Gilbert Arenas Destroys Isaiah Thomas 80's defensive of schemes

[@MissSunshyne_]

You gotta invite Zeke to the show so he can defend himself 😩

[@BadWolve]

He used to the others playing all the defense for him 😛

[@beistrong8635]

going to Gil for defense is like going to

[@JarellLavender89]

The dig hand stops the crossover if tight so if you want to switch directions you have to do a half spin or behind the back

[@frazierent1415]

If you look at the old-school defense, the hand, Check is controlling your hips so he’s pushing you to the side. That’s why they said the game will be better because you won’t drive to the basket and come down on somebody foot 🦶

[@NochillGil0]

Side to side...what offensive player plays side to side today? how can u control my hip...if i never turn to the side...thats why u dont see the hand check is still there...players go down hill now( where was the hand check on these players (isiah thomas,tim hardaway,jordan, wilkins,kevin johnson,iverson) guys who wemt down hill....its easy to hand check mark jackson becuz he had to set up the offensive and dribble to the left side of the court so patrick ewing could post up

[@frazierent1415]

@@NochillGil0 you are absolutely right! When uncle Zeke was talking about left-hand to block the shot. The first thing I was thinking about with James Harden step back.

[@khalilwilliams1818]

right the thing is zeke could play that type of defence and it would work in a era you can actually handcheck and stay up on your guy now it work work because you can't handcheck u actually have to play off of him. you seen how even though the Celtics were handcheck kyrie but they could play more aggressive and you see he was held to 16 points. ppl don't understand if they allowed handchecking and more aggressive defence alot of the small guards wouldn't be scoring as easily as they do now . imagine if jalen brown could handcheck kyrie he probably hold him to 12 points because he bigger and stronger

[@RajaAdou]

@@NochillGil0No one was moving side to side. It was an inside out game back then, so you’re right, the guards were usually making entry passes to the post. But the notion that guys weren’t coming downhill isn’t true. Hand checking and certified rim protectors just made you think twice. It’s not about “old players” or “unathletic” players. When you say shit like that to an all time great player, it sounds disrespectful. Plus, yo ass ain’t so young anymore. 😂 You made 20 times more money than the OG’s and that’s how it’s supposed to be. But you gotta chill (pun intended) with the disrespectful tone/energy. These cats in their prime would make today’s soft ass players tap the fuck out. PAUSE!!! Very few even attempt to play defense in today’s 3 happy game. Sometimes the games are unwatchable. Combining for 80 three point attempts per game isn’t basketball; it’s a 3 point contest. That’s NOT basketball.

[@lamarpalmer25]

@@khalilwilliams181890% of the dudes in the 80s and 90s couldn’t dribble with their left hand lmao

[@yoyoyonono6329]

The old heads are funny, even when be having Sheryl on. Like it sounds so easy when you aint gotta do it against these elite athletes no more.

[@seansimms6693]

You mean these elite shooters who can’t dribble and carrying all the dam time🤣

[@RajaAdou]

All of today’s players are not elite athletes and just because they jack up 10 3’s a game, doesn’t mean they’re making them. 🤣😂🤣. Prime Zeek would embarrass Gil. Dude is disrespectful as fuck. He sounds bitter!!! He made 20 times more money than the”old heads,” so he should just revel in that. To think he knows more hoop than a HOF player is idiotic; especially DEFENSE!!!

[@yoyoyonono6329]

@seansimms6693 I know life use to be so good for you. Keep living in the past, you'll be the man again one day.

[@yoyoyonono6329]

@RajaAdou stop there are coaches who have never played that know more than HOF players and HOF players that would admit to it. Stop glazing the 80s.

[@Demik.]

Isaiah Thomas is definitely one of the greatest point guys ever and no matter what she said he’s the only player that has a winning record over Michael Jordan, but nobody talks about any of that. All you do is trash,my player. Well, might not have been on that dream team, but he got two more of a lot of those people on that dream team if you know what I mean. He was a team regardless of what team what kind of team he was on the top 75 greatest players of all time so when you’re trashing one of those players, it’s like you’re trashing yourself especially when you don’t have rings, but I love you, Gilbert. Keep up the good work.

