Gil's Arena Breaks Down Luka Doncic's Hall Of Fame Resumé

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Gil's Arena

Gil's Arena

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@BlackSheep703
@BlackSheep703 5 ай бұрын
People forget its a basketball hall of fame not an NBA hall of fame. He had enough accolades in his Euroleague career to warrant induction consideration.
@laraeelzie7651
@laraeelzie7651 5 ай бұрын
Fact!
@wattsem8386
@wattsem8386 5 ай бұрын
Tell that to Stephon Marbury
@Kmasetv
@Kmasetv 5 ай бұрын
@@wattsem8386that’s political smh
@wattsem8386
@wattsem8386 5 ай бұрын
@@Kmasetv ion get it
@jasonpompey6731
@jasonpompey6731 5 ай бұрын
What did he do in Europe?
@Youcankicktheball
@Youcankicktheball 5 ай бұрын
When he averaged 29/9/9 in his second year after having one of the best rookie seasons ever i knew he was special, can't compare guys like tatum, ant or Shai to this guy
@eternity3822
@eternity3822 5 ай бұрын
Bro scored 73pts this year and everybody in the media hated it and called it bad defense 😂😂😂 where Shai at
@chiefwahoo6408
@chiefwahoo6408 5 ай бұрын
@@eternity3822 Exactly. Shai's career high is 44 and he's 7 months older than Luka. He would need 50 FTA to get anywhere near that.
@tylercanton3836
@tylercanton3836 5 ай бұрын
Luka glazing is real why the team trajectory has turn when Kyrie is running the offense.
@chiefwahoo6408
@chiefwahoo6408 5 ай бұрын
@@tylercanton3836 That's just your confirmation bias when it does, and you ignore the many opposite times. Show me something real and measurable.
@michaelmeteviet9702
@michaelmeteviet9702 5 ай бұрын
​@tylercanton3836 do you even know what you're talking about? Luka still runs the offense for the most part. FYI any offense is going to get better when you have a happy kyrie.
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 5 ай бұрын
Luka has already passed McGrady on any all time ranking.
@NYUArchaeology
@NYUArchaeology 5 ай бұрын
McGrady is nastier and he's from the black no skinnyjean and videogames streets. McGrady wins.period.
@lwwarren9485
@lwwarren9485 5 ай бұрын
T-Mac would kill Luka!
@jsos6309
@jsos6309 5 ай бұрын
Don’t sleep on Tmac he was nasty. In saying that Luka probably passed him
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 5 ай бұрын
@@lwwarren9485 Did McGrady even win a playoff series?
@johnnguyen6469
@johnnguyen6469 5 ай бұрын
The haters are having a hard time coping. McGrady is nowhere near close to Luka. Basketball is not a 1 on 1 sport. If it was Shaq would destroy everyone. Luka rebounds and passes better than McGrady
@blackmanwithcomputer
@blackmanwithcomputer 5 ай бұрын
If this was Anthony Edwards or Kyrie, they would be way more hype during this discussion lol. Saying T-Mac is better than Luka is fucking hilarious.
@tabernathy0428
@tabernathy0428 5 ай бұрын
Way better. Luka can't shoot and is unathletic.
@El_Fonzo
@El_Fonzo 5 ай бұрын
No they wouldn't lol... and T Mac is better than luka
@tabernathy0428
@tabernathy0428 5 ай бұрын
They don't understand that TMAC averaged 32 ppg when the team average was only 93 ppg in 03. 103 ppg led the league back then and many teams averaged in the 80s. The Pacers avg 123ppg this year. 30 ppg more than the league average. Prime TMAC would average 40 in the current NBA. This era is fake.
@purplesky4157
@purplesky4157 5 ай бұрын
😂 foreal. I love t-mac but he is no where near Luka
@purplesky4157
@purplesky4157 5 ай бұрын
@@tabernathy0428what about assists, rebounds? What about ppg during the playoffs? What about beating to number one seeds to make the conference finals? What about 5 all nba 1st teams in his first 6 years? Yeah bruh stop it Luka better
@Jennings88Tx
@Jennings88Tx 5 ай бұрын
Bruh they hate to acknowledge the greatness of Luka... its like if they admit hes generational, the sky gon fall smh. Look at they energy during this segment, they look crazy uncomfortable lol. Always moving the goal posts. When has WINNING a championship. Ever been looked at as a paper championship 🤦🏾‍♂️
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
I swear lmao! And that paper championship shit is insane! I’ve only ever heard it said about Lebron with the bubble ring until now! Referring to the nuggets ring as a paper championship is nasty work!
@Kaminaanime7860
@Kaminaanime7860 5 ай бұрын
@@gregharper6382 they didn't say Nugget ring is a paper one ur being too emotianl. They are implying if this the only ring they can get then it will be seen it by popular opinion. Same with giannis victory. They are saying so much things go to being percieved as the goat. They clearly love to aknowledge luka. I mean they literally admit if he ends today he is HOF because of his accomplishment in euro league and nba is suffecient. It's just in social media era we see everthing and everthying. There is so much nuance too it now that wasn't for older players and champ. So they righfully talk about rings and how not all rings are viwed the same for example KD with two despite kd having all the accolades prior to the ring it always be a big question mark on his rings. The whole point of the convo is that legacy now is so nuanced even for a guy like Luka who is already a HOF.
