Gigabyte - UltraForce Laptops, X99 SOC Champion, Brix Mini PC

[@will3346]

Gigabyte i have a suggestion could you just reverse the hoses make it go through the gpu PCI slots in the back and run up the back of the case that way you have access to the io and have a nice clean look in the front I hope you take my suggestion into consideration thanks

[@will3346]

Just to explain my self better the 2 PCI slot that the gpu takes up should be used for the hoses that go up the back end

[@yevsey169]

Will Leonard That's a great idea, but you would need quick disconnect hoses to be able to get the GPU in

[@will3346]

Yes have it come in 2 parts the gpu is one and the aio is the other (still buy it together though) just have quick disconnect fittings on the back

[@zorgar]

That would be nice or what i would like to see is two way SLI connected to a single dual 120 rad. That way people will be able to run a dual 120 in the top for there cpu and a dual 120 in the front of there gpu's if there case supports it.

[@affiguer27]

Dude, always love your mix of expertise and humor. Hope you are having fun at CES!

[@ledzeppelinfan12344]

200k subs! Congrats Jay!

[@dobsonironmonger2414]

Love this! 120mm single card would be sweet !! Also a 2 way version of the 970 and 980!!

[@gutserker]

What I want to see from the waterforce is modular cooling, series radiators to combine cooling, and quick disconnects. The ability to run only two tubes outside the case would make things a lot easier for routing and case aesthetics. I do believe that running a single 120mm radiator could work with the small amount of heat these cards are putting out, but the ability to add more radiators, or connect the system to a custom water cooling loop would help tremendously for serious custom builders.

[@joshgrinstead901]

Hit it right on the head, single card self contained water cooling. Love the idea NZXT brought to the table on the "shroud" idea but I've read a lot of the issues with the VRM brought to high temps. All-in-one all-included single gpu water cooling!

[@TheEGGtech]

I think it is great that Gigabyte is taking the criticism well and is trying to use it constructively to improve their products. Obviously they realised that they had missed a few things with the waterforce, so hopefully we will see some changes with that and maybe some different configs with single, dual and maybe another triple product. Many companies that make a product and receive as much criticism as the waterforce received would have rejected any new ideas and/or blocked any more communication with that particular reviewer (thinking Antec with another KZbinr :P ) which really should be how companies should approach issues with their products. Kudos to Gigabyte. :)

[@jonas1015119]

2 970s with a 240mm radiator to mount internally. 970 SLI is definatly one of the most popular multi-GPU setups now.

[@BryanZALim]

I think the best configuration for a Waterforce card would be a single card with a 120mm rad, but if possible to have the pump not built into the waterblock (maybe on the radiator side similar to the antec cpu loops) with standard G1/4 fittings on the card so you still have the option to include it in a custom loop later down the line.

[@its_leb]

Another great video Jay

[@MrJoshywoshy911]

Great to see a little bit about laptops great :) thanks jay

[@Jeggers2905]

It'd be cool to get a mid-high end card like the GTX 970 with both 120mm and 240mm rad options. Keep up the great work Jay!

[@dubi127]

Fullcover water block with 240mm rad on a single card? Super quiet and cool setup.

[@code1997]

Thanks for The Awesome Updates! A Question: What do you think about "beheading" the Haswell`s because of their bad thermal-paste? Is it worth it, or is it a useless endangering of your cpu?

[@ThatWhiteGuy]

A single card with a 120mm rad would be the best.

[@NameSchema100]

evga will sell one

[@YourLocalGuatemalan]

Nice video Jay, thanks for the content.

[@sbrazenor2]

***** MKBHD Austin Evans LinusTechTips Unbox Therapy Why have you guys all been doing the same products? There's gotta be absolutely tons of stuff on the floor at CES, but every channel I follow has had the same 3-4 things. MSI, Razor, and Gigabyte. Is there nothing more innovative this year? I'm not saying the quality of the videos is worse, or anything... It's just the constant re-hashing of the same gear that seems a little lame. There's a ton of KZbinrs there. Couldn't you guys parse out the tech and work more on your specific strengths and niche products?