[@phazexziimba]

thank you!!! 💆📠🗣️

[@thelakeshow499]

I usually Agree with Gil….but that’s exactly how I was taught to play defense and I was very good at it myself these younger players don’t know how to play defense the correct way Zeke Average 2 steals a game in his prime I wouldn’t go against that !!!!

[@izzykidd1]

I just feel people forget evolution is part of the game. I don't understand why people can't grasp that concept.

[@izzykidd1]

The game evolved. You said you'd played. So have the offensive moves improved since the 80s? Has dribbling improved? Has the creativity of offensive players improved? 80s defense was for 80s offense. Basketball got better overtime. That's why the today's Basketball don't play like the 2010s. 2010s don't play like 2000s. 2000s don't play like the 90s.

[@blinggzillatv]

⁠@@izzykidd1Yes, but we’re talking about fundamentals. Nobody is denying that there has been evolution offensively, but as you can see from the clip, sloppy defense is what’s common today. What Gil should do, is watch the best perimeter defender of the modern era, Kawhi Leonard, and analyze how he plays defense. I guarantee that you’ll see him display some of these fundamental concepts that Zeke is talking about. You can also watch how MJ approached defense. Please go look at how he played.

[@khalilwilliams1818]

has it really evolved or have the rules been waterdown to where u can carry now you can travel more and it not called like a zero step which is a walk or the step through which is a travel but is legal now and the lack of defence in 36 so I seen alot of basketball but to me basketball was better in the early 2000s sorry. I barley watch now because of the rules

[@chinbeats6551]

Gil be frying Zeke and it's hilarious everytime 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@joejoiner8582]

One is in the hall of fame, the other is in the Big 3... But let you tell it "Gil be Frying Zeke"

[@AquarianAngel]

@@joejoiner8582 Zeke had a good team to carry him to glory. Overrated.

[@SapienGalore]

@@joejoiner8582 Attack the argument, unless Gil and Zeke doing ones in the Arena, how again is who u deem to be a better player relevant to this discussion again?

[@joejoiner8582]

@@AquarianAngel Ncaa Champion and Final Four MVP, Played 13 seasons made Allstar 12x, 2x Champion and a finals MVP.... you a casual if you think he was overrated

[@joejoiner8582]

@@SapienGalore You can't fry someone who had a better career and is a better player then you. Gil is clearly hating

[@izzykidd1]

For those talking stupidity, have any of you played 80's basketball transitioning to 90's basketball? Have any of you played 2000s basketball compare to 2010s? I have. Watching and playing are 2 different things. Learn how to separate the two.

[@phazexziimba]

now this deserves to get pinned 📠💆🗣️

[@khalilwilliams1818]

right I can clearly separate the two the rules were different. too me isiah is talking from a 80s early 90s perspective because handchecking and aggressive defence was allowed today defence there none of that that's why it would be harder to guard now. handchecked take alot ofnthose crossovers away and the way zeke talking about having his left hand high was how I was taught back when I was you when handchecking was still in play.

[@blinggzillatv]

Yes, but we’re talking about fundamentals. Nobody is denying that there has been evolution offensively, but as you can see from the clip, sloppy defense is what’s common today. Gil what you should do, is watch the best perimeter defender of the modern era, Kawhi Leonard, and analyze how he plays defense. I guarantee that you’ll see him display some of these fundamental concepts that Zeke is talking about. You can also watch how MJ approached and played defense.

[@shizdakid]

Yea Gil right

[@walterpettigrew1991]

Hes talking about defending the shot not driving your relying on your teammates for help if you get beat off the drive

[@flamespittaz4]

I love how everybody commenting knows more than the man who did this for a living Isiah never played in this era or against players like today and when he did they had to damn near kill the man

[@soulinice8664]

Gill Chill...talk to Zeke yourself. T.A. worked the same defense.

