I hate that people just completely disregard defense as part of a player's game these days.
@adgee540116 сағат бұрын
The sports leagues leaned into the entertainment aspect of the game. Rules have made it difficult to play defense so only the ones that care enough or the ones that have no choice but to play defense in the NBA.
@mlkt855015 сағат бұрын
At the end of the day it’s about putting the ball in the hoop. A big reason why Phil deferred to Kukoc in that Knick series end of the game.
@mykeacuna15 сағат бұрын
I'm not disregarding defense. The argument was your first round pick. I'm not picking a defense first guy as my first round pick. I need someone that will be a game changer right away.
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m15 сағат бұрын
@@mykeacunaI’ll just pick a Magic Johnson and be done with it.
He averaged like 20/6/6 in the finals all time while guarding the opposing team's best player. He's solidified.
@rtoomer9215 сағат бұрын
FYI Just because Scottie is an all time #2 doesn't take away from his actual ability. He was #2 to the GOAT.
@BeeN-fy2jh14 сағат бұрын
He didn't guard Drexler or Magic more than MJ in those 91 and 92 series Horace Grant guarded Barkley. Rodman guarded Shawn Kemp and Karl Malone. This false narrative that scottie always guarded the best player is used to mask the fact that he ain't really on that level. No mvps or major accolades to speak of.
@willtdabuff6414 сағат бұрын
Scottie over curry kd and jokic. Stop talking basketball man
@michaelcephus385014 сағат бұрын
@@hendrikdalnoot1989 Jordan stop guarding Magic they switched. Remember Mike is #1 option on offense too
@michaelcephus385014 сағат бұрын
KD and DWade play defense
@Dantana77310 сағат бұрын
The shade towards Scottie Pippen and his skill set as a basketball player is Crazy. Pip Could affect the outcome of the game without scoring/ being the number one option. Can Play 4 positions and defend 4 positions. Being from Chicago and watching it in real time, Amazing times & memories. Salute to Pippen When He was the main option in the 93/94 Season he lead the bulls to a 55-27 record second in the central divison and 3rd overall in Eastern conference. lead the bulls in 5 major stat categories, Himself and two of his teammates made the all-star team that season All Star Game MVP and 3rd place in MVP voting. Tex Winter the coach who is credited with developing & popularizing the triangle offense said himself that Scottie Pippen skill set was perfect for that offense. Team success with 6 rings averaging 20/6/6 in the finals while guarding the best player on the other team.
@87mchale.713 сағат бұрын
Stop with this myth that Scotty always checked the best player it's false and annoying. Scotty isn't top 30. Jermaine O'Neal led the pacers to the best record in the NBA in 2004 guess he's top 30.
@martinwestfa49633 сағат бұрын
@@87mchale.71 i 2004.... how many years did scottydo it. Without scotty mike doesnt hve 6.
@FIELDRaw33 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂Scottie always got his respect from fans and peers, Scottie Pippen is disrespecting himself 😂😂😂
@87mchale.713 сағат бұрын
@@martinwestfa4963 Scotty never led his team to the best record in the league. U don't actually believe that with all the elite teams and players that MJ could've played with.
@derekandkaty45932 сағат бұрын
@@martinwestfa4963without Mike, Scottie doesn’t have 1
@resist158114 сағат бұрын
No intelligent or unbiased person would ever choose Pippen over Lebron. With that said, Pippen is an all time great.
@skyblaze184king923 минут бұрын
You put that perfectly.
@marckusblx821910 минут бұрын
Not at anytime!
@sigmams4952Минут бұрын
Depending the team I’d take pippen. I’d rather have Kobe and pippen then Kobe and Bron
@resist158126 секунд бұрын
@@sigmams4952 gimme Kobe/Bron all day. Kobe will be open on every shot.
@roberttoocool380816 сағат бұрын
Scottie was a great player the disrespect of this man is crazy top 50 and 75 player in NBA history.
@brittanywilson936116 сағат бұрын
Dwight howard could easily replace him
@lendalejohnson486616 сағат бұрын
People disrespect him because he’s a disrespectful guy 😂
@BeeN-fy2jh16 сағат бұрын
Where's the disrespect? He was a bonafide sidekick. A really good one, but a sidekick.
@JP-vy7ez15 сағат бұрын
Under ZERO circumstances does any reasonable person take Scottie over Joker! That is madness
@gifi1115 сағат бұрын
What disrespect? Pippen was nice, yes, but he played with MJ. Pippen never did anything as an #1 option
@JohnDoe-db6rr10 сағат бұрын
Kenyon said he picking pippen over Kobe 😭😭😭 im crying. They act like girls sometimes just saying shit just so they won’t be wrong 😂😂
@llock3hart10 сағат бұрын
Other than his athleticism, Kobe was mediocre coming out of the draft.
@gillyblank438010 сағат бұрын
@@llock3hart mane, you even got to admit they were off. Especially picking J Kidd over Pippen, but not Wemby off attributes...
@LONGLIVEHANA8 сағат бұрын
Literally bro 😂😂Man lost me he said Scotty over Ai 😔 then kobe Rip this nxxxa wild!
@denk6647 сағат бұрын
No GM would pick Pippen over Kobe or AI yall trippin
@joelsandjong27777 сағат бұрын
@@denk664y’all looking at accolades, he was talking purely off ability
@Bigkuntry5016 сағат бұрын
That "you do number 2 stuff" had me rolling 😂😂😂😂
@donaldb9315 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@BigDogg5019113 сағат бұрын
Facts 😂😂
@Flyc213 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂lmfooooo😊
@datsapaddlin10 сағат бұрын
All respect to Scottie but I’m pretty sure Lebron and Jordan would have always been beating the Pistons if they was on the same team
@chapaleto7 сағат бұрын
Kenyon was too high
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m16 сағат бұрын
Scottie Pippen played his role on the Bulls and they won championships.
@johnjovanovichwick419416 сағат бұрын
As the number 2 option
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m16 сағат бұрын
@@johnjovanovichwick4194Every championship team had a no.2 who played their role on said team.
@CraignDayDay00715 сағат бұрын
@@johnjovanovichwick4194jordan needed pippen, scottie was a dawg
@johnjovanovichwick419415 сағат бұрын
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m as long as u know he was a glorified number 2 all that other shit don’t matter
@williamvaughn441815 сағат бұрын
@@johnjovanovichwick4194what is a glorified number 2? Jordan doesn’t have a winning season without Scottie on the roster .. so what makes him “glorified “
@Mauro-h3n8 сағат бұрын
Scottie for sure underrated , he was putting up franchise player offense and all nba 1st team defense when Jordan was out
@skipjohnson915 сағат бұрын
& fucking lost when it mattered
@GLENISgotastorytotell4 сағат бұрын
22 ppg is franchise player offense???? Lol
@quietflow207156 минут бұрын
But he still begged for mj to come back cus he couldn’t do it on his own and he quit on his time you forgot that ?