@bmxney3143
@bmxney3143 5 ай бұрын
@@Kaminaanime7860these old heads having awful takes and u wanna defend it smh
@dtrey7
@dtrey7 5 ай бұрын
To call someone a paper champ and u have no rings is wild
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
Nasty work!🤣🤣
@dtrey7
@dtrey7 5 ай бұрын
@@gregharper6382😂😂
@aaronconnor6547
@aaronconnor6547 5 ай бұрын
@dtrey7 yeah I didn’t get that point of view at all, he was basically trying to take away from everyone’s chip run he named just because they didn’t win back to back. Pretty dumb
@ChromeHeart-hx2ms
@ChromeHeart-hx2ms 5 ай бұрын
Come to the comments errtime 😂😂😂
@dtrey7
@dtrey7 5 ай бұрын
@@ChromeHeart-hx2ms 😂😂
@_NoMakeUp
@_NoMakeUp 5 ай бұрын
I’m taking Luka over Tmac right now,!!
@Kobe8DaGreat24
@Kobe8DaGreat24 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@MyOaAesis
@MyOaAesis 5 ай бұрын
Likes are 77, it hurts me to upvote
@bdiggs7305
@bdiggs7305 5 ай бұрын
Luka over tmac and it’s not even close.
@Official.CGWoody
@Official.CGWoody 5 ай бұрын
Nigga cant play defense
@MyBastiboy
@MyBastiboy 5 ай бұрын
When these guys have to talk about Luka especially after a game where he dominated.. the energy in the room felt like somebody died 😂😂😂
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 5 ай бұрын
They’re tired of these European players dominating especially Luka and Jokic 😂😂😂
@Steveooter
@Steveooter 4 ай бұрын
What Tatum say to Luka? Luka I am ur father😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@bdukes8075
@bdukes8075 5 ай бұрын
How a dude with no NBA accolades or championships talking about a paper championship 🤦‍♂️😂 there is no such thing as a paper championship a ring is a ring
@corpyhogan4433
@corpyhogan4433 5 ай бұрын
Because none of the dudes on this couch are winners
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
Holy shit thank you!!!!! I was like wtf are you talking about! Glad Kenyon at least said it’s not easy to win a ring! Considering he’s been to two finals and lost!
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
@@corpyhogan4433Kenyon has at least been to the finals though lol I know he lost both times but Gil and McCants didn’t even sniff that shit! And hell Gil actually has some accolades too McCants is the only one that really has nothing of value in the NBA!
@mycitysucks8096
@mycitysucks8096 5 ай бұрын
None of us played in the NBA at all, most people here couldn't make their high school team. Anyone can say anything
@armandomontez1004
@armandomontez1004 5 ай бұрын
Kmart borderline a bust
@robertocontreras4006
@robertocontreras4006 5 ай бұрын
No one can guard Luka
@justinhumphrey1516
@justinhumphrey1516 5 ай бұрын
Because they won’t let them.
@robertocontreras4006
@robertocontreras4006 5 ай бұрын
@@justinhumphrey1516 did you see what he did to McDaniels ?
@hlmcclain2
@hlmcclain2 5 ай бұрын
@@justinhumphrey1516 🎯THANK YOU 💯
@Chrism7178
@Chrism7178 5 ай бұрын
Tatum stay punching Luka shit.
@robertocontreras4006
@robertocontreras4006 5 ай бұрын
Are y’all watching the same playoffs I’m watching ?
@vonmillhouse7701
@vonmillhouse7701 5 ай бұрын
Let's be honest, Luka numbers put him in goat range😂😂😂
@naklovesjesus3204
@naklovesjesus3204 5 ай бұрын
Nah bruh... The goat convo is a whole different level 😎
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
They do for sure if he stays on this trajectory! 5 first teams in the first 6 years! And the way Gil speaks he’s not even in his prime yet! If this man stays healthy he’s gonna go crazy!
@puljano
@puljano 5 ай бұрын
​@@naklovesjesus3204luka will retaire with minimum 4 rings..and 30+ post season..top 3 player in history..if basketball have just 10% soccer popularity in sauth east europe than 8 of 10 top players in history will come from sauth east europe...we are one another level when it abaut sport
@givenchyoverall
@givenchyoverall 5 ай бұрын
Stg, Luka is projected to be the only player in this era who can catch Jordan and Bron😂 if he was black everyone would be on his dick
@naklovesjesus3204
@naklovesjesus3204 5 ай бұрын
@@puljano 🤔 I wish it was that easy.... But you forget about injuries and the other great players. You also forget that you need great teammates and luck during all of those runs
@mikesavage214
@mikesavage214 5 ай бұрын
Let's be real if Luka was black, Gil would give him credit but since he is white Gil will never give him the respect that is due. It's ok though we all know what's up!
