Gil's Arena ERUPTS Over Scottie Pippen's NBA Legacy

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Gil's Arena

Gil's Arena

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@CliffArmijo
@CliffArmijo 16 сағат бұрын
I hate that people just completely disregard defense as part of a player's game these days.
@adgee5401
@adgee5401 16 сағат бұрын
The sports leagues leaned into the entertainment aspect of the game. Rules have made it difficult to play defense so only the ones that care enough or the ones that have no choice but to play defense in the NBA.
@mlkt8550
@mlkt8550 15 сағат бұрын
At the end of the day it’s about putting the ball in the hoop. A big reason why Phil deferred to Kukoc in that Knick series end of the game.
@mykeacuna
@mykeacuna 15 сағат бұрын
I'm not disregarding defense. The argument was your first round pick. I'm not picking a defense first guy as my first round pick. I need someone that will be a game changer right away.
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 15 сағат бұрын
@@mykeacunaI’ll just pick a Magic Johnson and be done with it.
@theblinkerx
@theblinkerx 15 сағат бұрын
Agree nowadays ppl completely overlook Defense & Turnovers
@rtoomer92
@rtoomer92 15 сағат бұрын
He averaged like 20/6/6 in the finals all time while guarding the opposing team's best player. He's solidified.
@rtoomer92
@rtoomer92 15 сағат бұрын
FYI Just because Scottie is an all time #2 doesn't take away from his actual ability. He was #2 to the GOAT.
@BeeN-fy2jh
@BeeN-fy2jh 14 сағат бұрын
He didn't guard Drexler or Magic more than MJ in those 91 and 92 series Horace Grant guarded Barkley. Rodman guarded Shawn Kemp and Karl Malone. This false narrative that scottie always guarded the best player is used to mask the fact that he ain't really on that level. No mvps or major accolades to speak of.
@willtdabuff64
@willtdabuff64 14 сағат бұрын
Scottie over curry kd and jokic. Stop talking basketball man
@michaelcephus3850
@michaelcephus3850 14 сағат бұрын
@@hendrikdalnoot1989 Jordan stop guarding Magic they switched. Remember Mike is #1 option on offense too
@michaelcephus3850
@michaelcephus3850 14 сағат бұрын
KD and DWade play defense
@Dantana773
@Dantana773 10 сағат бұрын
The shade towards Scottie Pippen and his skill set as a basketball player is Crazy. Pip Could affect the outcome of the game without scoring/ being the number one option. Can Play 4 positions and defend 4 positions. Being from Chicago and watching it in real time, Amazing times & memories. Salute to Pippen When He was the main option in the 93/94 Season he lead the bulls to a 55-27 record second in the central divison and 3rd overall in Eastern conference. lead the bulls in 5 major stat categories, Himself and two of his teammates made the all-star team that season All Star Game MVP and 3rd place in MVP voting. Tex Winter the coach who is credited with developing & popularizing the triangle offense said himself that Scottie Pippen skill set was perfect for that offense. Team success with 6 rings averaging 20/6/6 in the finals while guarding the best player on the other team.
@87mchale.71
@87mchale.71 3 сағат бұрын
Stop with this myth that Scotty always checked the best player it's false and annoying. Scotty isn't top 30. Jermaine O'Neal led the pacers to the best record in the NBA in 2004 guess he's top 30.
@martinwestfa4963
@martinwestfa4963 3 сағат бұрын
​@@87mchale.71 i 2004.... how many years did scottydo it. Without scotty mike doesnt hve 6.
@FIELDRaw3
@FIELDRaw3 3 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂Scottie always got his respect from fans and peers, Scottie Pippen is disrespecting himself 😂😂😂
@87mchale.71
@87mchale.71 3 сағат бұрын
@@martinwestfa4963 Scotty never led his team to the best record in the league. U don't actually believe that with all the elite teams and players that MJ could've played with.
@derekandkaty4593
@derekandkaty4593 2 сағат бұрын
@@martinwestfa4963without Mike, Scottie doesn’t have 1
@resist1581
@resist1581 14 сағат бұрын
No intelligent or unbiased person would ever choose Pippen over Lebron. With that said, Pippen is an all time great.
@skyblaze184king9
@skyblaze184king9 23 минут бұрын
You put that perfectly.
@marckusblx8219
@marckusblx8219 10 минут бұрын
Not at anytime!
@sigmams4952
@sigmams4952 Минут бұрын
Depending the team I’d take pippen. I’d rather have Kobe and pippen then Kobe and Bron
@resist1581
@resist1581 26 секунд бұрын
@@sigmams4952 gimme Kobe/Bron all day. Kobe will be open on every shot.
@roberttoocool3808
@roberttoocool3808 16 сағат бұрын
Scottie was a great player the disrespect of this man is crazy top 50 and 75 player in NBA history.
@brittanywilson9361
@brittanywilson9361 16 сағат бұрын
Dwight howard could easily replace him
@lendalejohnson4866
@lendalejohnson4866 16 сағат бұрын
People disrespect him because he’s a disrespectful guy 😂
@BeeN-fy2jh
@BeeN-fy2jh 16 сағат бұрын
Where's the disrespect? He was a bonafide sidekick. A really good one, but a sidekick.
@JP-vy7ez
@JP-vy7ez 15 сағат бұрын
Under ZERO circumstances does any reasonable person take Scottie over Joker! That is madness
@gifi11
@gifi11 15 сағат бұрын
What disrespect? Pippen was nice, yes, but he played with MJ. Pippen never did anything as an #1 option
@JohnDoe-db6rr
@JohnDoe-db6rr 10 сағат бұрын
Kenyon said he picking pippen over Kobe 😭😭😭 im crying. They act like girls sometimes just saying shit just so they won’t be wrong 😂😂
@llock3hart
@llock3hart 10 сағат бұрын
Other than his athleticism, Kobe was mediocre coming out of the draft.
@gillyblank4380
@gillyblank4380 10 сағат бұрын
​@@llock3hart mane, you even got to admit they were off. Especially picking J Kidd over Pippen, but not Wemby off attributes...
@LONGLIVEHANA
@LONGLIVEHANA 8 сағат бұрын
Literally bro 😂😂Man lost me he said Scotty over Ai 😔 then kobe Rip this nxxxa wild!
@denk664
@denk664 7 сағат бұрын
No GM would pick Pippen over Kobe or AI yall trippin
@joelsandjong2777
@joelsandjong2777 7 сағат бұрын
@@denk664y’all looking at accolades, he was talking purely off ability
@Bigkuntry50
@Bigkuntry50 16 сағат бұрын
That "you do number 2 stuff" had me rolling 😂😂😂😂
@donaldb93
@donaldb93 15 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@BigDogg50191
@BigDogg50191 13 сағат бұрын
Facts 😂😂
@Flyc2
@Flyc2 13 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂lmfooooo😊
@datsapaddlin
@datsapaddlin 10 сағат бұрын
All respect to Scottie but I’m pretty sure Lebron and Jordan would have always been beating the Pistons if they was on the same team
@chapaleto
@chapaleto 7 сағат бұрын
Kenyon was too high
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 16 сағат бұрын
Scottie Pippen played his role on the Bulls and they won championships.
@johnjovanovichwick4194
@johnjovanovichwick4194 16 сағат бұрын
As the number 2 option
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 16 сағат бұрын
@@johnjovanovichwick4194Every championship team had a no.2 who played their role on said team.
@CraignDayDay007
@CraignDayDay007 15 сағат бұрын
@@johnjovanovichwick4194jordan needed pippen, scottie was a dawg
@johnjovanovichwick4194
@johnjovanovichwick4194 15 сағат бұрын
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m as long as u know he was a glorified number 2 all that other shit don’t matter
@williamvaughn4418
@williamvaughn4418 15 сағат бұрын
@@johnjovanovichwick4194what is a glorified number 2? Jordan doesn’t have a winning season without Scottie on the roster .. so what makes him “glorified “
@Mauro-h3n
@Mauro-h3n 8 сағат бұрын
Scottie for sure underrated , he was putting up franchise player offense and all nba 1st team defense when Jordan was out
@skipjohnson91
@skipjohnson91 5 сағат бұрын
& fucking lost when it mattered
@GLENISgotastorytotell
@GLENISgotastorytotell 4 сағат бұрын
22 ppg is franchise player offense???? Lol
@quietflow2071
@quietflow2071 56 минут бұрын
But he still begged for mj to come back cus he couldn’t do it on his own and he quit on his time you forgot that ?
