Gil's Arena DEBATES How Much AI Could Score in Today's NBA

Gil's Arena DEBATES How Much Allen Iverson Could Score in Today's NBA as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil’s Arena Crew reignite the debate that A.I could average 45 points if he played today and get into it, arguing over how his game translates perfectly to todays fast paced league.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Brandon vs Kenyon
12:01 Rashad Gives His Take

[@Jlmwb]

These 2000s players starting to sound like those 80s players they be arguing wit 😂😂😂😂 ironic

[@moman36]

Bruh because the 2000 player played in the slowest era teams averaging like 90 a game vs today paint wide open teams average 120. Of course they’d average more points in todays era

[@Izu_Ifed]

We done with the 90s

[@relaxingsleep9152]

It’s sad that 2000 was 20 years ago now , but every time i hear 20 years ago i think the 80s first 😅 damn we getting old

[@yanielramos3584]

So more defense played back in the day they didn’t want to get embarrassed I’m sorry today is game is like yeah coach he beat on first step so I gave up.

[@datsapaddlin]

@@moman36 yeah but your team ain’t winning nothing if you have to average over 35 ppg for a season.

[@ricxlikestone5240]

That dude Brandon be smoking that good weed before the show😂😭

[@mentalmadness1329]

Had to be

[@SGAthegoat]

high asl ain’t listening to nothing gil said

[@dntgetmadent5186]

And then have the nerve to be upset lol

[@crizstaphamarley4770]

U not lying

[@dummy999]

Brandon aint that crazy Gil here trying to say since Harden avg 35 on 450 dribbles in todays NBA that AI should avg about 105 a game on 450 dribbles cause he avg 30 on 130 😂😂

[@cipherP9]

They didn’t point it out but Brandon made their point by mentioning Wilt Chamberlain. He said Wilt was the only one to average over 40, well Wilt didn’t waste time dribbling, he would dive straight to the basket and get into position.

[@chris2k_596]

Allen Iverson 2000-2001 season averaged 31.1 PPG which lead all players that year on the 76ers team that averaged 94.7 which was 15th that year as a whole now put that A.I. in today's game where the 30th ranked PPG team (Portland Trail Blazers) is averaging 14 more points than that 76ers squad

[@Tothemoon96]

We’re putting ai in todays game not his team ..

[@SamuelJ888]

In that year, he also shot 42% from the field and 32% from three. In today's NBA if you can't hit threes and are struggle to score efficiently, they wont even run plays for you

[@sinister5713]

Also the bigs didn't play around the perimeter

[@DavidDouglas-so9sn]

@@SamuelJ888 Not true. Russell Westbrook was the MVP, Giannis was the MVP. Jimmy Butler is consistently one of the most dangerous players in the league. Damian Lilliard and Trae Young consistently shoot 42% from the field and are the main guards on their team and have led their teams to success. In that era 32% from 3 was league average similar to 35% in todays game. Its much easier to shoot 40% from 3 when you take 10 attempts as opposed to 4 attempts. Your hit 2 of 4 your 50% from 3 or you miss 1 shot and now your 25% and look like a horrible shooter, whereas the person who took 10 3's missed 6 threes and only hit 4 and is looked at as great. Your not convincing anyone with that poor arguement

[@SamuelJ888]

@@DavidDouglas-so9sn I stopped reading after you mentioned Giannis name when I said efficiency

[@NadavHbr]

I am sure AI would have averaged 143.5 points a game today.

[@tayvalid]

😂😂

[@evileyevalaus]

Ik it's a joke but 143 is crazy considering that's not far from what teams on average giving up defensively (114.7 ppg)this number is from last year btw

[@jsongz201]

@@evileyevalauslmao my 2k10 player avrg 87ppg overall 99 😂

[@OnnaMissionBoxing]

Stop Smoking Crack On Yo Breaks At Work 🤣🤣🤣

[@khleung1306]

Yes, we can tell. Thanks!

[@dbarnes6028]

AI would avg 25 points just from the free throw line

[@ImPapehungry]

He couldn’t go left. I’m not buying that

[@CEO_Teezy]

@@ImPapehungrymj couldnt either yet averaged 38 w no 3s

[@nakho3550]

Y'all didn't watch Iverson play. No way in hell he's averaging 43!

[@ImPapehungry]

@@CEO_Teezy that shit wouldn’t work today

[@BossTripp1]

@@ImPapehungrydumbest take ever.. He averaged 33 at a time when they could put hands on him and bigs were in the league.

[@KONSHENSTV]

Hardcore Iverson fan, after Jordan he and Kobe kept basketball alive with kids in Jamaica, BUT. if you think Iverson would walk around these bionic kids in the NBA u lost your damn mind. Nobody is slow nowadays, he would 100% need to get a long range heater to have even the same impact.

[@BGambino1215]

Don't forget tmac

[@Tf2GreenScout]

Love your music!

[@jocelynlabbe9749]

And AI couldn't shoot. They weren't playing that much zone in those days. It's since LeBron's first finals that zone became a thing. They're crazy if they really believe what they're saying

[@jamaalstricklin9867]

@@jocelynlabbe9749 4 scoring titles and he couldnt shoot? lmao

[@gregorylewis7620]

I think you guys are missing the point.. when AI played, the floor was compact, and yes the pace was slow..AI didn't play slow...today's game is wayyy more faster and the floor is spread out more..in today's game he would get more FG attempts and because he has more midrange than James Harden, yes give a sreal r two then there is possible 6 to 8 points..he went to the line in his hey day mostly because he was getting bump around in the paint but if Harden ave 13 FTs and you give AI at least 10 in its possible...

