually like each other. Not even a hug.

[@KendraMorgan-ob2fr]

No family love

[@chelscara]

Otto is right with what to do with Jahaerys but I also think it’s very pointed that Aegon still doesn’t even refer to his son in the past tense but Otto is already saying “loved” like he’s over the kid. He’s so cunning and it feels like it comes at the direct expense of his humanity

[@hali_55]

Aegon was fantastic this episode. Impulsive, but how else is he expected to be? His son just murdered and everyone around him is trying to manipulate the situation for political gain when all he wants is revenge. He reminded me a lot of Viserys in S1E2&3

[@islasullivan3463]

Yep and Otto himself told Aegon his son was worth more dead than alive, how his blood and their families grief was a win for them. Like I don’t care if he is more politically minded and smarter than everyone else that was a shitty thing to say and definitely not the right thing to say out loud. Someone should’ve slapped him or at least reminded him to hold his tongue.

[@hali_55]

@@islasullivan3463 exactly like I don’t expect aegon to act in his right mind and do what is right politically when his 4 year old was just beheaded in his crib 😭 otto not being able to see that is just further proof that he’s too cold & lacks the sensitivity necessary for the job. If he’d had it, he probably could’ve kept a better life on things.

[@islasullivan3463]

@hali the thing is he was sensitive before when he was Viserys hand but bc Aegon is his blood I think he overestimated his hold over him and was careless with his words.

[@hali_55]

@@islasullivan3463 I see that too

[@scotthewitt258]

Revenge and to grieve.

[@chwilhogyn]

The clifftop where Baela is shooting crossbows was filmed just 5 miles down the road from me they were filming in the area for 4 months!!

[@Leigonyt10]

Damon with his war crimes nothing new😂

[@meganmichaelleames1143]

Am I the only one who caught on to the fact that Otto mentioned another son named Daeron when speaking to Alicent? I have been waiting for this and some sort of reaction, but nobody has even flinched at the mention of Alicent's 3rd son.

[@gailf1617]

Rhaenyra couldn't "get out" during the twin-fight. There were two doors, one was locked and the twins were between Rhaenyra and the other door, swinging swords.

[@frnknstndrgqn]

"How was I supposed to know that there would be consequences for my actions?" Otto probably.

[@tabitha3706]

otto saying he doesnt want to hear alicent and then alicent walking away from aegon is so heartbreaking

[@Lito21_]

Anyone notice Rhaenyra was quick to shutdown her son keeping an eye on Kings Landing but didn’t give af about having Daemon’s daughter do it. Almost as if she sees her as expendable.

[@sean253]

Or, flipside, she just lost one son to this war and is terrified of sending another one to his death.

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

I don't think she sees the girls as expendable but just doesn't want to risk her golden boy Jace who is clearly impatient about getting action and doesn't want to risk him doing something reckless, she trusts bala because she believes she'll be responsible and won't be rash is how I read it .

[@zawa7497]

No flipside,isn't baela like her daughter too? ​@@sean253

[@tuxedomask4masc]

Yall know Jace is mourning too right? Yall think its the right choice to send him?

[@Freya1412]

No I wouldn't send Jace either. Imagine if Jace clocks Aemond? You think he would leave quietly? Rather send a dragon rider who isn't too emotional right now. Plus moon dancer and Baela are much more stealthy. Rhaenyra values Baela a lot.

[@Alex-bz8lj]

Viewers: Who is Daeron Targeryn Book Readers: The GOAT

[@manvirshergill1739]

He's definitely not the GOAT, he dies in a shitty way.

[@bloodydiamondz6777]

he died in tent how could be that goat

[@archmaester6594]

Quick reminder: Daeron killed more innocent people than Aegon and got taken out by a tent

[@Overvoid125]

Daemon child killer

[@juliandorzon]

@@archmaester6594 Hey stop spoiling things, these reactors dont know so shut up.

[@Elnont]

Alicent didn’t make Aegon king, *Otto* did. That’s the greater irony. Once again, Rhys Ifans steals every scene he’s in.

[@darkotheeverything3860]

Daemon being The Wild Card is what makes him one of the greatest asset to the Blacks

[@universalobsession9484]

Sir eryk death fucked me up. Man he was such a good character

[@amirhossein8559]

Alicent scene leaving Aegon showed how different Alicent and Rhaenyra motheing and also their past with their own parent is Rhaenyra goes and hugs his son and thats all he needs and here Alicent just leaves him letting Aegon to grieve on his own it does makes sense don't get me wrong but i wished Alicent would do the same

[@Brendissimo1]

I think the city guard knew exactly what he was in store for because he had tortured and hurt many people before. You saw the opening sequence in S1 when Daemon asserts the guard's authority over King's Landing. By confessing he avoided prolonged torture (which Larys looks disappointed not to have been able to perform) and gets a swift death by being smashed with a mace. Best possible fate for him once he was caught. And I think he knew that.

[@tonybankse]

This show has done so well with ramping up the tension in the quite moments until it boils over!

[@khuloodsirleem7416]

I've never seen Otto this stressed and angry. This is the first time in both seasons he's lost his temper 😂

[@mitchwall6002]

Daemon Targaryen is a bad father and Alicent Hightower is a bad mother

[@havok6280]

Rhaenrya is willing to risk her stepdaughter but not her son. There are few good parents in Westeros.

[@thatoneblackdude3333]

​@@havok6280her son is more reckless and eager to prove himself and avenge his bother bala is not filled with emotion and will more likely fallow instructions to the letter not that rhenyrea doesn't care about Bela.

