Getting into tech without a degree *Brutal Truth* I Salaries | Cybersecurity |S5 EP 3

[@thulanidhlamini1347]

Good that someone has finally said it about the degree and no degree issue because I was attacked on this platform for telling the truth. I will repeat , a certification can get you an IT job but don't go around rubbishing people with a degree , it still needed by over 80% employers out there.

[@liferesetwithboni]

Attacking anyone is uncalled for , people must learn to do what works for them and not attack anyone or undermine anyone. 🙏😊

[@Nique3900]

I didn't watch the full video, but just to summarise what certificate is recommended

[@liferesetwithboni]

If you can't watch the video, then don't bother with the industry. ✌️

[@Nique3900]

@@liferesetwithboni You are a very respectfully person Boni, What happened now? I will watch your video when I have time. It is a long video, but have respect for your subscribers. Don't tell me what industry not to consider just because I have not watched your video.

[@liferesetwithboni]

@Nique3900 Sorry, I keep responding to the wrong comment. No, I'm not being dispectful. Expecting me to summarise a video for you is not cool. That's just that I'm not being dispectful. You are just asking for way too much, way too much. First of all, you expect me to ask you which certifications you are referring to? No, that's just asking for way too much.

[@casticojack3902]

Hi Guys, I was lucky to get Learnership from ABSA which is was helping us as Cybersecurity academy from 2021 and this year I graduated and I'am getting intership from Absa.

[@noctanal9269]

Can I get if I don't have a degree only have certifications.

[@jyeviolegrace2143]

I would like to know more , how do I apply ?

[@liferesetwithboni]

I've posted about this earlier this yeat

[@liferesetwithboni]

They want a degree

[@liferesetwithboni]

Cool

[@Cakez1738]

Sis Boni i just want to say thank you for the work that you do. Just from watching your content, i have learnt so many things. Thanks again❤

[@liferesetwithboni]

Thank you so much!

[@danielchitima7048]

Great guest, loved the honesty and directness of his answers.

[@liferesetwithboni]

I'm glad you found value!

[@kholde-way5959]

Thank you, guys. This was very informative. I want to work in cyber security but have never been in the tech space. So this has given me some direction in terms of what to start with.

[@trivagravia4837]

As l once posted on this channel on another video..nothing beats having a degree...my own brother was a self taught no degree IT guy..he got some IT certifications ...He was just working at some low level joints..it was when he went to varsity and got a 1st class degree in BSc Comp Science, that's when he landed a contract based job with one of the Fortune 500 companies in Europe, l wont mention its name for security reasons, ...from there the sky was the limit..he now holds an MSc in Comp Science specialising in Machine learning...guys go to varsity and get that degree if you can...you loose nothing..

[@liferesetwithboni]

What if you can't go to varsity? I think that's where you are missing the point.

[@trivagravia4837]

@@liferesetwithboni "guys go to varsity and get that degree IF YOU CAN...you loose nothing..".....that's the point you missed....thing is the inability to go to university doesn't invalidates going to university and the opposite is true. Without a degree you can be self taught, do certifications, and get that job locally,its all good, but if you want to scale it up go to varsity IF YOU CAN...A DEGREE is beneficial especially across borders, getting job visas in countries like Australia, UK, Canada..you definitely need a degree, according to their critical list professions terms and conditions..a degree is a global standard...

[@sage_bs]

Thank you sis Boni for organizing the interviews but more so on the fact that you listen to the person you’re interviewing and you ask valid questions and also raise valid points when they may be having a different opinion. Danko

[@liferesetwithboni]

You are welcome 😊

[@111earthangel5]

Great video. Spencer was very honest as he could and direct. Thank you for the valuable conversation and great questions Boni 🙂

[@liferesetwithboni]

I'm glad you found value!

[@LM-he7eb]

This was a nice chat. You can tell he is comfortable in this space

[@liferesetwithboni]

He loves his job so much!

