I found out while raising my strong willed son that “Do you know why we do it this way?” Worked so much better than “I told you to do it this way!”
@randiloreaux552 жыл бұрын
Cynthia’s book completely changed my life. As a homeschool mom, it was so instrumental in healing my relationships with my children and allowing me to recognize who I was and who my children were and how to make those work together. BEAUTIFUL 💕 Thank you so so much!
@puppetshack49312 жыл бұрын
Which book?
@diamond_p2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! 💙
@saints822 жыл бұрын
We'd really appreciate knowing which of Cynthia's book's changed your life Randi. Thanks :)
@melbakitchens6790 Жыл бұрын
Wished I could have talked to you when my strong willed child was young!
@christinalw192 жыл бұрын
Oh. When the government and media was telling me what we had to do regarding Covid, I became defiant. I’m glad to be strong-willed. I obey God’s Will, no other.
@granmabern5283 Жыл бұрын
When they used threats and fear instead of logic, I went looking for logic.😊
@dayers8715 Жыл бұрын
@@granmabern5283 whose logic?
@hopefulforhumanity56252 жыл бұрын
I raised a strong willed child and it was rough! I read ALL the books, but I never found them helpful. I think tone of voice and word phrasing are THEE MOST important tips I've ever heard. I don't remember reading that in those books.
@meilee7613 Жыл бұрын
I noticed Cynthia modeled that…
@kathleenshaffer31452 жыл бұрын
“You may be right.” Is my way of ending a discussion for another time.
@ramonac62372 жыл бұрын
I am raising 6 strong willed boys, married one, and I am one. 😂 I love this talk, I see the light, finally!!
@saramartinez1032 жыл бұрын
Lord have mercy
@bddollen73842 жыл бұрын
- LORD, THANK YOU FOR CHANGING THE FAILURES OF STRONG-WILLED PEOPLE - SO KIND…. !!!
@juliewestover9774 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤
@adrienewells44362 жыл бұрын
True immaturity shows in rebellious attitudes. Conflict resolution doesn’t mean placating swp.
@b.b.finsclara35892 жыл бұрын
I am strong willed.....and have had a life long of struggles......not ever reconizing-admitting how large my participation played with my-in my difficult life.....i wish i have had these TOOLS much earlier......my parents lacked communication skills and they passed on these deficiencies unto us......These SKILLS ought to TAUGHT AT SCHOOLS AT A YOUNG AGE......how many lives we would improve....how many conflicts lessened.....how much violence avoided!!! So much rencor, ressentment saved......SAD SO SAD few in the education and Police, Armed Forces, Intelligence sectors have missed these opportunities!!!!
@vigilantwatcher24082 жыл бұрын
I have a difficult coworker, who definitely qualifies as a SWP. I let myself get angry and reacted to her when she was being ridiculous toward me and I don’t want to lose my power with her the next time because I lost my cool and my negative reaction was my own fault. It did not make the situation better so next time, and I know there will be, I will pause, and I will definitely react differently. Thank you for sharing this! I do pray for her, but I’m going to pray about how to react the next time.
@monicadaniel94392 жыл бұрын
This was great. I usually flee confrontation, the Spirit is giving me new tools and I thank Him for adding this!
@shaquithas2 жыл бұрын
11-11-22 from Riverside California. I needed to here this. It's going to help me. I will need to listen to this ALOT, OVER & OVER. I need healing and deliverance. I want to be a blessing to others
@iamenough69582 жыл бұрын
Dr Joe Dispenza KZbin
@sharonjohnson29652 жыл бұрын
I read "The Way They Learn" by this brilliant woman. It helped me homeschool my son so effectively. Thank you. (That was many years ago)
@danielleelias685 Жыл бұрын
Yes I read that book also, it helped me so very much. Love that book.
@teresacahlik6887 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I had heard her on Focus on the Family, ordered the book so many years ago. It helped me understand my daughter’s learning style and me not have frequent meltdowns.
