Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 PC Game Review

[@jackoneill45]

I'm surprised there's no praise for the craziness and verticality of the level design. Some of the levels are really unique, requiring you to go through these huge winding tunnels and taking you for a ride, or one in particular where you have to escape while everything is sideways and boxes and shit are sliding around and killing other dudes that you have to avoid. The things you do in this game is really evocative of star wars and are pretty crazy for a game even now where stuff like that would usually be a cutscene or something.

[@UnchainedEruption]

Like that time you had to jump on to 8T-88’s ship at the end of the level. That would be a cutscene today but you actually had to do it yourself here.

[@johnlong765]

@@UnchainedEruption and there was even an easter egg if you do a 180 turn in mid air at that jump ;)

[@JohnnyNatrium]

This is actually the case in general for older games vs newer ones. All the setpiece stuff is really not in the player's control and you either watch the full thing just play out, or all you have to do is press a few buttons that the game tells you to. Older games often are much more immersive gameplay wise.

[@yarpen26]

JK has some of the best level design I've ever seen in a game. Coming out onto the bigass courtyard in Baron's Hed feels absolutely stunning, walking on cranes and bridges high above ground can really get nauseating and the ship escape stage is a masterpiece through and through.

[@Hamel7777]

its much more enjoyavle played as a shooter in my opinion as well

[@LuckeeStrikee]

My all time favorite FPS, mostly because of the outstanding level design.

[@EmmanuelEXEf06]

+Luckee Strikee And fast paced action ? The speed of the run is so fun in this game, same with the epic weapons... :)

[@GoldGollum]

I used to have the demo version on PC, seeing this game make me almost cry, I loved it! If someone remember the name of the song used in the demo version please let me know : )

[@Ojthemighty]

The sound fx the level design the game play the characters the atmosphere just freakin love this game been playin it since it came out on my brothers copy and cant stop playin.

[@tiborreszegi6185]

Take a look at Unreal 98 (Unreal Gold), if you like outstanding level design, and visuals. In 98, when Unreal came out, there were no game what could comete with that, such big maps, and complex map with the visuals it has - not a single game could beat. Even looking great nowadays.

[@Tracer_Krieg]

Something of a shame is the DLC, Mysteries of the Sith, does not come with live-action cutscenes. This is one of the few games that puts in the role of Mara Jade and seeing her in the flesh would've been a real treat to see.

[@andrewperkin7192]

i miss games with live action scenes i dunno its just that 90s thing

[@Melvinshermen]

Andrew Perkin yes

[@Ojthemighty]

They had their own charm

[@shodan2002]

i never liked them espcially when they use real people in the game like the classic mortal combat

[@guitarheroaddict12]

As cheesy as the we're in the 90s if they would have kept going with live action into more modern times with today's budget in games it could have been really awesome

[@Peter_the_breadman]

Actually, i think we all miss games with a well made captivating story. Graphics are important yes.... But it all becomes an empty shell without that tight story with mini clips!

[@Tellin08]

Just a heads up for anyone that is interested in getting this, the Dark Forces 2 version that was released on GoG recently is the best version. You can easily run it at 1080p with none of the problems that plague the steam version.

[@thewewguy8t88]

+Tellin08 yeah i was thinking of getting on gog since i heard it runs way better then the steam version.

[@2012Parag]

+Tellin08 but mods can't be run with the gog version

[@tunainoil]

I know this is an old comment but I recall the GOG version still requiring some fiddling to get hardware acceleration to work. The HW accelerated version looks much better than the software rendered one.

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

Just get a old 50-70 dollar desktop and put windows XP on it. Im thinking about doing this as I only play pre2010 games and run windows 10. winass 10 on which nothing properly works. Winass 10 on which I experience massive gamebreaking framerate drops with 15 year old Deus Ex and Rome Total War. Winass 10 which cant run Total Annihilation Kingdoms from 20 years ago without hardcrashing my pc. Which cant run Morrorwins fluently without having to download fixes. Yeah that modern development for you. Wouldnt be surprised if its on intend by the Microsoft communists who want to make any old things and data reminding us of the old world unusable and erase it that way. Just a thought tho. Why else would they be able to just upgrade windows until windows 7 and then fucking anything over with windows 10

[@Legofanbro247]

What is GoG?

[@JarlFrank]

The level design in this game is god-tier. So much verticality, it's lovely. I wish more games today would actually use all three dimensions of 3D this effectively!

[@Ojthemighty]

Doom eternal has entered the chat

[@jonny-b4954]

@@Ojthemighty Meh, it didn't really make all that much use of verticality. I mean, it has some.