[@1lazzo]

He called bro “Sippy Cup” 😂😂😂💀

[@ChrisJoestarr]

So he would average 10/12 above KD and Curry? Come on now 😂 nostalgia cannot blind u this hard

[@bancopop3133]

You have no clue how ridiculously fast,quick and relentless AI was..but Kobe did😂😂😂

[@monteruntheplay9483]

@@bancopop3133ai is not a better scorer than curry and kd🤦🏾‍♂️ his bag isn’t even deeper than theirs, and he was one of the most inefficient volume shooters in his time, what makes you think he’s going to have 14 to 15 more ppg over someone that’s stronger offensively with a deeper bag and a height advantage 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Itsxmusic]

@@bancopop3133yea ok lol we all seen AI play. He’s not averaging 45 unless he’s taking 40 shots per game.

[@factsovertheyfeelings5303]

Frfr this right up AI speed this new NBA​@@bancopop3133

[@badxgrass]

​@@Itsxmusic Suddenly y'all casual youngins been watching old tapes huh? Fuck outta here with that shit. In this offense focused era, AI would get a shit ton of free throws.

[@cpthubble]

Blood shot 40% from the field and barely shot 3s. Y’all tripping

[@DevinEllis-qf3om]

They are so ignorant

[@yngsportsandhiphopchannel7918]

And yaw are clearly low IQ guys cause he was averaging that with everyone in the paint zone and no space them stats dnt tell the full tale reall ball players kno that smh

[@YOUNGAVE215]

More possessions in today's game weaker defense they call fouls alot more in today's game the game is also a faster pace I'd give Iverson 35-38

[@goatified2x]

@@YOUNGAVE215y’all both said rs they ain’t gonna see this one tho 😂😂

[@shannonriley479]

I ll prob give him 35 , but Curry , K.D prime Harden didn’t avg 45 , ain’t no way Iverson averaging 45

[@kingcane5819]

And Iverson would've been allowed to do his original crossover without getting calls

[@ssjsal2159]

Dudes can guard that better today . Back then mfs couldn’t guard a crossover because dudes didn’t do it like that

[@kingcane5819]

@ssjsal2159 OH sure. These great defenders of today would be a problem 🤣🤣

[@kingcane5819]

@ssjsal2159 You sound like a newbie to 🏀. There are literally no new crossovers today.. Defenders back then just wouldn't let you sit there and play with the ball too much.

[@jasaripayne80]

That’s cool, unless he magically becomes a sniper from 3 bro not putting up 40 regardless of whatever crossover he gonna do

[@hiphopnewsdaily9016]

@@ssjsal2159exactly the on ball defenders in todays game are on another level. more athletic, better fundamentals, more advanced moves.

[@GOATCANDIDATES]

Loved this conversation...very educational!

[@Byrdia]

The obsession with older generations scoring 40+ is crazy

[@ChrisJoestarr]

Yeah they claim every random role player back then would be a superstar today even role players is really delusional the nostalgia talk

[@stayyourpath]

@@ChrisJoestarrit’s not just nostalgia, players back then actually hustled, bled, and sweat every game. Everyone is soft and playing for highlights

[@issacwilson8331]

@@ChrisJoestarr I KNOW YOU NOT CALLING AI RANDOM

[@ChrisJoestarr]

@@issacwilson8331 did I say AI? I said random role players… for back then

[@blinblinthing]

@@stayyourpath Everyone is playing soft? 40k points comes easy now?

[@Supz35]

Jennings was losin the argument so he brought up “but is he goin to win tho” LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@datsapaddlin]

That’s honestly the most important part of playing basketball. If it doesn’t result in winning then you gotta come up with a better game plan. AI may could score that much but they definitely not winning a championship having him do that.

[@tari8134]

Brandon was right. He's just not good at arguing.

[@him37404]

Iverson was so inefficient…

[@dashahill8765]

why does it matter how much he would score if if don't translate to winning tho

[@badxgrass]

​@@him37404have you seen defensive coverages today??? AI can simply call 5 out with a high pick and roll, how the fuck do you stop him going downhill? You cannot camp the paint anymore. 😂😂😂

[@bluewave3417]

Salute to Brandon for using his brain and not getting caught up in the hype. Averaging 43 points means putting 40 on the board basically every night. There’s a reason guys don’t do it now. It takes too much energy. And it goes against the natural flow of the game. Iverson would be going 1 on 2 or 1 on 3 all game long. That makes no sense. Finally Iverson was not a great shooter. His scoring output came with a lot of missed shots. He’d probably need 40 shots a night to average 43. It’s just not happening;

[@stayyourpath]

You have no idea what you’re talking about, sorry. The reason guys aren’t doing it now is because there’s more talented scorers on the team they play on. AI was an energizer bunny and would put it all on the floor every night so that’s not an issue. And he was being bodied by big, hands on, and aggressive type of defensive play styles so of course his percentage would be lower. You take today’s game with his play and he’s easily dominating.

[@Mr.Technical300]

I come from that era and I hate these conversations, the average players today are far better than the average of yesterday. He would not score 40 a night, the superstars of yesterday were light-years away from the average players. That's not happening today

[@blinblinthing]

@@stayyourpath So AI in today's game will just magically be a more efficent shooter? No one is gonna notice he can't shoot 3s, is always going to the basket and the team will forget to clog the paint? No one is gonna notice his teammates aren't big offensive threats and start to trap him or double him? He gonna play 48 minutes and not get tired? or is he gonna play his career average minutes at a faster rate and not get tired? He's a 6 foot guy, you mean to tell me no team is looking at him as a defensive liabilty and putting him in mismatches and going to force his coach to sub him?

[@Brooklyn94269]

@@stayyourpathexactly, he would be on a team with more efficient scorers therefore forcing him to take far less shots .