@teresacahlik6887 Жыл бұрын
@kettleroland2@ yes and having fun with grand children
@lindadevine97762 жыл бұрын
This lady was awesome just what I needed to hear n the delivery was great n she was soft spoken and funny
@Psalm_27.42 жыл бұрын
My first thought upon hearing Mrs. Tobias was, “A certain tone of voice can alienate a strong willed person??? Well, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me!!!!” (Hands on my hips!) However, maybe all she is saying is that SWPs have a very deep sense of human dignity, which I can appreciate. I truly believe that we should ALWAYS honor another person’s human dignity. In fact, I think we should be as protective of another’s dignity as we are of our own! Now, THAT one thing, right there-mutual honor-would resolve ALL, (so-called) race, class, and gender issues!!! 😊❤🥰
@vonfloryanzia1382 жыл бұрын
Yep
@anniemccoy30092 жыл бұрын
I would add age to race, class and gender
@suetucker92642 жыл бұрын
Or, is it a pride issue?
@Psalm_27.42 жыл бұрын
@@suetucker9264 I’ve wondered the same thing. Not sure.
@Psalm_27.42 жыл бұрын
@@anniemccoy3009 Yes, age belongs on the list! Thank you!
@JaneWaweru2 жыл бұрын
She said, "check your tone" and am like, "I can't even get myself to say a word at that point. My heart will be beating 1000 times more"
@samantaray2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lord for sending me this fantastic lecture. ❤
@edenelston76682 жыл бұрын
I'm an SWP and so are my kids. This was definitely helpful in making me aware of my own behaviors and in understanding those same behaviors in my children
@carmenabels12562 жыл бұрын
Same here and I just hope I can remember all of this.
@4evahis3432 жыл бұрын
I do feel at some point as Christians the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT should kick in.
@anjieismyname2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@tinathomas32882 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was looking for this comment
@charlottefreed38132 жыл бұрын
Amen
@carinacoetsee23342 жыл бұрын
Do you have a strong willed child? It's not easy. But I'm glad one part of the fruit is forgiveness.
@kianalauder2 жыл бұрын
@@Mel84943 😊 x😢la ixsi😢😮r😮
@christiangenger Жыл бұрын
“Why do I have to conform to you?” “You don’t. You can be miserable.” I love the relational tone and the encouragement rather than shutting down communication. The laughter in the crowd shows just how well this lesson connected, thank you very much Cynthia!!! ❤️ I just bought your book “A Woman of Strenth and Purpose”… I appreciate you!
@sadiqakhan47952 жыл бұрын
It's your tone that kept me following through with this very informative video to the end. Much blessings. Thank you.🌻
@Mushroom321- Жыл бұрын
Yes!!, no one in history have calmed down from hearing " calm down " amen !!
@Grace-bk4tq2 жыл бұрын
Assertive vs. Strong-willed A strong-willed person can have unjust or unethical demands. Assertive people are bold but respectful. They get things done while having strong principles and morals. It is a positive trait. It is not being bossy or aggressive just to get their own way whether it's right or wrong.
@johnpaulgarcia6906 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@4evahis3432 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. She nailed the qualities of an SWP. They really are go getters. This is very helpful information.
@debrasusan732 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!!! I'm a school bus driver, and I'm definitely going to use all these suggestions, with my students AND my coworkers!!! Haha! And I'm going to definitely tell that joke!
@miss_sunshine25 Жыл бұрын
If it hadn't been for focus on the family in the '80s I wouldn't have had any parenting skills at all. I never knew they had a KZbin channel. Pleasant surprise
@jeslovesjesus2 жыл бұрын
This was one of my favorite broadcast you guys have done!
@karllewis42582 жыл бұрын
WoW! youtube has been “reading my mail”. Nice prompt youtube … you listened to the Holy Spirit. I love “Poke us in the Family”. I listened to Focus on the Family on the radio for decades. I recorded the programs on cassette tapes to listen a second and third time. And gave them to others.
@edithbannerman4 Жыл бұрын
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
@carmelacox2460 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the message. Simply message but powerful! I haven't missed my baby milk..I have enjoyed the meat of God's Word❤
@SavannahMares2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful human being!! 🙏🏼🙌🏼☝🏼
@Brian-rs4ug2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Getting along with strong willed people is possible. Although it does require tact and wisdom when working with them. As for the strong willed person. If they are intuitive and have the ability to self reflect. They learn to adjust and change from the inside out. Some come to realize the world does not revolve around them.
