Gigout: Grand chœur dialogué - PETER EILANDER, Laurenskerk Rotterdam (Two organs)

Peter Eilander - Laurenskerk, Rotterdam (NL)
Grand chœur dialogué, Eugène Gigout
Peter Eilander Marcussen-organ
Jaap Eilander Choir/Transeptorgan (Marcussen)
Arrangement by Peter & Jaap Eilander
Live-recording during the traditional 'Nieuwjaarsconcert' Laurenskerk Rotterdam (NL)
January 6, 2018
www.petereilander.nl

[@douglasjensen8986]

What a wonderful performance in such a wonderful venue.

[@Railfan6675]

This is a beautiful piece of music. Thank you for sharing!

[@James1623]

I love the section that has been tagged onto the end of the original piece. I think that is an incredible ending. ❤

[@PetervanDalen3053]

Eugene Gigout is trots op deze prachtige uitvoering van zijn werk. Zijn geest is absoluut hierbij aanwezig.☘

[@eefdenhartog4853]

Zowel het grote orgel en het transept orgel volwaardig gebruikt in zijn volle glorie geweldig😍

[@markfortuin7111]

Magnificent!!!

[@charlesdavis7087]

This was fantastic. Thanks for sharing this wonderful work.

[@parrotlover9035]

Both organs have been digitally sampled and the virtual organs are available for us to play at home. They don't sound as good as the real thing, but not many of us can play the actual organs.

[@ben-6670]

Bravo!!

[@leunisvanklinken321]

prachtig stuk op 2 prachtige orgels, magnifique

[@pipedreams1685]

Could you imagine being there for the live performance!

[@Pipedreams89]

I would love to have been there!

[@jmdujardin]

magnifique ! merci à vous ! Gigout sonne très bien sous vos doigts, sur cet orgue historique de St Laurent , merci

[@jmdujardin]

je reécoute, avec un plaisir renouvelé. Grande oeuvre du maître Eudène Gigout, grands instruments, et interprètes de grand talent : merci à vous. Rappelons juste qu'Eugene Gigout, venu de Nancy (France) , fut l'elève de Camille St Saens, et compta Gabriel Fauré parmi ses elèves illustres. Enfin, , que Léon Boëllmann , son neveu compositeur et organiste également fut aussi son fils adoptif.

[@LeendertCordemans]

Zeer mooie vertolking van beide orgels in de kerk. Mooie samenspel. Gigout zou dit zeker mooi hebben gevonden.

[@nk9064]

美しい物 美味しい物は沢山の人達と一緒に楽しみたいですね.........

[@danielzubillaga5079]

Marvelous.!!,,,,,,,,,, 😄

[@DGJoldenburg]

Mooi man, geweldig! 🤓

[@ivicamadar8803]

B R A V O ! :)

[@leunisvanklinken321]

blijft mooi

[@EduardQualls]

One feels sorry for the smaller "swallow's nest" organ, when one realizes that (unique except for some Spanish Renaissance organs) almost every rank of the principal chorus in each division of the big, Marcussen organ is not a single rank of pipes, but a double rank, speaking at the unison. This makes those principal choruses sound wider, more sonorous and a bit louder. A unique organ for a unique and excellent performance.

[@rrkdudas6848]

the transept organ is great in my opinion

[@jeanpierredevos3137]

I like the small organ mutch more. Never liked the sound of the Marcussen organ.

[@stthomasmore4811]

@@jeanpierredevos3137 I like the small organ too, but I'm not sure how one could simply "not like" the Marcussen organ. LOL. It's a masterpiece of an instrument.

[@jeanpierredevos3137]

@@stthomasmore4811 I don't like it at all. It sounds mechanical as specialy the chamade work is horrible. Listen to the fantastic organs in Haarlem, Gouda, Groningen, Kampen and many others witch sound mutch better.

[@legendary6790]

@@jeanpierredevos3137 bruh, the chamades are the best part of the organ. Though those other organs you listed are amazing too.

[@josbiesheuvel]

mooi!

[@fransdegroot9778]

Ik was er toen bij jare geleden alweer. Nu moet er 1 miljoen komen voor het grote orgel om hem te renoveren dus mensen doe je best met giften.

[@jeanpierredevos3137]

Jaap maakt wel veel kleine foutjes. Maar toch mooi.

[@CM-bs2gv]

Schitterend!

[@hildalenten39]

Zijn dit twee orgels in dezelfde kerk? Fantastisch.

[@andre26071955]

Ja, Transeptorgel en Hoofdorgel, beide gebouwd door Marcussen, Aabenraa/DK.

[@albertwessels71]

tot mijn schaamte moet ik u bekennen, ik beluister u voor het eerst,dit is wel gnieten van uw orgelkunst.dank.