[@Ojthemighty]

@@jonny-b4954 all those memories of jumping, swinging, leaping from platform to platform, shooting through the air by jump pads all while shooting demons must be false then

[@jonny-b4954]

@@Ojthemighty I did say it has some. Not really what I was considering verticality at first, though I guess it technically is. Jumping around isn't really my definition of verticality. But drastically open expanses where you can look down 20 minutes later and see the section you were just at. Absolutely towering levels and what not. So, I guess Doom Eternal does have more of that than I considered at first. I just dont' recall even really noticing any abnormal verticality to that game.

[@Ojthemighty]

@@jonny-b4954 well thats extreme verticality.

[@DeadYorick]

I think the monologues at the beginning of each boss fight are from Qu Rahn. the guy who died in the opening cinematic. Since he appears as a force ghost to the player a few times. He also stops monologuing at the start of each boss fight as soon as you turn dark side which I thought was a very nice touch.

[@Ojthemighty]

Yeah. I noticed the uneasy silence and i didn't like it.

[@winternow2242]

I always thought it was Rahn, who Kyle does meet early on in the game. It made sense to me that Kyle has lost his father, and the finality of that loss is that there's no force-ghost for Kyle to reach (even though that wasn't a problem by the time that Jedi Outcast was released).

[@alinasir5928]

really wish they would do a jedi knight 4 instead of the other crap star wars games

[@edwinj]

We need Jedi Knight 4 and Kotor 3. Those are the 2 best star wars series in my opinion.

[@cavscout888]

BF1 and BF2 were great... but if they aren't going to continue those in a meaningful way, then ya...

[@and8091]

Wish we got The Force Unleashed 3.

[@abadenoughdude300]

Jedi Knight 4 The Lootboxes Strike Back

[@beltube]

jedi fallen order looks kinda promising IMO, just wish it had shooting instead of being 100% lightsaber combat

[@boggo3848]

I can't believe how many review you have done! Every single retro game I can think of from my childhood, you have a video on it!

[@LightningBoltForever]

Being a huge lover of this game and having played it countless times, I can honestly say that you pretty much hit the nail on the head about every aspect of it. What I particularly liked about your review versus others I've seen is that you go in depth about, for instance, level design, storyline, and even Force Powers, rather than focus solely on the Lightsaber combat. Even so, I liked the honesty coming from this review and was pleased with your overall verdict. =)

[@KM-qx2qi]

I love your Walkthrough videos for DF/JK series and Prince of Persia (1989). Long Live the Old Games!

[@ocarinag33k]

This was the first video i ever saw from from you. I was hungover as fuck that morning and on deployment so time were rough, so these videos have pretty much been a part of my life since and i love em. Thanks dude

[@Regirs]

When old video game cinematic cut scenes are better written & more enjoyable to watch than all Disney SW releases combined...

[@Ojthemighty]

Thats a bit disturbing isnt it. I loved these JKDF2 cutscenes even with the hamed up lines gave it more charm i think. And it didnt take itself too seriously, it knew what it was and just rolled with it and it looked like the cast had fun doin it.

[@rodrigof.r.desouza3587]

Rogue One, Solo and The Mandalorian were fine additions to the SW universe IMO, and arguably the best stuff Disney did with the series. Yeah, Rogue One was basically a Dark Forces retcon, but at least it was a good one. However, the sequel trilogy... that's another story. Regarding these old games, like the Jedi Knight series or even The Force Unleashed, TBH I prefer them. Idk, but the whole Legends stuff (the old Expanded Universe) was far more interesting and fun and than the new canon. At the time, it also gave us the sense of something new in that universe, whereas this new canon stuff feels like "more of the same".

[@Ojthemighty]

@@rodrigof.r.desouza3587 any of the disney starwars dosnt hold a candle to when lucas was in charge. He had a few misses but over all the quality coming out under lucas was staggering.

[@nunyafockler5650]

For real. They tried to make video games into little mini movies. 💯💙

[@KM-qx2qi]

True - Instead of Disney Series, they could make Jedi Knight film series (DFII especially in Kubrick Style)

[@pippo17173]

I always love old games having live action scenes to them.

[@TSPH1992]

Why can't they make more games like this

[@Ojthemighty]

You cant beat an actual human acting

[@Setnochima]

@@TSPH1992 ever play any Remedy Games? Max Payne 1 & 2 used photographs of real people (with a "cartoon" filter on them) for the comic-style story screens; Alan Wake intermixed live-action footage with the 3D game world such as with TVs; and Contol uses live-action for video reels you find in the game

[@TSPH1992]

@@Setnochima never. Are they available through Steam or gog?