@perfectionista4922 жыл бұрын
I agree. And oftentimes, these strong-willed people who seem to be proud of how vocal they are and how primed they are for leadership, are extremely soft and tender-hearted on the inside. They also often deal with loneliness and feeling misunderstood because many of them have the best hearts and want to help and connect with others, but because of their strong-willed nature, they are misunderstood for being bossy when they are trying to be helpful. It's very heartbreaking. I have this particular insight, because I have many strong-willed people as family members.
@candyalexander21962 жыл бұрын
Well said
@emilysnead72452 жыл бұрын
I would beg to differ on the perspective that strong-willed people believe the world revolves around them. I am one of those strong willed persons and I don't recall ever having that mindset. I am well aware that I am no more important than anyone else. Other people are extremely important to me, and I greatly respect the opinions and beliefs of others. A strong-willed (or stubborn) nature can be channeled into a determination to follow through and accomplish things that those without strong wills would more easily give up on. I believe a strong-willed person has a greater capacity for handling difficult things. A strong-willed person may be less likely to be swayed from their beliefs with more boldness to share their faith with others. On the flip side: strong-willed people tend to be bad at asking for help. And yes, we do indeed struggle to admit when we are wrong. The world needs strong-willed people as much as it needs people of any other character type.
@Brian-rs4ug2 жыл бұрын
@@emilysnead7245 I agree, strong willed children tend to be stubborn and refuse to give up on things they have strong convictions about. It sounds like you had some admirable core values planted into your heart early on in life. (In regards to caring for others and placing them others above yourself) You are ahead of those who had to learn this later on in life. Count your blessings and be grateful that you didn’t have to learn this through unnecessary hardship and trials.
@patrickmcmanus13602 жыл бұрын
You know, culturally in the West weaker personalities are valued at least on a moral level. They are looked at as more neutral and innert. I would suggest to you that that's a misleading appearance. People who aren't "strong willed" often have trouble standing up for what they believe in. If you read Hannah Arendt, she suggests that in fact the root of all evil are people who refuse to stand up for what they believe in. People who can be pushed from one side to the other easily. I think assuming the truth in her analysis, it's more valuable to learn from SWP and what they have to offer and to make that sacrifice to learn their language and communicate with them. "adjust and change" is something we should all be attempting. I think people sometimes are focuses on the surface irritation and fail to recognize the rivers of value that run deep under the surface. Maybe try the see the value in people instead of zeroing in on their irritating features. Sometimes it's actually worth meeting them where they're at.
@victoriaoshea4865 Жыл бұрын
Heard this about 6 months ago NEED TO LISTEN AGAIN
@sandra-799 Жыл бұрын
This is mind blowing! What an answer to prayer and fasting I Now I have knowledge and skills I am grateful beyond measure!
@beachgirl92342 жыл бұрын
Thank you with all my heart. Your personality sounds so much like mine. I needed to laugh and giggle and realize when I'm dealing with the swp's in my life, including my perceptions and how I want others to work with me. Your sarcasm is so sweet compared to some people's sarcasm I know. Your sarcasm is not pointed abusive but informative, funny and straight forward. 😄
@leahjagger1309 Жыл бұрын
As an SWP , raising them and having many in my family, thank you! I needed this years ago!
@leondrawalker7304 Жыл бұрын
Iam so grateful for this teaching and learning experience for growth Grace compassion in Jesus'Name
@uofa822 жыл бұрын
I AM the strong-willed person. And so is my only child, a daughter just like me. Help me, Jesus!🙏✝️🕊️❤️‼️
@RoseLynnnn2 жыл бұрын
I will pray for you! I am that strong willed person & I too have an only child, a son who is also strong willed! This has helped me so much just listening to this video! 🙏❤️
Exactly what I needed to listen to today .Thank you !