[@MojalefaRaleting]

The answer to this payslip problem is simple... 1. Companies must legally publish their salary range in the job ads (as this has always been the practice) 2. Companies must be charged for asking candidates to breach their contractual obligations of adhering to the confidentiality clauses in their contracts, which includes info about their payslip.

[@simphiwekhumalo4556]

This was a beautiful interview. 🥰🥰🥰🥰. Thank you guys 🙏🙏.

[@liferesetwithboni]

I'm glad you found value.

[@asandambucane6334]

This was very informative. Thank you sis Boni

[@liferesetwithboni]

Spencer is so kind 😇

[@KATLEGO_kat]

Thanks for this Boni🖤

[@liferesetwithboni]

You are welcome

[@kabelogorekwang5840]

I love your work Boni, bless you ❤

[@liferesetwithboni]

Hi Kabelo , thank you!

[@mnchabel8402]

My issue with tech is that the recruitment processes, especially for those without much experience is a nightmare, but honestly most of companies are just snakes and lie about the job or their cultures.

[@Shelllink-k4o]

I am excited gonna starting cyber-security as incubate at 4iri by first week of next month but I have background of software development.Nice platform

[@liferesetwithboni]

Awesome stuff!

[@SirTerryZW]

He doesn’t actually know what he’s talking about regarding payslips and salaries. 1. They need the payslip because businesses want to pay the lowest possible price for everything. That’s how they increase profit margins. Even if the price of bread is supposed to be R20, no company would refuse an opportunity to get a loaf for R18. 2. Starting at a new company is not an increase, it’s a new role. A lot of people still manage to pull off 50-60% increases by either not providing a payslip or providing a fake one. 3. Recruiters don’t get you a higher offer. They get paid per successful placement so they are less likely to “fight” for you because they’re competing with other recruiters and need to get the placement asap

[@MenziManqele]

This makes sense

[@MojalefaRaleting]

Department of labour really needs to look at these exploitative and predatory labour practices and hold companies accountable. You can't allow such things to happen in a country where the inequality is ALREADY the highest in the world. This just makes it worse.

[@lindamngqibisa7851]

That was a great interview. Thank you Boni. I got 2 recruiters who literally blue ticked me on likedin and one of them is always posting on assisting. still shoced even today

[@liferesetwithboni]

Let's say you were not the right fit😍😍😍

[@smexmotionpictures]

The perfect and most honest interview ever on the channel

[@liferesetwithboni]

Thank you 👌

[@tapiwanhemachena6922]

Doing my BSc(Hons) in Cyber Security and Networking, Hope one day to be part of this family

[@liferesetwithboni]

🙌🙌🙌

[@liferesetwithboni]

Don't forget us!

[@Yxvng-bxll]

We thank you this was so helpful ❤

[@liferesetwithboni]

Awesome

[@Nokuthula_Thuleey]

Very informative, thank you sis Boni❤️🙏💐

[@liferesetwithboni]

Spencer is so kind!

[@khomotjokekana9152]

Why do hiring managers like to ask you your salary expectation when they have a budget for the job?

[@liferesetwithboni]

Noted

[@Ritesh-yy1zr]

They want to pay you less then their budget

[@nkosbonilemteto412]

They wanna eliminate you if you say something dumb.

[@nationhlohlomi9333]

They want to pay you less. I had to quit my job because I was being paid R9500 p/m in cape town ​@Ritesh-yy1zr

[@bonchetech]

They wanna know how much you value yourself your skill. Are you confident enough to demand for your skills

[@kefilwemogakabe9168]

I can’t wait 🎉🎉🎉

[@liferesetwithboni]

We are within

[@kefilwemogakabe9168]

@@liferesetwithboni how can I subscribe in your premium

[@liferesetwithboni]

I don't have that option yet.

[@bekinature6984]

Which recruitment agencies can he recommend.