[@Setnochima]

@@TSPH1992 the 3 i listed are all on steam yes. Theyre all third person: Max Payne is an action shooter, Alan Wake is a thriller, Control is an action adventure. I also forgot to mention Quantum Break which just straight up has basically a TV show in the game lol

[@ReplyequalsNerd]

I grew up with this game, it made a deep impact on my life!

[@mikesgameroomreviews8253]

This is one of the first games I ever played and is still now of my favorites!

[@Ojthemighty]

Its a great first. Think my first or one of them was sonic on the mega drive when i was about 3. I remember playing much older games a couple years after on my dads and other peoples pcs, sonic and other sega games were my first exposure or was it math attack? Trying to remember that far back is hard when youre 29. You got me on a trip now.

[@aaronferrari-woodward4445]

my dad got this game back in 97 and now I'm playing it almost 20 years later, I've been playing it since I was about 7. One of my most favourite games ever

[@TTOTheTrueOne]

To be honest, I mostly ignore the lightsabre and go full shooter. Force Powers are used for support, like pull or heal.

[@-CrimsoN-]

Blasters are ideal even when you get the lightsaber, because Kyle doesn't become proficient with it until he gets to Ruusan. It's meant to imitate Luke Skywalker's progression as a Jedi in the original movies. Since in Star Wars Episode 4 he never uses the lightsaber at all and when he finally does use it in Episode 5 he gets his ass handed by Vader. It's not until Episode 6 that he is proficient in using it. The Jedi Knight games are very similar.

[@mitchellwooldridge5118]

Hey man! Great review of one of my favourite games of all time! Small correction: those monologues at the start of each boss battle are by Jedi Master Qu Rahn (who died at the start of the game), not Kyle's father. Keep the vids coming! :-)

[@deaconx]

This game is ahead of most Star Wars games to this day.

[@scrimpin-y9n]

When he kills Maw is genuinely a good scene.

[@TSPH1992]

In the books Kyle even roasted him by remembering him of the day that Rahn cut him in half with his display of form 1 lightsaber combat. After blocking sariss, wounding boc. Kyle might be Chuck Norris. But Rahn. Who was physically and mentally tortured still had enough fight left in him to best jerecs Dark Jedi and put jerec in a position where he had to blast him with force destruction. So there is a reason why Kyle became a badass protagonist

[@WhatWillYouFind]

The very end there with the lights flying all around our Jedi was cinematic gold. I wish more games today would capture the wonder and awe you can see in many of GG's reviews. Dark Forces 2 was a good game, it is a shame that it is so hard to get working on modern computers.

[@Komamuram]

Good review. I've actually used the sabre from 1st person view.

[@Ojthemighty]

Same. I prefer it.

[@GuardianStriker]

God. Such nostalgia. I think this was my first Star Wars game when I was just a little tot. Even though I didn't know what I was doing (e.g. just flat out jump out of the map) I still had loads of fun. :)

[@GuardianStriker]

Will you also review the "Mysteries of the Sith" expansion as well?

[@Surfxeo]

This is still my top favourite Star Wars game to date. Followed closely by Tie Fighter and Knights of the Old Republic. I don't know why they didn't create another Jedi Knight game where you had to chose either the Light side or the Dark side depending upon players actions. It adds a moral element to a game.

[@SamuraiGenkai]

Dosesn't jedi academy have that?

[@uncledibby]

Man you need to be the only reviewer on KZbin. CHAMPIONNNNN

[@daniellagant2093]

*sigh* back when the EU was still canon. those were the days.

[@Randoman590]

Hey, they're steadily bringing more and more back as and when it can fit. Big chunks of the Old Republic era and even Grand Admiral Thrawn are back into canon. Kyle is probably just a bit OP to bring back right now, maybe if they do a series between 6 and 7 he'll come back.

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Most of it WAS canon. The only things that weren't were Star Wars Infinities stuff like Skippy The Jedi Droid.

[@peppermillers8361]

If most of it was canon, than there would be a lot of messy plot details and such. The EU was semi canon, and honestly should've stayed that way (unless a piece contradicted the movies, then it wasn't).

[@ironinquisitor3656]

The EU wasn't messy. Read the Essential Readers Companion by Pablo Hildalgo and you will see what I mean. There was hardly any contradictions in the Old EU, and the ones that were there were easily fixed and explained by Lucasfilm a long long long time ago.