[@mk3tsi]

Lmao cope more ​@@stayyourpath

[@bayejohnson6906]

AI averaging 50 in this era just because he see his competition period 😂😂😂

[@orangejuice20133]

No his not he had no left and he was short and skinny

[@dantetaylor371]

Bring AI on the show

[@xzavierkimbrough5255]

This is a must

[@thelifeoftre7372]

Less dribbling= more possessions= more opportunities to score Damn Brandon, should’ve went to college 😭🤦🏽‍♂️😭😭😭

[@BrohamOmega]

If you need more dribbles = more effective shots. then Less dribbles = Less effective shots. Harden would've been taking 40shots a game on a 34% shooting percentage. That's not good.

[@kieranj1332]

@@BrohamOmegamore effective? He’s dribbling in the same fucking spot 😂

[@Game_mods_]

More dribbles because he was the pg , meaning he brought the ball up the court. A.I didn’t bring the ball up the court. Eric Snow did.

[@blinblinthing]

Oh, more OPPORTUNITES ?? So you're admiting it also could be potentially no TOs, Charges and bad shots? Maybe I should become an NBA coach and just tell the team, just dribble less....... That's the ball.

[@blinblinthing]

@@kieranj1332 The idea is, rushing shots likely means, moving screens (TOs), dribbling into traffic, no center/ forward set in place for an offensive rebound, more player Fatigue and bad shots. There is a reason D'antoni didn't win a ring, he didn't have the talent.

[@JulianKing-yq9vp]

They are just talking about the mentality AI had. He, Kobe and MJ were trying to score the ball, no games just get a bucket. And guys like that were relentless even while being knocked down many times by real rim protectors that loved to hit people. There wasn't as much space back then and so someone was always near in the paint.

[@carloselom4461]

They talking like they playing 2k with no fatigue 😂😂😂

[@kuyo86]

That's how AI played

[@KeithEasley-vc1mb]

Well because ai played football it allowed him to have that high endurance and energy that no bball player really play with

[@901_koro_sensei3]

WE DONE WITH THE 2000s 😂😂

[@Ray1T0__]

🤣😭💯

[@SamadAmir_]

Trash ! Big trash!!

[@jumi48]

😂😂😂

[@averywilliams9434]

😂😂😂😂

[@kingspin14]

WE DONE WITH 80s and magic johson BIG TRASH

[@deckardaaron]

According to Gil, AI would shoot 45 times bc he dribbled less. Then of course he could average 40. They would lose every game

[@HeartOTC]

That’s a lot of the reason they lost back then! He was shooting to much lol

[@minjlew]

Y'all adding extra stuff. He aint say they would win. He just said he could get 40. AI would shoot 50 shots and not care at all about percentages. 😂

[@eclass1865]

Dribble less my ass and uk he going right 😂😂😂

[@deckardaaron]

@@minjlew Who you think I’m the current NBA about to let a dude shoot 50 times every game? No sir, every one is too talented now. He only got away with that bc he literally was the only offense

[@drue1209]

​@HeartOTC iverson sixers where top in the league when he was avging 30

[@KrispyKleenex365]

Thank You Gil & Mccants I never thought about the dribble difference I updated my Top 50 ALL TIME Moved Harden from #30 to #31 And A I from #31 to # 30 Am i trippin?

[@Xtremeproducts]

Rasheed would say , the numbers don’t lie.

[@Kingmac910]

Kenyon and Gil sounding like old geezers like them 80/90s players. The cycle continues huh 😂😂😂

[@slumdogrio]

How old are you?

[@Riowe]

The 2000s was a real era

[@MG-qf9gx]

@@slumdogrio he’s using his moms phone while sitting in a pair of Huggies. don’t pay em no mind lol

[@hunterdeltoro1686]

In the era with the most elite defenders. Every center at that time was 250 plus pounds. Shaq, eddt curry/ mike camby/ tim Duncan/ Alonzo nourning. All the big men today spaced out

[@williepaul9785]

Everyone ignore him lol

[@Zayah0903]

The biggest point that’s going over a lot of heads is that AI’s mentality of the game is way different from harden, KD, and curry. His mind was fuck everyone else ima get a bucket regardless. Kobe said it himself that AI would be the greatest basketball player in history if he was 4 inch taller

[@dafyyyyyy]

Just bcs Kobe said it it dont mean shit bud

[@FelipeAS311]

@@dafyyyyyyI’m tired of the Kobe glazing. Kobe is an all time great but there’s no reason to use his word to a basketball discussion

[@GirlThatsAJ]

​@@dafyyyyyyman 😂 act like his word is coming from a god or something lmao

[@thegoatmane2715]

@@dafyyyyyyits not fact that kobe said it its simply the truth. Only thing missing on ai resume is a ring. He was neck n neck with kobe n mj in pure greatness just didnt have the support like them. Everybody i know & nba players voted their all time top 5 & ai was in everybody top 5. Not kareem, not magic, not duncan but ai was in Nba players top 5 when they did a vote. One ring u can put ai in the top 10. Just one lol

[@blinblinthing]

Wouldn't he just be a 6' 4" guy shooting 31% from 3?

[@oshayhortonjxhxhx5672]

My guy Said "Is he winning?"😂

[@RuntheCompound-wt2ks]

So coaches and defenders would just sit and watch him get 40 every night. Is that what you guys think? Prime James Harden was arguably the most unguardable player in NBA history and he played close to 81 games a season and he couldn't get past 36 points. Old geezers on steroids. These guys are rewriting history. Fox, John wall, DRose, WestbrooK super fast, more athletic, bigger than Iverson don't even come close to 35 ppg. Giannis comes at you every possession and he is less than 30. Iverson would be so tired chasing players on defense and getting posted up by bigger guards that he would be throwing up air balls. Coaches would put AI on pick and rolls and post him up to death. AI would be so tired mid season he would load manage.