[@wawaweewarice5302]

No they're not doing the same things and why are you associating mobile tech channels to LTT and JTC. Useless to tag them for no reason. Linus and Jay has done PLENTLY of different reviews of CES items, the difference is that all of it was about PC hardware, because THEY ARE PC HARDWARE CHANNELS -_-

[@sbrazenor2]

Wawaweewa Rice I'm seeing the same coverage on several of the channels. A post will pop from one of them with a product and then an hour later another channel will have the exact same product. Then later that day, another post with that same product. It's kind of silly. I know that many of these guys know each other, so maybe they should coordinate better to show a wider spread. CES is supposed to have cool new gadgets and interesting tech (even things that we know will flop). Instead, most of the coverage is about 'safe' stuff, like Intel's new chipset, or cases and liquid cooling, or the $100 console concept. Seeing another version of a GTX980, or a laptop with last year's desktop chipset isn't extremely mind-blowing. (Especially when someone else has already talked about it.) I guess I can't blame them. All of the other media outlets do the same thing. There could be 1000 stories, but 3-4 will get airtime, because they're the most dramatic.

[@wawaweewarice5302]

SeanFromPVD not everyone is subscribed to both Linus and jay for example, so they won't be compromising just because they know someone else is covering it. In fact, there are probably over a hundred journalists and reviewers reviewing an item, it would be ridiculous to search something like gtx 980 and get only 1 result from 1 reviewer. There were some impressive things such as the broadwell ultrabooks, tegra X1, phones, audeze el-8, 360 cameras, and monitors

[@sbrazenor2]

I guess if you only watch one of them, then it makes sense.

[@MGChondros]

Thumbs up for your waterforce-diplomacy!

[@braycam4]

What i want to see in water force is you can buy the box on the top and each card separately like the evga water cool cards but the box has quick disconnect as well is the cards so you can have 1-4 cards as you go if you want to up grade the big box on top has a 360 rad 60 millimetre thick pre installed in it with the pump and every thing else in the box so when you buy the g-card it comes with the tubes and quick disconnect pre attached then you can plug and play

[@GOATSTER911]

Great coverage Jay :)

[@JetBen555]

Gigabyte all you need to do is slap a 120/140mm AIO to a single card (mostly the higher end part) and bundle it with a nice fan/pump controller to put in the 5.25in bay. No software bullshit.

[@Ubuntuaddicted]

these little brix machines will be awesome for steam in home streamers to play awesome games from your main gaming rig. you could even use Steam for linux on the Brix because Intel decoding of 720p and 1080p is a thing

[@kuyache2]

i want to see a nicely priced single card geforce 970 (or the 960/980 etc), with water cooling built on the board, fan should be blowing away from the board (fan in the middle of the board and radiator). and not eat too much space.... this will ease the way to mini ITX (mATX) gamers where we can only give watercooling to the cpu... keep it up jay great work on making them hear what we want...

[@burdebc1]

I think they should put all 3 cards on one loop and hook that loop up to a 360mm radiator. It would be best to have that radiator inside the case, but if they decide to have the radiators in a separate unit then there would only be two tubes to deal with (quick disconnects would make those tubes easier to route as well).

[@TheDandyCarrot]

Single 970 on a 120,140,240 rads with. Would absolutely love to see an AIO full loop so a 240 rad - cpu - gpu - cpu - rad with the pump on the rad. Would be best if this could be done as a single slot card

[@mcstracer1992]

I would really like to see a dual 970 with an expandable system using a decently think 240/280 rad. Not many mid range cases can support a 360 but I know my personal C70 can hold a 280 just fine. Also try to make it not come out of the case and if it must mount it on the back or the side simply due to height limitations with some systems. The reason I say dual 970s is price vs performance. They could probably mass produce a dual 970 with a 240/280 rad that was expandable for 1100 and they wouldn't be able to keep it in stock. I know I would buy one for sure.