@dpsplayer391512 сағат бұрын
Kenyon lost me when he said he’d take Scotty over Steph, Kobe and Jokić.
@mdotcom0912 сағат бұрын
well be lost
@whitewidow751712 сағат бұрын
Its about attributes not what the player has done no one listing what he is saying what Scottie could do his Attributes not what the player has done he absolutely better then all those 3 scottie did everything
@Jetstoned2311 сағат бұрын
@whitewidow7517 so jonathan bender 6"10 long can jump..
@Ahmari22311 сағат бұрын
@@pickleballroadlesstraveled u drunk. Hes the perfect complimentary player. Hes not the lead dog
@jasoncalhoun126211 сағат бұрын
Scottie could guard all 3 of those guys in a game That’s what’s going over y’all head An when haven’t seen Curry an Jokic in a hand checking era so who’s to say that they would even be the same players
@younglord77711 сағат бұрын
Kmart literally said he’s going off attributes but then gets asked about wemby then says “no he’s 12 years old” just moving the goalpost
@llock3hart10 сағат бұрын
Wemby is physically really small compared to a Scottie.
@michaelbest47399 сағат бұрын
That's like saying Rose in his 1st 3 years, of course he's a beast statically but Wemby doesn't have enough of a sample size to be in the conversation
@YOUNGAVE2159 сағат бұрын
They were going off the the top 75 list that's why he said that
@jsongz2012 сағат бұрын
Wemby is good but he still young, got to give him enough time..plus he talking about top 75
@Numbers-mc2ks2 сағат бұрын
@@michaelbest4739same with Scottie as a number one to be claiming you gon draft him over dwade and kawhi lmaooo wen y attributes alone probably would have him top 20 or 10 pick if we goin off kenyon logic
@johnswizzle444210 сағат бұрын
People will downplay scottie to make jordan look better but then people say hes better than bron. NBA dialogue is cooked.
@joseph55896 сағат бұрын
Jordan better than LeBron
@johnswizzle44425 сағат бұрын
@joseph5589 100% but the narrative is cooked. Can't even gauge Scottie right. Hes not better than LeBron but he's not just some #2 Michael Jordan carried every year. He's in the middle of those two statements.
@DarrellHardy-p8q3 сағат бұрын
@@joseph5589Jordan is 💯% better than Lebron
@87mchale.713 сағат бұрын
@@johnswizzle4442Scott isn't top 30. No one is downplaying him. Does Scotty even reach the same heights without MJ?
@krces13 сағат бұрын
@@87mchale.71he is top 30.Its team sport and he is top 5 or 6 small forward of all time
@jasdhamrat723515 сағат бұрын
The first time MJ retired Scottie Pippen led the Bulls to 55 wins. He was the first player in NBA history to lead his team in all 5 major statistical categories. He was All-Star Game MVP. First Team All-NBA, First Team All-NBA Defence, First in steals and 3rd in MVP voting. Gil has no idea, only pays attention to people who shoot 20 plus shots to score 30 plus points. Scottie affected winning more than any player we have ever seen. 6 Rings
@travisdurham2915 сағат бұрын
What happened the following year?
@truthonly-15 сағат бұрын
EVER? I MEAN EVER. NAH
@HoopsRaccoon15 сағат бұрын
He can do everything. Him, lebron, grant hill, magic are guys who are tall and can do everything in the basketball court in their prime, offense and defensive studs. These players are super rare.
@allidoiswin989115 сағат бұрын
Yea no doubt he would be 1st round in all time draft. You could put any kind of player around him and make it work
@gifi1115 сағат бұрын
@@travisdurham29or that same year he is referring too lol
@lookagainthenagain15 сағат бұрын
As a person from Chicago growing up watching the bulls, I've seen plenty of games where Scottie was guarding the best player hitting big shots too
@latreviuswhite412813 сағат бұрын
Facts as a Huge Bulls fan there were times where Pippen was my favorite player bc he did so many ig things to effect the game
@Dantana77310 сағат бұрын
Facts
@tolubewaji876610 сағат бұрын
That doesn’t make him LeBron tho
@mostmost17 сағат бұрын
Many did that. Scottie choked alot
@Wisestomatoe6 сағат бұрын
You know mj fans just like to downplay him
@realkingreco51 минут бұрын
I love Scottie and he is unquestionably one of the greatest basketball players to ever live… He is also an example of why you should let your legacy speak for itself.
@jimbo2658215 сағат бұрын
As soon as Gil brought up Ben Simmons Kmart wanted to get off of the attribute train as soon as possible because he knew he’d have to say he would be top 30 all time too.
@patdeezy71610 сағат бұрын
Scottie was a better shooter than Ben Simmons though
@Dajuiceman9 сағат бұрын
@@patdeezy716Yea 32% on ya career is definitely worth noting 😭, mf ain’t no shooter yall be saying anything
@shardstraws17 сағат бұрын
exactly 💯💯
@SirEmoSapien7 сағат бұрын
@@patdeezy716 Pippen has a career average of 47% FG in regular season and 44% in playoffs. Ben simmons has a career average of 56% regular season and 57% playoffs avg. We all have access to these stats, why are we BS'n?
@WarriorKidd066 сағат бұрын
That just goes to show how disappointing of a career Ben’s has turned into
@michaelcallaghan932015 сағат бұрын
Thank all the gods in the world that K mart and Rashad are not responsible for drafting or putting together any type of team. Jeez that was dumb
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
They pay attention to all around players and compatibility. You focus on iso players and individuals.
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
@@younglove3362 so you're agreeing Kenyon picking Scottie over Jokic/Curry/Kobe??? MAke it make sense.. It ain't about "iso players and individuals", you're the GM and all-time draft round 1 you gonna pick Scottie???????????????????????????????
@Kidimo_13 сағат бұрын
@@younglove3362with that dumb logic, you’d probably go with draymond green, ben simmons, grant hill, penny hardaway, josh smith before alot of those players as well. you see how dumb that logic is?
@cylvaniaallen449812 сағат бұрын
@@Kidimo_none of those people were all around players like Scottie. There are plenty of number one guys. I can easily name 30 number 1 guys. How many guys can you name that do everything?
@Kidimo_11 сағат бұрын
@@cylvaniaallen4498 nah remember we looking at attributes. like kenyon said. hands, wingspan, height, athletic ability. we havent seen them on the court yet remember
@juandejesus59029 минут бұрын
Kenyon: you should have said , “ When making my pick I would asses factors like Potential and upside vs declining Averages .
@juandejesus59027 минут бұрын
Giannis is a perfect example, he was skinny and we all said let’s wait until year 3, he’s a vet now and still getting better . The opposite case would be Wack ass Ben Simmons , good start then fizzled out .