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

Well the EU still is the empire in reality though

[@Acantophis3rd]

In all honesty, Dark Forces 2 was my first Star Wars game experience as a teenager. I fell so in love, I even bought unofficial guidebooks and whatnot to elevate my gaming experience by finding secrets for that little extra force-star to become the uber Jedi. The level design is still a two sided cutting edge. I think you downplayed it a little, because one can get desperately lost in the levels, specially if someone plays it for first time.

[@Ojthemighty]

I never remember getting lost. I loved exploring it all. Still do

[@echobase6372]

One of the best games ever made in terms of level design.

[@Ojthemighty]

How dare you. In terms of god damn everything.

[@DavidHughesEire]

The version of the game I got came packaged with an expansion pack entitled "Mysteries of the Sith".. Does anyone else have experience of this expansion? Is it a stand alone game? I wonder if it's any good.. I'm going to search for a video review of it! If anyone could give me any information on it I'd be very happy.. May the Force be with you, from padawan Davey in Éire (Ireland) :P

[@brandonssherwood]

that actually how I got introduce to Jedi knight was the expansion. although the expansion I got the dark forces 2 was more a demo with 3 levels rather than 21 as a full game and mysteries of the sith had 14 levels. and yes it's a great game. it one of my favorites in the series and I like it better than dark forces 2 also my opinion

[@BluePieNinjaTV]

Mysteries of the Sith seems to have worse AI from the 10min or so I played compared to the base game

[@brandonssherwood]

I enjoyed it I thought it was a great game

[@nepnepnepnepnep]

i got it included with my game too. played until the last level. got scared shitless because of the new monsters and that i mainly use guns instead of the lightsaber and that guns dont work on the last level.

[@brandonssherwood]

Blaze Eternity yea it was was actually the last 3 levels you couldn't use guns on. Also the light saber battle on 12th level against dark Mara there's a trick I did on her every time not using cheat codes. I use to jump into pool where you come to meet her and have her follow me behind and jump out and she'd drown herself and I use to beat her that way

[@DavidHughesEire]

Thanks for this review! I'm a HUGE Star Wars fan, and for whatever reason, I missed this gane first time around.. Only got it there today after watching your review, and I'm about to stick it on now.. Gonna be DEADLY! Thanks again for the review, it made me REALLY want the game, so much so that I had to get myself a copy! All the best from Davey in Éire (Ireland) :)

[@ChipLinck]

Ah yes, I remember this game, and the age of live actors in cut scenes. I was glad when that ended. I always thought it broke the flow of the game to have cut scenes that looked so vastly different than the game itself.

[@evertongabriel8859]

My uncle gave me this game when I was a kid. For me it was better than the movies. Rather be a Jedi than watch one for sure! great game and great review, keep it up!

[@MrBoBoTom]

The thing I like about this is even when you become a Jedi, it can still be preferable to use other weapons beside the light-saber. It's way overpowered in Outcast/Academy and the actual shooting is terrible compared to Dark Forces II.

[@gameragodzilla]

The shooting in Outcast and Academy is fine. The main thing that makes the combat trickier is the fact that enemies move around a lot, and much faster than they did in Jedi Knight, so you end up missing a lot more often. Luckily you move faster too, so it’s easier to just run up to them, dodging shots, and hitting at closer range is much easier.

[@PinkFloydrulez]

When I was a kid playing this, the lightsaber is all I wanted out of the game and it's pretty much all I used. Revisiting it as an adult though, the lightsaber play felt a bit clunky and I surprisingly had WAY more fun blazing through and rarely letting off the trigger

[@danabass1957]

Thanks for your quick and to the point review.Just picked this up and rebel assault 2 at the thrift store. I remember seeing these as a kid and wanting to play them. Should be fun!

[@RepublicTrooper125]

Could you review Shadows of the Empire?

[@warriorlink8612]

I got this for Christmas in 1997, absolutely LOVED this game. I have played it through fully more times than i can remember. I have played as light and dark side. and yes, you can unlock all powers as long as you pick your side early. You can add stars to light and dark, but once you pick a side, you lose the stars and powers of the opposite side. So, if you do light, only add stars to light. Also, you can get all of the stars if you find EVERY secret area. Some of the secret areas are so much fun to uncover (clombing around the outside of skyscrapers on narrow ledges!). Fun game, i really want this ported to Playstation or Switch!

[@powruser0]

I was SO hoping you'd do this game! this is my favorite game of ALL time! I spent so many hours as a kid playing the multiplayer on the ign gaming zone, playing custom levels/mods. a standout game indeed. great sp campaign as well. a pain to get running on windows 8 though. I haven't been able to get hardware acceleration working even with workarounds that I had used when running the game on win7.