@dpsplayer3915
@dpsplayer3915 12 сағат бұрын
Kenyon lost me when he said he’d take Scotty over Steph, Kobe and Jokić.
@mdotcom09
@mdotcom09 12 сағат бұрын
well be lost
@whitewidow7517
@whitewidow7517 12 сағат бұрын
Its about attributes not what the player has done no one listing what he is saying what Scottie could do his Attributes not what the player has done he absolutely better then all those 3 scottie did everything
@Jetstoned23
@Jetstoned23 11 сағат бұрын
​@whitewidow7517 so jonathan bender 6"10 long can jump..
@Ahmari223
@Ahmari223 11 сағат бұрын
@@pickleballroadlesstraveled u drunk. Hes the perfect complimentary player. Hes not the lead dog
@jasoncalhoun1262
@jasoncalhoun1262 11 сағат бұрын
Scottie could guard all 3 of those guys in a game That’s what’s going over y’all head An when haven’t seen Curry an Jokic in a hand checking era so who’s to say that they would even be the same players
@younglord777
@younglord777 11 сағат бұрын
Kmart literally said he’s going off attributes but then gets asked about wemby then says “no he’s 12 years old” just moving the goalpost
@llock3hart
@llock3hart 10 сағат бұрын
Wemby is physically really small compared to a Scottie.
@michaelbest4739
@michaelbest4739 9 сағат бұрын
That's like saying Rose in his 1st 3 years, of course he's a beast statically but Wemby doesn't have enough of a sample size to be in the conversation
@YOUNGAVE215
@YOUNGAVE215 9 сағат бұрын
They were going off the the top 75 list that's why he said that
@jsongz201
@jsongz201 2 сағат бұрын
Wemby is good but he still young, got to give him enough time..plus he talking about top 75
@Numbers-mc2ks
@Numbers-mc2ks 2 сағат бұрын
@@michaelbest4739same with Scottie as a number one to be claiming you gon draft him over dwade and kawhi lmaooo wen y attributes alone probably would have him top 20 or 10 pick if we goin off kenyon logic
@johnswizzle4442
@johnswizzle4442 10 сағат бұрын
People will downplay scottie to make jordan look better but then people say hes better than bron. NBA dialogue is cooked.
@joseph5589
@joseph5589 6 сағат бұрын
Jordan better than LeBron
@johnswizzle4442
@johnswizzle4442 5 сағат бұрын
@joseph5589 100% but the narrative is cooked. Can't even gauge Scottie right. Hes not better than LeBron but he's not just some #2 Michael Jordan carried every year. He's in the middle of those two statements.
@DarrellHardy-p8q
@DarrellHardy-p8q 3 сағат бұрын
​@@joseph5589Jordan is 💯% better than Lebron
@87mchale.71
@87mchale.71 3 сағат бұрын
​@@johnswizzle4442Scott isn't top 30. No one is downplaying him. Does Scotty even reach the same heights without MJ?
@krces1
@krces1 3 сағат бұрын
​@@87mchale.71he is top 30.Its team sport and he is top 5 or 6 small forward of all time
@jasdhamrat7235
@jasdhamrat7235 15 сағат бұрын
The first time MJ retired Scottie Pippen led the Bulls to 55 wins. He was the first player in NBA history to lead his team in all 5 major statistical categories. He was All-Star Game MVP. First Team All-NBA, First Team All-NBA Defence, First in steals and 3rd in MVP voting. Gil has no idea, only pays attention to people who shoot 20 plus shots to score 30 plus points. Scottie affected winning more than any player we have ever seen. 6 Rings
@travisdurham29
@travisdurham29 15 сағат бұрын
What happened the following year?
@truthonly-
@truthonly- 15 сағат бұрын
EVER? I MEAN EVER. NAH
@HoopsRaccoon
@HoopsRaccoon 15 сағат бұрын
He can do everything. Him, lebron, grant hill, magic are guys who are tall and can do everything in the basketball court in their prime, offense and defensive studs. These players are super rare.
@allidoiswin9891
@allidoiswin9891 15 сағат бұрын
Yea no doubt he would be 1st round in all time draft. You could put any kind of player around him and make it work
@gifi11
@gifi11 15 сағат бұрын
​@@travisdurham29or that same year he is referring too lol
@lookagainthenagain
@lookagainthenagain 15 сағат бұрын
As a person from Chicago growing up watching the bulls, I've seen plenty of games where Scottie was guarding the best player hitting big shots too
@latreviuswhite4128
@latreviuswhite4128 13 сағат бұрын
Facts as a Huge Bulls fan there were times where Pippen was my favorite player bc he did so many ig things to effect the game
@Dantana773
@Dantana773 10 сағат бұрын
Facts
@tolubewaji8766
@tolubewaji8766 10 сағат бұрын
That doesn’t make him LeBron tho
@mostmost1
@mostmost1 7 сағат бұрын
Many did that. Scottie choked alot
@Wisestomatoe
@Wisestomatoe 6 сағат бұрын
You know mj fans just like to downplay him
@realkingreco
@realkingreco 51 минут бұрын
I love Scottie and he is unquestionably one of the greatest basketball players to ever live… He is also an example of why you should let your legacy speak for itself.
@jimbo26582
@jimbo26582 15 сағат бұрын
As soon as Gil brought up Ben Simmons Kmart wanted to get off of the attribute train as soon as possible because he knew he’d have to say he would be top 30 all time too.
@patdeezy716
@patdeezy716 10 сағат бұрын
Scottie was a better shooter than Ben Simmons though
@Dajuiceman
@Dajuiceman 9 сағат бұрын
@@patdeezy716Yea 32% on ya career is definitely worth noting 😭, mf ain’t no shooter yall be saying anything
@shardstraws1
@shardstraws1 7 сағат бұрын
exactly 💯💯
@SirEmoSapien
@SirEmoSapien 7 сағат бұрын
@@patdeezy716 Pippen has a career average of 47% FG in regular season and 44% in playoffs. Ben simmons has a career average of 56% regular season and 57% playoffs avg. We all have access to these stats, why are we BS'n?
@WarriorKidd06
@WarriorKidd06 6 сағат бұрын
That just goes to show how disappointing of a career Ben’s has turned into
@michaelcallaghan9320
@michaelcallaghan9320 15 сағат бұрын
Thank all the gods in the world that K mart and Rashad are not responsible for drafting or putting together any type of team. Jeez that was dumb
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
They pay attention to all around players and compatibility. You focus on iso players and individuals.
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
@@younglove3362 so you're agreeing Kenyon picking Scottie over Jokic/Curry/Kobe??? MAke it make sense.. It ain't about "iso players and individuals", you're the GM and all-time draft round 1 you gonna pick Scottie???????????????????????????????
@Kidimo_
@Kidimo_ 13 сағат бұрын
@@younglove3362with that dumb logic, you’d probably go with draymond green, ben simmons, grant hill, penny hardaway, josh smith before alot of those players as well. you see how dumb that logic is?
@cylvaniaallen4498
@cylvaniaallen4498 12 сағат бұрын
@@Kidimo_none of those people were all around players like Scottie. There are plenty of number one guys. I can easily name 30 number 1 guys. How many guys can you name that do everything?
@Kidimo_
@Kidimo_ 11 сағат бұрын
@@cylvaniaallen4498 nah remember we looking at attributes. like kenyon said. hands, wingspan, height, athletic ability. we havent seen them on the court yet remember
@juandejesus590
@juandejesus590 29 минут бұрын
Kenyon: you should have said , “ When making my pick I would asses factors like Potential and upside vs declining Averages .