@bodine11314 сағат бұрын
Lebron is Scottie in super saiyan mode, this can’t be a real debate lol
@tolubewaji876610 сағат бұрын
Exactly, but apparently that’s disrespectful according to the comments, also Scottie couldn’t do half the stuff bron could, he only knows 1 system, his game iq is nowhere near LeBron’s
@patdeezy71610 сағат бұрын
Lebrons defense is no where near as a good as Scottie’s at any point in his career
@dark8prince20110 сағат бұрын
facts
@gabetv63559 сағат бұрын
@@patdeezy716 but when have have Scotty finished second in dpoy, never
@jamalwalker047 сағат бұрын
@@patdeezy716 Scottie offensively is nowhere close to to LeBron. Lebeon was also a great defender between 07-14 and came close to winning two DPOY.
@AnotherDaeAnotherDolla16 сағат бұрын
The dumbest argument of the year so far, there’s more coming most likely 😂😂😂
@Qizzo24xTV16 сағат бұрын
How
@kamfisher171415 сағат бұрын
Josiah being fake woke is getting embarrassing now lol
@barrybondsbighead15 сағат бұрын
@@kamfisher1714How is he fake woke? All I ever hear him do is make jokes and move on to the next topic
@PaTxVideographer15 сағат бұрын
@@kamfisher1714 Explain. I don't get what's WOKE about basketball talk? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kamfisher171415 сағат бұрын
@ Always trying to justify him being black, like bro Kendrick ruined it that bad for the lightskins? Jesus.
@Qreid893Сағат бұрын
Kenyon lost his damn mind
@hardart-23 минут бұрын
Scottie Top 18 or so
@bovtiqvefashionweek15 сағат бұрын
Seriously. Starting to look at you athletes like true haters….its not even comparable and there needs to be more respect on LBJ. Yall talk bout this dude like he was a pedestrian in the league. The commentary is beyond ridiculous.
@zay78084 сағат бұрын
Thank you bro
@Marley11st15 сағат бұрын
I think Gil's talking about what we already know about how these players turned out, and K-Mart and McCants talking about pre draft stuff like measurables with this hypothetical draft
@miister_tee15 сағат бұрын
I agree. The measurable conversation was a little confusing and strange bc if you just line every nba player up and going strictly off looks players like Josh smith, Greg Oden, Lamar oden might get picked before Scottie.
@NochillGilGaming15 сағат бұрын
exactly but trying to pretend he will now turn into Jordan being the number 1 option 😩
@spiritanimaldaniels14 сағат бұрын
Scottie averaged double figures and 2 stocks during the playoffs from 88-02. that’s 15 years of competing. He is undervalued as a player because guys who shoot the most confuse themselves as the better players than their teammates. I would take being able to contribute for 15 years over guys who were “the man” for 2 seasons.
@zowalk32114 сағат бұрын
Scottie has the attribute of every 3 and d guy in the league today. According to them all them boys are franchise player.
@NochillGilGaming14 сағат бұрын
@ again the first 30 picks are franchise players
@chadworthington-j1r37 минут бұрын
Scottie is the greatest defender of all time but for some reason that is not enough for him
@Rio909ONT16 сағат бұрын
22 PPG in 94 is like 28ppg in todays game
@Zillamike2115 сағат бұрын
So true
@terrellbaker166015 сағат бұрын
He would have averaged 25 a game if he was a better free throw shooter.
@dewanewelch174415 сағат бұрын
Not in 94. 02 yeah maybe 94 that pace wasn't all the way down yet.
@secondchance508015 сағат бұрын
22 in 94 is 22 in todays game for Scottie . If anything 25 for Jordon is 35 today .
@user-zt4su4ku6n15 сағат бұрын
Still not taking that over kd Kenyon drunk
@khleung130615 сағат бұрын
Interesting observation from this video- Gilbert gets offended when Scottie is being compared to lebron and started to discredit things Scottie did for this debate while giving Scottie pippen all the credits when it comes to MJ vs Lebron
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
I think you got it the other way around, it's Shad etc discrediting Pippen when it comes to MJ vs Bron, here you got shad saying Scottie is #21-22 and he's picking Scottie over Wade etc. And you got "Brother Knowledge" saying he'll pick Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards)
@CNice8614 сағат бұрын
You really can't name 30 all time players that have a better all around game than Pippen.
@DarrellHardy-p8q3 сағат бұрын
That's cuz Jordan and Tim Grover personally trained Pippen 💯 u get trained by the best, it's gonna pay off
@9kapone3 сағат бұрын
not lying i tried, he getting drafted 1st round honestly
@collllllll2 сағат бұрын
Scottie was a G
@AlmightyDerrickRoseСағат бұрын
Too bad the list isn’t based off all around game
@CNice861Сағат бұрын
@AlmightyDerrickRose You still can't name 30 better than him no matter what the basis is 🤣
@davidcox52813 сағат бұрын
Kenyon and Rashad know they wouldn’t start a franchise with Scottie. They capping
@kabelomaragelo27452 сағат бұрын
😂 bro
@moneyearl7812 сағат бұрын
Just the sheer notion of picking a guy who only was "the man" for a year (even tho Toni was our closer that year) over kobe, AI, Wade, Garnett, Duncan, etc is crazy coming from former pros
@n.dewayneb92585 сағат бұрын
LeBron has played in 3 different eras, and has had success in all 3. LBJ has always been number one, while Pippen was only the number one option in 94 when Jordan retired the first time. But team success isn’t how you compare players head to head. It always comes down to individual accomplishments and accolades.
@randrickmack856113 сағат бұрын
Wow! This is ridiculous! How Kenyon gonna say he’ll take Scottie over Wade, Steph, and Charles Barkley but then say he’ll take J Kidd and Kevin Mchale. Maybe I don’t know the definition of attributes. What in the world is this???? Lol
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
What makes it worse is he said Scottie over Jokic/Curry/Kobe too...
@rockjm98765432105 сағат бұрын
He said he's focusing on attributes. Size, athleticism, long arms, hands, and versatility. You can disagree with his approach.
@justinsanders99323 сағат бұрын
It's all hypothetical.
@collllllll3 сағат бұрын
Scottie over Wade, Curry and CB any day because those guys can score 28 while Scottie will score 20 but he would stop another 10 points on defense while those guys give up 10 points on defense
@princessharper20162 сағат бұрын
@@collllllllwade has the most blocks for a guard he plays defense lol
@eb587313 сағат бұрын
He already lost because he’s taking a second round player as his first pick. Instead of grabbing a real 1st rounder and possibly getting scottie in the second round
@Cdf355 сағат бұрын
The only reason this is a discussion is because K Mart & Shad hate LeBron…Attributes?? Based off what k marts saying Bol Bol is the goat.
@InDaMixMedia-cs5nb14 сағат бұрын
How he say yes to Kobe but not t Mac and Vince Carter 😂 he just talking
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
Accolades unfortunately.