[@tomsmith4452]

Luka is basically doing the same thing with better efficiency.

[@aadames]

"James harden was arguably the most unguardable player in NBA history" lol

[@aadames]

fox, John wall, and drose are bad comps. okc Westbrook without Durant (or without pg) is an ok comp because of relentlessness. giannis is also an ok comp for same reason. not sure about AI getting worn down. he was the most in shape player for many years in a row. All this to say, I don't think he'd average 45. Maybe 40 cause his relentlessness and cause his team strategy required that he take 25+ shots a game

[@edgevevo698]

Lay off that crack

[@kig4794]

Harden couldnt do it b/c he wasted the clock every possession... if Harden didnt play like that i gureentee he would be able to do it as well

[@staple55]

They want him to agree with them so bad.. Totally different when McCants is on

[@ALL-Lions]

Nah they shit on him too even when he's right.

[@jordanalford4410]

Nobody gone acknowledge Gil’s Kmart head shake during an argument impersonation😂

[@sinister5713]

And coming to after being at TGIF till 3 am😂😂

[@deckardaaron]

Everybody is so skilled now and nobody is touching that smh

[@bods4dadsaquil912]

They are more skilled but there will power is weak

[@jellyfishbrained]

Embiid and Harden have come pretty close.

[@zayzaydamack]

​@@jellyfishbrained36 ain't 43 tbh

[@himmie1]

FOR SOMEONE TO AVERAGE 43 POINTS THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOOT THE BALL 32 TIMES A GAME AND 13 FREE THROWS A GAME. THATS INSANE

[@kig4794]

skills dont matter when u dont have the correct mindset

[@velianfc]

So Iverson, who was a career 43% FG scorer, who had to chuck up 28 shots.pg to reach 31ppg and was a career 31% from 3, would outscore LeBron,Steph, KD, Doncic, Embiid, Giannis, SGA, Harden…who are we foolin’? 😂😂.

[@mirrdoe6534]

Bruh dem niggas just be talking

[@dweeb6283]

These old heads are ridiculous...Allen Iverson would get 24ppg at the MOST

[@kig4794]

yes, he would

[@velianfc]

@@dweeb6283 facts, I’ll give him at most 31ppg if he chucks up 30 shots a game

[@velianfc]

@@kig4794 if he was playing for the Wizards or Pistons and was able to chuck up 50 shots a game with a 8-74 record, sure. I bet alot of players would be able to😂.

[@richjordan1737]

BJ is literally a iverson hater you remember he said Mike Connelly would cook AI 😂

[@mauriceboyd1910]

Facts

[@MrOctavon]

James Harden dribbles till the shot clock goes close to 0. While Iverson would have got 2 extra possessions. 6-8 points extra for Iverson on the other hand Harden gets 3-5 points.

[@coolbreeze1184]

Players today “Like” to score. Players like AI,Kobe and Jordan “Want” to score……. There’s a big difference between Like and Want.

[@YouReallyDontKnow]

You’re stupid if you think players like KD, Luka and SGA don’t WANT to score 😂

[@blinblinthing]

So with all that money available, all that at fame, players just leaving all that bread on the table?

[@willblick1720]

⁠@@YouReallyDontKnowKD my favorite player and he doesn’t “want” to score. He’s an efficiency demon if he put up 30 shots a game like the players from the 2000s I could agree

[@760Anthony1]

@@YouReallyDontKnowi mean let’s be realistic. Really KD luka and them should be lightyears ahead of there competition since they’re so great already? Cause that’s what ya’ll saying is that everyone in today’s league is way better than everyone back then😂😂 so why isn’t KD dropping 30 PPG? His ceiling should be astronomical 😭

[@ignacionunez4877]

I used to like this show but the glaze for the 2000s is crazy 😭

[@novelaego2404]

so

[@ramabelemodiga8404]

It’s getting so out of hand

[@GAS-bn8ys]

Tell me who plays Defense in this Era? 😂😂😂NOBODY

[@BAMA-MAN256]

EXACTLY

[@ChrisJoestarr]

Players from the 2000s glazing their era as the best no way 🤯 they all do that even wilt saying I would average 50 in the 90s MJ is average.

[@TGTBTUPoddy]

Half these kids talking don’t even know why half the guards wear No 3 😂😂😂

[@Eastsiderep40]

Funny he mentioned that T Mac 62 game. That just came on my Facebook feed literally yesterday

[@brxndaveli5834]

They act like today’s best players can’t touch AI offensively. Y’all complain when Luka or Harden have the ball a lot tf you think AI is gonna do? and without a jump shot? Lol

[@mistadavis4336]

He had a jum shot... He was not wasting opportunities on hoisting up a bunch of threes... He was in constant attack mode...

[@zayzaydamack]

​@@mistadavis4336he shot from the field what players shoot from the 3 these days

[@blinblinthing]

@@zayzaydamack You apparently don't need an arsenal to dominate.

[@DreamFactories]

@@mistadavis4336Yes he was lol plus his FG% and TS% was lower than the previous players mentioned. So he’d have to shoot the ball more than them to even get the numbers they got. And now you’re telling me he would score 10 plus more points per game, on worse efficiency? So you want dude to shoot the ball 35 times a game basically 🤣🤣🤣

[@kig4794]

@@DreamFactories it would be better efficiency since the area he shoots from isnt as crowded

[@BizzyBlount08]

If he not passing the ball what is the threat of 4 shooters??🤣🤣🤣

[@sakpase88]

Still need spacing

[@BizzyBlount08]

@sakpase88 what's the point of spacing if you not passing... sooner or later they gonna see.. hey he not passing out of double teams.... send the triple

[@PirateD.KingLuffy]

@@BizzyBlount08that’s when passing comes into to play. When someones man is wide open hitting 3s they gonna have to stay on them.