[@Falstad0077]

New Disney canon means Kyle Katarn doesn't exist :c

[@fotakatos]

+Falstad007 Yeah, well, to me nothing but the old movies and the video games exist. Disney and JJ can go fuck themselves.

[@Randoman590]

Hey, they brought Thrawn back in Rebels. Maybe they'll restore Kyle at some point down the road.

[@ps3andrhcp]

Yeah, Disney killed the lore so bad that I dislike Episode VII. They killed the best of the EU including KOTOR so fuck them. My head-canon is what matters.

[@meditatednut3336]

Falstad007 sorry to say but it was never really canon. Plus, hes not even that great of a character.

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Sorry to say it, but you're wrong, the old EU was canon Lucasfilm said so in star wars insider repeatedly over the past 20 years. And before you pull out that George Lucas Starlog quote he never said nything about canon in that quote.

[@ricardodpraca]

Bought it last week on a thrift shop for 40cent with the Mysteries of the Sith Expansion included. Awesome game!

[@australiangamers]

One of my favourite FPS of all time. nice review!

[@Crowley9]

It's weird, I have one two separate occasions come across Jerec's actor in something else, and instantly went "He looks familiar." How do I recognize an actor when his eyes were always covered when he stuck to my mind?

[@StillTheVoid]

Happy 20th anniversary to one of the greatest star wars game of all time!!!

[@AngryCalvin]

When I think of 90's gaming I think of this game, MechWarrior 3, and Baldurs Gate II. I think of many others also but those 3 probably give me the most powerful memories of greatness.

[@lucasng9617]

OMG. I loved this game back in the day. What impresses me the most is that this review calls it retro and the review itself is almost 10 years old hahah.

[@brpadington]

Wish Rogeu one would have been a film of Dark Forces. How awesome would that have been?

[@Ojthemighty]

Ah but you see, disney dosnt want awesome. They'd rather put politics over substance and all stuff radical. But yes i still yearn for more like df2

[@PhantomWolf7]

5:13 It's not kyle's father talks to Kyle about Jerec's dark jedi, but but qu rahn the ghost of the jedi who died in the intro cutscene.

[@bgm1975]

Absolutely one of my all time favorite games, and I still own my original disc. I even burned a copy of the soundtrack from the disc, one of the best mix of John Williams' score and featured music that had never been released at the time.

[@Ojthemighty]

Same. I still have both discs. How do u get the music off them onto another disc?

[@brenntantor1634]

*Correction:* 5:06 The monologues are from Jedi Master Rahn, NOT Morgan Katarn. :)

[@Hogis__]

Nice review, I remember playing this as a kid and this video certainly gave some flashbacks. How about reviewing the Max Payne trilogy some day?

[@jimbones0]

Great review. One more interesting tidbit: this game marks the first time live action Star Wars scenes were filmed after the creation of the original trilogy as this game predates production on the prequels.

[@th3lonef0x4]

The guy playing Kyle seems like a good actor.

[@Ojthemighty]

I always liked him as kyle

[@brandonssherwood]

I just checked to see if u did a review because I just found your channel today. I was a little disappointed you didn't do a mystery of the site review which was a great spin-off to the dark forces series. I was gonna ask a request if you'd be able to do it sometime on your spare time? I have played game before but I like to hear others opinions on what they think as well

[@CruxisFire]

This game was my preteen years and THE reason why I wanted the internet to go head to head online with lightsabers. Perhaps Jedi Outcast plays better, but the story and happenings here were far more interesting to me. I just wish I can find my physical copy because the Steam version and its lack of music (without hard, hard work that isn't a complete fix) is a pain in the ass. Excellent review.

[@kopakatoaofcool8536]

This is severely underrated I played this game a year ago and it's really fun

[@dallesamllhals9161]

Hmm, bought Big Box in 1997 and again DVD-size(what's it called?) in 2003, 'cause I thought i'd lost the first one..(I hadn't = 2 x 2 CD-ROMs = happy to this day)

[@legionofpie]

Did you ever review the expansion pack for this one?

[@TraceVandal]

Great review, you get a sub from me. This was one of the fist games that I ever played online. It was crude as shit being on dial up and all that but I'm pretty sure I put more hours into Jedi Knight than any other game.

