GGO Upgrading from Victorinox Forester to Camper

[@cecilebeaujouan9309]

Belle vidéo merci beaucoup pour ta vidéo très sympa

[@josephtortona824]

Yep! we have the same problem with our Leatherman PS, the rod that keeps the scissors on my PS open also snapped!

[@tecnotrog1]

My EDC is the SAK Spartan. Love it 🦉

[@GregMilner]

I have the Hiker. Very similar. One thing I do is I have a leather lanyard tied to the split ring and when I saw I can wrap it tight around the base of the saw one loop and that keeps it from folding up on my. Try it.

[@johnossendorf9979]

I'v EDCed my Swiss Champ for 36 years. It has saved the day many times !

[@amk8411]

I have a Swiss Champ but it is too bulky for a pocket. It stays at home but gets the most use. I EDC a Climber. Do you keep your Champ in a bag?

[@johnossendorf9979]

@@amk8411 My Swiss Champ has been in my right front pocket next to my wallet nearly every day since 1985. I loved it from the first day, so I don't remember it ever being a burden. I wear carpenter pants the vast majority of the time and for the last 4 or 5 years also EDCed a Gerber Gator 154CM in the tool pocket on my right leg. I'd rather have them and not need them, than need them and not have them.

[@bıçaklar_Aletler]

My Edc Use S.A.K. Victorinox Tourist.

[@randallkelley3599]

Scissors are under appreciated. Use the ones on me Hunter more than blade. Bought the Hunter in 1977, and still carry it.

[@johnossendorf9979]

You've got me beat, I'v only been carrying my Swiss Champ nearly every day since I bought it new in 1985.

[@toolslover3645]

Forester best i love ❤

[@madmax13326]

Think your Forester model is a retired model called the Rucksack model. The Forester was recently introduced and basically a rebranded Rucksack model without the slide lock.

[@geeksgooutdoors]

Interesting...

[@xrysoryba]

I thought you were going to talk about converting your Forester to the 111mm version of the Camper. You can do this easily by replacing the scale with the slide lock with one from a 111mm liner lock model. They are reasonably priced on Ebay. This makes the knife into a slip joint model. I'm not sure about blade length under UK law though.

[@Beowulf_98]

Under 3 inches.

[@qui-gone]

Only UK law makers can think that the blade snapping off your fingers is a good idea and any safety mechanism against such snapping is "illegal" or dangerous. Good video, given your constraints. I personally carried a pioneer for urban EDC when I was in Europe and a Huntsman when I was in the outdoors. Norway is quite more lenient than Britain though. Big fixed blades for outdoors are a norm. I should recommend the Huntsman which also has scissors on top of your Camper.

[@dennisleighton2812]

The Lawmakers here are so Ultra-Woke about anything that MIGHT just be used as a weapon! We're expecting a ban on hammers any day now! 😉😉 Why anyone with even just 2 brain cells would think of using a SAK to do grievous bodily harm is beyond rational thinking. If one wanted to do this the average kitchen drawer would have a dozen better weapons, and with their intention in mind, they would not worry about legality anyway! It's absurd!

[@mjdegrey4843]

If you use a slip-joint model knife properly, it will not snap off in your fingers. I agree with what you are saying, the knife laws in the UK are bloody stupid.

[@name5949]

At 635 when I bought this for someone else 🤣😂🤣😂 it's for yourself really 🤫 it's so funny because I say the very same thing I've got that many multi tools Swiss army knifes people think I'm nuts and i say to my friends do you like the new Swiss army knife i got for my friend 🤫😂🤣 love it fantastic EDC I've had a Swiss army knife of some sort in my pocket for over 30 yaers 👌 thanks for sharing this one with us 👍

[@geeksgooutdoors]

:-)

[@stevesinclair4159]