[@BizzyBlount08]

@PirateD.KingLuffy they literally said oh he not gonna pass the ball 🤣🤣🤣

[@jreal197]

Defense

[@cross6588]

His assists would be high. Brandon did you ever watch AI play 😂.

[@Haddonfield63]

They was killin AI back then for shooting the ball so much.

[@LandofPunt1]

Iverson has 4 scoring titles. The only active player with that many is Kevin Durant.

[@iamrysheem]

But he shouldnt have because he was a horrible shooter. Kd scoring titles are on like 49% shooting with the three ball. Iverson was just allowed to sell tickets. And as someone from philly i feel the same about embiid. Player who have glaringly large holes in their games(embiid is he cant play many.) yet still are hyped up because people cant think past empty stats.

[@gangstagummybear3432]

@@iamrysheem 49 percent is nice, i would respect it more if it didnt require 3s to get that high though, and a higher volume, its easy to score a higher percentage when you can swap out shooting for dunking if you want, iverson didnt have that luxury all of his attempts were some kind of shot, and against way tougher defense.

[@prollyhigh9335]

@@gangstagummybear3432cap its harder tryna score ona 6’6+ dude w 7ft+ wingspan thts agile

[@iamrysheem]

@@gangstagummybear3432 the crazy thing is people actually liked your reply. 3 point shooting actually drags down the shooting percentage. Its a harder shot to make. He’s 6’11”. If he scored less than 50 percent at the basket thats a problem. What you said in response to me makes no sense.

[@gangstagummybear3432]

@@iamrysheem It isnt a harder shot to make, not in the current era, thanks to the spacing, with its volume being so much lower than 2's it is going to be a higher impact on the total field goal percentage even if you only make 40% of them, the mid range areas are harder guarded so that makes the mid range alot harder to shoot, the proof is in the pudding, with the influx of swapping out high volume 2s for lower volume of total shots, but more 3s all the field goal percentages have gotten higher, what I said in response makes total sense if you have a brain.

[@RobertMitchell-ws6uw]

I love their chemistry!! It's like being at the barbershop.....Brandon need to smoke a blunt and think about his argument 😅😅

[@jamaalstricklin9867]

"We done....dead body"....perfect edit.

[@brxndaveli5834]

Until guys like Ja and Kyrie score more, don’t tell me AI at his size with no jump shot is avg more than 35 ppg

[@SunniChamp]

He average 27 for a career and averaged 33 for season without a jumper in the hardest defensive era. 5 seasons average 30 plus

[@DevinEllis-qf3om]

@@SunniChamplook at the efficiency

[@DevinEllis-qf3om]

@@SunniChamphardest defensive era? The one were they couldn’t shoot threes like todays game so shots would be wide open?

[@SunniChamp]

@@DevinEllis-qf3om what that have to do with average 30 plus and winning games nothing

[@juandelacruzcooking5009]

​@@SunniChampAI only crossover to his right and the so called hardest defensive era don't know that. Up until Patrick Beverly said that to AI. Watch it in Shaq's podcast.

[@quxncy9492]

since A.I left the league there been at least 25+ players who are way better scorers but none of them have averaged 40, why in the world do people think A.I would be able too??

[@ImPapehungry]

They don’t appreciate todays game

[@kalinbyrd9906]

Bro Jennings is not in this. If A.I dropping 40 um yea Michael and Kobe prob would too 😆 he said young Melo smh 🤦🏽

[@jahyahweh2226]

AI looks to score every possession. Either yall slow or don't understand his intent. Better bag doesn't mean they are better scorers jus more moves. No one and I repeat NO ONE is staying in front of Iverson. Gil once said Iverson that try hard white boy who jus won't quit but with God giving talents. If he would have had kobe or mike work ethnic and size we wouldn't be having this conversation. Yall devaluing what Mike, Kobe , and Shaq has said about that guy.

[@jordanbrown1094]

So you just straight up lying AI had averaged over 30 3-4 times and has 3-4 scoring titles who else playing today has that

[@theanswer7569]

25 plus players that are better scorers?? What type drugs are you using?? How dare you say such blasphemy

[@KingDavidTBE]

They made a good point that "Ai" would be trying too 😂 I mean i guess

[@rslifestyle1038]

He said monte Ellis like he’s iverson lmao 😂😂😂

[@jatintyagi3523]

Nah, 43 is crazy. I'm with Jennings on this one. Their love for AI is talking

[@BigDicnigga-eh4kj]

They play no defense he plays in the paint

[@BigDicnigga-eh4kj]

If he adv 31 back in a tougher era it's not a stretch.

[@elsamurai1220]

Nah, the argument is there. AI is the antithesis of what the game is today. And he did it in an era where the paint was clogged and when you did get to the rim, you were getting knocked on your butt. At 6' (maybe) and at 165lbs. (also maybe). 4x NBA scoring champion. He would absolutely torch todays NBA. Even Gil said, maybe not 43 but it will be close. 💯💯

[@Jiujitsuspecialist]

​@@elsamurai1220 lmao nah

[@elsamurai1220]

@@JiujitsuspecialistOK brandon.. 😂😂

[@dinomahmutovic3649]

Watch how slow an NBA game is from Iverson's era. No way in hell is he playing 40 minutes a game today when he has to chase shooters and run around screens all game.

[@blinblinthing]

Exactly. Him playing faster and then playing defense on someone playing fast too is PLENTY of Fatigue. Plus, what happens when you force AI to guard mismatches when he plays D?

[@AlmightyDerrickRose]

@@blinblinthingteam defense way better now. Way better schemes. Way more versatile defenders too

[@kevindsmith10000]

AI wasn't a defender like that he's not chasing shit. He played the passing lanes. His teammates chased. AI was a scorer.