@Questingmind2 жыл бұрын
I struggle this was on a Christian podcast. Esp when you’re talking about the Holy Spirit. I’m SWP… and it’s been a lifelong fight to walk in humility, esteem others more than myself… try to live the 1 Corinth 13 way. The work has to be done in MY heart… not by others learning to deal with me. As a coping mechanism with other SWP children or people.. just brilliant! Very useful and insightful … and I will def try to apply it. But I wouldn’t expect to have to apply this to a mature Christian. Puzzled by ‘ the gift of sarcasrn? From a youth with a cutting tongue , I was told it’s the lowest form of wit, but as a growing Christian? It’s no ‘gift’… It’s a fruit of the flesh.
@patrickdavis70002 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree less...I don't think you are as swp as you think
@patrickdavis70002 жыл бұрын
Also...I bet the person who told you that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit has no wit at all.
@Esther27Yadah2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for wisdom, a laugh & hope given!
@nanyaonwuamaeze48622 жыл бұрын
This is a very sad/painful video for me. Ms. Tobias is very correct in her presentation but it is difficult when you are trying to live a Christian with a strong will spouse. Hopefully I will have the grace/patience to apply the wisdom principles that Ms. Tobias has shared. Thank you Focus On The Family. Well done
@TruthBeTold4ever-j1n2 жыл бұрын
Same 😢
@focusonthefamily2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, Nanya! We’re glad that you found this program helpful. If you ever need a listening ear, please don’t hesitate to call us at 1‐800‐232‐6459. God’s best to you & yours!
@bebamorales10002 жыл бұрын
Oh dear mine! I am so blessed to hear this message!!!Thank You!
@terrymunda57672 жыл бұрын
This is so needed right now
@doric.bermudez98852 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this broadcast. It's actually blessing 🙌
@AQ-bd8ry2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this precious teaching .
@KCSmith12 жыл бұрын
You just explained myself to me.
@DaphneKivinenАй бұрын
When I first heard you talk Cynthia, that's the first thing I noticed about you. Over the years, your voice is so much more pleasant now. I have had to do the same thing-soften my voice.❤
@TexasSandyJ2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly. I will remember not to take the bait in the future. I will smile and be kind. Silence is also gold. 😁😁😁
@jd-um4jw2 жыл бұрын
Tone is everything, everything
@bobnewman30532 жыл бұрын
My wife and I both are strong willed. We do fight a lot. I’m hoping this will help me in dealing with her; and she with me. Thank you Cynthia Tobias.
@berdinenickens48232 жыл бұрын
I love it! Communication is important in getting alone with others 😉.
@deborahmoseng7150 Жыл бұрын
Love, love, love this. I need to listen to this everyday. Thank you.
@annewilson66482 жыл бұрын
Amazingly helpful..Teach this in Schools!!!!Everywhere.Replay replay!!!!!
@toniturner34782 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! I love this woman!
@edithbannerman4 Жыл бұрын
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
@debridgesbridges3775 Жыл бұрын
I love hearing focus on the family!
@robinrusso19692 жыл бұрын
Thank you....timely answer to prayers
@auntymom2 жыл бұрын
The Lord knows I needed this...from a SWP clashing with another SWP 🙏
@BelindaTN2 жыл бұрын
This is why I have an aversion to strong willed people…….then I married one. And found out that he inherited the trait. Lol not knowing how best to deal with it, I just didn’t. I just avoided it when I could and gave in when I couldn’t. Peace is more important to me, I guess. 43 years later and I still have my much loved husband that seems to appreciate me because I have put up with him. It helps that we moved into a bigger house and more property for me to have the space that I need to avoid him when I need to and he respects that. He in turn has learned to avoid me when he is in one of his very negative and angry moods that I am clueless to understand. Like he is clueless to understand why it should bother me so much. I have entertained the idea to treat him Like he does me with those strong willed and irritatable moods. Well. I can’t say that I would recommend that idea. Lol. What I can say is that my husband is a strong and honorable man that takes his job as a husband and a father very seriously and I love him for that.
@lynnclark42082 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jesus!!!
@tarynleikam Жыл бұрын
My husband is an SWP. 38 years ago, someone told him he’d never be able to be sober…..he showed them!! That’s always been his attitude! Don’t tell me what to do! Love your speech 🥰
@kjwolfe89072 жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤️ for providing so many tools!! I will definitely use your example for how to give grace to a difficult co-worker.