[@reiniereilander1987]

Het is nooit te laat Albert :)

[@kyotokid4]

...umm, like wow.

[@organbuilder272]

This is more the proper pace. This is a conversation between two organs (Or two divisions in the same organ) it is a sort of question answer thing. When it is played too fast, especially in live environments, the sound does not have time to develop, especially the pedal notes where pipes take time to reach proper intonation. SLOW DOWN. Let the conversation be heard clearly - note by note. Your pants are not on fire. You do not have to hurry to put the fire out. Technically - the performance is good. Musically, not quite to much.

[@kokvannood5994]

Peter

[@chet146]

👍👌

[@WINCHANDLE]

AT the beginning, on the first 3 manual organ, something seems out of tune. Is it me? Yep something out of tune. Mixture flat? Otherwise great

[@reiniereilander1987]

William Shepard, you are right. The intonation of the three manual organ isn’t tuned in same quality of the great Marcussen organ and the mixture was also not well tuned.

[@WINCHANDLE]

Reiner, thank you for your kind reply. Granted the hearing aids are on backorder, but just wanted some validation that my pitch perception wasn't off. No complaints, grateful that any organ is playable. Do you think A440 is the invention of the devil? kidding somewhat. The cathedral organs in Spain, Mexico city, and ST Maximin, Oh and that precious organ 1610 in Fredrich castle (?) in Denmark (amazing reeds!) are certainly not A440. These organs are utterly wonderful, especially playing austere Spanish batallas. Pierre Cochereau played the D minor tocatta (which these days I tolerate...so overdone) on the CC organ in Norte Dame Years ago... way pre restoration. That organ was so WAY out of tune it added to the gloom and spookiness effect. I love when someone plays a tutti chord on an old organ and the whole things goes slightly flat because it is out of "breath." It's alive! Back to A440.. adopted in the 1930's -50's orso. If you search "432 hz" on youtube, there are all of these (voodoo?) videos claiming a salubrious effect of listening to this frequency,,,meditation,,transcendental lotta weirdness. Where did all this come from? But it makes me wonder if having concert pitch A432 would resonate better with our souls, rather than the sharper A440. Just entertaining thoughts here. Wish I could have a party with all my KZbin pen-pals. Lot of really smart people. What a stimulating evening that would be! Bist Du Nederlander? Ich comme aus Bryn Mawr Pennsylvania. That's about the limit of mein Deutsche! Chus!

[@WINCHANDLE]

PS The Esztergrom organ playing Wein Bleibt Wein is great fun. The organist somehow got it rebuilt from the Wreckage of WWII and through communism and it sounds really impressive to these ears. it has some interesting amazing crisp clear colors.

[@EduardQualls]

@@WINCHANDLE You can check www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/, to see if you think there is enough difference between 432 and 440 Hz to make a major difference: 432 is just over a quarter-tone lower. (It was the British Standards Institute conference in 1939 that came up with the 440 recommendation, and it's just economic sense for the instrument-making industry to prefer a standard of some kind, so that they can voice, tune and sell the same instruments, everywhere. [See ask.audio/articles/music-theory-432-hz-tuning-separating-fact-from-fiction for a dissection of the "432 is the universal panacea & 440 is a conspiracy" fallacy.]) BTW, the "Bach Organ" in the Thomaskirche (Leipzig) is capable of playing in either standard "Kammerton" of 440 Hz [German orchestras tend to go with a' = 443], or "Chorton" of a' = 465 Hz (which makes a' sound close to 'standard' a'-sharp). Not sure why they'd do that, since the organ it was supposed to be patterned on (the one in the original Pauluskirche at the university, that Bach played) is more likely to have been voiced at a' = 415, close to a modern a'-flat. On the other hand, if you asked me to sing you an a', I would most likely produce a g' (~392 Hz), which was the Baroque standard for a' given by (JS Bach's cousin) Johann Gottfried Walther, as calculated by the mathematician, Leonhard Euler. Not sure why my ears are stuck in the Baroque... Now, returning to _that_ tuning would certainly make a difference-and strings would last longer! [Yeah, I cringed at that mis-tuning, too.]

[@WINCHANDLE]

@@EduardQualls Eduard, thank you for taking the time for such a thoughtful and instructive response. Euler was a genius, but we knew that. I'm outside Philadelphia. winchandle at gmail. You'd probably enjoy change ringing in church bells...mathematical pattern and sequences which I don't yet understand but is fascinating. Sorry I don't have a link. Thanks again.

[@Doeff8]

The audio recording is really not so well done.

[@mrfixit0273]

A few tuning issues and a fair few mistakes made in the performance

[@susanneskotte9214]

The Transeptorgan is a little out of tune....but great music !

[@renedeheer4303]

Peter je timmert teveel

[@davidpoulton2860]

Nice but noisy gives me ear ache.