[@kig4794]

if Harden and Luka can stay in games for around 37-38 mins what makes u think AI isnt staying in for 40+???????

[@MIZ0217]

​@@kig4794AI isnt the playmaker those guys are so their lack of defense isnt going to be that big of an issue as iverson whos also a bigger liability on defense cause of his size.

[@frederickwillis4621]

What episode is this?

[@MrCasey__]

McCants telling BJ to prove a hypothetical situation😂

[@ohiomadejay]

like what, they cant prove he would avg 40 either bc he never did

[@KingG82]

I swear these old heads think anyone back in the day scoring 10 more ppg just because the game is different like the guys now aren’t more skilled more athletic and longer overall

[@ImPapehungry]

It blows my mind man.

[@aadames]

the game is different.... and they not saying "anyone". only very specific type players who had a big scoring motor and a green light.

[@darrianaldridge1057]

They forgetting part of the reason harden was successful with all of those dribbles is it naturally lulls you to sleep before he kills you with a deadly quick step back or a easy blow by

[@aadames]

@@darrianaldridge1057 that's a good style for individual stats, but not for the team overall

[@mistadavis4336]

​@@aadamesTell Luka that..

[@factsovertheyfeelings5303]

This New NBA AI will go Brazy out here 🤧

[@sakpase88]

Facts 😂

[@SnoGo902]

Stop the cap 🧢

[@elijahdratte1118]

Facts no cap at all. He’s too fast for these locks today. And he pull up with blinders at 6 ft. and get steals. He would go crazy today

[@SnoGo902]

@@elijahdratte1118 well tell him to prove then

[@prollyhigh9335]

⁠@@elijahdratte1118fast but short they touchn his shots

[@antoniofba667]

That dribble stat won the argument for Iverson because he would have way more possessions which means more shooting attempts which means it’s likely he can score 40+ ppg.

[@rmmr4861]

Harden averaged 11 assists per game that year so yeah he’s gonna dribble more

[@Kizamusic]

More shot attempts? He already shot 25 shots a game. One year he even shot 28 shots a game. I highly doubt he’s gonna take 30+ shots a game in today’s league.

[@dillonsparks115]

​bro don't like James dribbled more because he took 50 years of the shot clock to do a stepback or make a shot lets not act like he was playing like a true pg he's a sg that playes the pg

[@clavinthomas3338]

Lmao they want him to agree so bad 😂😂

[@shawn31589]

I think it’s hard to articulate how quick and fast AI was.

[@Civilwartrucks]

If a coach is willing to put up with you scorn 40 points a game on 40% shooting that is crazy

[@ghostface3652]

If he shot 45% at 6ft tall in todays game thats not bad tho

[@adgee5401]

Only you nerds give a fuck about shooting percentage. Go win

[@AaronMich90]

@@adgee5401the point of the game is to make shots not miss them 😂😂😂

[@GirlThatsAJ]

​@@adgee5401caring about someone scoring efficiently is "nerdy" huh lmao. I'd rather be a nerd than mentally challenged like you unfortunately

[@tapg6736]

You also have to take into account that when he was driving to the lane there were two bigs trying to stop him. Those missed layups had an effect on his fg %. Today there wouldn’t be anyone there besides guys like Gobert and a couple other bigs.

[@Folawaka]

James harden was a maniac in houston

[@kinglileverything]

There's a 300 dribble difference

[@jauwannr]

Exactly... James harden possibly was the greatest score ever during those Houston years and the most he average was 36

[@jauwannr]

Exactly... James harden possibly what's the greatest score ever during those Houston years and the most he average was 36

[@NebraskaPoliceDepartment]

2019 Harden Was Crazy

[@shinsukecorbin425]

And he didn’t average 40..

[@haroldbrown6173]

BJ just wasnt understanding what they was trying to tell him lol

[@dhambo1100updates]

He averaged 33 points in a zone defense, he can get 7 more points with today’s game structure

[@troylee4196]

And the team will go 20-62 Dude will get injured trying to score rather than win

[@kingchiles4328]

AI is not averaging 40, not even MJ.

[@Racoons4Change]

People saying mj would average 45 kill me. The defense couldn’t even shadow or zone. It was only man to man and if you didn’t hard double it’s a tech on the defense. You can’t soft double in the 80s or 90s

[@kyleflores9385]

@@Racoons4Change True. MJ cant even go left. mj averaging 30-35 max. he just jaylen brown but bald.

[@cbm3]

MJ averaged 37 during a season in the 80s. He’d definitely average 40+ now

[@digbick6265]

@@kyleflores9385 im a C's fan but ur high

[@iamrysheem]

@@kyleflores9385the problem with people who say things like this is he was already averaging 35-37 while getting the shit beat out him. They hard fouled him every time. He just put on muscle. Mj is a 10x scoring champ. Even with the 3 ball and game that are like 30-40 points higher than when he played. None of these new player have come close to his average. Im sorry MJ was a uber competitive psychopath. He’d fuck around and start shooting 3’s. You cant even say players today are more athletic because he still has the highest recorded vertical in the nba. He also was a great two way player. He went hard on defense and still would drop 40. These new guys do not have that kind of energy. Im sorry. The mj hate is wild.

[@user-ml2je5hs8u]

Rashad : STAT STAT MAN YEAH THAT’S ME!!! Also Rashad: GIVE ME SOME METRICS B!!!

[@youngwodros]

This is the comment I was looking for lol 😂

[@herb3099]

Rashad saying “back it up Brandon” is a crazy pause 😂

[@garfieldbright]

loved this episode. not Hollywood--just a REAL build on a hot topic. BTW...AI is averaging low 40's today with his style of play and the lack of real defense in todays game.