@juandejesus590
@juandejesus590 27 минут бұрын
Giannis is a perfect example, he was skinny and we all said let’s wait until year 3, he’s a vet now and still getting better . The opposite case would be Wack ass Ben Simmons , good start then fizzled out .
@bodine113
@bodine113 14 сағат бұрын
Lebron is Scottie in super saiyan mode, this can’t be a real debate lol
@tolubewaji8766
@tolubewaji8766 10 сағат бұрын
Exactly, but apparently that’s disrespectful according to the comments, also Scottie couldn’t do half the stuff bron could, he only knows 1 system, his game iq is nowhere near LeBron’s
@patdeezy716
@patdeezy716 10 сағат бұрын
Lebrons defense is no where near as a good as Scottie’s at any point in his career
@dark8prince201
@dark8prince201 10 сағат бұрын
facts
@gabetv6355
@gabetv6355 9 сағат бұрын
​@@patdeezy716 but when have have Scotty finished second in dpoy, never
@jamalwalker04
@jamalwalker04 7 сағат бұрын
​​​@@patdeezy716 Scottie offensively is nowhere close to to LeBron. Lebeon was also a great defender between 07-14 and came close to winning two DPOY.
@AnotherDaeAnotherDolla
@AnotherDaeAnotherDolla 16 сағат бұрын
The dumbest argument of the year so far, there’s more coming most likely 😂😂😂
@Qizzo24xTV
@Qizzo24xTV 16 сағат бұрын
How
@kamfisher1714
@kamfisher1714 15 сағат бұрын
Josiah being fake woke is getting embarrassing now lol
@barrybondsbighead
@barrybondsbighead 15 сағат бұрын
​@@kamfisher1714How is he fake woke? All I ever hear him do is make jokes and move on to the next topic
@PaTxVideographer
@PaTxVideographer 15 сағат бұрын
​@@kamfisher1714 Explain. I don't get what's WOKE about basketball talk? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kamfisher1714
@kamfisher1714 15 сағат бұрын
@ Always trying to justify him being black, like bro Kendrick ruined it that bad for the lightskins? Jesus.
@Qreid893
@Qreid893 Сағат бұрын
Kenyon lost his damn mind
@hardart-
@hardart- 23 минут бұрын
Scottie Top 18 or so
@bovtiqvefashionweek
@bovtiqvefashionweek 15 сағат бұрын
Seriously. Starting to look at you athletes like true haters….its not even comparable and there needs to be more respect on LBJ. Yall talk bout this dude like he was a pedestrian in the league. The commentary is beyond ridiculous.
@zay7808
@zay7808 4 сағат бұрын
Thank you bro
@Marley11st
@Marley11st 15 сағат бұрын
I think Gil's talking about what we already know about how these players turned out, and K-Mart and McCants talking about pre draft stuff like measurables with this hypothetical draft
@miister_tee
@miister_tee 15 сағат бұрын
I agree. The measurable conversation was a little confusing and strange bc if you just line every nba player up and going strictly off looks players like Josh smith, Greg Oden, Lamar oden might get picked before Scottie.
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 15 сағат бұрын
exactly but trying to pretend he will now turn into Jordan being the number 1 option 😩
@spiritanimaldaniels
@spiritanimaldaniels 14 сағат бұрын
Scottie averaged double figures and 2 stocks during the playoffs from 88-02. that’s 15 years of competing. He is undervalued as a player because guys who shoot the most confuse themselves as the better players than their teammates. I would take being able to contribute for 15 years over guys who were “the man” for 2 seasons.
@zowalk321
@zowalk321 14 сағат бұрын
Scottie has the attribute of every 3 and d guy in the league today. According to them all them boys are franchise player.
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 14 сағат бұрын
@ again the first 30 picks are franchise players
@chadworthington-j1r
@chadworthington-j1r 37 минут бұрын
Scottie is the greatest defender of all time but for some reason that is not enough for him
@Rio909ONT
@Rio909ONT 16 сағат бұрын
22 PPG in 94 is like 28ppg in todays game
@Zillamike21
@Zillamike21 15 сағат бұрын
So true
@terrellbaker1660
@terrellbaker1660 15 сағат бұрын
He would have averaged 25 a game if he was a better free throw shooter.
@dewanewelch1744
@dewanewelch1744 15 сағат бұрын
Not in 94. 02 yeah maybe 94 that pace wasn't all the way down yet.
@secondchance5080
@secondchance5080 15 сағат бұрын
22 in 94 is 22 in todays game for Scottie . If anything 25 for Jordon is 35 today .
@user-zt4su4ku6n
@user-zt4su4ku6n 15 сағат бұрын
Still not taking that over kd Kenyon drunk
@khleung1306
@khleung1306 15 сағат бұрын
Interesting observation from this video- Gilbert gets offended when Scottie is being compared to lebron and started to discredit things Scottie did for this debate while giving Scottie pippen all the credits when it comes to MJ vs Lebron
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
I think you got it the other way around, it's Shad etc discrediting Pippen when it comes to MJ vs Bron, here you got shad saying Scottie is #21-22 and he's picking Scottie over Wade etc. And you got "Brother Knowledge" saying he'll pick Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards)
@CNice861
@CNice861 4 сағат бұрын
You really can't name 30 all time players that have a better all around game than Pippen.
@DarrellHardy-p8q
@DarrellHardy-p8q 3 сағат бұрын
That's cuz Jordan and Tim Grover personally trained Pippen 💯 u get trained by the best, it's gonna pay off
@9kapone
@9kapone 3 сағат бұрын
not lying i tried, he getting drafted 1st round honestly
@collllllll
@collllllll 2 сағат бұрын
Scottie was a G
@AlmightyDerrickRose
@AlmightyDerrickRose Сағат бұрын
Too bad the list isn’t based off all around game
@CNice861
@CNice861 Сағат бұрын
@AlmightyDerrickRose You still can't name 30 better than him no matter what the basis is 🤣
@davidcox528
@davidcox528 13 сағат бұрын
Kenyon and Rashad know they wouldn’t start a franchise with Scottie. They capping
@kabelomaragelo2745
@kabelomaragelo2745 2 сағат бұрын
😂 bro
@moneyearl78
@moneyearl78 12 сағат бұрын
Just the sheer notion of picking a guy who only was "the man" for a year (even tho Toni was our closer that year) over kobe, AI, Wade, Garnett, Duncan, etc is crazy coming from former pros
@n.dewayneb9258
@n.dewayneb9258 5 сағат бұрын
LeBron has played in 3 different eras, and has had success in all 3. LBJ has always been number one, while Pippen was only the number one option in 94 when Jordan retired the first time. But team success isn’t how you compare players head to head. It always comes down to individual accomplishments and accolades.
@randrickmack8561
@randrickmack8561 13 сағат бұрын
Wow! This is ridiculous! How Kenyon gonna say he’ll take Scottie over Wade, Steph, and Charles Barkley but then say he’ll take J Kidd and Kevin Mchale. Maybe I don’t know the definition of attributes. What in the world is this???? Lol
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
What makes it worse is he said Scottie over Jokic/Curry/Kobe too...
@rockjm9876543210
@rockjm9876543210 5 сағат бұрын
He said he's focusing on attributes. Size, athleticism, long arms, hands, and versatility. You can disagree with his approach.
@justinsanders9932
@justinsanders9932 3 сағат бұрын
It's all hypothetical.
@collllllll
@collllllll 3 сағат бұрын
Scottie over Wade, Curry and CB any day because those guys can score 28 while Scottie will score 20 but he would stop another 10 points on defense while those guys give up 10 points on defense
@princessharper2016
@princessharper2016 2 сағат бұрын
@@collllllllwade has the most blocks for a guard he plays defense lol
@eb5873
@eb5873 13 сағат бұрын
He already lost because he’s taking a second round player as his first pick. Instead of grabbing a real 1st rounder and possibly getting scottie in the second round
@Cdf35
@Cdf35 5 сағат бұрын
The only reason this is a discussion is because K Mart & Shad hate LeBron…Attributes?? Based off what k marts saying Bol Bol is the goat.