@frenzytv316214 сағат бұрын
He just chatting ….
@PLUtrayceo13 сағат бұрын
Literally makes no sense how he say yes to Kobe and no to MJ they’re literally the same size 😭😭😭
@davidkim932713 сағат бұрын
@@PLUtrayceo they're the same height but not size. Jordan has bigger hands and more athletic. Not saying Kobe wasn't athletic but Jordan was just at a higher level of athleticism.
@pickleballroadlesstraveled12 сағат бұрын
Mac and Vince not two way players
@xbigreddawgx16 сағат бұрын
Yall sick in yall head if you think pipen is getting picked top 30 in an all time draft.
@marzelsimmons870816 сағат бұрын
Facts don’t get me wrong pippen was a dog but if im starting a franchise im not picking him to be the star of my team mfs tripping
@kilzoldyck511415 сағат бұрын
He plays defense and athletic as hell why won't he be picked 30. My starting 5 is actually , Stockton, MJ, pip, rodman and Hakeem/shaq
@gifi1115 сағат бұрын
😂😂 legit nuts. I don't get how this is an argument. Scottie ain't no darn top 30 NBA player ever lol that's wild.
@darnellwilliams878315 сағат бұрын
@@marzelsimmons8708Scottie is definitely getting Picked he's the Best On ball defender of all time and he finished second in MVP voting in 1994
@gifi1115 сағат бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 that makes you top 30 lol. That's insane lol
@dewaynemartinjr8660Сағат бұрын
They smoking dope no gm is taking scottie pippen in 30 picks over any player thats ever played smh be fr
@baltimorecharmcity6419Сағат бұрын
They goofy asf
@smokejones448415 сағат бұрын
Scottie can do everything on the court. Its few players in history who can score, assist and defend all at a high level.
@penkima492315 сағат бұрын
He couldn't score at a high level. Or, assist really.
@shawnrevenge53714 сағат бұрын
I wouldn’t say he scores at a high level
@zowalk32114 сағат бұрын
Yes a great number 2
@isk282914 сағат бұрын
he didn't score at a high level
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
@isk2829 Most all around players don't. And they do that by design. Scottie could score over 20+ points per game if he wanted to. Not like he didn't prove it, even playing with Jordan.
@ludlowbuckley537315 сағат бұрын
Love Scottie but I’m not taking him over prime Khawi
@leomesssi20914 сағат бұрын
I’m taking Scottie over Khawi any day
@younglove336213 сағат бұрын
Enjoy your 2 rings. I'll take my 6.
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
@@younglove3362 by your definition might as well pick John Havlicek's 8 rings.
@cylvaniaallen449811 сағат бұрын
How you pick somebody that never available🤦🏽♀️
@lamarlashley87388 сағат бұрын
U nvr saw pippen in 94 he shoulda won league mvp that year
@TreHobbs5 сағат бұрын
Im sorry when kenyon said he’d take scottie over kobe, kawhi and curry but not jason kidd i knew he was not only bullshittin but also biased af
@spke53215 сағат бұрын
Kobe Bryant said if he was picking up Player first he would pick Scottie Pippen! He said he will model his game after Scottie Pippen because of the way he plays defense.
@tedhall925714 сағат бұрын
He thought he was Jordan, that was the only reason he said that😂
@jaruan201014 сағат бұрын
@@tedhall9257thank you 🙏🏾
@jamjam956413 сағат бұрын
Kobe’s word is law? Kobe also thought Jeremy Lin was going to help win him a championship. Let that sink in. 😂
@ReinaldoKyesse13 сағат бұрын
He actually said Lebron, because his a pass first guy
@tycool224712 сағат бұрын
@@jamjam9564Lins 11pg Was really gonna help Kobe? lol
@edwinsolomon416016 сағат бұрын
Thank you for showing love to my son harper and the rest of the barrow boys at the mlk tournment..appreciate it
@kojobrew76489 сағат бұрын
Kenyon's argument doesn't hold water. Because if you ask him why he says he's picking Oscar etc over Scottie, his argument about physical attributes, defense etc disappears and he uses their actual career to choose the over Scottie.
@zp119115 сағат бұрын
Gil kinda a clown. I'll never take him serious. Last week he was ragging on the Suns underperformance and said Bradley Beal is a hall of famer. Cmon man
@hendrikdalnoot198914 сағат бұрын
Based on his career numbers, Beal is a HOF, buddy.
@willtdabuff6414 сағат бұрын
You a clown. You never played basketball fool
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
@hendrikdalnoot1989 Casuals don't like facts.
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
So by this statement you're agreeing with Kenyon picking Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) ???????????????????????????????? ☠
@chrisglover970013 сағат бұрын
@@noyce.I'm taking Scottie over about 15 of those guys you named. Maybe more
@eugenebushard12 сағат бұрын
The fact that this is even being debated is wild. Lebron is way better than Scottie Pippen.
@marvinmj7075Сағат бұрын
I agree
@flyscorsese58432 сағат бұрын
Gil is getting cooked and he's trying to fight it lol
@EmilyWade-do8ef16 сағат бұрын
What a great video! Thank you for always delivering such quality content.
@Jgarthebeast9 сағат бұрын
damn bot
@JayyGoated282415 сағат бұрын
Scottie as a number 1 in today would be nasty. His 6'9 frame with his attributes would be elite today. Only thing would be you would have to put an elite scorer next to him cause Scottie wasn't that but everything else he can take care of
@mclark933015 сағат бұрын
But he’d have the green light
@kjjr327015 сағат бұрын
He 6'9, not a respectable shooter and averaged around 16 ppg during his career, highest was 22. He would never be the 1st option on a contender, simple as that. Might be the best "role player", but lets be fr.
@ThomasBrima-mw4ek15 сағат бұрын
No
@Clarkbar7914 сағат бұрын
If you have to put an elite scorer next to him then he ain't getting picked one lol.
@zowalk32114 сағат бұрын
@@Clarkbar79😆 Do these dudes think before they comment.
@jamesglover50674 сағат бұрын
I think Gil is the only one who understands the context of the question!
@rashodm712914 сағат бұрын
Pippen over a prime kawhi is rage bait at its finest 😂😂
@pickleballroadlesstraveled12 сағат бұрын
Kathi could carry pigpens jock…too small too slow
@mitchellajieroh12 сағат бұрын
Fr
@coolbeans341410 сағат бұрын
?? How lol Scottie has some insane stats on Both sides u could argue he’s a top five defender of all time 😂it’s not even hard he was definitely snubbed DPOY a couple times same with Duncan
@jamalwalker047 сағат бұрын
@coolbeans3414 Scottie Peak is nowhere close to Kawhi that's why it's crazy. Also, KG, Duncan, Hakeem, Russell, and Wilt are all better defenders than Pippen.