[@TheBigred0911]

How about making it a modular system with a selection of rads for either internal or external mounting. Just put the pumps on the cards and have quick disconnects on the hoses and they can be connected to other cards or to rads so you can make a loop with multiple cards or a single card and have a few different rads like a 120 and 240 option for internal mounting, and maybe also the external option with that box to put ontop of the case if someone wants a more extreme setup.

[@Music0uploader]

Gigabyte would have me sold if they put out 970 or 980 waterforce single 120mm like the r9 295x2

[@Wmarote]

For the enthusiast a 980 with custom PCB and a thick 120mm or 140mm radiator to push overclock of the card to very high limits, going toe to toe with LN2

[@edweagle]

I think single and dual waterforce kits should be considered. 3 and 4 way card configs aren't as useful due to driver compatibility, but single and dual configs could hit a sweetspot for those that don't want to custom water loop their systems.

[@Falhok]

I would love to buy waterforce video cards which would have only one 120mm rad no thicker than a 120mm fan so I could add more and more cards down the road and accommodate the rads as easy as other fans in my case. Cheers !

[@MusicHavenSG]

It'll be good if that Optical Bay can be swapped for another 980M for the same idea as the Lenovo's one.

[@anthonysheacreations]

There are two things I would like to see, one would be a video line up with our convention loop water blocks pre installed from people like EK, Danger Den ect and then a closed loop single cards. The most common multi gpu solution is dual cards after all, not to mention the amount of scaling lose you get with three cards you might have well just threw that money for the third card out of the window. Enjoy your time down there and dont be like Paul's Hardware and lose your voice :P

[@sidteche]

Finally I Got a video ad in this channel after 3 months

[@OGShiv]

I would want removable/swappable radiators to put elsewhere inside of the case, or come up with s way to have the unit in the case. Also with the screen, instead of having it on the radiator case, put it in a 5 1/4 bay like the OC panel

[@boomercorley1930]

Different radiator sizes would be nice to have with water force, like different card configurations along with the different radiator configurations

[@PetesRcCorner]

id like one big rad maybe a 60mm 360 same enclosure but ability to add cards to the loop as you desire

[@michaelgutierrez9923]

Gigabyte: I second his suggestion of a single 120mm rad solution. If you were to sell that product with the same heat sink that the tri-SLI kit comes with, give us RGB LED lighting control, and more reasonably sized (length) tubing, then THAT would be a product worth investing in.

[@sebastianw.3670]

When it comes to waterforce I think that a single card with a 120mm or 140mm rad is the way to go. I want a RGB-lighting thing so that I can color-match it to my system if it was green or blue or orange or whatever.

[@Ztaal3]

Why don't they do as you say 970 and 980 with a 120 or 140 rad, that's what most people would like. Me personally would buy a 970 specially if I could pump that heat out the back and not have it be as noisy as the blower style fans. And if they could get the heatsinks to take care of vrm and ram without an extra fan on the card that would be crazy cool...

[@VillageGorillaHead16]

P35 can do it too! I have the P35K (previous model), and it has two mSATA SSDs, 1 2.5" HDD, and you can swap the optical drive with another HDD. Just sayin'... :)

[@JakeAbsolutelyJakedTomlinson]

They should do a product like water force but for two way sli and make it a lot smaller form factor, not everyone wants a big ass box on their pc

[@peytoncobb4647]

Water force does have great potential but it would be better to have single card configurations with either 120mm or 140mm radiators available for gtx 970 or 980.

[@TheJackman426]

i think they should try to put the pump and res on the radiator and have a 5.25 inch bay fan controller akin to what they have on the front of the unit. and that leaves possibility for radiator sizes and sli/crossfire configurations

[@yevsey169]

Have the waterforce as one big loop, not three separate ones. And have a dual card option, since gain for three cards, is not worth the price to many. These both would make it cheaper Thus more will buy, and the later will make more even consider it. Also as somebody else said, have the hoses come out the back, even if it will require quick disconnects, or some awesome magic solution I can't ponder to make happen. Also have a waterforce type two, that is more like a CPU all in one, so completely case contained, like that evga card, but with a dual card model too ( make sure card distance from each other can still adjust to fit all motherboard the right way

[@bsntadinfo2480]

I'd like to see a you with a closed loop cooler and a interestingly designed heat sink of similar style to usual air coolers, Evgas new card is getting a bit closer to that aesthetic

[@gordie727]

As for the Water-Force, why not just have a 360 rad with 3 GPU plates and hoses and have them all connected together minus the video cards?

