Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire - The Weekly Planet Podcast

James' greatest enemy, Ghostbusters, has returned in the form of a Frozen Empire. But is it more of the same or something new for the Sony Ghost Corps Ghostbusters IP/content farm? Before that though we talk the news of the week with some big Disney business drama, the future of AI in film along with the Late Night with The Devil controversy, Teen Titans getting a DCU entry, the potential next James Bond, trailers for Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga Trailer, The Acolyte Star Wars Trailer, House of the Dragon S2 Trailers, Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, Alien: Romulus and a whole lot more! Thanks for listening
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00:00 The Start
02:30 Disney Big Business Drama
06:24 Late Night with The Devil AI Controversy
10:24 Future of AI in Hollywood Meeting
15:21 Teen Titan's Live Action Movie
16:41 New James Bond is Aaron Taylor-Johnson?
21:10 Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga Trailer
23:17 The Acolyte Star Wars Trailer
26:39 House of the Dragon S2 Trailers
28:45 Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra Game Trailer
31:49 Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Trailer
33:16 Alien: Romulus Trailer
43:16 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire Review (spoilers 57:02 to 01:08:16)
01:08:16 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read
01:14:20 Letters, It's Time For Letters
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[@MrMario-tc8sl]

Just two brothers, being brothers, something something blue harvest

[@evlinalw325]

Kinda reminds me of Charley’s Night Man riffs when you say it like that lol

[@SEMIA123]

Rodney

[@jared_really]

Great comment 👏

[@yapdat7036]

westworld

[@calebford6318]

Two brothers. In a van. And then a meteor hit. And they ran as fast as they could, from giant cat monsters…

[@geordaneplays]

"He's the billionaire we're gonna eat last." Love these men with all my heart.

[@TheMoviePodcast]

33:47 Hey, that’s us! Thank you so much for the kind words and shoutout. We’re big fans and means the world you liked our interview. ❤

[@WeeklyPlanetPodcast]

No worries mates, love your work!

[@skilledwarman]

It's not often there's this much of a disagreement between James and Mason, but that's what makes these Ghostbusters episodes great

[@kingfield99]

Big CEO news is my favourite type of news. God bless all those completely normal men.

[@scottduncan8445]

completely normal men is my new favorite segment.

[@videogamenostalgia]

If someone was to approach me in the street and ask "Who are your favourite two people who are brothers and also both love Ghostbusters?" I would choose these guys. Just a pair of siblings who have nothing but good things to say about Ghostbusters. Ghostbuster brothers. "Ghost-brothers", if you will. Classic stuff.

[@Alkeeros]

What a great opening bit. Great work Dr. Nick Mason

[@kingfield99]

Hi Everybody!

[@Dorian_sapiens]

@@kingfield99 Hi, Dr. Nick!

[@patrickbb9470]

New idea for ghostbusters sequel. They all die at the start of the movie. And have to bust a living human Villan at the climax of the picture. Bizaro Ghostbusters

[@Dorian_sapiens]

Isn't that fairly similar to the plot of Beetlejuice?

[@videogamenostalgia]

New idea for ghostbusters sequel. They all die at the start of the movie. That's it. It'd probably need to be a short.

[@patrickbb9470]

@Dorian_sapiens didn't think of that, but yes. Also to distinguish this one, the ghosts use lasers.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

Nice touch.@@patrickbb9470

[@nathanbartlett2770]

Ghostbusters buster

[@empatheticrambo4890]

4:55 good impression of Rich Evans doing an impression of George Lucas

[@mattrandazzo5491]

You know rich Evans ?

[@robertban871]

@@mattrandazzo5491 everyone does, he's the guy from a youtube show called Previously Recorded

[@RusPitman]

@@mattrandazzo5491yeah Chris. He has heaps of money.

[@smacksalad]

I am listening to this with my ears.

[@redravyn]

You know the end of Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, when Donovan drinks from the wrong chalice and ages a thousand years in a few seconds... that was me when you guys said you hadn't seen Beetlejuice.