@El_Fonzo
@El_Fonzo 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 why you lying? Stop making things up
@twoggspromos5948
@twoggspromos5948 5 ай бұрын
@mikesavage214 are you slow? the man literally said hes already a hall of famer with or without a ring. yall want him to call luka the greatest player ever so bad 😂😂😂
@deecool47
@deecool47 5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure, but I think white boys are arguing with emotions in the comments. This why I said Luka's fanbase is not built for NBA debates. Because don't listen and immediately take everything out of context. You didn't listen to FUCK all what Gil was saying. You got defensive when Gil was giving him props. Yall so reactionary it's wild. No other fanbase is like this but Luka's weird ass fans.
@El_Fonzo
@El_Fonzo 5 ай бұрын
@@twoggspromos5948 for real
@mk3tsi
@mk3tsi 5 ай бұрын
@@twoggspromos5948 you are the one who is slow. Thats like saying no disrespect, but... and proceeds to shit on him everytime
@badwolftx2139
@badwolftx2139 5 ай бұрын
Luka was already a lock for the Basketball Hall of Fame before he played a minute in the NBA. His European resume alone is legendary.
@RichDoe9
@RichDoe9 5 ай бұрын
Facts his resume in Europe is why I still question why the Hawks didn't stick with him
@mk3tsi
@mk3tsi 5 ай бұрын
@@RichDoe9 Cuz muricans think that G league and college is better than Euroleague lmao. Says everything about them
@brunomanuel5558
@brunomanuel5558 5 ай бұрын
​@@mk3tsifacts
@edoe5915
@edoe5915 5 ай бұрын
That European Resume is fancy toilet paper What you do in the STATES makes you Great
@El_Fonzo
@El_Fonzo 5 ай бұрын
​@@RichDoe9why? What has luka won? All he does is put up nice stats.
@jjbrewe
@jjbrewe 5 ай бұрын
If u don’t repeat, you’re a paper champ? Ridiculous take
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely Abysmal take lmao!! That was nasty work!🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@stipcon
@stipcon 5 ай бұрын
The Spurs actually don’t have any rings
@DatriceMulsumo
@DatriceMulsumo 5 ай бұрын
Tracey is not better than Luka yall drunk af
@cooldudecs
@cooldudecs 5 ай бұрын
Mcgradey? Yea he was...
@DatriceMulsumo
@DatriceMulsumo 5 ай бұрын
@@cooldudecs yea you really don’t watch basketball. Mcgradey never even made it to a finals lol nor did good in playoff
@Sinatra292
@Sinatra292 5 ай бұрын
I guess you never watched T Mac play. Tracy was a dog before his injury
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 5 ай бұрын
@@Sinatra292And he never got out of first round
@freefoodtv
@freefoodtv 5 ай бұрын
@@DatriceMulsumothe game is weaker and I been watching bball hard core since 80s. Go to games front seats. Finals and all
@Jevonicoleman
@Jevonicoleman 5 ай бұрын
There is not one aspect of basketball that Mcgrady is better than Luka. Only a higher vertical.
@BaykuhJ
@BaykuhJ 5 ай бұрын
I think tmac was a better finisher thru contact
@Chrism7178
@Chrism7178 5 ай бұрын
shooter finissher
@neonmatt24
@neonmatt24 5 ай бұрын
You obviously have never watched prime T-Mac.
@DLT143
@DLT143 5 ай бұрын
Definitely a better shooter too
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 5 ай бұрын
@@DLT143Shooter? lol, Luka shoots better from almost every area of the floor
@johnnguyen6469
@johnnguyen6469 5 ай бұрын
Luka is superior to Ant. Kyrie is also better than Ant. The Mavs have good size and energy off the bench as well. Add in a HOF coach. Mavs will be world champions
@SeddyPooh
@SeddyPooh 5 ай бұрын
Delusional
@Billy_Supreme
@Billy_Supreme 5 ай бұрын
​@@SeddyPooh.... hater
@Freshkid57
@Freshkid57 5 ай бұрын
🙏🏽 ❗
@HomerunsamSOSA
@HomerunsamSOSA 5 ай бұрын
Who’s the HoF coach 😂😂
@SeddyPooh
@SeddyPooh 5 ай бұрын
I can admit when I’m wrong i was wrong for that comment mavs are 2-0 so if you believe that I respect it
@johnnywalker9067
@johnnywalker9067 5 ай бұрын
I wonder, if any of them pundits realize it: If Luka was a black US-NBA-Player, all of them would be over the top praising his greatness. And now look at them phonies: they are searching for something negative to say, it is ridiculous!
@SupremeGon
@SupremeGon 5 ай бұрын
Its crazy Luka wasnt the unanimous 1st pick in the draft. Even the night of the draft I had him clear cut best in the draft.