@conniejd80462 жыл бұрын
You're mine kind of person. And it works I've tried it and it works. Thank you
@Blessedmama72 жыл бұрын
This helps me SO much with my son!
@randylynnr2 жыл бұрын
I’m a strong willed person but I thank you for this. My DIL is a SWP but also a narcissist. So sometimes I get angry because she leaves thing out that I don’t get upset about because it is nice for her family and not mine. My older son is her family and that’s it. So I have to use your way with her. Maybe that will get her to think of others and not just her my son and grandkids.
@redhead8777 Жыл бұрын
As a SWP, I can vouch. This is great. Thank you! I learned about myself and others.
@Mushroom321- Жыл бұрын
I like the " i think i meant it differently how i said it ". 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@jimpemberton2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the advice Cynthia Tobias gives. The only thing I object to is the use of the moniker "strong-willed". That implies that people who are not "strong-willed" are "weak-willed". From the advice I hear from Cynthia, SWP are less capable of not being acerbic than I am of being acerbic when I choose to be. It seems they have less control over their will than I have over mine. The best way to manipulate a SWP is to let them think they are winning. I do that with my boss all the time in order to "lead up".
@lolaalaniz96202 жыл бұрын
🤣
@taras43522 жыл бұрын
This Christian speaker isn’t promoting manipulation. She’s teaching effective communication skills. There’s a big difference.
@jimpemberton2 жыл бұрын
@@taras4352 I beg to differ. There is an overlap between them.
@cindyshaver34322 жыл бұрын
Please what is an SWP🤷♀️?
@jimpemberton2 жыл бұрын
@@cindyshaver3432 SWP = Strong Willed Person. Cynthia used the acronym in the video and unless I just missed the explanation (which wouldn't be uncommon), we were just left to pick up on what it meant on our own.
@elainethomas95322 жыл бұрын
Thank you. God's blessings 🙏💗🙏
@alisonmorgan7238 Жыл бұрын
Oh how I wish I had this advice when I, an SW parent was parenting an SW son. It certainly would have been helpful for my SW mama when she was raising 3 SW children! (There were 4 of us but thankfully #4 was a sweetie) My son and I survived my SWP mistakes and we have a wonderful relationship now. More thanks to his graciousness than anything I did! Love covers a multitude of sins
@Hannah-jk3dk2 жыл бұрын
I always tell my mother to be calm and to quit releasing negativety to the environment. I need to learn how to help her cause she doesnt understand
@sweetk58972 жыл бұрын
I love focus on the family, Thank you for your ministry
@ingoditrust15432 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I just learned why there are too many fires in my house with my 5 year old.
@melissatowery33192 жыл бұрын
My son is home from prison after many years and his sister died just this may of overdose…my husband is not happy with the situation. He won’t work with this and the two are fighting…I’m stuck in the middle…..two strong willed people. They have the control😢 and I’m so tired. Pray for all of us. I took the bate
@focusonthefamily2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Melissa. We're so sorry for your loss. Our hearts went out to you as we read your note, friend. Be assured of our prayers for you, asking the Lord to draw you, your husband, and your son closer to Himself and unite your family in HIs love. May He touch you with His healing hand whenever you hurt and surround you with His peace. Also, If you ever need a listening ear, please don’t hesitate to call us at (800) 232-6459. God bless you.
@joedevane47342 жыл бұрын
@@focusonthefamily website
@dianemurillo7437 Жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for this talk. ❤
@valerielove98372 жыл бұрын
Great message. Love how she uses sarcasm. I have tried this at times. I sure works
@judykaymacgreagor44222 жыл бұрын
I needed this yesterday.
@lauragb36772 жыл бұрын
These communication tools are perfect as we enter the holiday season.
@Angebaby1237 Жыл бұрын
I can’t tell you how amazing this video is! My 13 year old daughter and I are not SWP!! All too many times I have to say get behind me Satan! ❤ We go in circles about subjects, I feel that this tactics will put a stop it! 😂
@laurieannJake2 жыл бұрын
She’s awesome!!! 😊
@poochiegarner50307 ай бұрын
Judge Judy need this message
@hhhunt7772 жыл бұрын
love her!!!