@InDaMixMedia-cs5nb
@InDaMixMedia-cs5nb 14 сағат бұрын
How he say yes to Kobe but not t Mac and Vince Carter 😂 he just talking
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
Accolades unfortunately.
@frenzytv3162
@frenzytv3162 14 сағат бұрын
He just chatting ….
@PLUtrayceo
@PLUtrayceo 13 сағат бұрын
Literally makes no sense how he say yes to Kobe and no to MJ they’re literally the same size 😭😭😭
@davidkim9327
@davidkim9327 13 сағат бұрын
​@@PLUtrayceo they're the same height but not size. Jordan has bigger hands and more athletic. Not saying Kobe wasn't athletic but Jordan was just at a higher level of athleticism.
@pickleballroadlesstraveled
@pickleballroadlesstraveled 12 сағат бұрын
Mac and Vince not two way players
@xbigreddawgx
@xbigreddawgx 16 сағат бұрын
Yall sick in yall head if you think pipen is getting picked top 30 in an all time draft.
@marzelsimmons8708
@marzelsimmons8708 16 сағат бұрын
Facts don’t get me wrong pippen was a dog but if im starting a franchise im not picking him to be the star of my team mfs tripping
@kilzoldyck5114
@kilzoldyck5114 15 сағат бұрын
He plays defense and athletic as hell why won't he be picked 30. My starting 5 is actually , Stockton, MJ, pip, rodman and Hakeem/shaq
@gifi11
@gifi11 15 сағат бұрын
😂😂 legit nuts. I don't get how this is an argument. Scottie ain't no darn top 30 NBA player ever lol that's wild.
@darnellwilliams8783
@darnellwilliams8783 15 сағат бұрын
​@@marzelsimmons8708Scottie is definitely getting Picked he's the Best On ball defender of all time and he finished second in MVP voting in 1994
@gifi11
@gifi11 15 сағат бұрын
@@darnellwilliams8783 that makes you top 30 lol. That's insane lol
@dewaynemartinjr8660
@dewaynemartinjr8660 Сағат бұрын
They smoking dope no gm is taking scottie pippen in 30 picks over any player thats ever played smh be fr
@baltimorecharmcity6419
@baltimorecharmcity6419 Сағат бұрын
They goofy asf
@smokejones4484
@smokejones4484 15 сағат бұрын
Scottie can do everything on the court. Its few players in history who can score, assist and defend all at a high level.
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 15 сағат бұрын
He couldn't score at a high level. Or, assist really.
@shawnrevenge537
@shawnrevenge537 14 сағат бұрын
I wouldn’t say he scores at a high level
@zowalk321
@zowalk321 14 сағат бұрын
Yes a great number 2
@isk2829
@isk2829 14 сағат бұрын
he didn't score at a high level
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
@isk2829 Most all around players don't. And they do that by design. Scottie could score over 20+ points per game if he wanted to. Not like he didn't prove it, even playing with Jordan.
@ludlowbuckley5373
@ludlowbuckley5373 15 сағат бұрын
Love Scottie but I’m not taking him over prime Khawi
@leomesssi209
@leomesssi209 14 сағат бұрын
I’m taking Scottie over Khawi any day
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 13 сағат бұрын
Enjoy your 2 rings. I'll take my 6.
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
@@younglove3362 by your definition might as well pick John Havlicek's 8 rings.
@cylvaniaallen4498
@cylvaniaallen4498 11 сағат бұрын
How you pick somebody that never available🤦🏽‍♀️
@lamarlashley8738
@lamarlashley8738 8 сағат бұрын
U nvr saw pippen in 94 he shoulda won league mvp that year
@TreHobbs
@TreHobbs 5 сағат бұрын
Im sorry when kenyon said he’d take scottie over kobe, kawhi and curry but not jason kidd i knew he was not only bullshittin but also biased af
@spke532
@spke532 15 сағат бұрын
Kobe Bryant said if he was picking up Player first he would pick Scottie Pippen! He said he will model his game after Scottie Pippen because of the way he plays defense.
@tedhall9257
@tedhall9257 14 сағат бұрын
He thought he was Jordan, that was the only reason he said that😂
@jaruan2010
@jaruan2010 14 сағат бұрын
@@tedhall9257thank you 🙏🏾
@jamjam9564
@jamjam9564 13 сағат бұрын
Kobe’s word is law? Kobe also thought Jeremy Lin was going to help win him a championship. Let that sink in. 😂
@ReinaldoKyesse
@ReinaldoKyesse 13 сағат бұрын
He actually said Lebron, because his a pass first guy
@tycool2247
@tycool2247 12 сағат бұрын
​​@@jamjam9564Lins 11pg Was really gonna help Kobe? lol
@edwinsolomon4160
@edwinsolomon4160 16 сағат бұрын
Thank you for showing love to my son harper and the rest of the barrow boys at the mlk tournment..appreciate it
@kojobrew7648
@kojobrew7648 9 сағат бұрын
Kenyon's argument doesn't hold water. Because if you ask him why he says he's picking Oscar etc over Scottie, his argument about physical attributes, defense etc disappears and he uses their actual career to choose the over Scottie.
@zp1191
@zp1191 15 сағат бұрын
Gil kinda a clown. I'll never take him serious. Last week he was ragging on the Suns underperformance and said Bradley Beal is a hall of famer. Cmon man
@hendrikdalnoot1989
@hendrikdalnoot1989 14 сағат бұрын
Based on his career numbers, Beal is a HOF, buddy.
@willtdabuff64
@willtdabuff64 14 сағат бұрын
You a clown. You never played basketball fool
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
@hendrikdalnoot1989 Casuals don't like facts.
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
So by this statement you're agreeing with Kenyon picking Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) ???????????????????????????????? ☠
@chrisglover9700
@chrisglover9700 13 сағат бұрын
​@@noyce.I'm taking Scottie over about 15 of those guys you named. Maybe more
@eugenebushard
@eugenebushard 12 сағат бұрын
The fact that this is even being debated is wild. Lebron is way better than Scottie Pippen.
@marvinmj7075
@marvinmj7075 Сағат бұрын
I agree
@flyscorsese5843
@flyscorsese5843 2 сағат бұрын
Gil is getting cooked and he's trying to fight it lol
@EmilyWade-do8ef
@EmilyWade-do8ef 16 сағат бұрын
What a great video! Thank you for always delivering such quality content.
@Jgarthebeast
@Jgarthebeast 9 сағат бұрын
damn bot
@JayyGoated2824
@JayyGoated2824 15 сағат бұрын
Scottie as a number 1 in today would be nasty. His 6'9 frame with his attributes would be elite today. Only thing would be you would have to put an elite scorer next to him cause Scottie wasn't that but everything else he can take care of
@mclark9330
@mclark9330 15 сағат бұрын
But he’d have the green light
@kjjr3270
@kjjr3270 15 сағат бұрын
He 6'9, not a respectable shooter and averaged around 16 ppg during his career, highest was 22. He would never be the 1st option on a contender, simple as that. Might be the best "role player", but lets be fr.
@ThomasBrima-mw4ek
@ThomasBrima-mw4ek 15 сағат бұрын
No
@Clarkbar79
@Clarkbar79 14 сағат бұрын
If you have to put an elite scorer next to him then he ain't getting picked one lol.
@zowalk321
@zowalk321 14 сағат бұрын
​@@Clarkbar79😆 Do these dudes think before they comment.
@jamesglover5067
@jamesglover5067 4 сағат бұрын
I think Gil is the only one who understands the context of the question!
@rashodm7129
@rashodm7129 14 сағат бұрын
Pippen over a prime kawhi is rage bait at its finest 😂😂
@pickleballroadlesstraveled
@pickleballroadlesstraveled 12 сағат бұрын
Kathi could carry pigpens jock…too small too slow
@mitchellajieroh
@mitchellajieroh 12 сағат бұрын
Fr
@coolbeans3414
@coolbeans3414 10 сағат бұрын
?? How lol Scottie has some insane stats on Both sides u could argue he’s a top five defender of all time 😂it’s not even hard he was definitely snubbed DPOY a couple times same with Duncan
@jamalwalker04
@jamalwalker04 7 сағат бұрын
​@coolbeans3414 Scottie Peak is nowhere close to Kawhi that's why it's crazy. Also, KG, Duncan, Hakeem, Russell, and Wilt are all better defenders than Pippen.