[@labarbe0166]

The mc hammer can’t touch this defense is CRAAAZZZYY WOOORRRKK! 😂

[@ineffable_name]

Gil said mc hammer got the typewriter dance from pre90s era bball. Did the kool-aid man get his inspiration from there too?

[@ineffable_name]

I mentioned that gil saying OH YEAH needs to be a soundbite for gils arena......might as well add the TADA for when ISNT IT OBVIOUS that gil frying mccannons

[@icomethrough4545]

😂 this like your uncle telling you how to play defense at the family reunion

[@phazexziimba]

ROFLOLMAO #TRUE 😹

[@SSSMOR.]

Gil most jump shots are blocked when the defender uses his left hand to contest the shot on a right handed shooter

[@natalyasingleton30]

Attack the leg. 😂😂😂

[@ronbell7740]

I love Gil but on the subject of Defense I think I'll side with Mr Thomas.

[@clive7394]

I'm with Gil. It would take too long to challenge with your left hand in the clip shown.

[@ineffable_name]

If anyone was to fast forward, I am certain the 6:10 mark is most played. I don watch this 5 times since yesterday

[@NBS_VonGottiE]

Did Gil play defense 😳😳😳

[@wtwkell2793]

no

[@RajaAdou]

NEVER!!! Dude is audacious af 😂

[@ineffable_name]

Gil and mccannons need to do a basketball time travel sitcom

[@fast-y5g]

if you cant slide your feet to stay in front of a guy it dont matter what hand you try to block with. if you get blown by and they pull up, your left shoulder would be even further than your right one because you are trying to recover. why would you try to block the shot with the furthest hand?

[@nigodemoscarfo3149]

Picture you trying to tell a 12 time all star he don't know what he talking about. Gil ain't even play defense

[@lanellenglish2423]

Gil son better be the deal, cause Gil’s views and takes for HOF’ers is beyond disrespectful, I hope his son is built…talkin about the ring leader of the Bad Boy Pistons, a man that beat prime young MJ en route to back to back titles??? Ok….

[@phazexziimba]

…during pre aids Magic Johnson…Larry Bird in his conference too…btw Michael Jordan wasn’t winning any “rings” until ALL of them were out of the league already…

[@day._5k]

Gil right stop hating 💯

[@djdavejordan6498]

He's not accounting for the physicality of that time. Defenders could be more hands on, which made it harder on offensive players. If you drove, there was always going to be contact.

[@fishwiz94]

I mean there’s to many counters in the game today for that reaching to work

[@Rayne35]

Gil would break Zeke down like a blunt

[@nigodemoscarfo3149]

Zeek was way better than Gil 12 All Star selections in 13 years. Led the baddest team ever to back to back rings. He can't ever discredit Zeek. Gil didn't even play defense

[@Ghost-zh5up]

Gill got hurt men wtf are we talking and he actually got hurt lol gill would've given zeek buckets foreal.

[@nigodemoscarfo3149]

@@Ghost-zh5up he was a selfish prick

[@curtispayton6163]

​@Ghost-zh5up should've would've could've ass. Zeek accomplished alot. Arenas might have accomplished alot.

[@icomethrough4545]

Old era of basketball can’t teach defense for an evolving basketball game

[@chiefdymondwolf6764]

​@@Ghost-zh5up& he still would've been better than Gill. Nobody with a game like him has ever won a championship.

[@jefferyjackson134]

It's the best advice.

[@ineffable_name]

He might know he wrong but it's ok and profitable for zeek to be wrong it seems. I'm sure he been around enough of the newer school to know he wrong

[@moneyearl78]

Lol now you can question Gil's effort on d but yall gotta know you cant be a great offensive player without studying defense

[@christianisaac9327]

Gil arenas talkin bout defense. What’s next, shaq free throw tutorial

[@chiefdymondwolf6764]

Gilbert, left to right, & east to west IS THE SAME THING!!!!!🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@samuelhicks1268]

Mj avg 30ppg 6.7reb 6.1asts on 48% shooting supposedly with no left against the bad boy defense for his career in the playoffs. I see why now 😂😂

[@TheRoyalHour]

Zeke is one of my favorites ever, but this was terrible when you showed it the first time and it’s even worse now

[@savcitynineties4845]

It’s crazy cause if you go watch guys who get a lot of blocks on pull up jumpers, they do Zeke said to do, so he not lying frfr. Go watch kawhi defensive highlights

[@TheRoyalHour]

@@savcitynineties4845 it works in specific situations. This isn’t a one size fits all type of defense. Kawhi still contests with his front foot hand. It’s just common sense. It’s the hand that’s closer to the ball. This only works when guys are going left to right. If they are coming down hill, you automatically have to swing your back foot around to do this.