[@KcufThePopulati0n]

I would buy a water block for the gtx 900 series cards. I don't like all in one cooling I want options. We have all in one's from corsair and they work good. Full custom loops is the way to go.

[@thestig987654321]

I wpuld be interested in a single water cooled 970 with 120 mm rad. That would be perfect I know the kraken g10 exists but that voids your gpu warranty

[@Veriflon88]

I would put an additional IO-panel with usb ports and power and reset buttons on the waterforce

[@FMIO]

Let me see an AIO single video card watercooling setup that works well and doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and I'd buy it for sure.

[@SliiikHD]

Just got a snow day due to -20 degree weather! FUCK YES

[@Parkskiingftw]

So this is asking for alittle bit more but i would buy a single 980 with an aio on it BUT, it would need to easily voltage unlocked, have a dual bios and a way better vrm. I do alot of ln-2 overclocking so it would be cool if you made an soc video card

[@DevCasey]

I wouldn't go into the 3way market, because if you want 3-way then by now you should know how to water cool a gpu

[@CaligoNight]

Dat color scheme on the x99 motherboard

[@Matiazletsplay]

1 card under 1k whit 120mm radiator + backplate, Love it.

[@darkbone4]

hey jay.. I was wondering if you ever tried or not liquid nitrogen cooling if so can you make a video about it? (if that's possible)

[@WutsInYourMind]

Gigabyte should do single and 2-way Waterforces, if you can afford 3-way then you should afford a custom loop.

[@Jay-xv3yn]

***** Dude what's your honest opinion I need to know if any of these laptops overheat cause I need one for times when I'm going to the city and I hate to have a hot laptop in my lap burning my fingers that's why I usually hate laptops.

[@MajorStaticX]

A little off topic, but... No AMD stuff?? i havent seen nothing from them at all?

[@navindraramrattan3520]

Do you know a good amd motherboard and a good cpu for it.....? It's my first pc build mostly for making videos and playin games and i would love some help to pick out the parts....Thanks

[@TradeMeKrazy]

If Gigabyte does do a 120 water cooler on the 970/980, they need to do a full waterblock on the entire card without a blower fan. I would buy one in a heart beat.

[@Owesome]

I think Jay's idea is great, since what's the point of a big box for holding the fans and the rad? Just stick em inside the case. Also I do see an advantage of Gigabyte's waterblock design, since what I see is a baseplate that covers the whole card that has heatpipes running along it to transfer even the VRM heat to the AIO cooler it has stuck on to it, so it'll no doubt cool better than EVGA's solution which was to use a blower fan to cool the VRM.

[@Ashaira]

performance oriented custom water loops actually have separate cases or other boxes for their rads.

[@Owesome]

Ashaira No, no one does that anymore.

[@Ashaira]

acnfanmanin uh yes they do. hell some enthusiasts have underground pipes to cool the water to sub ambient temperature. external rads are nothing new. i've seen repurposed pc cases used as rad boxes or wall mounted rads etc. While it may not be mainstream it is fact that mounting the rads outside the case you use helps temps for both the rads and the components in the case.

[@Owesome]

Ashaira You don't need it to be outside to be enthusiast grade.

[@Ashaira]

acnfanmanin It doesn't have to be but having it outside helps you squeeze every ounce of cooling out of it.