@lejonsifford3493
@lejonsifford3493 5 сағат бұрын
Why not prime pippen? Stick to attributes
@robertboyd8236
@robertboyd8236 14 сағат бұрын
Trevor Ariza got the same attributes as Scottie that a goofy argument. You can’t throw away the mentality
@jasonspades7775
@jasonspades7775 13 сағат бұрын
You don't watch basketball.
@anthonycelestin3559
@anthonycelestin3559 12 сағат бұрын
@@jasonspades7775 People are sick in the head comparing Trevor Ariza to Scottie Pippen. Then disrespect of Pippen is unreal
@MikeJones-uc8du
@MikeJones-uc8du 12 сағат бұрын
Evan Mobley got the same attributes as pippen wtf this is a comedy show It’s about mentally bro pip never thought like a number 1 if he did he would have been left jordan😂😂😂
@SirEmoSapien
@SirEmoSapien 6 сағат бұрын
@@anthonycelestin3559 You're missing the point. They said to go off ATTRIBUTES and not ACCOLADES. Trevor Ariza has a very similar build (height, weight, wingspan, hand measurements, vertical, strength, etc.) however noone in their right mind is taking Trevor Ariza over pip or any of the people they mentioned here. Making the argument of attributes over player totality stupid.
@OhNoJake
@OhNoJake 13 сағат бұрын
Soon as K Mart said KD conversation didn’t matter no more
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
And he followed up with Scottie over Curry/Jokic/Kobe etc... WILD AS F He need a brain scan... he said Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards)
@awesomedad7171
@awesomedad7171 15 сағат бұрын
Mike didn't start winning until Scotty got there.
@jonathannkita
@jonathannkita 15 сағат бұрын
That narrative again Pippen was drafted in 1987 they won their first title in 1991 so MJ and Scottie were losing together
@Kay4423
@Kay4423 14 сағат бұрын
@@jonathannkitaokay so what’s narrative of jordan leaving to play baseball and pippen taking the team to semis
@ivanvillarruz8412
@ivanvillarruz8412 14 сағат бұрын
You mean the Bulls didn't start winning until they got better as a whole including MJ.
@dalepostell8751
@dalepostell8751 12 сағат бұрын
​@@jonathannkita...Rt
@Nca021
@Nca021 12 сағат бұрын
First playoff game mj won in the playoffs he had 50 scottie had 0. Scottie averaged 10 MJ averaged 45 that series and it the game winner to send them to the next rd. Stop with this trash narrative
@skipjohnson91
@skipjohnson91 5 сағат бұрын
I bet 2 ppl who has never been number 1 options in the NBA would overrated the 2nd option Shoutout to Gilbert for speaking truth. Those guys are talking crazy
@7sixreese
@7sixreese 12 сағат бұрын
K mart said he don’t know if he would take Kawhi or Giannis over Scottie 😂This is crazy, any GM in their right mind would pick either of those two before Scottie if they needed a #1 option for their team. That’s what KMart and McCants didn’t realize, this is about somebody who is going to be your franchise player. He said Pippen over Kobe, so let me guess he would take Pippen over Jordan because “he has longer arms and he’s taller.” Gil was flabbergasted by what K was saying 🤣🤣
@martinonuegbu1384
@martinonuegbu1384 14 сағат бұрын
Picking Scottie over KD and Dwade is crazy....
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 13 сағат бұрын
Or your basketball IQ is low.
@carlmathews5778
@carlmathews5778 13 сағат бұрын
It is not. He is a better defender than both and he can definitely attack..you have to understand Jordan took that role and he just played is role. I would take KD though but not Dwade
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
He actually said (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) OVER KOBE CURRY JOKIC etc... man this kenyon got brain damage...
@PLUtrayceo
@PLUtrayceo 13 сағат бұрын
How can you compare someone that lead a team to a championship vs someone who couldn’t that makes no sense
@thengyang5537
@thengyang5537 13 сағат бұрын
​..Pip>wade...facts
@brandonhatchettsr.9
@brandonhatchettsr.9 3 сағат бұрын
Scottie is top 50-100 for sure. Top 10-20 defender ever in my opinion and was the second piece in one of the greatest dynasties ever. MJ directly helped shape and create Scottie Pippen. Scottie’s legacy is a testament to both of them
@krces1
@krces1 3 сағат бұрын
He is top 30 for sure
@Ashantia35
@Ashantia35 15 сағат бұрын
This might be the dumbest convo on here
@newalgreen
@newalgreen 15 сағат бұрын
I was like wtf they talking about lol
@jaydot4956
@jaydot4956 7 сағат бұрын
The fact that it’s even a discussion is disrespectful af to Lebron lol.
@ballinphil3025
@ballinphil3025 6 сағат бұрын
​​@@jaydot4956 "disrespectful to lebron" its just basketball 😅 u fanboys gotta chill
@jaydot4956
@jaydot4956 6 сағат бұрын
@@ballinphil3025 it’s still disrespectful, that’s like comparing Klay Thompson to Kobe or Joe Dumars to Jordan lol, there’s no respectful way to have a debate like that.
@kabelomaragelo2745
@kabelomaragelo2745 2 сағат бұрын
Brooo 😂
@kareempusey5032
@kareempusey5032 15 сағат бұрын
The problem is most ppl arent going to be able to disconnect the stats from the attributes, unless youve played 2k or live then youd understand this convo perfectly if your building an archetype no one is taking a jokic archetype over a scotty archetype and thats whzt kenyon is saying
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
Tbh if you're playing 2K and all-time draft round 1 you're definitely picking Jokic over Pippen, 2k rebs stats, shooting stats, badges etc matters like you could actually score with Jokic in 2K and it's pretty darn hard to score with Pippen if you actually did played 2K. What makes it worse is Kenyon is saying he'll pick Scottie OVER Curry/Jokic/Kobe etc..
@SDQUIS23
@SDQUIS23 13 сағат бұрын
Perfectly said 👍🏽
@Martin-yd8lv
@Martin-yd8lv 11 сағат бұрын
His reasoning was Scottie was an inch or two taller and longer than the players Gil mentioned and could play the pt yet joker is 5 in taller Reb better passes better dribbles better shoots better in what world is a shorter smaller less skilled Scottie pippen have more “attributes” than literally the most skilled 7’1 player ever this is what happens when you get the dumb players to talk hoops Scottie was great but top 30 is wild af better than karl Malone Kobe kawhi Dwayne wade but says Kidd his former teammate was better the dude needs to lay off the weed 🤣
@patdeezy716
@patdeezy716 10 сағат бұрын
@@noyce.it’s harder to score with Jokic because he has a weird shot
@kareempusey5032
@kareempusey5032 6 сағат бұрын
@@noyce. You just took it way to far, nobody give a damn bout no badges, he's simply talking attribute, yes joker can score, pass and has handle for a bigman, but defense, steals, quickness, athleticism, ups, speed all of these would be in the D and that's what he's saying, this morning basketballs and just fukin scoring
@rashaanphillips8767
@rashaanphillips8767 3 сағат бұрын
You don’t have to go with an elite scorer as your #1 pick. You can build around Scottie Pippen at your first pick
@anthonybaker2199
@anthonybaker2199 15 сағат бұрын
Kawhi, AI, Luka, Joker, Harden, Shai, D wade, KD and Shaq.. all are apparently inferior on the court than Scottie 😂😂😂 GTFOH!! More proof cuz you ball you don’t know sports!
@willtdabuff64
@willtdabuff64 14 сағат бұрын
Big facts. Dumb kenyon
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
Y'all sound like yall started watching basketball in 2016
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
I gotchu fam, he actually said he'll pick Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) YES... Kobe.. Curry.. Jokic etc... even by his "physical stats" attributes is WILD, so contradicting where Wemby/KG etc would be better from his "view"... Worse part is, he's thinking hard if Scottie is better than McHale but said the rest in a heartbeat.