[@havok6280]

​@@thatoneblackdude3333give one example of Jace being reckless? He is easily one of the most even tempered characters on this show.

[@BabaBoee5198]

⁠​⁠@@havok6280 Jace himself wanted to do the work. Therefore he has some emotional connection to that task. Baela didn’t ask for it so she prolly wouldnt want to escalate anything

[@awesimo4684]

@@havok6280 What do you mean not risk her son? She sent her sons off. One of them did in fact die. I just presume she chose Baela because Moondancer is a very fast and agile dragon. Therefore well suited for scouting. The name sounds fast.

[@Blu3Ric3]

I really do love this show, I might catch hate for this but I like it more than GOT. The connection between characters and the way it's filmed just feels so deep and engaging.

[@ashlinmunsamy4435]

The acting and dialogue in this episode were phenomenal.

[@Painsenpai_YT]

I love when it’s you two doing the reactions ❤❤❤❤❤

[@ircjesselee]

That was actually the final line delivered by The Joker in The Dark Knight. (Speaking to Batman) "Madness, as you know, is a lot like gravity. All it takes is a little push."

[@russelberaquit]

Rhaenyra and daemond talking fuck yesssss

[@paeng1521]

Hugh the smith is a Targaryen and plays a significant part in the war

[@Epicsandmore24]

Daemon made the call to kill Aemond Targaryen intially as per rhaenrya's request. It back fired through collateral damage and now she's not responsible ?

[@johnwalkeristhatdude3018]

The greens F’d around and found out

[@Nina-xo555]

This episode was so good

[@DGTHO]

She had that eye widen moment when she looked at him and he had his usual chill face.

[@beselbic]

Alicent should have consoled Aegon when was bawling his eyes out about the loss of his son. That was heartbreaking to see in so many ways. She never shows him any real motherly affection. Put all the politics and all the other BS aside and hug your son! Compare that scene with the one between Rhaenyra and Jacaerys last episode, and that pretty much sums up the types of mothers they are in a nutshell. Viserys and Alicent were negligent in showing much paternal love for Aegon. That's one of the key reasons why he turned out the way he did. They just let him run wild doing anything he wanted without providing him a loving foundation. He might have made a decent ruler if they had-or better yet a decent person.

[@mamaseesa3122]

Honestly, Rhaenera was all of us team black people this ep. Matt Smith is such a great guy and a good actor that we want to love Daemon, but he makes it so dang hard lol! I had a feeling this would be his position. He and Aemond are the same, they neither one intended the results of their actions to happen, but once it did, they both just rolled with it and their attitude was 'oh well, can't change it now'.

[@islasullivan3463]

The thing is B&C asked him what if we can’t find Aemond and while we don’t hear his exact response they both go on later about it needing to be a son, so Daemon did tell them if you can’t find Aemond then it needs to be a son for a son, so any son of the greens royal family would be accepted (Which given the ones in kings landing would be Aemond, Aegon, or Jaehaerys). So yeah still 100% Daemons fault.

[@DeeDee97916]

So far the writers are staying true to the books. Which I appreciate. It's gonna get alot worse so hold on tight, it's gonna be a heck of a ride these next few seasons. 😬😬😬

[@fightronin3753]

Great reaction and breakdown!!!! The acting was really well done in this episode!!!!

[@karenvondermehden5054]

I like how everyone supports Daemon when he does terrible things , but the Greens are all monsters.

[@huntress647]

Daemon’s next step is to protect Harrenhal so that team black has an advantage and I think there will be some negotiations between Daemon and the remaining members of House Strong

[@layniebear1237]

loved the episode reaction and your after talks

[@KawaiiSoulB42]

Well Deamon is gonna conqueror Harrelhall. He flying in that direction. =D

[@vbb2076]

a lot of appreciation for the actors (as it should, amazing cast and ensemble) but the interiors???? dragonstone has never looked this cool im amazed

[@helifanodobezanozi7689]

The scene of the brother being recognized was TOTALLY NECESSARY GABBY! She told the guard nearby and HE alerted the other guards! Otherwise, yes, they wouldn't have let her in!

[@IsiahBradley]

My two favorite @CinePals reviewing one of my favorite shows!!! YAY!!! THANKS!!!!!

[@fabiozanabria5614]

I love this episode. I think this is the first time we really met the characters

[@darrellhenry9152]

Just want to let you know I appreciate the quick reactions. I know it must be a lot of work to edit and post it so quickly after the episode airs.

[@blueeyedcowboy8291]

The writing and acting between Rhaenyra and Daemon is pure modern day Shakespeare. That scene was phenomenal!

[@user_outtacomission]

13:49 I think aegon could also be guilt driven cos he didn't take her words seriously when she said she was scared about the rats. And then for him to learn that the ratcatcher did this. But aegon has always been ignorant anyway so could also be that.

[@seanperrydj]

Great comments my lady !!! You had me cracking up

[@gustavoolivieri6568]

The Dragon women are interesting, because they have the power of flying a war machine, but they are fragile as women, and not warriors on the ground. When the bad twin came into Rhaenyra's bedroom, I kinda wanted her to take a sword, but without her dragon she is just a (medieval) woman... However, the dragon women do have the power of their dragons. It's an interesting alternate reality that we never had in our world, but it's pretty realistic (matching to our world) at the same time.

[@methedmann]

The acting in this episode from everyone was spectacular

[@marwanali4878]

12:28. One thing that i agree with daemon here is that Rhaenyra is too much of a pacificst. Luke got murdered, Visenya was stillborn and Rhaenyra is not acting. She has no army save the people on dragonstone while Aemond is gathering people. I do agree that children should not be killed but she needs to start preparing for war