[@FeuerToifel]

if the waterforce will be available in parts, that could be a thing. so you can buy the cards with watercooling as a single item and if you wish, you can buy the box also as a single item. maybe different versions of the box, so one with two fans for two cards and the three-way one. and maybe another one, for those crazy floks who wanna have 4way sli. with all parts beeing a seperate item, upgrades are so much cheaper, since you only have to buy a new card, of course with the cooler on it.

[@GuestforeverX]

I think the brix is cool. Hope to get one someday.

[@thisisfireabend]

I would buy a single card with a 280 rad. It would fit ferfectly into my case, 280 for my cpu at the top and 280 for gpu at the bottom!

[@DaHorizonFTW]

1 gpu with 120mm radiator, 2 way sli gpu's with 240mm radiator and 3 way sli gpu's with there big water pump on the top of the case. That would be amazing in my opinion.

[@em3sis]

Jay... my main man.... love the vids bro, i would suggest upgrading the wardrobe just a tad dude. Not hatin or nothin, just a suggestion.

[@tuxaqualeak]

I'd like to see waterforce for a single card but with 240 and/or 280 rad options since gpu generally outputs more heat and 240 rad is often the size used for the cpu...

[@jeremiah9561]

I feel as if a 140mm radiator as an option too would be a big selling point for s GPU solution.

[@epicsteamoverclock4175]

I want to see Gigabyte GTX 980 and 970 with full VGA waterblock and their beautiful backplate that cost nearly as much as the normal WindForce GPUs... Or do something like ROG did with Poseidon and make both at the same time. Remember that it has to be well priced/

[@doodskie999]

how about a superclocked gtx 980 x2 in a single card with a 240mm rad. like how the r9 295x2 did it.

[@charlesnix8314]

great video ..Gigabyte has some really good new products for 2015

[@James-dl6kn]

I would just like to see cards come out with preinstalled water blocks like evga did with the hydro copper series but use the EK blocks

[@callumedwards9298]

Water force allow custom loops and have that custom pcb POWA

[@jonathandartnell7473]

Warterforce for the single gpu market its not viable its much cheaper and the temperature would be better in most systems with a closed loop in projects with 2 our three yes but i think the market they are pushing is limited in size also why not try reversing the display and post the tubes through the gpu slot expansions this would look more visually pleasing and would make the idea look more appealing

[@Energyone]

How much is that laptop? 3 grand?

[@benjamingovaere7820]

ive got like the brix with like the amd cpu and gpu yeah like the on with the dedicated gfx card and i mounted it on the back on my tv installed a remote to turn it on and now i kinda use it like to game sometimes if i'm to lazy to sit behind my desk

[@JDavies345]

with Waterforce, i like to see a Standalone cooler, as in you can install it for a reference PCB, it'll be great for those who get the EVGA SC edition and dont like the coil wining, it'll be nice if they can do that at around $75 range and maybe release a 400 bucked version card with the same cooler thats just all reference with slight OC and then have one thats 475 thats 100% non reference, and they need to have it like the ones in that 3way, heat pipes to redirect the heat from the VRMs and Ram, it'll be greats for all three versions, and i would PAY for that if the warranty is right

[@jonas1015119]

For the sandalone cooler. Any Asetech AIO cooler and a NZXT G10 or Corsair GH10 bracket, already available.

[@JDavies345]

they dont have YET for the 900 series, and they dont have cooling pipes for the VRMs and Rams to be cooled by the contact to the copper plate, they all need DIY cooling or use Fans which have a noise potential, regardless how quiet it is

[@perkupine5810]

I would also love a AIO cooled single card!

[@QuestionmarkX3]

Give me a graphics card that allows me to attach a rad to it. Meaning, It comes with the water block, reservoir, and pump all pre-installed, it is pre-filled, and then, I have the option to order a 120, 140, 240, 280, etc. rad to attach to the loop. Or simply give me a 240mm rad option or an expandable loop option.

[@OMGBlackst4r]

everyone is stepping up their game like crazy what does evga and asus have in store for us maybe a "shut up and take my money" type of product

[@jre5590]

pretty sure the laptops would be cheaper than the aorus ones and i prefer dual 2.5" drives and single gpu, would buy...if i had the money

[@vladyk34]

Its actually giving you one of the best performance per doll....size ratio... Yeah ....