@mk3tsi
@mk3tsi 5 ай бұрын
American bias
@ImMe20127
@ImMe20127 5 ай бұрын
K-Mart constantly hates on luka, was quick to try and name players better than Luka 😂😂😂 like it’s just that easy And had the nerve to say T-Mac is better than Luka…he’s just a hater
@johnnguyen6469
@johnnguyen6469 5 ай бұрын
He also tried to hate on j Lin and Lin had to put him in his place. Google that if you haven’t heard about it
@johnsonnguyen3114
@johnsonnguyen3114 5 ай бұрын
​@johnnguyen6469 lol that was gold! Got Martin to apologize! Kenyon with his chinese tattoos lol
@ImMe20127
@ImMe20127 5 ай бұрын
@@johnnguyen6469 lmao I remember that…I believe Lin had braids or something
@lewisalba7825
@lewisalba7825 5 ай бұрын
Talent wise t mac was better period , resume luka of course
@ImMe20127
@ImMe20127 5 ай бұрын
@@lewisalba7825 talent wise T-Mac is not better than Luka lol maybe how smooth he looks scoring but T-Mac can’t pass or control a game anywhere near what Luka can do
@Krlzr
@Krlzr 5 ай бұрын
if we are talking basketball hall of fame, these are some Luka accolades before playing a single minute in NBA. just to name a few: * Won the 2018 EuroLeague with Real Madrid CF. * Named to the 2010-20 EuroLeague All-Decade Team. * Named 2018 EuroLeague Final Four MVP. * Named 2017-18 EuroLeague MVP. * 2016-17, 2017-18 EuroLeague Rising Star. * Named to the 2017-18 All-EuroLeague First Team. * Named 2017-18 EuroLeague October MVP. * Won the 2015 Intercontinental Cup with Real Madrid CF. * Named the 2015 Euroleague Basketball Next Generation Tournament MVP. * Won the gold medal at the 2017 European Championship.
@gal3930
@gal3930 5 ай бұрын
The hate on Luka is incredible. If any black American was posting his numbers, these guys would riot until he got MVP and Top10 all time consideration
@Jakub680
@Jakub680 10 күн бұрын
I hate to agree but man when things are obvious it’s hard not to point it out 😂
@Ronjaytris
@Ronjaytris 5 ай бұрын
How can you say “paper champ” and you don’t have a ring Rashad 🧐🧐
@corpyhogan4433
@corpyhogan4433 5 ай бұрын
Considering international play is taken into account when deciding hall of fame inductions Luka is without question a Hall of Famer
@modestphillips1930
@modestphillips1930 5 ай бұрын
McGrady is not better then Luka
@ifashionjeanius
@ifashionjeanius 5 ай бұрын
Man fax 😂
@oneofone_1333
@oneofone_1333 5 ай бұрын
I think they was just talking about pure Talent.
@IFitHadtobetoldRight
@IFitHadtobetoldRight 5 ай бұрын
Interesting statement
@FTO9797
@FTO9797 5 ай бұрын
@@oneofone_1333there’s nothing that says he’s more talented to me besides athleticism
@chrisayo8687
@chrisayo8687 5 ай бұрын
They trippin Luka win this year he bout to enter top 10 all time conversation and if he keep winning rings and putting up these numbers then Goat conversation
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
That’s big facts! Him winning this year definitely gonna shift some convos especially if he get finals mvp then Kenyon gotta stfu with the Kyrie is better bs
@devonmoody1460
@devonmoody1460 5 ай бұрын
So y'all would put luka over who in the top ten rite now luka is James harden 2.0 when he was with the rockets numbers thru the roof but it's iso ball,,ball dominate he has shown up in the playoffs In big spots but to say he would be top ten if win a ring that's crazy Kyrie not in front of him Kyrie got them the win against Minnesota not Luka
@mannymatencio1279
@mannymatencio1279 5 ай бұрын
Top 10 lol😂
@QuintonNewsom
@QuintonNewsom 5 ай бұрын
@@devonmoody1460bro u ain’t never seen harden play like Luka in the playoffs!luka has ice in his veins!and a way better passer then harden!there way different
@devonmoody1460
@devonmoody1460 5 ай бұрын
@@QuintonNewsom u a lie when he took the warriors 2 7 games bra u a lie he ain't hit game winners in that series
@rsimon409
@rsimon409 5 ай бұрын
My generation of hoopers are sounding like old heads. Luka is on his way to top five all time territory and will be discussed among LBJ, MJ, Kareem, and Steph
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
I’m which you mostly my guy but Steph and no Kobe is nasty work🤣
@eyoung8202
@eyoung8202 5 ай бұрын
What people don’t realize, is that at his age he’s doing better than Bron at that age
@purplesky4157
@purplesky4157 5 ай бұрын
Bruh if Luka was American or black they would be saying he’s the next Jordan lebron. Some of them would be saying he damn near better. I mean just look how they glaze Edward’s and ja morant after 1 good season lol. Imagine if Luka was black??? They would be glazing him to astronomical levels. I hate to bring race into it but this is blatant. From all of them 2 which is a shame. The only dude in the media I see give Luka his flowers is Paul pierce everyone else be hating. Look how Gil talking about him like he’s giving credit but barely and u can tell he doesn’t want to but he has to 😂. Kenya Martin is saying Tracy McGrady and others are better is crazy. Tracy mcgrady didn’t have the CAREER that Luka is having in his first 6 seasons lol. Rashad the only one giving Luka credit and even then it’s lazy although not as bad as the others.