[@callanharvey6264]

Same and I'm fucken 22

[@nicdennis]

Ghostbusters needs to be a 30 min TV show like IT Crowd or What We Do In The Shadows. Forget the original cast. Forget New York. Go to a random small city and follow a schlubby crew at a Ghostbusters franchise, who treat their jobs like they are basic exterminators. Make it about a group of losers just trying to pay the bills, and dealing with annoying customers and ghosts.

[@sibylsaint]

Aaron Taylor Johnson's first Bond girl should be Elizabeth Olsen, just for laughs, and the villain should be Robert Downey Jr. That last part is serious. RDJ is a total Bond villain.

[@johnmoss2312]

I'm gonna need that rude obi wan riff

[@BrandonBMore02]

Finally the Ghostbusters Brothers have returned to express their love for everything Ghostbusters

[@milou66]

The slapsy fight at the top of ROADHOUSE reminded me of that Australian comedy sketch parody of THE SLAP.

[@ogto]

the beetlejuice trailer finally broke me on slow covers. i had to pause the trailer 15s in put my head in my hands as i contemplate humanity's place in the universe...

[@medalion1390]

I hate that particular trope almost as much as James hates Ghostbusters.

[@tonyoli5240]

that's a bit dramatic lol

[@RusPitman]

@@tonyoli5240not dissimilar to a slow cover.

[@lrrroftheplanetomicronpersei8]

Finally someone who shares my opinion on this. Michael Keaton turned that trailer around for me though.

[@tappajavittu]

As a Ghostbusters (1984) fan, all I need is Ghostbusters (1984). Haven't even seen the 2016 reboot or the two new ones and I don't think I will see any of them, I got too much other (good) stuff to watch.

[@lloydhendric1281]

We need a Ghostbusters vs Insidious movie

[@markbolsover3145]

*I love most of all those moments in which your banter tips over into improv. almost French Existentialist, near-nihilism... ... -"I didn't know anything in my heart. ... -There are no truths there. ... ," (1:30:24 (approx.)), is a formulation of genuine depth & beauty. & also hilarious. thank you. ...

[@ogto]

look at james, with his HOT game references, that Sniper Elite pull was impressive not gonna lie.

[@joshkaid]

In regards to AI in Hollywood, I think it'll get really REALLY bad and scary. BUT! From that, it'll get better. Like the sampling example James gave.

[@Maxisamo1]

Yeah the big wigs seem to be bumrushing it to cut costs, and hopefully that backfires on them

[@codysmith3767]

I just started the podcast and am 30 seconds in and thought it a great time to leave a review! The new Roadhouse was insanely weird and bad. "Conor McGregor should be arrested." -"My wife!"-Borat

[@celondelon351]

I. LOVE. A. MR. SUNDAY. MOVIES. RANT.

[@elenaphisher244]

45:50 No. I’m not happy with the slop they’re dishing out. The worst part is that they brought back Walter Peck, but then did nothing with him. Wasted opportunity.

[@barthalen]

My racing movie recommendation would be the Japanese animated film Redline. The sense of speed and fluidity of the action in that one.. sublime!!

[@BlueMarsalis]

Fede Alvarez's said he's taking inspiration from the first three Alien films, and that the Prometheus was like a rich yacht so, not throwing anything out. Noah Hawley who's doing the series, has again mentioned first three films, but not including the prequels in his mythology so far as it pertains to the creation of the Alien itself.

[@roadtoau]

I'm glad that Cyborg is going to be a member of the Teen Titans again (supposedly). Hopefully that change transfers over to the comics as well. He just does not work as a member of a Justice League, besides being the member who gets absolutely mutilated by the villain to establish how dangerous they are. You can just rebuild him after all.

[@firstweekofwinter]

18:52 James' response to Maso talking about a comedian he assumes James knows, because that dude also was a teacher: - Does he like me? We don't know if that guys does, but boy, do we like you James. Even love you!

[@DylanWolfram14]

Sam Rockwell would be an amazing Riddler

[@davidblank420]

Hashtag RestoreTheScargiverVerese and give us our bad DC stuff back!

[@MrAjerguy]

Huh. Did not know Aaron Taylor-Johnson was British until today! I reckon he'd be a great Bond

[@Randomguynumber3]

Highly agree with the little stay puff marshmallow guys. Please god just drop it, it was awesome in Ghostbusters one, but a little piece of my soul dies every time i see them trying to cash in on this one minions wanna be thing.