[@nationhlohlomi9333]

Start-ups pay peanuts 🥜 and there is a lot of work however the experience is excellent.

[@liferesetwithboni]

Experience Experience 👍

[@nkululekomanana2188]

I have to agree, currently in a startup I learn a lot on the daily

[@mzukisimazula8174]

No Spencer, You have a budget for that position. Therefore, you can't want to pay less now based on what I am currently earning. Should the tables be turned here, the organization will not pay me 100k if the budget is 50k. Pay based on your budget not on what others are paying when it favors the company, but won't pay it when it is above your budget. IT IS UNFAIR for companies to justify the payslip request.

[@liferesetwithboni]

Spencer will come back!

[@mzukisimazula8174]

Thank you for such an informative session with Spencer. Please ask him, what does entry level mean to his profession, because his colleagues will advertise a entry-level job, but requirements will be from 5 years experience or even 10 years of experience is required for an entry level job.

[@jimmykhosa8932]

So let’s say you want 100k and the budget is 150 at max, here it’s a matter of: 1. Some budget will do towards your training 2. Some is for yearly increases so that we can afford you compared to paying the maximum then the next year end there’s no budget for increases and it is much possible to get a yearly 12% increase than to get a 100% increase when you join. After joining we get to know you and such can be benchmarked to suit both company and employee 3. There are multiple signoffs to be employed that’s why it takes time after your interview and there needs to be justifications for all new hires and salary increases 4. In most cases IT is a support role meaning that we do not bring in money to the business so we can not be paid as much as where we bring business and in this case bringing business includes ensuring confidentiality and integrity of systems that being in business There’s so much to consider when it comes to salaries

[@moniza0]

I still don't undersrand the payslip issue. I feel like he might just not vouch for a higher increase as he says.

[@liferesetwithboni]

I got it eventually

[@danielchitima7048]

The payslip explanation was rather whack. The company has a defined range and budget. They must offer what the budget amount is.

[@liferesetwithboni]

@danielchitima7048 lol you guys don't get it. 🤣

[@xxyyxx9791]

@@liferesetwithboniYou didn’t press him. Salary ranges aren’t even just market related, companies themselves also have internal ranges. Every I have interviewed with that had their things in order already had a budget set and asked if I could fit, benefits are a different story. Another thing, especially in the tech field, there’s progression. How do you justify paying someone 20% more of their website manager salary for a front end role? It’s two different roles

[@liferesetwithboni]

I've never really had a job, I don't know much about salary negotiation funny enough. 😄

[@omphiledirero5622]

​@@liferesetwithboniThis is very interesting

[@liferesetwithboni]

Yes, this is why I bring people to be pressed by you .😄😄you could tell that I was not agreeing with him, but you guys can take the conversation further.

[@bentendo2794]

Hello Boni I need your help am in Uganda am a deal Cloud enthusiast with AWS I even got certified as an AWS solutions Architect but I hv failed to get work though am doing some projects

[@liferesetwithboni]

I don't have jobs. Check the description box for the links to recruitment agencies.

[@MVB-World-c1y]

Hi Boni, Love your channel sisi I've followed you on Instagram for ages, but never really subscribed. I'm glad I finally joined this village and actually watched your videos. This content is so informative sisi. Keep it up!

[@liferesetwithboni]

Yo Instagram, what a strange place to find me 🤣🤣🤣that platform was created for dms when tik tok didn't allow them glad you finally found the village, this is home🙏❤️

[@wendykgosi149]

So petty though. Guys who learn through certifications and self study are far better . The It industry is the fastest growing regarding tech but remain in the 1800s when it comes to recruitment. I know so many people good with IT and didn’t go to some money sucking university .these recruiters and hiring managers in companies must catch a wake up. This is 2024!!!! Not 1600s

[@liferesetwithboni]

No one is better, Wendy! People must do what works for them, but companies need to wake up now,

[@wendykgosi149]

I meant they are better in terms of being in touch with REALITY and the practicalities of real workplace solutions . University teaches them outdated stuff and for years! Whereas certifications can do in far least time and money. Also the reality of our country is that most people can’t afford this business called “university” yet they have so much potential. Hiring managers is stuck in the 1600s and must get their heads out the gutter otherwise they’ll miss many gems💎 who can think out the box and actually do the work instead of just hiring “yes sir no sir 3 bags full” mediocre workers.