@mk3tsi
@mk3tsi 5 ай бұрын
Fax, but they wont admit it 😂😂😂
@nomorepartiezz
@nomorepartiezz 19 күн бұрын
I think it helps to realize sometimes that all these guys on the couch were losers in the league that ultimately didn’t do shit in their careers and yes I’m including Gil in that. They’re funny but any time they try to actually talk hoops/legacy stuff you can’t them seriously. I mean you got Mr. “I played four seasons in the NBA doing nothing then spent a decade in China” Rashad Mccants talking about paper rings and championships. Get the f outta here lol. These are the type of guys who will try to tell you that some all star from 2004 is better than Jokic or Luka just because they’re from their era and a part of their culture and are more of a “hooper”. Like your 50 year old uncle who can’t stfu about back in his day before he bust his knee or something. It’s sad.
@DatriceMulsumo
@DatriceMulsumo 5 ай бұрын
Luka is top 10 all time when done
@rostikskobkariov5136
@rostikskobkariov5136 5 ай бұрын
Skin color matters most to these dudes
@latortugapicante719
@latortugapicante719 5 ай бұрын
At what point do we actually start calling some of these dudes racist. It’s like some of these guys ate some sour food when they gotta talk up luka or joker
@FL1PZ00M
@FL1PZ00M 5 ай бұрын
Luka Is Miles ahead of TMac
@aubhreypender3091
@aubhreypender3091 5 ай бұрын
Career wise possibly. In terms of ability at his best, no player in history was miles better than t-Mac lol. He was 6’9 great athlete great jump shot, great finisher, and could pass the hell out of the ball. Be real.
@FL1PZ00M
@FL1PZ00M 5 ай бұрын
@@aubhreypender3091 Yeah and all of that led him to never getting past the second round until he was a bench player. I fuck wit TMac heavy, but to not say Luka is clearly outpacing him skill wise is insane. (Injuries are a part of the game)
@Steveooter
@Steveooter 5 ай бұрын
Get it out ur mouth
@GatoTurd
@GatoTurd 5 ай бұрын
What did T Mac do in his first 5 years? The first 4 years scored less than 9 points a game. 5th year scored 15 a game. What are people talking about? It took a very long time for T Mac to even get close to 20 a game and finally reached 30 a game.
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
Ok I’m so glad you said this because I hadn’t looked up any numbers yet but I was like damn am I just hating on Tmac because that shit sounds wild to me to have him over Luka
@nomorepartiezz
@nomorepartiezz 19 күн бұрын
Facts bro shit is lowkey disrespectful to Luka but we not allowed to acknowledge that because their oldheads stuck in the past and let’s face it because Luka is a white Euro. If Luka was the same exact player but a black American from the south or something with more American charisma like Ja or Ant they would be up on that couch every fucking episode going crazy about how he’s the next goat
@Davidstone568
@Davidstone568 5 ай бұрын
They have a hard time acknowledging luka's greatness.
@leakedeion1
@leakedeion1 5 ай бұрын
I've been saying this for a while now but if Luka was black they would compare him to Lebron. He's literally the Euro version of Bron! He was a phenom overseas winning championships in pro leagues at 16 and came in the NBA putting up better numbers than anyone outside of Wilt
@gameoverability1876
@gameoverability1876 5 ай бұрын
6 years in and hes close to an average of 30 point triple double FOR HIS CAREER. if luka was black he would be praised like jesus.
@ImGearsBeast
@ImGearsBeast 5 ай бұрын
Gil cmon now, with his numbers and to be 3rd in MVP that’s a snub with the injuries the mavs had this year and roster change smh
@milo8165
@milo8165 5 ай бұрын
Who's watching after games 2 DAL vs MIN
@mk3tsi
@mk3tsi 5 ай бұрын
Saying paper champs is the ultimate disrespect. Just say you hate them
@Rawnskii
@Rawnskii 5 ай бұрын
I love how a bunch of non hall of famers talk about Luka like he wouldn’t be on the hall of fame if he retires now. We all know these guys will never sniff or be even be in the same sentence as being a hall of famer. Bum takes by a bunch of bum players. Get these guys inducted to the Hall of Yappery.