[@MazeFrame]

A two or single version of the waterforce... you said that already ;)

[@ChiTownsGaming]

Gigabyte has that "no flex zone."

[@pandagan3876]

i feel like they should have a model of the waterforce being a single card solution that could have an upgrade path to two cards if the user wanted to get another.

[@erikhendrickson59]

Kinda pisses me off that Nvidia gave the 980M cards 8GB of VRAM and only put 4GB on the desktop 980s It says one thing to me: Nvidia knew 4GB would be nearing its limits in the next few years, and you cannot easily upgrade a laptop GPU.

[@Naavy2022]

2:55 did Jay say "f*cker" or is that just me

[@IntenceCeption]

Gigabyte CEO was behind the camera holding a pistol at Jay

[@duelbrosgames]

If they made like a dual GPU 980 with a AIO water cooler like the r295x2 would be awesome

[@TehTrickZooming]

okay im coming for some help on my cpu usage. When play bf4 it seems to be about 60-80% usage on high settings. Is that fine? I am new to gaming pc and just switched over and I really dont want to break anything or ruin things. Also my 8gb ram uses around 6 when playing and 2 when just on internet is that fine to? I know this is probably the dumbest question but I do not want to put anything at a risk. My specs are: Intel i5 4690k 3.5ghz cpu 8gb of ram r7 260x gpu(fixing to take it back and switch out for r9 270x to try it out some) Just doing the main ones considering my question. Thanks! I know question is noobish im sure but would like to make sure everything is normal and fine.

[@TheOne1ManArmy]

Everything there is normal. Bf4 is a very cpu heavy game, just check your temps are not over 75degrees Celsius and you should be all good, as for your ram that is all fine aswell

[@aaronbowtell6652]

Yep, Yep. All normal, TheOne1ManArmy is correct. Check this out for more info www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1800828/intel-temperature-guide.html PEACE

[@TehTrickZooming]

thanks to both of you. and from what i seen the temps were 50-60 C

[@senzelian]

I would like to see a normal card with a nice "Waterforce" waterblock and a Waterforce logo on the side. I don't like those AIO GPU coolers.

[@nonikita]

If Nvidia releases a gtx970ti or gtx980ti it would be totally cool to have a water cooled one straight from the box.

[@gaming-zombie1392]

How it go in Las Vegas Jay?

[@atomicandrewvideos]

Water force but in a odd bay instead of on the top of the case would be good

[@bacawaka2813]

granted the waterforce is kind of weird but a single GPU with a 360 rad would be good. Or the capability to add more watercooled GPU's later on using the waterforce but keeping the radiator maxed out at 360.

[@Polioooo0]

Yeah a 360mm rad on a gpu would not be the best investment but if your like going all out, ballin pc then that's a awesome idea

[@bacawaka2813]

The thing is 3 grand. I think it should be the most ballen thing out there. You can do a thick alphacool 360 rad with 3 980s with waterblocks with a d5 pump with some tubing and a cheap res for around $2500 us. *Plus or minus the shipping components chosen and stores prices*. However, I forgot the fans and I didn't include a fan controller which could run off of a motherboard.

[@firefoxsr5152]

I have a question, i hope any1 could help me. I have a virus on my computer that does allow me to play games and do skype and that stuff, but litterly nothing else than that, but i was thinking if the virus is a program it must be stored somewhere, i was thinking the hard disk or the 8gb workspace thingy , so ig you replace the hard drive and the workspace, will the virus be cleared? (I hope some1 helps me it will save me a lot of money).

[@Jovahkiiin]

They usually attach their selves to the operating system in most situations, try a OS reinstall if its really bugging you, and try anti-virus, sometimes malware bytes picks them out well.

[@andrewm1058]

Gigabyte, if you do a 120mm single radiator please oh please do a 140mm one

[@ChaoticRenny]

1 120 millimeter rad with the windforce fans maybe.