[@thulanidhlamini1347]

Hilarious , having a degree doesnt mean you cant do the certification , having both makes you better than someone with a certification only , Its logical.

[@wendykgosi149]

@@thulanidhlamini1347 I HIGHLY disagree. And i can go blue in the face repeating this. agree to disagree 👏🤜

[@thulanidhlamini1347]

@@wendykgosi149 Okay its fine you work for a great company that doesnt need degrees

[@omphiledirero5622]

Hi sis Boni,thank you so much for this!!Can you please interview someone about Microsoft certifications.I have 4 Microsoft certifications and struggling to find work/internships.I dont know if its because of my age(37). Thanks so much❤

[@liferesetwithboni]

I've interviewed people with Microsoft certificates it just depends on what type of certifications.

[@omphiledirero5622]

@@liferesetwithboni okay thanks, I will go through your library..You're doing the lords work 💪

[@thulanidhlamini1347]

@omphile my honest opinion , MS certifications have lost value since they changed to the Azure aligned certificates. Old certifications like MCDBA and MCSE were big achievements not these Azure certifications. In my opinion , its even better to pursue AWS certification than Microsoft nowadays.

[@omphiledirero5622]

@@thulanidhlamini1347 Thanks..it gets more confusing every day

[@vusimsiza4790]

Hi SIs' Boni, I can relate to this. I just wanted to ask if you over 35yrs of age and have a Diploma with no experience in the IT field. What other channels can I go through since internships recruit up to a certain younger age? Are there other specific jobs for us out there ?

[@Tshepo-oe8dc]

This was really informative 👏

[@liferesetwithboni]

Glad you found value ✨️

[@LM-he7eb]

They need to have a set budget for employees.

[@liferesetwithboni]

🤣

[@tanakacmakombe]

Is ABMA UK education internationally recognised and is it a good school to go to???

[@liferesetwithboni]

Check accreditations

[@tanakacmakombe]

@@liferesetwithboni sorry I'm new, where can I check that?

[@andrewmncedisidube5636]

Fantastic

[@liferesetwithboni]

✌️

[@Unknown124k]

nICE INTERVIEW BUT RECRUITERS VOUCH FOR THE RECRUITERS. Boni please keep at it. Get a recruiter and someone thats fighting for fairer conditions.

[@liferesetwithboni]

Ha ha ha, that sounds like labour relations content, not for this channel, but I appreciate your comment. 😄

[@gudanikhaarendwe4959]

Is an honours degree necessary, or is a bsc/bcom statistics fine?

[@whitneynovela406]

Speaking as someone who has a BSc. Applied Maths and Stas together with two postgrad degrees, you don't need an honours but the more degrees you have (related to your field) the more negotiating power it gives you salary wise. Of course, depending on the field, certifications serve the same purpose. So while you don't need it, it definitely helps.

[@gudanikhaarendwe4959]

@whitneynovela406 Thanks. How much does it matter when I'm starting my job, can't I get the extra qualifications while working

[@mzwandilenngcobo6203]

Mr Spencer I would like to ask I'm currently in Matric and next year I was thinking of doing Comptia certs ( A+, N+, S+, Cloud +) but i also have an option of doing computer science degree in wits or UCT. Which one do you think i should do ?

[@liferesetwithboni]

If you have an opportunity to do CS, do it, and in my opinion, both universities are good but I'll leave it to Spencer and the village.