@nomorepartiezz
@nomorepartiezz 19 күн бұрын
All these guys were absolute losers in the league that didn’t do shit their entire careers talking about HOF and paper championships from the couch. Shits sad tbh
@frankcalello8678
@frankcalello8678 5 ай бұрын
Top 15 all time 5 years in is straight up silly. I love Luka, I think's there's a great chance there's going to be a top 10 all timer spot waiting for him when he retires. But to even float his name in that conversation currently is premature. He's 25 and playing right now... the normal comp would be other guys in the NBA who are also still building their resumes. I get that it's sort of a compliment aimed at how much he's achieved, but there's no rational "Luka is top 15" debate that doesn't degrade those same accomplishments with things he hasn't done yet (MVP, Finals appearance, NBA Champ, etc) I'll always believe that "I'm taking my talents to South Beach" was the first moment that truly inspired mass hate on Lebron, but as his career continues onward, a lot (not all) of the criticism he's drawn has more to do with his legacy than the season he's currently playing. It's made for a situation where one of the greatest players of all time (the greatest is debatable for me, but that's he's ONE OF the greatest is not) is also one of the most disliked. I'm not saying he'd be universally loved, but I do think he would be enjoyed and appreciated more without the constant application of the Jordan yardstick. To be fair, some of that is his own doing, some is totally out of his hands, and some is just human nature. My point is that when you start these legacy conversations so early, fans of the people Luka will be supplanting on the all time list along the way will feel obligated to defend their guy, often by trying to poke holes in a career that's still evolving. I don't like it for the players, or for the fans on either side of the argument. No hate on Gil's Arena in particular, they're just one of many shows talking the same topics (and in more entertaining fashion than most) Not sure how I wound up on this soapbox, but I'll hop down now.
@chaos-fk6fs
@chaos-fk6fs 5 ай бұрын
another clutch performance and game winning shot by Luka. I mean cmon Luka is on pace to become the best guard since Steph and Kobe.
@Jhoncena22
@Jhoncena22 5 ай бұрын
Saying McGrady is better than Luka at any point is an absurd take
@ronhawkins1824
@ronhawkins1824 5 ай бұрын
I watched T-Mac whole career and he was my fav player at a point I promise you at no point in his career was he better than Luka like it’s not even close
@ivanrivera1246
@ivanrivera1246 5 ай бұрын
Sorry but I had to say it you guys are racist I can feel the energy, Luka is playing injured and playing better the all the Americans players
@lajuan
@lajuan 5 ай бұрын
If it’s just about the Hall of Fame Luka is definitely in. He is a Euro league champion and MVP. If he retired today, he would make it 100%.
@detreross258
@detreross258 5 ай бұрын
luka been a HOFer he has more than one resume . nba euroleague
@1AceIAm1
@1AceIAm1 5 ай бұрын
Where's all the MVP candidates? In Cancun with their advanced analytics.
@maojae1382
@maojae1382 5 ай бұрын
Gil saying Luka is already getting the credit/awards he deserves is laughable since almost everyone on that stage picked SGA to be mvp.
@enzogonzales3038
@enzogonzales3038 5 ай бұрын
these fools always sound sad when they have to talk nice about a euro
@ntnnot
@ntnnot 5 ай бұрын
:D Actually spot on LMAO
@randybailin4902
@randybailin4902 5 ай бұрын
Luka's already a 1st ballot HoFer. What's the debate?
@shynebayarea510
@shynebayarea510 5 ай бұрын
Luka is him
@andrekather9596
@andrekather9596 5 ай бұрын
How they talk about him you can feel they dislike a white guy is the baddest dude in the NBA and another white guy in jokic is the best player in the league
@米米小-v7h
@米米小-v7h 5 ай бұрын
I❤Doncic🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@S.Lee51
@S.Lee51 5 ай бұрын
Nba is predominantly an African American League. Why do you think they’re trying to force Ant Man to be the face of the league? Cus they don’t want a white dude being the face. It’s pure discrimination. Hell, Stephen A Smith had Luka #5 in mvp voting lol 😂 smh. Dude lead the league in scoring, 2nd in assist, 2nd most 3s made behind Steph curry this season. A 7th-8th seed team that made a mid season trade, got a couple of mid big dudes, finished at the 5th seed and now bout to make the nba finals. It’s pure hate.
@mk3tsi
@mk3tsi 5 ай бұрын
Media controls the narrative smh
@Keviekev115
@Keviekev115 5 ай бұрын
He optimized the “tall” pg model.
@SandraPhillips-cb5og
@SandraPhillips-cb5og 5 ай бұрын
You're a natural, keep doing what you do
@geremysantos4203
@geremysantos4203 5 ай бұрын
Crazy that Luka can retire now and already be first ballot hall of fame at 25 years old lol.
@vaughnmiller4371
@vaughnmiller4371 5 ай бұрын
Okay experts, Magic's deal was 25 million for 25 years. And at that time it was the biggest deal in sports. Imagine that.
@terencel9197
@terencel9197 5 ай бұрын
Jokic is not a paper champ…. His “chips” are really not that great. It’s amazing how far he can go with them
@aaronhutchinson885
@aaronhutchinson885 5 ай бұрын
1st Ballot HOFER if he stops today. But without winning he can't be a top 20 player.
@boblully5053
@boblully5053 5 ай бұрын
If luka was black you would be glazing him like Anthony edwards lmfao
@chrisred2733
@chrisred2733 5 ай бұрын
Kenyon said "winning nba rings aint easy" ....... well yeah, unless your name is Patrick McCaw 😂😂. That dude is the luckiest man in nba history
@Gen_Jutsu_Itachi
@Gen_Jutsu_Itachi 5 ай бұрын
Funny how so many people wanna bandwagon Luka now. I’ve been a fan of his for 5 years and I’m extremely happy to see his name to have so much consideration in Alltime Discussions!!!