[@gingandmidg8708]

What about Kumail joining Star Wars in Obi Won… the quadilogy

[@krusnik94]

Tetralogy

[@gingandmidg8708]

@@krusnik94 youre too smart

[@ciaranmurren]

Iger said he would "make less crap" after Peltz started putting pressure on him, not the other way round

[@gelfie2208]

James was definitely a teacher. This is exactly how my teachers spoke to me.

[@DylanWolfram14]

Super excited for House of the Dragon 🐉

[@gelfie2208]

I think the ultimate crossover is: it starts as a ghostbusters and they all die, then its Blues Brothers and they can team up with all the dead musical legends and get the band back together.

[@SmirkInvestigator]

They should have made a wish upon a relic that gave EVERYONE proton packs. Because isn't there a little ghostbuster within all of us?

[@OneSockFellOff]

Gawd besties for life love your dynamic - great pod🎉

[@The_RedVIII]

Uhhh, early next week Caravan of Garbage reveal? I like it!

[@billfrantz1638]

While watching I got distracted by British Teenagers Try Biscuits and Gravy, but then I came back. They thought it was fine.

[@stefan6347]

I like Frozen Empire, it is mediocre. I love Phoebe's family troubles and her casper the friendly ghost plot, I wish the movie is just about that because to me the first hour is so good and the rest is so middling. I do however like the ending where Peck is forced to like the Ghostbusters because of the crowd and Phoebe accidentally calling Grooberson dad, and all that jazz. I am content with what we got, because it's really cute but I do agree they need to do something more, because as much as a callback haven Afterlife was, the setting and feel and tone and character interactions and overall story are original.

[@Leahcimmichael]

Looks like we are getting a second part of James ranting compilation by the end of 2024, and I'm looking foward to it.

[@user-lo3bw3lc2e]

Rebel Moon is so forgettable, I actually forgot what movie they were referring to halfway through them discussing it.

[@J.O.R.D]

53:04 nooo James it’s not just you 😂that’s definitely done now man

[@LadyAstarionAncunin]

Have you guys talked about The Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live? It's been really good. I tried to see if y'all mentioned it in one of these more recent episodes, but maybe I missed it. Anyway, great series. They just have to stick the landing now.

[@adpirtle]

We need to establish the AI guardrails while we can still detect its use. Once we can't, it will be too late.

[@CriticsCupofficial]

Someone threw up in my ghostbusters screening and if that doesn’t speak to the spirit of this franchise idk what does

[@Kal-Eb_Bricks]

Remember Rodney.

[@joeldipops]

IMO Speed Racer isn't some kind of masterpiece, but it is both fun and good-weird. Worth a look if good-weird is something you like.

[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

#ReleaseTheRudeObiWanCut of this episode!

[@antzpantz]

Poor Kumail Nanjiani

[@niallgaffney2475]

In Roadhouse, Conor McGregor is a fully AI character from a “squeaky fighting boy” prompt

[@Kagrynac]

Looking forward to AI going the way of 3D. Big explosion where it's used everywhere before companies realizes it's not a shortcut to billions and move on. That said, I am a big fan of AI being used to Upscale old TV series. Especially ones denied proper DVD/Digital releases.

[@moondustmix1682]

"Ach! Mein Nutz!"

[@flywheelshyster6549]

Oh thank God for something light, I've been listening to fascinating horror channel about disasters and accidents and such. Be careful out there folks, you never know. BUT its comics and coffee time ya know I couldn't not mention a nice cuppa in the morning with the weekly planet guys. Got them Monday morning, got Off the Rack at night. Perfection.jpg

[@artisticAsian353]

Please do the beginning bit scenario as the thing to introduce the best of the weekly planet 2024.

[@pvthitch]

My fave racing movie is Breaking Away.