@lejonsifford34935 сағат бұрын
Why not prime pippen? Stick to attributes
@robertboyd823614 сағат бұрын
Trevor Ariza got the same attributes as Scottie that a goofy argument. You can’t throw away the mentality
@jasonspades777513 сағат бұрын
You don't watch basketball.
@anthonycelestin355912 сағат бұрын
@@jasonspades7775 People are sick in the head comparing Trevor Ariza to Scottie Pippen. Then disrespect of Pippen is unreal
@MikeJones-uc8du12 сағат бұрын
Evan Mobley got the same attributes as pippen wtf this is a comedy show It’s about mentally bro pip never thought like a number 1 if he did he would have been left jordan😂😂😂
@SirEmoSapien6 сағат бұрын
@@anthonycelestin3559 You're missing the point. They said to go off ATTRIBUTES and not ACCOLADES. Trevor Ariza has a very similar build (height, weight, wingspan, hand measurements, vertical, strength, etc.) however noone in their right mind is taking Trevor Ariza over pip or any of the people they mentioned here. Making the argument of attributes over player totality stupid.
@OhNoJake13 сағат бұрын
Soon as K Mart said KD conversation didn’t matter no more
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
And he followed up with Scottie over Curry/Jokic/Kobe etc... WILD AS F He need a brain scan... he said Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards)
@awesomedad717115 сағат бұрын
Mike didn't start winning until Scotty got there.
@jonathannkita15 сағат бұрын
That narrative again Pippen was drafted in 1987 they won their first title in 1991 so MJ and Scottie were losing together
@Kay442314 сағат бұрын
@@jonathannkitaokay so what’s narrative of jordan leaving to play baseball and pippen taking the team to semis
@ivanvillarruz841214 сағат бұрын
You mean the Bulls didn't start winning until they got better as a whole including MJ.
@dalepostell875112 сағат бұрын
@@jonathannkita...Rt
@Nca02112 сағат бұрын
First playoff game mj won in the playoffs he had 50 scottie had 0. Scottie averaged 10 MJ averaged 45 that series and it the game winner to send them to the next rd. Stop with this trash narrative
@skipjohnson915 сағат бұрын
I bet 2 ppl who has never been number 1 options in the NBA would overrated the 2nd option Shoutout to Gilbert for speaking truth. Those guys are talking crazy
@7sixreese12 сағат бұрын
K mart said he don’t know if he would take Kawhi or Giannis over Scottie 😂This is crazy, any GM in their right mind would pick either of those two before Scottie if they needed a #1 option for their team. That’s what KMart and McCants didn’t realize, this is about somebody who is going to be your franchise player. He said Pippen over Kobe, so let me guess he would take Pippen over Jordan because “he has longer arms and he’s taller.” Gil was flabbergasted by what K was saying 🤣🤣
@martinonuegbu138414 сағат бұрын
Picking Scottie over KD and Dwade is crazy....
@younglove336213 сағат бұрын
Or your basketball IQ is low.
@carlmathews577813 сағат бұрын
It is not. He is a better defender than both and he can definitely attack..you have to understand Jordan took that role and he just played is role. I would take KD though but not Dwade
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
He actually said (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) OVER KOBE CURRY JOKIC etc... man this kenyon got brain damage...
@PLUtrayceo13 сағат бұрын
How can you compare someone that lead a team to a championship vs someone who couldn’t that makes no sense
@thengyang553713 сағат бұрын
..Pip>wade...facts
@brandonhatchettsr.93 сағат бұрын
Scottie is top 50-100 for sure. Top 10-20 defender ever in my opinion and was the second piece in one of the greatest dynasties ever. MJ directly helped shape and create Scottie Pippen. Scottie’s legacy is a testament to both of them
@krces13 сағат бұрын
He is top 30 for sure
@Ashantia3515 сағат бұрын
This might be the dumbest convo on here
@newalgreen15 сағат бұрын
I was like wtf they talking about lol
@jaydot49567 сағат бұрын
The fact that it’s even a discussion is disrespectful af to Lebron lol.
@ballinphil30256 сағат бұрын
@@jaydot4956 "disrespectful to lebron" its just basketball 😅 u fanboys gotta chill
@jaydot49566 сағат бұрын
@@ballinphil3025 it’s still disrespectful, that’s like comparing Klay Thompson to Kobe or Joe Dumars to Jordan lol, there’s no respectful way to have a debate like that.
@kabelomaragelo27452 сағат бұрын
Brooo 😂
@kareempusey503215 сағат бұрын
The problem is most ppl arent going to be able to disconnect the stats from the attributes, unless youve played 2k or live then youd understand this convo perfectly if your building an archetype no one is taking a jokic archetype over a scotty archetype and thats whzt kenyon is saying
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
Tbh if you're playing 2K and all-time draft round 1 you're definitely picking Jokic over Pippen, 2k rebs stats, shooting stats, badges etc matters like you could actually score with Jokic in 2K and it's pretty darn hard to score with Pippen if you actually did played 2K. What makes it worse is Kenyon is saying he'll pick Scottie OVER Curry/Jokic/Kobe etc..
@SDQUIS2313 сағат бұрын
Perfectly said 👍🏽
@Martin-yd8lv11 сағат бұрын
His reasoning was Scottie was an inch or two taller and longer than the players Gil mentioned and could play the pt yet joker is 5 in taller Reb better passes better dribbles better shoots better in what world is a shorter smaller less skilled Scottie pippen have more “attributes” than literally the most skilled 7’1 player ever this is what happens when you get the dumb players to talk hoops Scottie was great but top 30 is wild af better than karl Malone Kobe kawhi Dwayne wade but says Kidd his former teammate was better the dude needs to lay off the weed 🤣
@patdeezy71610 сағат бұрын
@@noyce.it’s harder to score with Jokic because he has a weird shot
@kareempusey50326 сағат бұрын
@@noyce. You just took it way to far, nobody give a damn bout no badges, he's simply talking attribute, yes joker can score, pass and has handle for a bigman, but defense, steals, quickness, athleticism, ups, speed all of these would be in the D and that's what he's saying, this morning basketballs and just fukin scoring
@rashaanphillips87673 сағат бұрын
You don’t have to go with an elite scorer as your #1 pick. You can build around Scottie Pippen at your first pick
@anthonybaker219915 сағат бұрын
Kawhi, AI, Luka, Joker, Harden, Shai, D wade, KD and Shaq.. all are apparently inferior on the court than Scottie 😂😂😂 GTFOH!! More proof cuz you ball you don’t know sports!
@willtdabuff6414 сағат бұрын
Big facts. Dumb kenyon
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
Y'all sound like yall started watching basketball in 2016
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
I gotchu fam, he actually said he'll pick Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) YES... Kobe.. Curry.. Jokic etc... even by his "physical stats" attributes is WILD, so contradicting where Wemby/KG etc would be better from his "view"... Worse part is, he's thinking hard if Scottie is better than McHale but said the rest in a heartbeat.