Happy Thursday GGO, sorry for the late comment . I have Liked your video & subscribed to your channel, I am Subscriber #32, wishing you good luck in growing your channel. I understand the inequities of UK knife laws & their detrimental effect on law abiding UK tax payers whilst having no effect on criminals & Jihadists. I am a native Londoner who left the UK many decades ago & immigrated to Israel & reside in Tel Aviv. We have no such restrictions on knife carry here in Israel & as such I have a number of knives that you cannot own & certainly not carry in the UK. I am myself a lifelong SAK user & collector ever since I was a schoolboy in London back when knife crime & gun crime was negligible & every schoolboy had a pocket knife to sharpen his pencils, dig holes in conkers & carve a heart with his & his girlfriends initials on a tree in the park. I don't own a Forester but I do own & carry a 111mm Garant as part of my Gentleman's knife EDC ( consisting of 93mm Pioneers, X's & 84mm Cadets ) and the only Camper that I own is a collectable NutSAK version bought from Tortoise Gear the maker of the Firefly ferro rods, Fire Ant rods & tinder spirals . My choice for PTK ( Pocket Tool Kit ) in place of a Gentleman's knife is a modified Huntsman with black Plus scales, Firefly rod in place of the toothpick , tinder coil & mini-screwdriver on the corkscrew & fitted with a SwissQlip for convenient pocket carry, my alternate PTK is the 85mm Evolution EvoGrip S17 ( also with Firefly rod, tinder coil & mini-screwdriver ) which fits into the ticket pocket of my jeans. The S17 & S18 which I also own are of course illegal in the UK due to their blade lock . I own a lot of other SAK's including similarly decked out Huntsmen & Climbers with different colour plus scales, my home tool kit is a Deluxe Tinker with plus scales & I have a large number of other, 58mm, 84mm, 85mm, 91mm & 93mm's both collectables & those that I occasionally use ( such as the Explorer, Compact, Bantam, Mountaineer, Midnite Mini-Champ, & the rare discontinued Motorist). In addition I carry on my key chain the 58mm Midnight Manager & I have on order the 111mm Outrider in black with the pre-2017 side slide lock, which is IMO the 111mm equivalent of the Huntsman

[@geeksgooutdoors]

Looks like you like the SAK. I've only ever had a few in my lifetime. The problem is they last too long ;-) I think a knife and a tool is the best combiantion, although I tend to only carry one or the other. Thanks for commenting and subscribing.

[@stevesinclair4159]

​@@geeksgooutdoors Happy Saturday. SAK's are built to last but since they are relatively affordable its easy to have a small collection of different types for different uses & other than the 58mm Midnite Manager on my keyring and the 91mm Deluxe Tinker on my computer desk at home, I rotate my Gentleman's knives & my PTK's ( Pocket Tool Kits ) SAK's daily, as they say variety is the spice of life.

[@geeksgooutdoors]

@@stevesinclair4159 Actually you're correct - every time I look at a SAK I'm always pleasantly surpised by the (low) price...

[@stevesinclair4159]

​@@geeksgooutdoors The best value for money SAK IMO is the 4 layer Huntsman as it covers both urban & outdoors tool needs ( I have 5 in different colours including a collectable ) and it comes in a variety of scales( 7 or 8 ) & the least value for money SAK IMO is the 2 layer Compact which comes in boring red scales ( its impossible to find the black scales model ) . I've done the math's and if you only need an urban EDC don't buy the Compact as its cheaper to buy a 3 layer Climber ( I have 2 ) & fit it with Plus scales of any of the 6 Plus scale colours available on Ebay and the additional layer is barely noticeable in your pocket . I have in addition to upgrading my Huntsman & Climbers with Plus scales, ferro rod, tinder spirals & mini-screwdrivers begun adding the SwissQlip to them ( 4 fitted so far )

[@michaelmerrick5472]

Sad. Although I do like the Camper. I carry a Walker but want to have the reamer /awl.

[@HorZe2611]

Have you considered a Spyderco UKPK? Its a one hand opening non locking slipjoint knife. I carry mine along with an leatherman style PS and an vic rambler.

[@geeksgooutdoors]

Good call. I like to keep things simple so prefer to carry only one tool at a time. The Style PS for work days and the Camper for walking/hiking...

[@HorZe2611]

@@geeksgooutdoors Maybe a Vic Evolution 17 could also be considered? Same size and Tools plus some sissors but you would still have a locking blade

[@geeksgooutdoors]

@@HorZe2611 Interesting - never seen the Evolution 17 before. Might have been off my radar because of the blade lock though...