@jahy1970
@jahy1970 5 ай бұрын
If any player ends up in top 100 all time,, that is a super accomplishment, and whether they are viewed as number1 or number 100, that difference is slim to none because they are all the greatest.
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
Goood point!
@arkadiuszrogala1359
@arkadiuszrogala1359 5 ай бұрын
“Paper champ” get this man off the show. It’s embarrassing
@yarboroghjl2410
@yarboroghjl2410 5 ай бұрын
This hurts them so bad. Accept Luka, new face of NBA
@GMBKJ
@GMBKJ 5 ай бұрын
i find it funny a bunch of casuals are sitting here discussing other players legacies 🤦🏽‍♂️
@Cmonkey752
@Cmonkey752 5 ай бұрын
How these guys with as many rings as me talk about multiple rings 😭😭 5:12
@BradGreen-p7q
@BradGreen-p7q 5 ай бұрын
He needs to win 2 back to back rings starting now. That will be a good start to be amongst the great.
@AVAXII
@AVAXII 5 ай бұрын
is McCants for real? Joker didn't deliver? did he watch the series?
@majay2390
@majay2390 5 ай бұрын
Tmac not better than Luka
@DyronThom
@DyronThom 5 ай бұрын
He’s all good. Former EuroLeague MVP/Champ @ 19
@ApeWithNoBrake0
@ApeWithNoBrake0 5 ай бұрын
Keep in mind y’all luka is casually grinding overwatch as well mans is like top 500 in overwatch
@paintballJohn2
@paintballJohn2 5 ай бұрын
Luka is already top 25 all time he was a prodigy coming to the nba. Everyone doubted him and he proved everyone wrong.
@ldj4life1
@ldj4life1 5 ай бұрын
…Luka was already cold BUT then Vlade Divac told Luka no I’m not drafting you.. Luka took that personally
@DreGang.
@DreGang. 5 ай бұрын
He came out wen everybody getting old he had the perfect time
@Anonymous--Troll
@Anonymous--Troll 5 ай бұрын
1:31 really? 🤦‍♂️ Can we let someone win 1 ring first? An MVP?
@ImMe20127
@ImMe20127 5 ай бұрын
It’s a basketball HOF, not NBA HOF…with his stats/accolades from Europe he’s 100% already a HOF player
@Anonymous--Troll
@Anonymous--Troll 5 ай бұрын
@@ImMe20127 ok didn’t know much about Europe
@ReginaldGriffin-f3x
@ReginaldGriffin-f3x 5 ай бұрын
He was snubbed so many times with that MVP man.
@nomorepartiezz
@nomorepartiezz 19 күн бұрын
@@Anonymous--Troll Euroleague is the second best basketball league in the world. He won MVP, the equivalent of finals MVP, and a ring in Europe by the age of I believe 18. Keep in mind that, again, this is the second best league on the planet. He was playing with grown men, including some players that were in the NBA or had been at some point. Yet in the draft people were comparing that to the other candidates who had spent a couple months playing 18 year old accountants and real estate agents in college just because they were American.
@LeonarRonquillo
@LeonarRonquillo 5 ай бұрын
If McGrady snagged as First Ballot HOF, Luka is sure as hell would do the same. Not to mention his international accolades, he's already lock for HOF.
@TinyDraws7
@TinyDraws7 5 ай бұрын
that shirt mccants wearing go dumb hard 🔥
@Short_Motivation_GX
@Short_Motivation_GX 20 күн бұрын
Of course years help and titles help, but in the end the fans around the world decide who becomes a legend! Look at Dirk, he only won one championship and he's a legend and his numbers weren't crazy either...so if he is magic and all love it he will become legend no matter what thats for sure!
@leonyses2887
@leonyses2887 5 ай бұрын
Y’all who are calling these guys out are tripping man. Luka still needs to prove himself before you can anoint him top 10 all time. Let Luka prove it. He’s got so much time left.
@mrudhul696
@mrudhul696 5 ай бұрын
Did that dude say Denver are like paper champs ..dear lord
@derrick5112
@derrick5112 5 ай бұрын
McCant really be saying some real shit 🤣
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
Real bullshit!
@moz7491
@moz7491 5 ай бұрын
Watching Penny at Georgia Tech, I thought he was going to be 1 of the best...never know how things are going to turn out in one's career
@purplesky4157
@purplesky4157 5 ай бұрын
Yup that’s based of potential and many don’t reach that potential just like tmac. They going off potential but that’s a hypothetical. Luka is a fact. Luka’s potential is to be a top 5 player ever the way his career is going. Will he achieve that? We don’t know but the facts is Luka has been better than tmac in his first couple years and it’s not close. They hating big time
@kevinbeard4595
@kevinbeard4595 5 ай бұрын
Bill Russell has 11 rings...Dream went back -to-back...Kareem swept back-to-back...come on mane 🤣🤣🤣
@Jack-sj9bn
@Jack-sj9bn 5 ай бұрын
we all know why Luka doesn't get the respect he deserves. Undeniable
@andiggidyswig8097
@andiggidyswig8097 5 ай бұрын
Why do you think? Because he’s a European player or because he’s pudgy? His lame Tatoo on his back with his portrait
@Jaffytv
@Jaffytv 5 ай бұрын
So were not going to mention Luka being Top 500 in OW2?