@downtowndeuce14 сағат бұрын
The question should have been: Scottie, if LeBron had played with Jordan for most of his career, would LeBron have more rings than you?"
@Jgarthebeast9 сағат бұрын
and Scottie wouldve said "We don't know because he wasnt there, i was"
@okoktx003 сағат бұрын
Gil argument would be like an all time NFL draft and all Quarter Backs, receivers, and running backs would all go in first 1 to 30 because they score points.Which would be WRONG.!!! Larry Allen, Lawrence Taylor, Darell Revis , Deion, Reggie White , Ray Lewis etc etc would all be selected before alot of the top 25 Touch down guys. Scottie is going to guard the best player, steals. Blocks, assists , rebounds i,ntesity, durability and give you 22 points. Players like Harden be scoring alot but fail to win anything with good players on the team with him. SCOTTIE would easily be picked 20 to 30 by an GM based on all we know now about him and his attributes.
@evilHELENE15 сағат бұрын
3:09 Scottie still talking in the background mid-conversation felt so family guy !! Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
@tyharris999415 сағат бұрын
I was thinking of the Ring of Power at the Council of Elrond when everybody was arguing with each other. Never trust an elf! Meanwhile Scottie is in the background stirring up discord even after all this time.
@MuddyDaGod6 сағат бұрын
Nah for real😂😂😂😂😂
@bishopdaking71714 сағат бұрын
You don’t win 6 rings without being great even as a number 2.
@tflo348259 минут бұрын
10000% I'm taking Scottie for a first pick if he's there in any position n there's a short list of guys going before him n that's all time. Give it up Gil Context: I'm born in 1990, I grew up with the BJ Armstrong, Horace, Scottie, MJ poster next to my bed...I witnessed it Gil, that man was a top 30 player EVER when you look at what he did in his career, how he played, who he was (that guy in fact) and yes, his attributes too... you can be as contrary as you want, Scottie is the number one under any other man than the greatest to ever play this fucking game. Just stop 🛑
@MrReganomics115 сағат бұрын
Wow, ok so according to McCants the reason LeBron averaged 37 on him is cause he gets to shoot more 😂😂😂😂😂
@randrickmack856113 сағат бұрын
23:53 proves that this whole debate is pointless. Kenyon just going with guys with a better body. This is not even a real conversation.
@noyce.12 сағат бұрын
The worse part is he said no to Wemby/KG/AD etc while saying yes to JKidd, totally contradict his "physical attributes" narrative... And then saying Scottie over Jokic/Kobe/Curry...
@randrickmack856112 сағат бұрын
@ Yes!! Contradiction!
@sevenonemusic13693 сағат бұрын
Yes! It’s bad 😂 KM and McCants are cry babies fr. Too emotional with no logic
@jamesbrown7765 сағат бұрын
6:37 those are Lebron numbers now at 40
@hoopstarhighlights15 сағат бұрын
Scottie over kobe kawhi or jokic is crazy 😂😂😂
@meaux-kneaux14 сағат бұрын
I wouldn't take him over Jokic
@willtdabuff6414 сағат бұрын
Bunch of clowns agreeing, saying that bs
@daviddawson837914 сағат бұрын
He's saying, if you saw a glimpse of their game or saw them say in warm up drills. Pippen is a 6 ft 8 player who almost looks like a 7 ft tall point guard and can jump crazy high, fast and athletic. Yes, more than Kawhi and Kobe and definitely over Jokic, who can barely jump, flat footed and barely run. In comparison to Pippen. But seeing there careers. Yes, they would be picked arguably over Pippen, as they were number one options, with more success than Pippen, when he was a number one option or when he was a number 2 or 3 option, after leaving the Bulls.
@devinmckinney771614 сағат бұрын
I watched Pippen bro was a dog on defense an hit clutch shots ppl don't know an average 3 stls a game
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
"Brother Knowledge" don't forget Curry too.. KG.. Dirk.. Malone.. Wemby.. This dude is CRAZY
@blackandbuff31615 сағат бұрын
So, using Gilbert's logic in the 80's his first choice would have been Alex English. Because all he cares about is scoring. In case you didn't know, he scored the most points in that decade. More than ANYBODY!!!
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
Depends on the person and player. Some players know how to be versatile. Some players know how to score. Some players know how to play defense. Gil is more of a scorer mentality. Gil, Kobe, Jordan, and other high volume scorers are that way. Pippen is more like Kidd, LeBron, magic, Stockton, Nash, and others who pass first and run the floor getting their team mates involved while scoring 13 to 15 ppg.
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
This has nothing to do with Scottie, he's just fuming that Kenyon is picking Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) It's like if you have Kobe/Curry at all-time draft round 1 pick 30, you'd pick Scottie over them!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! It ain't bout scoring. It's much easier to pick a great defender in an all-time draft, you pick your CARRY at #1 and then fill your time with other picks.
@PLUtrayceo13 сағат бұрын
Bro nobody is picking Scottie Pippen first in an all time draft that makes no fucking sense
@pambrown56257 сағат бұрын
@@younglove3362when tf has lebron ever scored 13 ppg
@realraw995 сағат бұрын
@@noyce.If y'all never seen dr.j play don't speak on him cause y'all don't know what the fuk y'all talking about
@ArchibaldNorman-vl5ci16 сағат бұрын
I can’t get enough of your content. Keep posting!
@khleung130615 сағат бұрын
How much for this comment?
@trevonricks597516 сағат бұрын
Kawhi would go before in a draft before Scottie, you'll get a MJ like playoff title win run at least once a decade when he manage to stay healthy
@penkima492315 сағат бұрын
Some would pick Kawhi and some would pick Scottie. MJ would pick Scottie over Kawhi. Karl Malone would pick Scottie.
@secondchance508015 сағат бұрын
Kawhi with the injury history over Scottie ? Idk bout all that and once a decade ain’t good 😂 especially when end of the day Scottie got 6 to kawhi 2
@smithswill707615 сағат бұрын
@secondchance5080 Kawhi got a FMVP. Two of them. He played with a Duncan/TP/Ginobili tandem near the end of their careers. He didn’t get to play with a prime Jordan. Kawhi at his peak is an 27 ppg scorer. Majority would take him still.
@arturorodriguez822314 сағат бұрын
@@smithswill7076 he played with with the Big 3 and supported them. Notice how they NEVER say Big 4. He was a glorified role player and we in SA know Timmy should have won the FMVP but Pop decided to give it the future star and backfired while robbing Duncan
@arturorodriguez822314 сағат бұрын
Overall, and I'm from SA, Kawhi had no handles to drive as Pippen could slash and shot jump shot. While both great defensive players, Kawhi was never a distributor like Pippen. Unlike Pippen, he was an iso player. just look at their overall stats.
@Himji-Winsmoke5 сағат бұрын
I’m not gone lie. These folks pissed me off. Scottie over Finals MVPs is insanity!