[@josh0253]

You're telling me right now A.I would be averaging more points than 7'0 300 pound joel embiid who shoots 88% from the ft line and 37% from 3?? You're out of your mind bro people need to stop this 😂😂😭, i wish one day someone would come on here and be honest and be like like "you know actually he'd probably average the same amount of points as he did back then cause he couldnt shoot threes so guys would just sag off of him which would ruin the rest of the offensive action like the pick and roll so yeah he played in the perfect era" 😂

[@haroldbrown6173]

But you have to do era adjustment...embiid in those 90-2000s era ain't shooting those 3s like that either he would have had to take his big ass down on the block and also be defender ... so you have to era adjust A.I for today's game ... I'm not saying 40pts but dammit it would be close

[@stanleed.harold5457]

Easily

[@joshuafrazier3532]

Embiid doesn’t play the whole game like Allen Iverson did

[@williedakid263]

Boy stop it joel embid is not no A.I

[@Kizamusic]

@@joshuafrazier3532 if A.I was in this era he wouldn’t play the whole game either

[@playoffp6045]

Praising ball hogging and shot chucking is so funny to me , if any coach allowed iverson to throw up 40 shots a night in todays game they should be fired immediately

[@kinglileverything]

I think Kobe did the same thing

[@662Cno]

This day in age AI would have to play defense, that being said he would average around 33-36 points

[@iansmith5416]

“We understand SIPPY CUP …..” Mcants usually gets on my nerves but I loved this one . Thank you

[@keepinitstylish3082]

Brandon Jennings is so focused on the act of dribbling that he's not smart enough to realize the point is the math is in Allen Iverson's favor. Time is not infinite. More shot attempts in a shorter window means Allen Iverson has a much better chance of scoring 40 than the guards today that spend half the clock dribbling.

[@saqwaanmcguire227]

Na you tweaking. AI not averaging 43 a night.

[@kingme4]

@@saqwaanmcguire227I also think 43 is ridiculous but based on the math....it’s not crazy it actually makes sense ..harden averaging 400 dribbles is nuts.

[@tyreck9835]

More shot attempts in a shorter window also means AI has a much better chance of missing those shots

[@blinblinthing]

@@tyreck9835 Exactly. These dumb lazy arguments need to stop. Simply saying if Player X took more 3s will lead to more PPG doesn't address him missing more shots which is why he didn't chuck them up in the first place.

[@Brooklyn94269]

Todays league wouldn’t allow AI to get off that many shots at that low of an efficiency. Harden was one of the most efficient players in the league with the amount of 3s he shot and his playmaking. AI doesn’t provide any of that and he would be DESTROYED on defense

[@Atreyu94]

Iverson arms are long. I noticed that too. His arm span has to be crazy

[@dweeb6283]

His wingspan is only 6'3

[@mr.j410]

Jennings had a point with his question. It's true that he would avg 40 if he had his shit team like he did back then. That's important to mention

[@lorenzoyoung698]

Exactly people aren't looking at the team Iverson was on, he would literally have to have that same team with no shooters around in today's game were he would be taking majority of the shots

[@marcusnellums6620]

Hell knowl.. Nuff said.😂😅

[@mistadavis4336]

Most of the viewers of Gil's Arena have never watched Iverson beyond highlights or any players from before 2015... So if you were not able to witness something its hard for you to fathom the idea that something was better than what you are receiving currently... I get it...

[@bayareabully100]

Facts

[@eclipsewoa]

They have no idea what AI was trying to do. He was always in attack mood

[@AlmightyDerrickRose]

@@eclipsewoareason why he was so inefficient

[@456rep]

I watch ai play his a ball hog shooting 25 fga with only 41 percent fg percentage

[@jreal197]

Can't nobody else on that team score

[@jamaloliver6940]

he averaged 30 with 25 shots🤣 and thats against those slow big guys who cant guard the perimeter and run around with him,so to get that much he needs atleast 30 shots and what damn player getting that a game? makes 0 sense,the guy was just a worst shooting kyrie in that era

[@bruggytee]

literally would average 22 today, probably looking like a taller IT

[@jamaloliver6940]

@@bruggyteeexactly,or he would just be chucking up shots on a losing team which wouldnt last long,because in the NBA today you need 2 all start level talents and no one gonna want to play with a man just taking all those shots

[@gangstagummybear3432]

Everyone in previous eras with actual defense put up that many shots to get 30, unless they were dunking for all their attempts, big deal

[@bruggytee]

@@jamaloliver6940 yeah he’s a good shooter between 10-17 feet, can’t defend consistently and takes horrible shots. at best he’s Cam Thomas

[@prollyhigh9335]

they centers was as tall as our pgs😭😭 ai nice but alot of his shots gettn touched

[@ericmartinez3422]

No matter what Era it is.. that's crazy to think over 82 games someone can score 43 points a game. Maybe Jordan, but even for him that would be soon hard

[@ianmista619]

2000s players are staring to sound like Old heads😭 I’m giving him 30-34 max but he’s NOT averaging 40+ with a broken jumper

[@MarkPerchatsch]

AI shot 31% from beyond the arc for his career. He’s not averaging over 40 in today’s game.

[@bancopop3133]

You sound ridiculous...the 3 wasn't part of his game. With the floor spacing today he'd get the extra 10 points off free throws due to the fact you can't touch him. There is no player that could even match the non stop energy of AI ...with that speed😂😂😂 put down the weed.

[@MarkPerchatsch]

@@bancopop3133You’re acting like there are no help defenders in the NBA. They aren’t gonna allow that to happen.

[@logicalman1172]

​@@MarkPerchatsch The problem is AI was one of the quickest basketball players of all time speed translates better in this generation.

[@MarkPerchatsch]

@@logicalman1172Speed alone is not going to increase your scoring average by 7 PPG. I don’t think yall understand just how drastic of a jump that is.

