Getting Started with One Page Rules

[@TableTopWolf1984]

I just want to state again how the demo game is not meant to be treated as a full on how to play, its just for people getting started to see the flavour of how it plays, if you want a full on how to play game to learn it in depth, please check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHqXaJ6Bfrd5grM

[@sf356]

Seems like OPR is gaining some serious momentum recently. It would be cool to see other companies create supplementary material in the future to delve into more lore and advanced rulesets. Thanks for the introduction!

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Yeah its changed a lot in the 2-3 years since I discovered it an did these videos an all

[@phaedrosx]

Heyo, great video, but just wanted to chime in and let you know that you misunderstood AP. AP does not affect Quality Tests, it affects Defense Tests. An Ogre with a 3+ save who is hit by AP(2) will need to roll a 5+ Defense Test normally, but because of their rule the AP is reduced by 1 and thus they need to make a 4+ on their Defense Test.

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Okay as I said though don't treat this like a how to play as I already have that video done much better and more accurate

[@josephskiles]

Thanks a lot for this! I finally pulled the trigger on both AOS and 40k and spent a lot to time and money on models after years and years and years of wanting to try it. To be honest I'm kinda intimidated by all the rules as well so this may be perfect for me

[@TableTopWolf1984]

It's a great easy to learn free game

[@josephskiles]

@@TableTopWolf1984 Thanks again, I'm gonna try and get my buddy to try it with me. He wants to start collecting night haunts and I have some of the more expensive models in that line already because I mainly wanted to paint them/ they look cool, so if I grab him some battle lines maybe I can break out my night goblins finally! Kinda excited, not gonna lie

[@midnightrider1100]

Yes, GW games have evolved into a competitive play format where all the different rules for different phases make it unmanageable unless you spend a lot of time practicing. Being that the game takes a lot of time to prepare and play, that takes away from the amount of games you can play. OPR allows you to get in more games and less to master, yet is still fun and can be competitive to a degree.

[@cozmoz365]

Hi, regarding your Office woes, you may like Libre Office for list building or the BattleScribe.

[@TableTopWolf1984]

I'll have a look at libre office mate as I couldn't find an up to date file for battlescribe

[@ophicusmm6514]

I couldn't find the 2.50 version...

[@JoeKundlak]

Batlescribe is out of the game now, Army Forge is the resident List Builder for OPR.

[@MiaTsukiyoko]

For those who looked at this vidéo, the webapp to create list is actually in open beta, only for Grimdark Future 2.5 for now, but the other games should follow

[@TableTopWolf1984]

That useful for people ta

[@fiofio601]

I've read the manuals today. Very easy to learn. I'll try a game next week

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Hope you enjoy it

[@gruffersg2902]

Very interesting video, have heard of one page rules so now going to have a much closer look. Thanks.

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Glad it was helpful!

[@littlecarnage1143]

You tend to confuse A (=Attack) getting modified by AP(-1) (=Armor piercing -1). This is incorrect. AP is a damage modifier and thus it is used on the DEFENSE roll, not the ATTACK roll! This was already the case in 2021. See core rules description "AP(X): Targets get -X to Defense rolls when blocking hits."

[@TableTopWolf1984]

fair enough hopefully people read your comment coz I dont even play lol, havent since 2020, my playthrough from that year is probably more accurate

[@innpeasea5121]

26:26 Can you please explain how the Warcheifs attack doesn't allow a block. Is it because his AP 4 is higher than the opponents Def?

[@TableTopWolf1984]

The AP adds onto the defence roll you need, and you can't roll a 7. Please check the proper how to play video though as thats where more detailed questions are answered.

[@innpeasea5121]

@@TableTopWolf1984 I understand, With the AP being 7 I just assumed you need a six to block. But that makes sense rules-wise. Thanks. My son and I just started playing.