[@savcitynineties4845]

@@TheRoyalHour the situation he showed was contesting somebody pulling up , not getting downhill. And in some situations downhill it’s easier to get to a shot with your off hand if you can get to it off one step when the driver is taking a two step gather

[@ImaginationVideos816]

🤦🏿‍♂️I like your content Gill but you're 😂crazy for your take on 80's defense 🤣

[@robertcammon5969]

Gil didn't play D. SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

[@firstlast4070]

Tada is crazy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@princepromiseobiajunwa9133]

He's defending a chair😂😂

[@jean-marcpiper3009]

You see why they left him off the dream team lol

[@rashawngoston3247]

Gil only played in defense in court not on the court

[@tischarewalker5919]

Realizing GIL WENT TO COLLEGE AND DOESNT KNOW EAST TO WEST AND RIGHT TO LEFT IS THEVSAME SHIT

[@phazexziimba]

11:31 besides the old school hand check THIS IS FOR THE GUARDS NOW can y’all believe that they’re doing finger roll layups in the nba now like it is nothing REMEMBER PRIME D ROSE we had to duck our heads and cradle the ball before going up #AND1 s/o Mr.Filay LMAOOO

[@antoineb9371]

Isiah would have cooked Gil something nasty in his prime

[@mortalshateme3263]

Damn.

[@kytaem]

Trying to decide if Gil is credible speaking on defense. On one hand he could destroy any defender. But otoh he never played defense. So does he know defense?

[@frededwards5931]

It's only one way to settle this. Invite Isaiah to your back yard and test out your theory. And put it on utube

[@dallas7129]

I remember this stream lmao

[@ineffable_name]

Gil is the only person that be funny without ever trying. Kool-aid face ahh.....,,strawberry burst head ahh "oh yeah"

[@drknjayytellem5179]

🤦‍♂️ this man has literally never said he was as good as I.T. He’s saying that the 80s defense isn’t going to do ish in 2024. That’s all. Argue the point he is making.

[@Westlyn80]

I can't take Gils assessment seriously cause he was never a decent defender during his career. I'll take zekes advice, EVEN IF HES WRONG over Gilbert's defensive advice, n I'm not a big zeke guy.

[@kevinhawkins20]

They don’t even play defense

[@keithbailey6268]

Zeke is way better than gilbert and had the best defender of all time on his time, rodman

[@allenmcgaha8301]

Gil I fuck wit u but sometimes u just be talkin gang 🤣

[@Bearsizbackbby]

TAHHDAHHHHHHHH😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bdubs3695]

Gil looks dumb

[@roberthamilton3231]

Tbh no one’s wanna hear your opinion on defense because that’s not what your known for Gilbert

[@phazexziimba]

#true 🤷

[@dnative93]

Gil stop hating on the era before you and players that came before you. It's more to the game than just scoring . You a real hater. Hating on the OG legend

[@phazexziimba]

…he tryna sell his jersey and sneakers so can y’all #CHILL sit back and enjoy the show now…this IS the nba REMEMBER IT IS A BUSINESS 😴

[@NochillGil0]

@@dnative93 reality is reality.....the defense he saying was probably A1 in the 80's but they only had 1-3 moves lol behind the back/in and out weak between the legs 😂😂 That defense will be dumb since 95.....what ever a guard from the 50-60-70 say on how they played defense and offense is (irrelevant) with all due respect 💯 rules changed so how they go open then is night and day in these times.