@ericmoore4031
@ericmoore4031 5 ай бұрын
15yrs of consistency from Luka, he'll be considered the pound 4 pound 🐐
@GigglewithFelix321
@GigglewithFelix321 5 ай бұрын
Luka is great, let that young man cook
@letsssgooo4618
@letsssgooo4618 5 ай бұрын
Problem is his body looks 35. He needs to get himself in shape if he’s going to last past 30
@BlackSheep703
@BlackSheep703 5 ай бұрын
Some people are just genetically predisposed to being doughy , look at chris pual.
@jefeseason4990
@jefeseason4990 5 ай бұрын
No he doesn’t his game isn’t based on athleticism.
@simplyblesd
@simplyblesd 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, he did lose weight from last year. Some estimates close to 20 points. But, I think the results of this season will convince him to be a superstar he will have to be fit Luka
@ceeb107
@ceeb107 5 ай бұрын
You got a point but it’s Guys 21-28 years old chiseled lean buff but can barely get on the court. His body type doesn’t match his game and productivity he’s a 1/1 like Patrick Mahomes is built like a 40 year old who works out 3 times a month with a slight gut but he’s the best quarterback in the NFL while Justin fields cam newton and others more lean athletic built can’t do half of what Mahomes can do. Some guys are just gifted man. Now imagine if Luka gets in tip top shape loses 25 lbs and gains muscles and a little more athleticism now he’s going to be a 5 time NBA mvp.
@rodericksasu6976
@rodericksasu6976 5 ай бұрын
His body allows him to be dominant the way it is. He can just absorb contact and push defenders off of him and create space. The only player that came close to troubling Luka had a closest built like him Lou Dort but Luka is also carrying knee issues too so.
@ronmoody3001
@ronmoody3001 5 ай бұрын
INDIVIDUALLY......LUKA IS THE BEST.... WHETHER FOLKS WANNA AGREE OR NOT
@victoryizmyinheritance4137
@victoryizmyinheritance4137 5 ай бұрын
I like Luka but the competition level is different!!! Almost all the greats play both sides of the ball.
@christianparker9808
@christianparker9808 5 ай бұрын
It’s crazy half of that list is MVP’s and he still has yet to win one
@cryptidian3530
@cryptidian3530 5 ай бұрын
Tough competition combined with being on a roster that isn't contending for a title. 2022 was the exception with Brunson having a great post-season.
@tari8134
@tari8134 5 ай бұрын
That's not crazy at all.
@KonicKicks
@KonicKicks 5 ай бұрын
Kenyon seems like another typical Luka hater. No one should be able to deny his absolute greatness. And depending on when you’re watching/reading this… game winner over Gobert to go up 2-0! GREATNESS!
@skalliwizzle
@skalliwizzle 5 ай бұрын
He about to fuck around and have Championship on that list
@Knuckle_sandwiches_boxing1925
@Knuckle_sandwiches_boxing1925 5 ай бұрын
346 million dollars for one man shooting a ball when theirs ppl that can’t afford a home shows everything wrong with this country
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
I mean it is but that’s a separate issue though! Quite frankly if athletes made what people with your thought process think they should make they honestly would be getting robbed blind because of the way things are structured for professional athletes and the money that they don’t see that goes into making this whole thing work!
@sehlordhorr8540
@sehlordhorr8540 5 ай бұрын
The people fill the arenas..
@Knuckle_sandwiches_boxing1925
@Knuckle_sandwiches_boxing1925 5 ай бұрын
@@gregharper6382 200 million is enough to make a family rich for generations. The other 146 million would literally end homelessness😂 If we started rioting and destroying these stadiums then maybe they would realize a game isn’t more important than poverty
@gregharper6382
@gregharper6382 5 ай бұрын
@@Knuckle_sandwiches_boxing1925 but the. You’d just complain about the 200 million lol
@Knuckle_sandwiches_boxing1925
@Knuckle_sandwiches_boxing1925 5 ай бұрын
@@gregharper6382 If they took 146 million out the 346 and gave it to the people that need it then I would say nothing about the 200 million that’s left over. Police and army men getting killed everyday while a foreigner gets half a billion dollars before 30 for shooting a ball😂Theirs ppl with no health insurance that could use 0.0001% of that money to change their lives. 50 million of that would be enough to give a city a $5 raise in wages
@newera5238
@newera5238 5 ай бұрын
The 76ers are my team, but Luka has been my favorite player over the past 4 years 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@DaLumpy1
@DaLumpy1 5 ай бұрын
KD is thee PERFECT comparison/analogy
@lamereohargett8897
@lamereohargett8897 5 ай бұрын
No because Luka is still on his same team
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