@downtowndeuce
@downtowndeuce 14 сағат бұрын
The question should have been: Scottie, if LeBron had played with Jordan for most of his career, would LeBron have more rings than you?"
@Jgarthebeast
@Jgarthebeast 9 сағат бұрын
and Scottie wouldve said "We don't know because he wasnt there, i was"
@okoktx00
@okoktx00 3 сағат бұрын
Gil argument would be like an all time NFL draft and all Quarter Backs, receivers, and running backs would all go in first 1 to 30 because they score points.Which would be WRONG.!!! Larry Allen, Lawrence Taylor, Darell Revis , Deion, Reggie White , Ray Lewis etc etc would all be selected before alot of the top 25 Touch down guys. Scottie is going to guard the best player, steals. Blocks, assists , rebounds i,ntesity, durability and give you 22 points. Players like Harden be scoring alot but fail to win anything with good players on the team with him. SCOTTIE would easily be picked 20 to 30 by an GM based on all we know now about him and his attributes.
@evilHELENE
@evilHELENE 15 сағат бұрын
3:09 Scottie still talking in the background mid-conversation felt so family guy !! Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
@tyharris9994
@tyharris9994 15 сағат бұрын
I was thinking of the Ring of Power at the Council of Elrond when everybody was arguing with each other. Never trust an elf! Meanwhile Scottie is in the background stirring up discord even after all this time.
@MuddyDaGod
@MuddyDaGod 6 сағат бұрын
Nah for real😂😂😂😂😂
@bishopdaking717
@bishopdaking717 14 сағат бұрын
You don’t win 6 rings without being great even as a number 2.
@tflo3482
@tflo3482 59 минут бұрын
10000% I'm taking Scottie for a first pick if he's there in any position n there's a short list of guys going before him n that's all time. Give it up Gil Context: I'm born in 1990, I grew up with the BJ Armstrong, Horace, Scottie, MJ poster next to my bed...I witnessed it Gil, that man was a top 30 player EVER when you look at what he did in his career, how he played, who he was (that guy in fact) and yes, his attributes too... you can be as contrary as you want, Scottie is the number one under any other man than the greatest to ever play this fucking game. Just stop 🛑
@MrReganomics1
@MrReganomics1 15 сағат бұрын
Wow, ok so according to McCants the reason LeBron averaged 37 on him is cause he gets to shoot more 😂😂😂😂😂
@randrickmack8561
@randrickmack8561 13 сағат бұрын
23:53 proves that this whole debate is pointless. Kenyon just going with guys with a better body. This is not even a real conversation.
@noyce.
@noyce. 12 сағат бұрын
The worse part is he said no to Wemby/KG/AD etc while saying yes to JKidd, totally contradict his "physical attributes" narrative... And then saying Scottie over Jokic/Kobe/Curry...
@randrickmack8561
@randrickmack8561 12 сағат бұрын
@ Yes!! Contradiction!
@sevenonemusic1369
@sevenonemusic1369 3 сағат бұрын
Yes! It’s bad 😂 KM and McCants are cry babies fr. Too emotional with no logic
@jamesbrown776
@jamesbrown776 5 сағат бұрын
6:37 those are Lebron numbers now at 40
@hoopstarhighlights
@hoopstarhighlights 15 сағат бұрын
Scottie over kobe kawhi or jokic is crazy 😂😂😂
@meaux-kneaux
@meaux-kneaux 14 сағат бұрын
I wouldn't take him over Jokic
@willtdabuff64
@willtdabuff64 14 сағат бұрын
Bunch of clowns agreeing, saying that bs
@daviddawson8379
@daviddawson8379 14 сағат бұрын
He's saying, if you saw a glimpse of their game or saw them say in warm up drills. Pippen is a 6 ft 8 player who almost looks like a 7 ft tall point guard and can jump crazy high, fast and athletic. Yes, more than Kawhi and Kobe and definitely over Jokic, who can barely jump, flat footed and barely run. In comparison to Pippen. But seeing there careers. Yes, they would be picked arguably over Pippen, as they were number one options, with more success than Pippen, when he was a number one option or when he was a number 2 or 3 option, after leaving the Bulls.
@devinmckinney7716
@devinmckinney7716 14 сағат бұрын
I watched Pippen bro was a dog on defense an hit clutch shots ppl don't know an average 3 stls a game
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
"Brother Knowledge" don't forget Curry too.. KG.. Dirk.. Malone.. Wemby.. This dude is CRAZY
@blackandbuff316
@blackandbuff316 15 сағат бұрын
So, using Gilbert's logic in the 80's his first choice would have been Alex English. Because all he cares about is scoring. In case you didn't know, he scored the most points in that decade. More than ANYBODY!!!
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
Depends on the person and player. Some players know how to be versatile. Some players know how to score. Some players know how to play defense. Gil is more of a scorer mentality. Gil, Kobe, Jordan, and other high volume scorers are that way. Pippen is more like Kidd, LeBron, magic, Stockton, Nash, and others who pass first and run the floor getting their team mates involved while scoring 13 to 15 ppg.
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
This has nothing to do with Scottie, he's just fuming that Kenyon is picking Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) It's like if you have Kobe/Curry at all-time draft round 1 pick 30, you'd pick Scottie over them!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! It ain't bout scoring. It's much easier to pick a great defender in an all-time draft, you pick your CARRY at #1 and then fill your time with other picks.
@PLUtrayceo
@PLUtrayceo 13 сағат бұрын
Bro nobody is picking Scottie Pippen first in an all time draft that makes no fucking sense
@pambrown5625
@pambrown5625 7 сағат бұрын
​@@younglove3362when tf has lebron ever scored 13 ppg
@realraw99
@realraw99 5 сағат бұрын
​@@noyce.If y'all never seen dr.j play don't speak on him cause y'all don't know what the fuk y'all talking about
@ArchibaldNorman-vl5ci
@ArchibaldNorman-vl5ci 16 сағат бұрын
I can’t get enough of your content. Keep posting!
@khleung1306
@khleung1306 15 сағат бұрын
How much for this comment?
@trevonricks5975
@trevonricks5975 16 сағат бұрын
Kawhi would go before in a draft before Scottie, you'll get a MJ like playoff title win run at least once a decade when he manage to stay healthy
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 15 сағат бұрын
Some would pick Kawhi and some would pick Scottie. MJ would pick Scottie over Kawhi. Karl Malone would pick Scottie.
@secondchance5080
@secondchance5080 15 сағат бұрын
Kawhi with the injury history over Scottie ? Idk bout all that and once a decade ain’t good 😂 especially when end of the day Scottie got 6 to kawhi 2
@smithswill7076
@smithswill7076 15 сағат бұрын
@secondchance5080 Kawhi got a FMVP. Two of them. He played with a Duncan/TP/Ginobili tandem near the end of their careers. He didn’t get to play with a prime Jordan. Kawhi at his peak is an 27 ppg scorer. Majority would take him still.
@arturorodriguez8223
@arturorodriguez8223 14 сағат бұрын
@@smithswill7076 he played with with the Big 3 and supported them. Notice how they NEVER say Big 4. He was a glorified role player and we in SA know Timmy should have won the FMVP but Pop decided to give it the future star and backfired while robbing Duncan
@arturorodriguez8223
@arturorodriguez8223 14 сағат бұрын
Overall, and I'm from SA, Kawhi had no handles to drive as Pippen could slash and shot jump shot. While both great defensive players, Kawhi was never a distributor like Pippen. Unlike Pippen, he was an iso player. just look at their overall stats.
@Himji-Winsmoke
@Himji-Winsmoke 5 сағат бұрын
I’m not gone lie. These folks pissed me off. Scottie over Finals MVPs is insanity!
@yeayea4756
@yeayea4756 12 сағат бұрын
Get kenyon martin off there, no gm in their right mind would pick scottie over KD or Luka, these old head's minds aged backwards
@dwayneturner9395
@dwayneturner9395 10 сағат бұрын
Don't put us all together. Fk that.