[@Watcherrye]

Victorinox Swiss Army, does not make a Wood Carving knife that has two carving blades, a saw, and a large roughing blade. Blades that have 58 or better Rockwell hardness or 440 or better stainless steel. Just three slots (not sure what they are called) handles. that are rounded for comfort, with locking blades. Folded no more than 3 1/2 inches long. If all the carvers out there will unite and keep bugging Vicky about it, I am sure they will listen.

[@viktorcsanyi726]

You may cut your fingers with that tiny unlockable, but hey, at least you can do it full legally! :)

[@Beowulf_98]

If you use a slip joint right it won't cut your fingers I've carried non lockers for years never had them fold on my fingers. Real men know how to use a knife.

[@MokuNui808]

Maybe a handyman to have the saw and scissors in one? Or for a smaller package maybe the huntsman? Or to up it and get a bit posh maybe the farmer x? 😆

[@apmikalogran]

Farmer x only for the appeal

[@unteldanslemonde2423]

Rendu là, choisi le Huntsman 🇨🇭👌

[@stevedriscoll2539]

Oh my God (dang: and I don't mean dang as much as I mean the more extreme version of dang). It's hard to believe that's where we're going here in the U.S. (with the extreme measures of control).

[@stephenmackey4571]

Alox farmer x excellent knife and uk legal.

[@brianbartulis9709]

My Huntsman has a tiny hold in the scale, accessed after opening the corkscrew. It's to store a straight pin. Pretty handy to use with the tweezers removing a splinter. Yeah them UK knife laws are odd. If worried about cutting yourself while having to pierce/cut tough rubber hose, etc... .. there are cheap woven Kevlar gloves on the market. They are great for cuts but not a puncture..so there's that. Some of them gloves even come rubber coated for more grip. ie; of the simple Kevlar glove material we had at work.. I needed a small piece of cloth to replace a clogged air filter on an air operated agitator. Too loud without a filter. ~ Using a fresh razor blade out of the cardboard...I pulled the glove tight to cut off the thumb of the glove. I'll be damned if I didn't have to saw the razor blade a bunch to cut through. twas kinda cool. heck, if someone pulled a knife on me I'd be able to grab the blade and pull it from their hand. tips me hat ~ I peeked at amazon uk and there's a slough of cut resistant gloves of all sorts. I searched knit Kevlar gloves. Dupont are the ones than created Kevlar methinks. So perhaps tougher? I've used the ones/still do...with the rubber poka dots.

[@geeksgooutdoors]

The pinhole is there on most of the SAK with the plastic scales that have been sold over the last few years...I think. Definately have seen the "cut proof" gloves on Amazon and other places...

[@marcdee4427]

Have you looked at the boker tech tool range ?

[@geeksgooutdoors]

I have not seen those for sale in the UK. I tend to only buy stuff I have seen/held... Will keep my eyes open though.

[@gadgetgus]

Better quality and value gorgeous money 👍

[@cecilebeaujouan9309]

Pour ma part j'utilise le contact le contact me permet de beaucoup d'activités mais je suis un fan des couteaux suisses j'ai aussi énormément de couteau suisse

[@benbrown5159]

The UK knife laws are truly outdated, and need to be changed. Start a petition and get it to your elected representative. Maybe you can be part of the movement to modernize the knife laws there.

[@warrenpomphrey4477]

Once,they were Knights.

[@Beowulf_98]

​@@warrenpomphrey4477 that was 700 years ago..... What's your point.

[@TheStoyanbahchevanov]

Hi, good selection of tools. For the 90mm victorinox I have made a lock that can be used when you needed and it's separate from the knife. It's very easy to make with some basic tools. I have made video it's on my channel, check it out. Cheers.

[@geeksgooutdoors]

I'll have a look...

[@cecilm3720]

I am intrigued and will check it out. I have a Camper and am thinking of upgrading to a locking SAK. Maybe not anymore…

[@SpaceDave3000]

I like the SAK Pioneer Alox personally, you might enjoy the Farmer X Alox. I coupled it with a Leatherman PS2, especially in England. I think simplicity is key for multitools, too many functions and you have something which doesn't do any of them well. I live in the US now, so anything goes regarding blades. It's actually quite nice assuming you can avoid the incessant hail of gunfire.