[@DevinEllis-qf3om]

@@bancopop3133HE AVERAGED 10 FREETHROWS HIS WHOLE CAREER DO YOUR RESEARCH IDIOT

[@jaypos444]

AI is not averaging 43 fucking points STOP IT!

[@drizzho]

How does the dribble argument not make sense ? 3 shot attempts in 24 seconds creates more shots and more points than 1 shot attempt every 20 seconds.

[@AmadoFuentes23]

16:15 bro please look at Brandon face after🤣

[@scottcooper444]

Iverson would go crazy today

[@bobbyalistor]

aint no way he getting 45, without being a great 3pt shooter, thats like 30+ shots, with 5+ FTs on efficient shooting teammates couldn’t get into a rhythm, and thats just easy target on defense for great playmakers nowadays

[@gangstagummybear3432]

Theres no such thing as efficient if you are shooting under 100% anyways dumbass

[@sturdyharris8320]

15:59 449 dribble per possession 😂😂 caught himself

[@Athleticchamp0910]

I don’t doubt he could score 43 point In a few games but realistically ever night sounds crazy considering fatigue

[@ImPapehungry]

It’s time y’all put some respect on today’s game

[@thehideoutbarandgril]

Played against some current college players and journeyman I’m 44 and they thought I was nice. I never came close to making the nba. They got range but no game. They not trying to destroy on a daily basis. They just play to what’s giving.

[@IWill_iTV]

Gil's Social Media Manger: Put the words "Allen Iverson" in the title for more views, not everyone types in the letters "AI" 👍

[@jellyfishbrained]

Not gaming the algorithm at all

[@IWill_iTV]

@@jellyfishbrained that’s not gaming the algorithm because its not clickbait his name is Allen Iverson they don’t put videos up to get less views you troll

[@julianwilson5607]

Nobody ever in their prime is averaging 40 pts a game in this era because teams will blitz you at half court and make you pass the ball. If 1 guy is taking at least 25 or more shots a game, he's gonna wear out by the end of the season too. If franchises want to win, no 1 guy is gonna give you 40 pts a game all season. Elite championship teams want role players comfortable taking big time high % shots in the biggest games in the playoffs especially on the road.

[@CommonNotCommon24-7]

McCants makes me laugh without trying 😂😂😂😂

[@rusone2516]

I think it's like 3-5 players in NBA history that could've put up 40+ppg if they wanted to, in this era. With so much small ball play and very little focus on interior Defense/ Defenders. Prime-MJ, Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, and Kobe. and a few more that might come close. Like AI...

[@taetrrtot6205]

Real ass take

[@tari8134]

This is an insane take. If Embiid isn't averaging 40+ then Wilt, Shaq and Kareem not doing it either. I think people are confusing scoring 40 with averaging 40. It's crazy difficult to average 40 points over 82 games.

[@the2ndKent]

Somebody who knows ball.

[@taetrrtot6205]

@@tari8134 Embiid isn't as good as Shaq, Kareem, and Wilt and even he was close to 40 this year

[@ImPapehungry]

MJ didn’t do it when they had “illegal defensive rules” what makes y’all believe he would do it today? Todays defense is more advanced. Jordan never seen a zone defense

[@ah4646]

Is starting to become annoying how godly they making AI look. Yeah he was something special but he wasn't a good shooter he not taking 100 layups not in this era.

[@GodSon91]

Because he was godly you never seen it that’s why brother

[@ah4646]

@GodSon91 brother I'm 35 lmaoo that was my favorite player and Steve Nash. I'm speaking from actually seeing AI he was great af not godly he was tough and durable not out of this world. These days he's mid at best his heart will be gold but his skill mid. That's no lie stop Cap'n

[@ah4646]

When you see AI highlights all you see is layups and crossovers nothing else a few shots here and there nothing where is crazy cause he sucked at shooting.

[@GodSon91]

Wait whatttttttt bruh are u serious basketball is basketball bruh you supposed to shoot & score don’t matter how u do it my guy he accomplished a lot doing it as well…..😂😂😂😂

[@Jay62812]

@@GodSon91dude stfu, AI is not averaging 40 stop it

[@StuntmanBeatz313]

That dribble stat is really important… AI averaged 3 less points, in way less possessions, on 250+ less dribbles..

[@lorenzoyoung698]

Niggas is acting like they can't understand that

[@BiggHomieG]

Guarding ai with the ball vs chasing Steph without the ball lmao 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@Sitrastic]

I don’t think he would average 40 on any team today, but the rules of the shot clock after an offensive rebound from 24 to 14 inflated stats so much. I can see AI around 35 a game with him and a bunch of shooters. Similar to Isaiah Thomas in Boston.

[@mikeillgaming4224]

💯

[@khaosflare]

AI is one of the reasons I picked up a basketball. He is not AVERAGING 43 points in today's game.

[@TGTBTUPoddy]

He averaging 45 😂😂😂

[@khaosflare]

@TGTBTUPoddy definitely not. If LEBRON, KD, STEPH, KYRIE etc. some of the best shooter and scorers basketball has ever seen not doin it, AI definitely aint.

[@TheStones92]

@@TGTBTUPoddyIverson is exactly why I picked up a ball, wore a headband, and got cornrows and I say he’s definitely not averaging 43. Saw his whole career

[@TGTBTUPoddy]

@@TheStones92 he’s the reason I still cry myself to sleep watching the sixes lose 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@calebblack23]

WE DONE WITH THE 90s 😂😂

[@krocs]

Come on Gil.... that outfit cuz.... you look like a Wal-mart "greeter" today. When you stood up you reminded of my 75 year old dad :)

[@daboycarswell]

Iverson definitely avg 40 in today’s game if he really wanted to

[@jonathansykes4986]

If he took 32-35 shots a game. Sure.