@realraw99
@realraw99 6 сағат бұрын
I pick him over Luka slow ass
@vintagedaz
@vintagedaz 16 сағат бұрын
I don’t wanna use my brain!!! - Gilbert Arenas 2025 😂😂😂😂
@NochillGilGaming
@NochillGilGaming 15 сағат бұрын
3 Gms....said scottie ppl would go 2-3round "everyone drafting...superman and batman type players! shaq,jordan,duncan,magic,kd,lebron,dirk,KG, and u wanna pick a glorified robin to be superman! 😂😂 the GM actual response (HELL NO) he wouldnt go top 30 😅
@vintagedaz
@vintagedaz 14 сағат бұрын
@ Love this show man!!! 😂😂😂
@Kidimo_
@Kidimo_ 13 сағат бұрын
were picking ben simmons over scottie with Kenyon logic
@hlmcclain2
@hlmcclain2 Сағат бұрын
I'm 54... Born and raised in Illinois... Jordan didn't WIN 💩 until Scottie Pippin and Horace Grant arrived (Same Draft Class) ✊🏿 Gilbert should "KNOW" Better... When Jordan "RETIRED" Scottie Pippen led the Bulls to the Conference Finals and if NOT for a BULL 💩 Hugh Douglas call they RETURN to the NBA FINALS (Again) against the Houston Rockets... SMH 💯
@CavsKobe2324
@CavsKobe2324 15 сағат бұрын
Watching Gilbert disrespect Scottie Pippen like this is atrocious man smh
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
Na you got it the wrong way, Kenyon is disrespecting by saying he'd pick Scottie OVER (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) OVER KOBE? JOKIC? CURRY???????????? THAT is atrocious. Who the hell would pick Scottie in ROUND 1 in an all-time draft. ROUND 1.
@Kidimo_
@Kidimo_ 13 сағат бұрын
idk why you guys are out to make scottie something that hes not. hes not a number 1 guy.
@seancarter7954
@seancarter7954 12 сағат бұрын
@@noyce.FACTS
@DariusTabor
@DariusTabor 11 сағат бұрын
​@@noyce.Edwards morant, cp3, luka, nash , harden , shai over Scotty is crazy
@noyce.
@noyce. 11 сағат бұрын
@ I don't disagree with those, Scottie over Jokic/Kobe/Curry etc is ABSOLUTELY WILD
@c-gunz4482
@c-gunz4482 15 сағат бұрын
The argument is if building a TEAM and you have the 30th pick, do you pick a big man who can play multiple positions and great defense before you pick a "single skill" better scorer to get your team/franchise a winning record at the end of the season? Keeping in mind you can scoop up a primary scorer or fill any other role with top 100 players in later rounds. Gil lost his damn mind trying to argue this
@ChrisFrazier-yb1hu
@ChrisFrazier-yb1hu 14 сағат бұрын
Scottie is a big now?
@c-gunz4482
@c-gunz4482 13 сағат бұрын
@@ChrisFrazier-yb1hu - compared to the other options worth considering he is
@boog9647
@boog9647 6 сағат бұрын
Scottie won’t go in the first round brother 😂. If your building a team you’ll take the best available. Scottie for sure is the first pick of the second round because he’s the best number 2 you can have. Nobody is picking Scottie over jokic, Giannis, bron, Steph, kd, Kobe, Tim, Shaq, Hakeem, wilt, Kareem.
@c-gunz4482
@c-gunz4482 3 сағат бұрын
Did you even watch the video you just commented on? The entire clip is Kenyon and Rashad breaking down why Gil was wrong for saying the same thing you just did.
@boog9647
@boog9647 2 сағат бұрын
@@c-gunz4482 I watched the entire video. Just because mccants and Kenyon agree doesn’t make gil wrong. You technically can’t be wrong in a opinionated debate. Now that’s out the way you smoking crack cocaine if you pick Scottie over Steph 😂. They legit had to doctor the argument to help Scottie get picked sooner. There’s more Scottie like players for you to pick than the superstars I think that’s what you, Kenyon and mccants are forgetting. You can find a Steph curry type but it’s not Steph curry. So anybody picking Scottie within the first 30 is crazy when it’s many variations of that player. Lebron can be and is considered a better variation of Scottie. Scottie pippen has better physical attributes than a lot of players. That doesn’t mean he’s a better player because of his physical gifts.
@NickWay-q9y
@NickWay-q9y 3 сағат бұрын
Gil is right ain’t nobody gonna draft Scottie before none of thous guys
@chicagonative3
@chicagonative3 15 сағат бұрын
over KD is crazy I stopped listening to Kenyon after that, what are we talking about man? It’s ok to be wrong Kenyon
@lionface1364
@lionface1364 14 сағат бұрын
Id pick $cotty over Kd also.....kd better scorer....Scotty better two way player
@Gymantis
@Gymantis 14 сағат бұрын
Because you're isolating the argument on the perspective of who the better 1v1 player is as opposed to who affects winning. KD affects winning when he joins a 72 win team.
@2girls1cup-xo
@2girls1cup-xo 14 сағат бұрын
Nobody is taking Pip over KD....and I think Scottie gets overshadowed by MJ, but that's crazy
@kenwright233391
@kenwright233391 14 сағат бұрын
​@@lionface1364 I agree. Kevin Durant has no heart. We saw all we needed to see out of Durant when he abandoned the Thunder.
@Clarkbar79
@Clarkbar79 14 сағат бұрын
​@@lionface1364pippen would get left in his shoes today. He was guarding white dudes
@whoisniilante
@whoisniilante 15 сағат бұрын
I hate that ppl talk about MJ, Pip, and those Bulls like they only played 6 seasons
@amazintay2830
@amazintay2830 5 сағат бұрын
He said ant Edward’s only 6’4 but picked Jason kid who 6 foot and picked Scottie over the joker k-mart out his mf’n Mind just loud and wrong
@Cdf35
@Cdf35 5 сағат бұрын
This how I know they just like arguing on here lol. The whole topic made zero sense
@g5162
@g5162 54 минут бұрын
Kidd was 6'4 also
@Cdf35
@Cdf35 48 минут бұрын
@@g5162point still stands, they’re both still 6’4 compared to Scottie 6’7.. going against his argument picking kidd
@chrisarmstrong4412
@chrisarmstrong4412 15 сағат бұрын
I see what Gil is saying there are 30 better players than Scott
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
There's more than 30 players. Pippen is a top 10 all around player. Bust as an individual one, not so much.
@carlosvelasquez2826
@carlosvelasquez2826 16 сағат бұрын
Bro scottie over jokic is insane two time mvp almost averaging a trip dub
@penkima4923
@penkima4923 15 сағат бұрын
Jokic has won 3 MVP awards, and 1 FMVP.
@carlosvelasquez2826
@carlosvelasquez2826 15 сағат бұрын
@ even more crazy 💀
@karlmyles9097
@karlmyles9097 8 сағат бұрын
What Kenyon was describing was basically putting all players ever in a combine. The issue with that is, once you see Wemby, he’s most definitely being placed ahead of Scottie. Talking about he’s 12… They’d all be the same age range if they’re just coming in.
@UchihaDaltoniii
@UchihaDaltoniii 16 сағат бұрын
Glad Kenyon here with Rashad cuz they're keeping it a whole band on this topic 💯
@bissau190
@bissau190 15 сағат бұрын
Those 2 sound dumb as hell talking about they would take Scottie in a draft over Steph Curry and Kobe… Just thinking that alone should ban you from speaking about basketball
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 15 сағат бұрын
@@bissau190Stop thinking basketball is only about scoring. It’s also about passing, dribbling and defending.
@bissau190
@bissau190 15 сағат бұрын
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m where did I say basketball is just about scoring?? I just mentioned those 2 because that’s EGREGIOUS to say you’d take Pippen over a couple legends of the game. Kobe and Steph are clearly better players to choose if you’re starting a team what are we talking about?? Them saying they’d take Scottie over Jokic is clownish also…
@baccendtyy1254
@baccendtyy1254 15 сағат бұрын
@@bissau190he ain’t say Kobe,but he def said A.I,Shaq and curry all guys who CARRIED their franchises which is actually insane
@dannysmith9676
@dannysmith9676 15 сағат бұрын
@@baccendtyy1254 he did say Kobe
@deltadefconii4459
@deltadefconii4459 15 сағат бұрын
🗣 GRANT HILL WE FORGOT !