[@geeksgooutdoors]

I've handled the PS2 and thought it was too heavy for day-to-day carry, but for working likely a great tool. SAK Pioneer looks good, the Farmer looks just slightly too wide? Never held one though. Thanks for the comments.

[@simonh6371]

@@geeksgooutdoors The Farmer is actually 0.5mm thinner at 17mm thick, than the Camper at 17.5mm thick, despite having an extra layer (scissors). This is because the Alox scales are thinner than the celidor/plastic scales. I would like one but I am waiting for the price to drop, at the moment you won't get one for under 50 quid. I got the Farmer last year for just £23, they've now increased to minimum £35. If I carry that with a Leatherman Squirt PS4 I have a full toolset albeit in smaller form. Or I carry the Squirt with a Hiker (Camper with Phillips in place of corkscrew). The only slight compromise is that Victorinox scissors are just a bit better than Leatherman scissors. If I go camping I put a Soldier (with a longer locking blade) in my rucksack with all my other gear, it's similar to the Forester. The saw on those larger SAKs is longer and better than on any Leatherman.

[@geeksgooutdoors]

@@simonh6371 Thanks for the info. I@ve never had an Alox handled SAK. I guess I like the calssic look better? Does a Alox SAK feel cold when the temperature drops?

[@simonh6371]

@@geeksgooutdoors I never really thought about the alox handles being colder but yes for a second or two it's colder to touch, but the heat of your hand warms it rapidly. I like SAKs in general and also like the Classic looks, I like black scales the most. A lot of people pair up an alox like Famer/Pioneer with a small SAK like the Classic to have scissors which are very capable for their size, and the tweezers and toothpick. The Classic is so tiny you hardly notice it until you need it.

[@FreedomFox1]

The Pioneer X is a very popular edc in the US. Alox is rugged, classy, easy to clean and excellent scissors. The alox is heavier but thinner than standard SAK’s, so there is that trade off. Go with the farmer or farmer x, if you want the saw.

[@johnhill6673]

What is UK law regarding kitchen knives? Do chefs and cooks require special licenses for chef knives?

[@nadtechnology]

Kitchen knives are fine...in the kitchen. They are fine coming home from the knife shop to home/kitchen. They may be OK in your campervan..if they are with the other cooking stuff. Stuffed down the side of the driver seat, no not OK. They are not OK out of context. BUT that's down to the officer on the day. You are guilty unless you can convince otherwise... At least that's how I undertstand it. I am not a lawyer.

[@vasyapupkin9927]

Сочувствую, братан. А преступность то уменьшилась после запрета?

[@geeksgooutdoors]

I haven't looked at the statistics...

[@ironman2326]

No offense but I'm glad the USA doesn't have those silly knife laws.

[@toddguillory692]

Knife laws suck.... Here in Texas we can carry Machetes if we wish to...guns also...

[@geeksgooutdoors]

The current UK knife laws were introduced for specific reasons. The problem (as I understanding it, and bear in mind I am not a lawyer) is that the exemptions are all subject to opinion, so you can never be *sure* what you are doing is compliant with law...

[@michaelmerrick5472]

Just what are the "specific reasons"?

[@geeksgooutdoors]

@@michaelmerrick5472 It was an increase in knife crime as best as I can remember..

[@Alexanbreizh]

@@geeksgooutdoors Well, in France, the law absolutely forbid you to carry any kind of blade; except, the law also says you can ...🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪 The story behind it is that carrying a knife is considered to be part of the french culture. So Unless you obviously intend to use it as a weapon, you should not get into trouble. Now on the other end, if you are carrying a machete in a public bus, you may arouse suspicion. It is going to be difficult to explain that you just need it to spread butter on your baguette ...

[@omarkharnivall2439]

Nice video, but please stop smacking your lips so often

[@rodyep3136]

Maybe someday the Europeans will rise up and take their countries back from oppressive governments then you'll be able to have your knives back. Good video.

[@Beowulf_98]

What are you talking about, we can carry almost any knife you just need a reason if you don't you just carry a non locker.

[@rajeevprabhu6722]

They are alll the same...

[@viktorcsanyi726]

Except that one is forbidden by law and the other is not if you pay more attention on the context.

[@cecilebeaujouan9309]

Y no😊😊

[@alejandrosanchez7673]

UK knife Laws Suck!!