[@MC-bh8ph]

So the honda trophy truck is going to be available in Autumn?!?!?! Im pumped, been trying to get this forever

[@hada__02]

I will always tune in to James (justifiably) hating Ghostbusters

[@Heyzeus101]

More AI extras are gonna result in less parts for new talent that never get noticed which means more Hollywood nepo babies will get a stranglehold on the industry in the future.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

As long as studios are using AI as a way to avoid paying creatives for their work, I think audiences should find ways to avoid paying to watch the movies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@94ejackAYTUser]

A.I. is to Tyler Perry what motion capture was to Robert Zemeckis.

[@rouenrobinson]

Ghostbusters Frozen Empire is the Oppenheimer of the Ghostbusters movies as far as cast size is concerned lol. The Real Ghostbusters episode with the werewolves and the vampires in the deserted town is still one of the best episodes of the series, but also of television.

[@colinlittlewood9613]

How does Aaron Taylor Johnson intend to be Bond when he'll be doing SPUMM movies for the next decade?

[@AnnDVine]

The Ghostbusters need to fight, like, competent Slimers. Ghosts that are kinda smart and mean, but not harbingers of demonic incursions. There should be comedic back and forth between the Ghostbusters and the ghosts! Make it like Mouse Trap or something.

[@howiespancakeshack]

I have to say - the point and "outrage" over Late Night With The Devil makes no sense. Indy film. No money. Would it be better if they said "Any artists want to work for free? Do us free work whilst we get paid for a film." Support independent film. Would it be bad for a micro-budget or low budget to use ai to do a sky replacement or add a castle on a hill?

[@ChristopherSmithNYC]

I worked as a Shooter/Editor in Albany, NY. Small tiny world.

[@codalune]

Weekly planet #50 is still my favourite episode, eager to see if you can top it in caravan of garbage

[@brucemichaelwentworth3857]

I'm probably the only one that feels this way - but I really really didn't like the Daredevil movie and a few months later they released its direct sequel, Elektra- which I really really liked. Come at me bros!

[@CrocvsGator]

I'm wondering if Mervel 1943 (terrible title, btw) third superhuman character is the Human Torch, by which I mean the Golden Age Android.

[@bloatus7611]

I think the problem with Ghostbusters and that seems to come out in James' problem with the whole thing is distilled in that one tweet that said the first movie is an extended SNL bit and people have latched onto it making it more than that. Like imagine trying to make all the SNL movies into franchises.

[@bretthake7713]

You mean you wouldn't watch I Got A Fever Part IV: More Cowbell starring Timothy Chamalama as Christopher Walken?

[@bloatus7611]

@@bretthake7713 That movie came out this year actually. Lisan al Gaib!

[@iwantataco28]

ALBANY NY REPRESENTING 😂😂😂

[@medalion1390]

Really? Well I'm from Utica.

[@danholzhauer1864]

Anyone else get an ad for Disney stockholder voting? James and Maso clearly in the pocket of George Lucas 😂

[@dmolmalowski]

Unlike James HotD the main one for me, impressed and surprised by the last season, although i found a lot of the characters fairly likable.

[@k-nun]

I just don't see how something like sora ai could replace actual filming even if it didn't look uncanny. If you want to do an interesting shot or even just have a particular framing for a scene, it won't be able to do that in the specific way you want it. Maybe if you want to use it to generate random drone establishing shots it could work, but again the time spent generating shots and editing it to look better or consistent has to be weighed against just flying a drone camera and getting the shot immediately.

[@SilhouettedAnimator]

I definitely feel like James Gunn would do justice to the Teen Titans far more that the edgelordy Titans show failed at.

[@iouiscolingreen1373]

RELEASE THE OBI WAN RIFF CUT.

[@JokerzRoundTable]

Can’t believe yall don’t even mention X-men 97. Has it not been released in Australia?

[@celondelon351]

I think Aaron would make a good Bond, possibly Nolan directing would be an interesting combo and Nolan makes no secret of his ambition to direct an 007 film.

[@lrrroftheplanetomicronpersei8]

Can someone explain to me why, at the climax of Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire, Bill Murray put on sunglasses _whilst_ indoors _whilst_ the sky is practically black with clouds, _whilst_ they're waiting for a demon ice god, only to take them off seconds later? Is it because he's Bill Murray, or perhaps because he's an alcoholic?