[@SDK2K9]

Ok some time ago I never knew that they carried on the with the Dark Forces series. In fact I remember wishing they carried on after the first Dark Forces game but I never knew they did because they changed the title of the series to Jedi Knight. In fact I remember this one time I bought Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast for the Xbox and when I found out I was playing as Kyle Katarn. I was like "Wait you mean the guy you play as from the first Dark Forces game?". So yeah I looked up the game on the internet and much to my surprise to find it was actually a sequel to Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 (Never knew that game existed back then either). After that I was like "I can't believe it, they actually made more Dark Forces games"......So yeah that's pretty much how that went for me.

[@ThEMarD]

Heyyo, very true! Another thing of note is Lucasarts were big advocates of widescreen, thus it is great at detecting system's supported resolutions and is probably the first game I can think of with widescreen resolution support :)

[@der_peevmeister]

5:09 “And each one of these fights starts off with a monologue from Kyle’s father.” Qu Rahn: “Am I nothing to you?”

[@michaelflanigan3481]

Is Mysteries of the Sith next? This game right here is one of my absolute favorite games ever.

[@Lalaxbo]

This game was one of the most fun Star Wars and PC games i have ever played and the whole Jedi Knightseries like Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy . They sure don't make Star Warsgames like this anymore . I had a fun time playing this game :)

[@iamram93]

Sick reviews mate, I subscribed. Do you play these games through to completion? Would you also ever consider rating games out of 10 at the end of a review?

[@Gggmanlives]

Yeah I play all of my games until I finish them. Unless it's something that is MP only where I just put enough hours in until I've made a decision. I don't really believe in a score system tbh.

[@iamram93]

Awesome, well I look forward to your reviews! One question I have though is that do you ever get tired of FPS games as they seem to have the same repetitive formula sometimes? I've always loved FPS games growing up but now I've been feeling like they have been a chore. After seeing your Deus Ex review I decided to give it a shot and I have to say it was a very enjoyable experience. More so then what I played recently like Crysis 3 and Deadspace 1. I just couldn't get into them as they felt very repetitive with the forumula of going from point A to B. I think I may also try the Sin games based on your reviews. Would suggest anything out of the ordinary?

[@MetalGamer666]

Gggmanlives The only score system I believe in, is a negative/neutral/positive sort of scale. But I guess that's sort of what you do, only in other words.

[@iamram93]

Not a single quick reply from Gggmanlives was seen that day

[@Gggmanlives]

Tyler Newton Sorry! What was the question again? Do I ever get bored of FPS? Sure, but I play other games as well.

[@MilenioOscuroComics]

Playing it right now, excellent review!

[@blacksamurai76]

Damn this is almost better than Battlefront 3!!!

[@noahbowers2098]

Of course it is... Battlefront 3 doesn't exist

[@TitanicTitan26]

Uh, yeah, it does, it's just not called Battlefront 3.

[@blacksamurai76]

That was the point of my comment.

[@violenceisbad6705]

There is no battlefront 3... Unless you count Galaxy in Turmoil. But that's not finished yet.

[@TitanicTitan26]

Low Grit Sandpaper Star Wars Battlefront, released last year. THe third Battlefront game.

[@markbirchall8225]

This game was so ahead of it's time. A developer would make a fortune if they remade this.

[@MidnightMedium]

@gmanlives ever play the expansion, Mysteries of the Sith?

[@janmovie83]

was an awsome game! Thnx for the review. Will have to play that one again! Loved it at that time!!!

[@F2bnp]

I absolutely love this game. This was my first foray into the Star Wars universe (it was only later that I saw the prequel trilogy). One of my favorites on my old Pentium 1 :). Was this your first time playing and beating it?

[@Gggmanlives]

No I finished it a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. When I was a kid actually.

[@MetalGamer666]

I loved this game as well. It changed my preference for FPS games. I like all the Jedi Knight games, but this one is special as it is the first one of its kind. I remember how we used to play it at LAN parties. Good times.

[@Aiden.Stinkhorn]

Is it the Quake engine? I'm almost sure LucasArts developed a proprietary engine specifically for the game.

[@MaximilianoAedo]

It's the Sith engine. LucasArts used id Tech 3 for Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy.

[@Aiden.Stinkhorn]

@@MaximilianoAedo . I thought as much, thanks for clearing that up.