@yeayea475612 сағат бұрын
Get kenyon martin off there, no gm in their right mind would pick scottie over KD or Luka, these old head's minds aged backwards
@dwayneturner939510 сағат бұрын
Don't put us all together. Fk that.
@realraw996 сағат бұрын
I pick him over Luka slow ass
@vintagedaz16 сағат бұрын
I don’t wanna use my brain!!! - Gilbert Arenas 2025 😂😂😂😂
@NochillGilGaming15 сағат бұрын
3 Gms....said scottie ppl would go 2-3round "everyone drafting...superman and batman type players! shaq,jordan,duncan,magic,kd,lebron,dirk,KG, and u wanna pick a glorified robin to be superman! 😂😂 the GM actual response (HELL NO) he wouldnt go top 30 😅
@vintagedaz14 сағат бұрын
@ Love this show man!!! 😂😂😂
@Kidimo_13 сағат бұрын
were picking ben simmons over scottie with Kenyon logic
@hlmcclain2Сағат бұрын
I'm 54... Born and raised in Illinois... Jordan didn't WIN 💩 until Scottie Pippin and Horace Grant arrived (Same Draft Class) ✊🏿 Gilbert should "KNOW" Better... When Jordan "RETIRED" Scottie Pippen led the Bulls to the Conference Finals and if NOT for a BULL 💩 Hugh Douglas call they RETURN to the NBA FINALS (Again) against the Houston Rockets... SMH 💯
@CavsKobe232415 сағат бұрын
Watching Gilbert disrespect Scottie Pippen like this is atrocious man smh
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
Na you got it the wrong way, Kenyon is disrespecting by saying he'd pick Scottie OVER (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) OVER KOBE? JOKIC? CURRY???????????? THAT is atrocious. Who the hell would pick Scottie in ROUND 1 in an all-time draft. ROUND 1.
@Kidimo_13 сағат бұрын
idk why you guys are out to make scottie something that hes not. hes not a number 1 guy.
@seancarter795412 сағат бұрын
@@noyce.FACTS
@DariusTabor11 сағат бұрын
@@noyce.Edwards morant, cp3, luka, nash , harden , shai over Scotty is crazy
@noyce.11 сағат бұрын
@ I don't disagree with those, Scottie over Jokic/Kobe/Curry etc is ABSOLUTELY WILD
@c-gunz448215 сағат бұрын
The argument is if building a TEAM and you have the 30th pick, do you pick a big man who can play multiple positions and great defense before you pick a "single skill" better scorer to get your team/franchise a winning record at the end of the season? Keeping in mind you can scoop up a primary scorer or fill any other role with top 100 players in later rounds. Gil lost his damn mind trying to argue this
@ChrisFrazier-yb1hu14 сағат бұрын
Scottie is a big now?
@c-gunz448213 сағат бұрын
@@ChrisFrazier-yb1hu - compared to the other options worth considering he is
@boog96476 сағат бұрын
Scottie won’t go in the first round brother 😂. If your building a team you’ll take the best available. Scottie for sure is the first pick of the second round because he’s the best number 2 you can have. Nobody is picking Scottie over jokic, Giannis, bron, Steph, kd, Kobe, Tim, Shaq, Hakeem, wilt, Kareem.
@c-gunz44823 сағат бұрын
Did you even watch the video you just commented on? The entire clip is Kenyon and Rashad breaking down why Gil was wrong for saying the same thing you just did.
@boog96472 сағат бұрын
@@c-gunz4482 I watched the entire video. Just because mccants and Kenyon agree doesn’t make gil wrong. You technically can’t be wrong in a opinionated debate. Now that’s out the way you smoking crack cocaine if you pick Scottie over Steph 😂. They legit had to doctor the argument to help Scottie get picked sooner. There’s more Scottie like players for you to pick than the superstars I think that’s what you, Kenyon and mccants are forgetting. You can find a Steph curry type but it’s not Steph curry. So anybody picking Scottie within the first 30 is crazy when it’s many variations of that player. Lebron can be and is considered a better variation of Scottie. Scottie pippen has better physical attributes than a lot of players. That doesn’t mean he’s a better player because of his physical gifts.
@NickWay-q9y3 сағат бұрын
Gil is right ain’t nobody gonna draft Scottie before none of thous guys
@chicagonative315 сағат бұрын
over KD is crazy I stopped listening to Kenyon after that, what are we talking about man? It’s ok to be wrong Kenyon
@lionface136414 сағат бұрын
Id pick $cotty over Kd also.....kd better scorer....Scotty better two way player
@Gymantis14 сағат бұрын
Because you're isolating the argument on the perspective of who the better 1v1 player is as opposed to who affects winning. KD affects winning when he joins a 72 win team.
@2girls1cup-xo14 сағат бұрын
Nobody is taking Pip over KD....and I think Scottie gets overshadowed by MJ, but that's crazy
@kenwright23339114 сағат бұрын
@@lionface1364 I agree. Kevin Durant has no heart. We saw all we needed to see out of Durant when he abandoned the Thunder.
@Clarkbar7914 сағат бұрын
@@lionface1364pippen would get left in his shoes today. He was guarding white dudes
@whoisniilante15 сағат бұрын
I hate that ppl talk about MJ, Pip, and those Bulls like they only played 6 seasons
@amazintay28305 сағат бұрын
He said ant Edward’s only 6’4 but picked Jason kid who 6 foot and picked Scottie over the joker k-mart out his mf’n Mind just loud and wrong
@Cdf355 сағат бұрын
This how I know they just like arguing on here lol. The whole topic made zero sense
@g516254 минут бұрын
Kidd was 6'4 also
@Cdf3548 минут бұрын
@@g5162point still stands, they’re both still 6’4 compared to Scottie 6’7.. going against his argument picking kidd
@chrisarmstrong441215 сағат бұрын
I see what Gil is saying there are 30 better players than Scott
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
There's more than 30 players. Pippen is a top 10 all around player. Bust as an individual one, not so much.
@carlosvelasquez282616 сағат бұрын
Bro scottie over jokic is insane two time mvp almost averaging a trip dub
@penkima492315 сағат бұрын
Jokic has won 3 MVP awards, and 1 FMVP.
@carlosvelasquez282615 сағат бұрын
@ even more crazy 💀
@karlmyles90978 сағат бұрын
What Kenyon was describing was basically putting all players ever in a combine. The issue with that is, once you see Wemby, he’s most definitely being placed ahead of Scottie. Talking about he’s 12… They’d all be the same age range if they’re just coming in.
@UchihaDaltoniii16 сағат бұрын
Glad Kenyon here with Rashad cuz they're keeping it a whole band on this topic 💯
@bissau19015 сағат бұрын
Those 2 sound dumb as hell talking about they would take Scottie in a draft over Steph Curry and Kobe… Just thinking that alone should ban you from speaking about basketball
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m15 сағат бұрын
@@bissau190Stop thinking basketball is only about scoring. It’s also about passing, dribbling and defending.