[@FrogJuiceJustice]

I wonder if the other super soldier in 1943 is Baron Blood the hydra vampire

[@AcornElectron]

As much effort in the extended visuals as in the Caravan of Garbage version plus extra seconds of dog! 🐕

[@mondayjulymonday]

Producer Jason Reitman and director Gil Kenan apparently clashed over the entire concept of this sequel. Kenan lobbied for the main antagonist to be the actual Devil, with the climactic duel being fought while red hellfire spews into the New York streets. But taking a cue from Dante’s Inferno, Reitman pitched that the demon villain would actually bring forth cascades of ice, culminating in a battle around a sapphire beam of light so immense that the producer dubbed the CGI effect as a veritable “blue harvest”, which also happens to be the working title of Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope.

[@jared_really]

Sam Rockwell could be a fun Johnathan Constantine

[@erikskywalker3130]

No way Arron Taylor Johnson gets going after that craven movie drops :( I feel bad for him

[@jimjam7928]

57:10 Why would they mix it up? Playing it safe and pandering to nostalgia is what has earned them the revenue they've made thus far. They won't want to jeopardise that.

[@seanrowe6973]

Crazy to hear James defend Love and Thunder, but hate on Frozen Empire. 🤷‍♀️

[@Ineedgames]

At least Love and Thunder was tonally new. What's in Frozen Empire that hasn't been done in the other 4 Ghost Busters movies?

[@seanrowe6973]

@@Ineedgames Yeah, I agree with you on the GB movies. The movie def has it's problems. I'd argue that L&T wasn't tonally new, but more of what we'd seen in Ragnarok dialed up to 11. I likely won't watch GB or L&T again, but if I had to watch one, it would GB. To me, L&T is empty, bombastic from start to finish, and wasted potential with great actors and themes to explore. I know some folks really dig L&T, I'm just not one of 'em.

[@EmperorJ123]

Am cooking the dinner lads. Homemade pizza

[@bitsandbobs42]

It is quite hard to take you guys with any sort of sincerity when you haven't done Speed Racer yet 😔

[@ECPlex]

sam rockwell as a retired old robin 1:20:27

[@multiversal2023]

Hello

[@jimjam7928]

40:17 XD

[@ReverandHortonPete]

Engagement

[@evananderson1455]

Did you know that Billionaires love swings? And trees?? Billionaires love to swing from trees. Spread the word!!

[@thekidry5551]

Death race is the best racing film

[@J.O.R.D]

40:03 my motherfucking birthday 🎁

[@Shawn-ju9ck]

I agree with James the only good ghostbusters movie was the original. Ghostbusters 2 feels like turtles 2, I enjoyed it as a kid but watching it now you realize it is garbage I never want to see again.

[@thebevanator3813]

James loved the opening rant very funny.. however, who the hell are you talking to! 😆 ghostbusters fans only like the first one too, the most you'll get from the others is "two's not bad" and that's about it... what I'm saying is.. the ghostbusters fan was you all along

[@Dorian_sapiens]

Was there a meeting of all of Earth's Ghostbusters fans that voted to authorize you to speak on their behalf regarding what they like and don't like? No? Didn't think so.

[@thebevanator3813]

@@Dorian_sapiens you weren't invited to that meeting.. they said you were a fake fan ;)

[@Dorian_sapiens]

@@thebevanator3813 This made me genuinely laugh! You're all right!

[@JesseMaurais]

Sony keeps making the same mistake with their franchises. Every. Single. Time. It's unreal how little they learn. They keep cramming way too many characters and plots into a single movie. And the really insane thing about this is, they are at the same time trying to build a continuing franchise. Like, you can save SOME of your characters and ideas for the sequel. You know that, right? You want to make 5 movies? Then spread this out over 5 well paced movies. Don't ruin each one by making it like its your only chance to make a movie. They did no less than 3 different times on Spiderman alone. Seriously, they ruined Spiderman 3 like this (the Venom subplot). They ruined the Amazing Spiderman (spy parent subplot and the Rhino). And it looks to me like they're ruining the Spiderverse with this. There's just way too much going on in one film. And of course the latest GB movie has about a dozen too many characters. FFS, sony. Get a clue.