[@neokibe7646]

You will never go wrong with Computer Science

[@neokibe7646]

Either Wits or UCT are a good option.

[@mzwandilenngcobo6203]

@@liferesetwithboni Thank you

[@TKcool11]

Degree is best option; it exposes you to broader Computer Systems knowledge.. me thinks

[@phiwenduli7304]

Spencer is a cool guy 😂

[@liferesetwithboni]

Absolutely

[@Thxbi]

Hi Boni I am a final year information systems student but I am currently stuck between picking career I need some help

[@liferesetwithboni]

Help how?

[@ZibaneNqobani]

@Thxbi me 2 bro can we lock in??🙏

[@Thxbi]

I have a passion for both cyber and software development

[@liferesetwithboni]

Pick one

[@thatoditsele9192]

@@Thxbi passion? which projects have you built?

[@mnqobithabethe7544]

Hi Boni is an online BSc in Computer science worth it? Like doing the degree from universities abroad but online?

[@liferesetwithboni]

Yo unemali and yes it's worth it.

[@mnqobithabethe7544]

😂I'm on a scholarship by Study Access Alliance in partnership with Rlabs

[@liferesetwithboni]

Wow that's fantastic! Go for it!

[@nationhlohlomi9333]

This dude was not 100% honest. His sharing the good side only.

[@liferesetwithboni]

Okay

[@Phiri-wu1eq]

Sesi Boni🙏🏽

[@liferesetwithboni]

❤️

[@tshepomogotsi2238]

🎉

[@KamogeloMaluleke-k1k]

Time stamps?

[@liferesetwithboni]

@KamogeloMaluleke-k1k I'll do it tomorrow, had a lot going on today.

[@KMDmasenye]

sesi Boni please take it easy on the adds,they too much

[@liferesetwithboni]

I don't add ads, Google does, and if they are too much, please don't watch my content and don't try to explain anything. Just block the channel.

[@davidlategan3982]

😅

[@ThabisoRatlou]

📍

[@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074]

You want us dead Nina yhaz. Like seriously,why do we need to show wonke umntu our payslips,worse kulamalanga Siphila kuwo.

[@liferesetwithboni]

Lol! It is what it is!

[@TerriTerriHotSauce]

Tech recruiters are a joke.

[@MojalefaRaleting]

Can spencer please not undermine our intelligence. We are adults and we are professionals. We all know companies in SA are exploiting employees and the payslip request further entrenches that pattern. A 20% increase on an underpaid salary is still underpaid because the candidate is usually applying for a role thats at a higher level than their previous role.... which now makes them underpaid for THAT role at THAT level.

[@Unknown124k]

I cant watch because the sound is horrible

[@liferesetwithboni]

And you don't have to. ✌️

[@brandinmichael5475]

Sometimes you have to focus on the gold rather than the pot

[@moniza0]

Its your device. The sound is very clear.

[@liferesetwithboni]

The network was shaky on Spencer s side but I was not going to stop the interview since we know what we are looking for. 🙏

[@Unknown124k]

Yeah I'll probably listen to it when I'm at work wearing earphones. It's good to have different people interviewed. Sometimes recruiters think they know the career the person is in better than those whos in the profession. I've learnt that recruiters can't tell the professionals. They following a list of things where the professional have knowledge of things not on the list they hiring from. Just my two cents

[@simphiwembangeni4460]

Hellobsis boni. May you please ask the person you interviewing to leave his Instagram account, Facebook account or email address if he does not have social media platforms. Please. He dropping valuable knowledge.

[@liferesetwithboni]

Why don't you watch the video?

[@simphiwembangeni4460]

I am watching the video.

[@MT-04]

​@@simphiwembangeni4460 check video description you'll get his LinkedIn

[@liferesetwithboni]

Okay !

[@treasurem2491]

Hi Boni, id love to do a video with you. Please provide me with your email

[@liferesetwithboni]

[e-mail]