[@TableTopWolf1984]

@@innpeasea5121 if you're just starting I strongly recommend my how to play much more, as that was meant to cover everything about the game, and runs you through all of the rules properly, this is more just a demo to show you the flavour of its gameplay, there might even be mistakes I might have missed as I haven't played a wargame since I last did the how to play last year

[@Vitaedrinker]

This is incorrect: Whenever a modifier applies to one of your rolls, simply add or subtract the value from the roll and the new value counts as the final result, however a roll of 6 always counts as a success and a roll of 1 always counts as a fail, regardless of how much it is being modified by.

[@vividpsychosis8222]

@@Vitaedrinker yup! There should have been rolls. Because a 6 is still a block regardless of AP making it a 7 in GD

[@Vlad65WFPReviews]

I am missing something obvious -please help. When I go to the Forge, most of the "Unit" stats indicate that the "Unit" is only 1 Model -- (1) in brackets, correct? Are we supposed to simply combine 3 or even five of these models into a "squad"? For example, the Battle Brothers unit stats only listed 1-person units? How does this work - what is the limit to the number of figures and how do you find that out?

[@TableTopWolf1984]

are you looking at grimdark future fire fight which is the skirmish game or grimdark future? The brackets means the unit size, so most battle brothers I see are 3 or 5 unit sized an then you just double that number to make a combined unit. In firefight every unit is individual as its a skirmish kill team style game, so every unit is separate

[@Vlad65WFPReviews]

@@TableTopWolf1984 Hi, I think you are correct and I was looking at lists for the Skirmish game. Thanks.

[@DannyEastes]

Heyyyy is that a fellow yamyam I hear? ;) Awesome stuff, I do love this game and its such a nice alternative to other more expensive games

[@TableTopWolf1984]

I bin ar ah kid, a Dudley mon

[@DannyEastes]

Oh ar, I'm from Tividale just down the road. Small world ay it

[@ElcriptoPana]

What about the stunned rule?

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Never heard of it so it's probably new, this video is 2-3 years old at this point mate an was based on version 1, think we're on version 3 now lol

[@Wabbasha]

Stone Bones: doesn't it influence the def roll instead of the quality roll?

[@nicolejohntahup5901]

Is it okay to play the other games like 'Army Men combat' and other simple games like Grimdark Future: Hex Arena?

[@TableTopWolf1984]

why wouldn't it be?

[@nicolejohntahup5901]

@@TableTopWolf1984 sorry for a silly question I still new to this whole table top games I start this hobby a few mounts ago after hearing dnd I start to like it but it turns out dnd is a bit complex, then I discovered Index Card RPG Master Edition which is dnd but simpler and better, it had 5 theme's setting the fantasy theme, the Sci Fi theme, the Weird West theme, Superheroes theme, and Ice Age/Early Man Theme. I'm still lacking materials to truly play it, but I slowly managing it. Then I come across Warhammer 40k wargame which is cool but like dnd it had complex, then I discovered One Page Rules One Off Games, the Army Men and Waste land Racing. Sorry for such a long text.

[@TableTopWolf1984]

@@nicolejohntahup5901 just try things and play what you enjoy mate, thats what we all do lol

[@gabzgaming5991]

Looks great , I'm gonna give it a go

[@TableTopWolf1984]

hope you enjoy it

[@gabzgaming5991]

@@TableTopWolf1984 thanks , did a quick read up of basic rules , they look great

[@brushhammerdice4438]

Thx for that introduction to opr. I will try it out! Can you shoot at units which are in melee combat?

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Cheers, haven't played for 2 years but I don't think so

[@yoshirosgaming]

Honestly, is there any big differences between AoF vs GF, other than being scifi and medieval?

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Sci fi and fantasy but no not really, regiments is different as it's like old warhammer fantasy though with movement trays and pivots

[@yoshirosgaming]

@@TableTopWolf1984 I see, so for the non-regiment AoF, there's actually no diff in gameplay, other than obviously the weapons that are handled be it in AoF or GF. Can I say that?