[@Ojthemighty]

Great level design, great characters, weapons feel good, enemies are fun, wonderful art direction and the sound design is seared into my brain, there jut something about it that hits the spot. Been playing it since it came out and it never gets old. Just wish there was still a way to play online. I was too young and my parents didn't have that set up when i was a kid

[@JoshMC2000]

What source port you use for this and Mystery's of the Sith

[@weaponxx9467]

Dark Forces takes place just before A New Hope (mission 1), with the rest of the game taking place 1 year after A New Hope(1-1.5 years after the battle of Yavin, or ABY for short). Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight takes place a year after The Return of the Jedi (5 years ABY). Even without Emperor Palpatene the Empire was a mega force to be reckoned with and it makes a lot of sense that it would take the rebellion close to five more years to wrestle control of the galaxy from them. The add-on missions Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight - Mysteries of the Sith takes place around 9.5-10 years ABY (Either immediately after the Thrawn trilogy of books or right before the Dark Empire graphic novel trilogy from the early nineties). Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast takes place 12 years ABY and Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy takes place 14 years ABY which places both of the two later games during and after the Jedi Academy trilogy of books from the early nineties. Did ya'll not have any of the expanded universe stories Down-under? They were kinda cannon here in the States until Disney happened to the timeline.

[@lgjhmovies]

nice review as always. can you also try to review the serious sam games?

[@Gggmanlives]

Yeah I'm playing through TFE atm.

[@lurkerrekrul]

The demo for this game was one of the FPS games I ever played and I loved it. I played the demo so much that when I eventually got the full game, I was able to just breeze through that level. The only one that really gave me any trouble was the falling ship level. I needed a walkthrough to figure out how to get through that one. Kyle's turn to the dark side, if you go that way, felt pretty forced. I also wasn't fond of the fact that Force Jump had to be bound to its own key rather than just replacing the normal jump. Plus, I'm pretty sure that one of the secrets in one level is unreachable if you haven't upgraded Force Jump. You said that the game blocks you from using force powers in the fight with Jerec, but just a few moments before you have video of yourself using Force Protection against him. When I played the dark side path, I kept using Force Destruction (I think that's what it's called) on him. Tip for others; When playing this, decide early whether you want to take the light side or the dark, because once you hit the turning point in the game, the other side's Force power will be off-limits and any points you put into them will be wasted. You take the dark side by killing innocent NPCs. Fun tip for the fight with Boc; If you've taken the dark side and upgraded Force Throw, you can go into the bunker-like areas, Force Jump on top of one of the ledges and when Boc comes in looking for you, you can just keep using Force Throw to bash him to death with debris. Sure it's cheap, but there's also something satisfying about sitting up there where he can't reach you and just throwing junk at him. :) Also, for those who think the game looks too old, there is an enhancement pack you can download that gives it better models and textures.

[@someguy8951]

That is alot of writing well done man

[@SpitfireSama21]

Damn I remember watching my father play this, the level under water still make me feel uneasy to this day lol

[@ringusdingus420]

4:11. best. level. in any video game. ever.

[@raphaelhanna8345]

this may be a weird question but what is your accent it sounds australian to me

[@spiritgum]

Didn't realize the game featured a branching path. Makes it that much more appealing to me.

[@SAClassHunterZero]

The fact that the dark side has absolutely no health-giving powers, combined with the fact that Protection isn't just OP, but compared to Deadly Sight it's pretty much the best and worst powers, it all adds up to the light side being the REAL quick and easy path, hahaha. Did I mention protection doesn't have a MINIMUM COST? You can cast it as long as you have 1 mana. And it will always give you 300 hit points of protection; it's just the duration that's affected by how much mana you had when you activated protection.

[@DeathStrikeVirus]

This is still one of my absolute favorite games. You can mod it to make it look better. I play it at least once a year.

[@YoStu242]

I remember thinking that blocky polygon graphics looked ugly to me even back then and DF1 looked much better lol

[@rodrigof.r.desouza3587]

Same for me. The original Dark Forces is still one of my favorite SW games.

[@R3GARnator]

I can only imagine you guys horror at Final Fantasy 7's graphics.

[@richterdelgan123]

@@R3GARnator ff7 uses nice models in combat

[@UnchainedEruption]