@kellyrobertscounselor2 жыл бұрын
All personalities types have their strengths and weaknesses. Alphas can be more self centered. Betas can be more self righteous. May we all be like Jesus- accept and forgive one another and cover one another’s shortcomings with love.
@edithbannerman4 Жыл бұрын
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
@danielleelias685 Жыл бұрын
I love the part about Sarcasm, Cynthia is so awesome.
@Vshokri2 жыл бұрын
Leo sign here. Loved this clip. ❤️ I am SWP
@ritadaniels31752 жыл бұрын
I acknowledge that I AM a FIRST BORN & STRONG WILLED❣️ In TODAYS world tho… I question a Millennial giving someone that “TAG” when I see SNOWFLAKES that MELT @ the HINT OF WARMTH😮😢NOW THAT GETS ME UPSET & ready for battle as I have recently battled a Narcissist in my Life that I HONESTLY THOUGHT CARED… He left me for a millennial Jezebel/Delilah & NOW I AM THANKFUL FOR TOUGH❣️✨🙏🤓 ❤️🤍💙🇺🇸
@Messiah19762 жыл бұрын
I also prayed for help as my oldest Son and I are very strong willed and Leo signs. Thank you so very much for sharing and yes, I too definitely agree it many people will benefit. 🤗🙏🕊️🤗
@MamaGenn2 жыл бұрын
You do know that astrological horiscopes are occultic right?
@SantiagoCanArt2 жыл бұрын
Yes as a Christian we should NOT be intro psychic or mediums
@A-Grammie-On-the-ROCK2 жыл бұрын
An idea ? Pray over him to have the sign of the cross and renounce the Leo sign. The cross and the Blood of Jesus breaks every chain and is more powerful than anything else
@A-Grammie-On-the-ROCK2 жыл бұрын
World Vision no longer lifts up Christ but Focus does still
@A-Grammie-On-the-ROCK2 жыл бұрын
@@MamaGennexactly ! My sign is the sign of the cross ✝️🙏
@elizabethe59762 жыл бұрын
I posit that strong willed people have high need for and tend to extend respect, and so often in culture we "nicely" disrespect and SWP recognize and resist that.
@BushTurkeys2 жыл бұрын
Opposition defiant disorder - how to cope with interactions! She’s hilarious
@annahchirwa66282 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cynthia is is an eye opener.
@mariavaldez92432 жыл бұрын
An absolutely clever woman! 😆
@MonarchAZ2 жыл бұрын
I am a reformed by Christ SWP. Unfortunately my son married a girl just like his Mom was before Christ fixed me. My DIL is not a practicing Christian so her strong will has manifested in bullying me. I've allowed it thinking she'd eventually respond to love & kindness. 15 years later she still dominates and I can only maintain my contact with my son & granddaughter by obeying her rules. Her abusive disrespect has only grown. My broken heart is only surpassed by how she has throttled my ability to bring Christ's love into their family. I would like to stand up for myself but Christ is more important. I pray they will have some revelation after I die.
@kathryncarty16292 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much!!!
@tfr8s442 жыл бұрын
I am a SWP and my 2nd born daughter is very much one as well. Thank you for this message. I will be praying and trying my best to be better at these issues.
@tfr8s442 жыл бұрын
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@randiloreaux69912 жыл бұрын
The Way They Learn
@marjoriebennett84432 жыл бұрын
this is very helpful; thankyou.
@kobusingyehannahannet65462 жыл бұрын
This is real Life nuggets thank you so much
@agreer35192 жыл бұрын
phenomenal speaker, great audio
@harleysanders49822 жыл бұрын
I like her alot!!!
@jotumminia69582 жыл бұрын
Amen, I have sarcasm as well but not as much! I try to be kind!
@mcleodpro72 жыл бұрын
Absolute quality 👌🏾
@candyalexander21962 жыл бұрын
My 30 year old swp just paid for us to go on a 6 week 40th anniversary trip from out of no where he asked what r u doing to celebrate I said gas toooo high we will stay home he said here is a check u and dad decide where u want to go camping out west Utah and Arizona are fabulous stopping at GSM Dollywood on the way back to NC thanks Payton son u r our gem love mom and dad