[@TableTopWolf1984]

@@yoshirosgaming yeah weapons and armour are really the only differences between the two, it's why it's so great if you play both as you can get into them easilly and don't forget stuff

[@KONFLIK2175]

Hi we're startup IP from Indonesia, making Mecha Post-apocalyptic world. Can we use this rules with our minis? thanks!

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Think you'd be better off asking the creators themselves mate

[@bugfighter5949]

@@TableTopWolf1984 lol

[@josephskiles]

I kinda find it hard to believe there are no brick and mortar chains that specialize in 3d printing all sorts of things. I could see something like that making a hug profit!

[@TableTopWolf1984]

I think there is in America, yanks usually capitalise on those sorts of things, but middle of Dudley, your lucky to see an open shop these days lol

[@josephskiles]

@@TableTopWolf1984 well I'm a hick from Indiana, we don't often get the luxeries city folk take for granted, but I wouldn't be surprised if your right though. I just as I said can't believe if a chain store that specialized in printing different items didn't raise up then some other company ( like say a chain hardware store that could take real advantage of the need to custom print an object for a project) couldn't make a huge profit, it would more than likely require some sort of out building to cut back on fumes and such but I could see it totally working for a business were they could pay a machine off in no time. Just an idea

[@alexwild1435]

We’ve got one here on the Isle of Wight.

[@josephskiles]

@@TableTopWolf1984 well I'm an American, though I live in the Midwest so it takes awhile for stuff like that to catch on. I think some UPS stores are starting to do it at some of the stores in major cities

[@shymenoroeds7552]

ty for showing

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Cheers

[@eldritchmorgasm4018]

Isn't there an RPG-ish set of rules? Something like "Dungeons & Heroes" I think it's called...

[@TableTopWolf1984]

I'll be honest I've no idea mate, ive never played an RPG so never looked for anything like one

[@GobiQc]

On the patreon there is

[@grimoirworkshop6623]

Im sorry but that’s not the way ap-1 works

[@TableTopWolf1984]

depends on how the rules have changed of course, but this video was made in early 2021

[@Son0fAggression]

Gave Grimdark Future a try a couple times recently and it honestly felt like the most generic and banal game I've ever played. Maybe I've missed something but it got really boring after a bit, without any tactics or strategy in there. Just move, shoot, repeat...

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Then don't take this wrong, but I think its either not for you, or you weren't playing it right, coz the strategy and tactics come from making your moment to moment instant decisions. You only activating 1 unit a time is where the main tactics and strategy are, as they are done for that entire round then, so the savvy players will keep the stronger units back to have a nice mid to late round punch, teasing chaff to bait opponents units you want to try to destroy, either out of cover or, just out of activation to give your better movement and positioning for your turn, or turns if you go first next round. Great players of this are like Bolt Action, Saga or Dragon Rampant ones, they would be almost impossible to beat coz its all about making the best decisions every activation and making your opponent make the wrong one their activation to punish them like you planned. This has way more strategy and tactics than anything by GW from my perspective

[@Son0fAggression]

@@TableTopWolf1984 if that is truly it, then it likely really isn't for me. The only game that doesn't have alternating activations is 40k which is stuck in the 80s and a horrendous game imo. Every other game worth its salt has them already as a base construct, while adding actually interesting concepts to it. OPR seems to do the very bare minimum in that regard. Alternating activations. Don't get me wrong, that is a big step forward from 40k but 40k is the lowest bar in the hobby to clear. I guess I was just getting into this with way too high expectations. It is a good tool to get youngsters into tabletop I guess, so that's a big plus.

[@30035XD]

Rank and Flyle XP

[@MarquisDeSang]

1 page are actually 2 pages.

[@TableTopWolf1984]

Think it's more than that now also with 3rd edition, I only ever played 1st lol

[@NickHannan]

Do we have to pay to join a discord server? Lol

[@TableTopWolf1984]

I've no idea on this one, will be honest

[@lamMeTV]

Congaline crap? more like cinematic positioning