@bissau19015 сағат бұрын
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m where did I say basketball is just about scoring?? I just mentioned those 2 because that’s EGREGIOUS to say you’d take Pippen over a couple legends of the game. Kobe and Steph are clearly better players to choose if you’re starting a team what are we talking about?? Them saying they’d take Scottie over Jokic is clownish also…
@baccendtyy125415 сағат бұрын
@@bissau190he ain’t say Kobe,but he def said A.I,Shaq and curry all guys who CARRIED their franchises which is actually insane
@dannysmith967615 сағат бұрын
@@baccendtyy1254 he did say Kobe
@deltadefconii445915 сағат бұрын
🗣 GRANT HILL WE FORGOT !
@DurQCDurСағат бұрын
K mart pippin over AI is bananas
@rezasanjari330525 минут бұрын
You missed the reason and the original question
@vernonblyden82215 сағат бұрын
The GOAT and the RING debate has rendered many good players' legacies null and void.
@DraGanix3315 сағат бұрын
So much disrespect just to prop up 1 player.
@cooleekbrown172814 сағат бұрын
Because the older generation likes to remove context and just say "6-0".
@DraGanix3314 сағат бұрын
@@vernonblyden822 the funny thing is there wouldn’t be “6-0” without scottie.
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
That's because the conversation is done by narrow minded individuals and casuals. It's hard to have a legitimate conversation without people being dumb relying on accolades only when they tell half the story.
@RolandBullock-ej8wl6 сағат бұрын
the fact that anyone questions scottie's legacy when you haven't done half the shit he's done....wtf
@randrickmack856113 сағат бұрын
This man said he’s picking Scottie over Joker, AD, Luka and Antman. So he just going with better body type
@noyce.12 сағат бұрын
And then he said no to Wemby/KG/AD etc... AND THEN saying yes to JKidd. And you got people in comments saying "I'm with Kmart" "Gil lost this one" WHILE Kmart saying Scottie over Jokic/Curry/Kobe etc. Infact he said (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards)
@antdawg7812 сағат бұрын
I'm picking Scottie over them as well. Not saying he better he just does everything
@randrickmack856112 сағат бұрын
@@antdawg78 I agree Scottie does everything. He’s versatile but a guy like Luka or Joker. They Score better, and passes better. They actually average more rebounds also. The only thing Scottie does better really than those 2 is defend.
@noyce.11 сағат бұрын
@ wild to double down picking Scottie over Curry/Kobe/Jokic
@lamarlashley87387 сағат бұрын
No diddy
@Be.Blessed15 сағат бұрын
I LOVE the way they just proved those 6 rings ain't as impressive as they try to make it seem. Telling me Jordan had a guy with him that would go 1st rd in an all-time fantasy draft? Over DWade, Kawhi, and maybe KD?! Tweakin
@sidjones1615 сағат бұрын
Depends on what type of team you're building. The 04 Pistons didn't have a "star" player. Imagine a team with 5 Pippens.
@zowalk32114 сағат бұрын
Any franchise that would pick Pip over any of those guys should be drug tested.
@lionface136414 сағат бұрын
@@zowalk321I'll take that drug test
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
@sidjones16 04 Pistons had 4 all stars and a previous franchise player. Stop acting like that team wasn't deep because they didn't really have a main guy, despite it actually being Rasheed Wallace.
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
Infact "Brother Knowledge" said he'd pick Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) ABSOLUTELY WILD..
@aaronsmith6975 сағат бұрын
Scottie is a top 30 player. He is arguably the 3rd best SF of all-time (some may argue KD because of his scoring abilities) only behind Lebron and Bird. But could you imagine taking Scottie at 30 and then in the second round, getting a KG, AI, Harden, Dirk, Moses Malone, Dwight, Dame, etc. to pair with Scottie. Crazy
@jdw_213016 сағат бұрын
Gil’s main focus is offense. That’s why he can’t see Pippen going top 30. He’s top 30 easily.
@HandsomeHeartthrob15 сағат бұрын
He top 30 against every number one option ever? lol. Y’all people say shit ‘outta ignorance & iss the funniest shit ever 😂
@BeeN-fy2jh15 сағат бұрын
He's really not. Just from post 2000s players Jokic, Lebron, D Wade, Duncan, Kawhi, KD, Curry, Dirk, Kobe, Giannis are all easily better. No questions asked. That's 10 guys right there. That means Pip would have to be a top 20 player from 1946-1999. Stop it.
@otismichael258315 сағат бұрын
Its easier to find a great defender than it is to find a great scorer.
@thomasdr0815 сағат бұрын
@@BeeN-fy2jhcurious how many all defense picks those guys have
@6d657514 сағат бұрын
@@BeeN-fy2jhAgreed and Pippen never guarded the level of talent you mentioned.
@miicyah515 сағат бұрын
scottie is my fav player of all time just watching him hustle so hard that engine they couldn't have gotten 6 without him steals rebounds blocks assist he did it all i have not seen a player since work as hard as him its just fucked up how his personal life had to get mixed in for people to look down on him as a player
@bodilly622115 сағат бұрын
Good point… still wasn’t half the player lebron is. I think people are already forgetting how good Lebron was
@richmorlang18545 сағат бұрын
When a debate doesnt go his way gil changes the criteria
@GodsOwn8816 сағат бұрын
K Martin is tripping right now smh
@curtiscoffman673514 сағат бұрын
This man said Scottie over D wade that is blasphemy.
@secondeffort13914 сағат бұрын
@@curtiscoffman6735the worst part is he said he will pick J kidd over pippen is wild I guess j kidd better than d wade too
@younglove336214 сағат бұрын
Both, Kidd and Pippen are going to take you further than Wade. Y'all sleep. And I'm a Miami native/Heat fan saying this.
@curtiscoffman673514 сағат бұрын
@ facts bro like Scottie was cold don’t get me wrong, but over dwade and Kobe is crazy
@curtiscoffman673514 сағат бұрын
@@younglove3362 so you out Scottie on that 06 team yall still winning? Get yo fake Miami fan a$$ out of here
@Marley11st15 сағат бұрын
I think there's 2 different convos happening here lol
@jam7442Сағат бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing. It's hilarious to watch
@skipbrainless27323 сағат бұрын
Picking Scottie over Kawhi is beyond moronical
@OfficialTravvyTrav15 сағат бұрын
11:27 Gilbert you lost this debate bro 😂😂😂 take the L
@noyce.13 сағат бұрын
Yeah because the other two wants to pick Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) You simply can't "win" this debate, it's lost from the get go 🤣😆🤣
@plantbasedministries923312 сағат бұрын
No he did not.
@plantbasedministries923312 сағат бұрын
@@noyce.It’s a joke, I’m laughing out loud at this debate.