[@dnative93]

@@NochillGil0 I never said you was wrong. Of course you know the game a billion times better than me but that's like Peyton Manning trashing the QBs of the 80's . Dissecting their footwork and throwing motions. Yeah certain things are obvious but it's like a certain respect that should be had for the previous era and players.

[@SapienGalore]

@@dnative93Being told one is wrong is disrespectful cuz one is older?

[@SapienGalore]

@@dnative93or did u heavenly imply that being told one is wrong is hating?

[@reg24178]

We gon listen to somebody who didn't play defense about how to play defense lool

[@SapienGalore]

So u don’t listen to ya parents, friends, wife, co-workers, professor etc about things they don’t do? By that logic, be consistent then and don’t comment, as we shouldn’t listen to u either about defense?

[@reg24178]

@SapienGalore u missed the whole point bro... if u never played defense in your whole career why would I listen to you over somebody who played on one of the best defenses in nba history

[@denverwickenhaeuser916]

says the defensive stopper of his generation....

[@slimrocket1955]

says 1 of the best scorers for a few years who got buckets on all the best defenders…he knows IT is talking BS and he would BBQ that old defense

[@TitusLennon]

Isaiah Thomas was not a defensive stopper

[@TheRoyalHour]

What league did you play in?

[@nigodemoscarfo3149]

​@@slimrocket1955get Gil out ya mouth, you probably never seen Zeek play.

[@Westlyn80]

Invite the man to the show n talk shop while he's there but bring the same energy as ur displaying right now.

[@ManojMKamath]

He don't want no smoke.

[@nickketter2957]

Must not know gil personality

[@Westlyn80]

@nickketter2957 I don't but it'll be cool to see Gil n zeke battle over xs n os

[@Josh-fz9sr]

Old head response. What zeke old ass gon do!?!?

[@Westlyn80]

@Josh-fz9sr zeke az will be polite n political as always. You know.. that passive aggressive sht he does with a suit n tie on, but will school Gil hard with knowledge . The question is.. Will Gil bring that same energy? I think they are one and the same type of person

[@NBS_VonGottiE]

Did Gil play defense 😳😳😳

[@rio6264]

doing that will lead to leg and foot injuries with that defense ---also, it will restrict jumping ability to block shot----gil 120% correct

[@Michael-qs1yd]

Gil is annoyng AF always criticizing someone. Gil, you have no rings. Zeke does!

[@windycityassasin1]

😂😂and so does AI, melo, chuck...... . what do rings have to do with anything?

[@Vinchicago]

@@windycityassasin1the best win rings…No excuses

[@bankheads550buildtv6]

@@VinchicagoRobert horry isn't better than Paul George or Tracy mcgrady 🤷🏾‍♂️ & he has 7 rings

[@mitchellajieroh]

Not for his defense

[@elliotharris3752]

Gil is an offensive assassin in the new school. So he would know better how to defend offensive players as he showed you in the video.

[@Baba_Yaga22]

dude stop you dont play no defence in your prime, invite isaiah thomas to the show lets see if you give same energy your giving now.

[@roberthamilton3231]

Ima take zeke word for it he really played defense

[@BadWolve]

You make it sound like he was on an all defensive team... He has as many defensive acolades as you and me and Gil....

[@roberthamilton3231]

@@BadWolve yea neither has Kenyon martin and we all know he was a helluva defender so I’m going by what I see not stats or accolades

[@boycottactivision]

The Double Spin was crazy, I ain't gonna lie

[@NBS_VonGottiE]

He talking about defending shots

[@joegalan9814]

Why listen to a crashout..Mr.Thomas is a bonafide champ.What has Gil won🤦💯

[@rashawngoston3247]

How many rings does James Harden and Gil Arenas have?

[@torrecoglover6424]

To get to the ball with the left hand he would have to square up at least.