I prefer Dark Forces original for a number of reasons, but Jedi Knight is a worthy successor. The best part about it is just how well the lightsaber combat is nailed in terms of gameplay. At first I thought the boss sections against the Dark Jedi would be too hard (I just spammed thermal detonators against the first boss) but gradually I learned how to get good at dueling, and once you do it’s so satisfying. It feels really authentic too. You actually have to move the cursor/lightsaber in the opposite direction to parry, and you have to dodge just as much as blocking to stay alive. The fights are challenging, feel really immersive, and are loads of fun. The Force Powers are also really cool, but force heal is too OP if you max it out. You’re pretty much indestructible. The map design is as good as in the first game. They’re long but not too long. There is plenty of variation, and a lot of the levels have nice puzzles you have to solve, so you’re actually having to think as much as shoot up the troopers. Despite the newer shooting mechanics, it feels just like how it did in the first game. The FMV cutscenes are imo better than even modern games because it actually has real people acting alongside the CG (which in and of itself blows away the cutscenes from DF1). It feels like I’m watching a movie. A couple criticisms would be that the new save system is kind of annoying. If you forget to quick save in a while you have to go way back so you have to remember to manually save quite often. It also takes a way a little of the tension I feel. In Dark Forces 1, each life was valuable and dying meant one life closer to restarting the whole level. You couldn’t afford to mess up. In this game, you can pretty much die infinite times and you’ll be fine as long as you saved recently. Often times I’d find myself intentionally committing suicide just so I could go back to some place or get my health back. A minor issue, but along with the OP force heal does kind of break the difficulty in the game. Also, the Kell Dragons aren’t really as challenging as before In Jabba’s ship, you had to face them bare-handed with no weapons, which was terrifying. In this game you have all your gear so you can just spam the concussion rifle or grenade launcher from a distance and they won’t even approach you. The Kell Dragon was too easy in this game. Other than those two criticisms, fantastic game.

[@nateedwards1313]

Uh... actually, it runs on the SITH engine

[@Takoji]

The first Star Wars game I ever played. 👌🏼

[@getdrippy4416]

I had no idea this game had story or cut scenes. The copy I played as a kid was pirated.

[@jumpy.]

I'm guessing you just recently played it for the first time. In the late 90s when it came out, the most fun part of the game were all of the mods available and playing it on the Microsoftgamingzone. Some way ahead of its time mods like DBZ and then other fun ones that make it rpg and add more Sabers and force powers

[@benjackman4814]

Bro these mods are still available to play right? Also the level editor? I wanna make my own star wars platforming levels lol

[@theyautjawarrior6652]

Bit of lore trivia, the Valley of the Jedi is located on the planet Ruusan, which was the location of the final battle for The New Sith Wars, a thousand years before Phantom Menace. This is the planet where Darth Bane meticulously eradicated all the other Sith in the galaxy, and simultaneously created his own Sith order, which would last for a thousand years, and that Palpatine would become drafted into. All the souls that Kyle released were the souls of over 100 Jedi and Sith who were trapped in that location after the Sith leader, Lord Kaan, activated a force construct called the Thought Bomb, which not only trapped the Jedi and Sith, but also disintegrated every force sensitive being within a few miles of it's radius. Another unnecessary geek fact, Darth Bane manipulated Kaan into using the Thought Bomb so the Sith would be wiped out, and Bane got the plans to the Thought Bomb, from the holocron of none other than DARTH REVAN.

[@ironinquisitor3656]

Wish that amazing lore was still canon.

[@jonathanjollimore7156]

Truly underrated shooter

[@route77productions]

No one ever talks about this game, not even in the underrated lists. That's a damn shame.

[@this_connor_guy]

This was my favorite in the series. :)

[@Lead_Foot]

The best part about this game was playing it online in gamespy arcade over dial up in elementary school. Mods were cool too and worked in multiplayer.

[@badsectoracula]

Jedi Knight is among my favourite FPS games because of its level design that sometimes had you solving puzzles (especially in the expansion) - and i played it for the first time only a few years ago! A small correction though: the game uses the Sith Engine, which is (AFAIK) a completely new engine for the game that was later used in the Indiana Jones and the Infernal machine, a Pit Droids game for kids and parts of it in the GrimE engine for Grim Fandago :-). I wonder if the new Grim Fandago remake contains any bits of code from the Sith Engine :-P

[@compmanio36]

Someone made a mod to help get this game installed on Win 7 x64. Played through this again not too long ago and while it looks like it's age, it's one of the better Jedi Knight games out there.

[@DarkXaven]

As someone who has beaten the game and found all secrets, I can say this. You can get enough stars to max out all Force powers, except for one, which will be one star short.

[@Dxtrrr]

This game came out one year after Duke Nukem 3D and at the same year as Blood.. Lucas Arts truly did a great job with the engine

[@MarioFanaticXV]

If you get every single secret in the game, you'll have 31 stars for Force powers- one less than the amount required to max out the powers of your chosen path (Light or Dark).

[@therealchickentender]

Still my favorite. Played the multiplayer for years. Was one of a kind.

[@TSPH1992]

I am currently playing this game. Theres no hand holding and you need to learn how to play it and unlock the secret areas to get force powers. Patience is a virtue. But for a game released in 1997 it has a lot of content and a good story, character development