@DurQCDur
@DurQCDur Сағат бұрын
K mart pippin over AI is bananas
@rezasanjari3305
@rezasanjari3305 25 минут бұрын
You missed the reason and the original question
@vernonblyden822
@vernonblyden822 15 сағат бұрын
The GOAT and the RING debate has rendered many good players' legacies null and void.
@DraGanix33
@DraGanix33 15 сағат бұрын
So much disrespect just to prop up 1 player.
@cooleekbrown1728
@cooleekbrown1728 14 сағат бұрын
Because the older generation likes to remove context and just say "6-0".
@DraGanix33
@DraGanix33 14 сағат бұрын
@@vernonblyden822 the funny thing is there wouldn’t be “6-0” without scottie.
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
That's because the conversation is done by narrow minded individuals and casuals. It's hard to have a legitimate conversation without people being dumb relying on accolades only when they tell half the story.
@RolandBullock-ej8wl
@RolandBullock-ej8wl 6 сағат бұрын
the fact that anyone questions scottie's legacy when you haven't done half the shit he's done....wtf
@randrickmack8561
@randrickmack8561 13 сағат бұрын
This man said he’s picking Scottie over Joker, AD, Luka and Antman. So he just going with better body type
@noyce.
@noyce. 12 сағат бұрын
And then he said no to Wemby/KG/AD etc... AND THEN saying yes to JKidd. And you got people in comments saying "I'm with Kmart" "Gil lost this one" WHILE Kmart saying Scottie over Jokic/Curry/Kobe etc. Infact he said (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards)
@antdawg78
@antdawg78 12 сағат бұрын
I'm picking Scottie over them as well. Not saying he better he just does everything
@randrickmack8561
@randrickmack8561 12 сағат бұрын
@@antdawg78 I agree Scottie does everything. He’s versatile but a guy like Luka or Joker. They Score better, and passes better. They actually average more rebounds also. The only thing Scottie does better really than those 2 is defend.
@noyce.
@noyce. 11 сағат бұрын
@ wild to double down picking Scottie over Curry/Kobe/Jokic
@lamarlashley8738
@lamarlashley8738 7 сағат бұрын
No diddy
@Be.Blessed
@Be.Blessed 15 сағат бұрын
I LOVE the way they just proved those 6 rings ain't as impressive as they try to make it seem. Telling me Jordan had a guy with him that would go 1st rd in an all-time fantasy draft? Over DWade, Kawhi, and maybe KD?! Tweakin
@sidjones16
@sidjones16 15 сағат бұрын
Depends on what type of team you're building. The 04 Pistons didn't have a "star" player. Imagine a team with 5 Pippens.
@zowalk321
@zowalk321 14 сағат бұрын
Any franchise that would pick Pip over any of those guys should be drug tested.
@lionface1364
@lionface1364 14 сағат бұрын
​@@zowalk321I'll take that drug test
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
@sidjones16 04 Pistons had 4 all stars and a previous franchise player. Stop acting like that team wasn't deep because they didn't really have a main guy, despite it actually being Rasheed Wallace.
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
Infact "Brother Knowledge" said he'd pick Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) ABSOLUTELY WILD..
@aaronsmith697
@aaronsmith697 5 сағат бұрын
Scottie is a top 30 player. He is arguably the 3rd best SF of all-time (some may argue KD because of his scoring abilities) only behind Lebron and Bird. But could you imagine taking Scottie at 30 and then in the second round, getting a KG, AI, Harden, Dirk, Moses Malone, Dwight, Dame, etc. to pair with Scottie. Crazy
@jdw_2130
@jdw_2130 16 сағат бұрын
Gil’s main focus is offense. That’s why he can’t see Pippen going top 30. He’s top 30 easily.
@HandsomeHeartthrob
@HandsomeHeartthrob 15 сағат бұрын
He top 30 against every number one option ever? lol. Y’all people say shit ‘outta ignorance & iss the funniest shit ever 😂
@BeeN-fy2jh
@BeeN-fy2jh 15 сағат бұрын
He's really not. Just from post 2000s players Jokic, Lebron, D Wade, Duncan, Kawhi, KD, Curry, Dirk, Kobe, Giannis are all easily better. No questions asked. That's 10 guys right there. That means Pip would have to be a top 20 player from 1946-1999. Stop it.
@otismichael2583
@otismichael2583 15 сағат бұрын
Its easier to find a great defender than it is to find a great scorer.
@thomasdr08
@thomasdr08 15 сағат бұрын
@@BeeN-fy2jhcurious how many all defense picks those guys have
@6d6575
@6d6575 14 сағат бұрын
​@@BeeN-fy2jhAgreed and Pippen never guarded the level of talent you mentioned.
@miicyah5
@miicyah5 15 сағат бұрын
scottie is my fav player of all time just watching him hustle so hard that engine they couldn't have gotten 6 without him steals rebounds blocks assist he did it all i have not seen a player since work as hard as him its just fucked up how his personal life had to get mixed in for people to look down on him as a player
@bodilly6221
@bodilly6221 15 сағат бұрын
Good point… still wasn’t half the player lebron is. I think people are already forgetting how good Lebron was
@richmorlang1854
@richmorlang1854 5 сағат бұрын
When a debate doesnt go his way gil changes the criteria
@GodsOwn88
@GodsOwn88 16 сағат бұрын
K Martin is tripping right now smh
@curtiscoffman6735
@curtiscoffman6735 14 сағат бұрын
This man said Scottie over D wade that is blasphemy.
@secondeffort139
@secondeffort139 14 сағат бұрын
​@@curtiscoffman6735the worst part is he said he will pick J kidd over pippen is wild I guess j kidd better than d wade too
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 14 сағат бұрын
Both, Kidd and Pippen are going to take you further than Wade. Y'all sleep. And I'm a Miami native/Heat fan saying this.
@curtiscoffman6735
@curtiscoffman6735 14 сағат бұрын
@ facts bro like Scottie was cold don’t get me wrong, but over dwade and Kobe is crazy
@curtiscoffman6735
@curtiscoffman6735 14 сағат бұрын
@@younglove3362 so you out Scottie on that 06 team yall still winning? Get yo fake Miami fan a$$ out of here
@Marley11st
@Marley11st 15 сағат бұрын
I think there's 2 different convos happening here lol
@jam7442
@jam7442 Сағат бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing. It's hilarious to watch
@skipbrainless2732
@skipbrainless2732 3 сағат бұрын
Picking Scottie over Kawhi is beyond moronical
@OfficialTravvyTrav
@OfficialTravvyTrav 15 сағат бұрын
11:27 Gilbert you lost this debate bro 😂😂😂 take the L
@noyce.
@noyce. 13 сағат бұрын
Yeah because the other two wants to pick Scottie over (Kawhi, Wade, Harden, Luka, Shai, AI, Bill Russell, KOBE BRYANT, Dr. J(maybe), Moses Malone(maybe), Curry, Dirk, Logo, Elgin Baylor, KG, Barkley, Karl Malone, Stockton, Havlicek, Isiah Thomas, Mikan, CP3, Cousy, Petit, Dom Wilkins, Nash, Barry, McHale, Frazier, Glove, Jerry Lucas, Reggie Miller, Clyde, Pistol Pete, Earl Monroe, Nate Archibald, Dave Cowens, Paul Pierce, Parish, Westbrook, Melo, Dame, NIKOLA JOKIC, Wemby, Morant, AD, Edwards) You simply can't "win" this debate, it's lost from the get go 🤣😆🤣
@plantbasedministries9233
@plantbasedministries9233 12 сағат бұрын
No he did not.
@plantbasedministries9233
@plantbasedministries9233 12 сағат бұрын
@@noyce.It’s a joke, I’m laughing out loud at this debate.
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