[@ineffable_name]

To give something to the old school....at least they moved the ball and shot it when they were open. Nowadays it looks like whoever getting paid the most is forced the ball so overtly and everyone else get the crumbs (generally speaking)

[@dennismccray6774]

I’m m sick of Gilbert talking shit about 80s and 90s players. Cause Gilbert was a decent player in his time not like he was the man or anything. They would’ve locked his ass down back in those days

[@teedubb71]

You invite everybody and their momma on your show but Zeke. You've been going at this man and his basketball skill, knowledge and legacy for years now. Confront that man face to face

[@drezred8478]

Luka does that back down move right now and he is unstoppable. Zeke had coached and won titles on a defensive team. Bring these old school players on the show playa

[@elliotharris3752]

Yeah that’s bad old school advice. The closest hand is the challenge hand which is the top hand. If I see you raise that top hand, imma hesi and go right by you!

[@jahyahweh2226]

You shouldnt be reaching anyway. Feet moving, active hands and get in their chest. Funny thing is offense can still hook but the defense is hands off

[@SSSMOR.]

Gil u know offense but u dont know defense if the defender would of used his left hand to block the shot it would of challenged the shot better its not that hard to turn you're body to block a shot if you're an athlete

[@504sco]

I thought of a funny segment for Gil’s arena . Bettor or worse career vs Gilbert arenas and y’all argue about that and Gil defend his honor 😂

[@seansimms6693]

Gil…you never played D bro…how many all defensive teams did you make compared to Zeke? You played D with a dam gun

[@BigDic-qz8su]

Gil taks a lot of shit for someone who never made to the finals. Gils defense was trash. gik was worse than Luka

[@stevefrank9444]

There is no schemes now!!!!!

[@rayrichard4665]

Notice only nba players do this, mlb and nfl players don’t do this

[@genesis2k_]

this shit had me weak 💀😭try that shit zeke demonstrated and yo ass in the past my boy 👋🏼

[@Cyril_P.]

Invite Zeke n Joe D to discuss bro 🙏🏾🙌🏾

[@W.orld.Breaker]

Bro Gil. I been trying to these old heads this for years. And Zeke a fool for this one. Before he even did the demonstration, he was cooked 😭

[@rashawngoston3247]

Trying?

[@high_IQ98]

A LOT of us old head didn't even play organize basketball....I show mfers daily the 90-98 era was trash comp...word of advice lil homie, any time anyone says anything negative about Scottie pippen, conversation should be over.... ✌️

[@Moe718]

I hear you gill…but zeek was way better then you bro 😂

[@CTBSlash0509]

Gil is trashing another legend. What else is new?

[@jalinsimmons5203]

Its funny how people discredit Gil. Offensive players has evolved their offensive moves but defense has not. In the 80s that defense worked because there were only 1 to 1.5 Offensive players in his era. Most players in the 80s couldn't score more than 10-20 points so his advice on defense in today's game it doesn't help the players its hurting them

[@khalilwilliams1818]

no offense hasent evolved really defence has gone down you see at 9.38 kawaii is dribbling crossing him over and he giving kawaii alot of space what else do you see no handchecking and thats the problem . that's what zeke I leaving out . u see the was zeke and playing defence on the guy he up on him aggressive and also handchecking him ,yes that would work but in today's game where that's take away from you and you can't play aggressive defence it won't work. the lack of defence allows the offensive player ot get off. you see how jalen brown and jrue holid held kyrie to 16 point imaging if handchek was in he'll probably be held to 12 points. so no the office hasent gotten better carrying and travels is allowed more than ever. I barley watch now

[@user-wt9kk7hm6c]

BD use to give Gil the business.

[@crashHypnotize]

That stuff he talking was cool back then because most of them couldn’t dribble worth a damn.

[@zacharybutler522]

Attack the high leg. Thanks Gil!

[@bryandalisay5032]

he is not afraid of anyone driving to the basket because he had lambeir, rodman and mahorn in there lol

[@tylerjohnson5944]

Bruh he said for a contested shot and yoo ass say what if i drive of course it would be guarded different

[@RichHomieSlimee]

So tell me why defense sucks now then?

[@lamarpalmer25]

Because offensive players are actually good. Lmao they can dribble with their off hands and shoot from 30 feet with ease

[@ReallyGotMotion]

Old heads always think they know everything

[@FergJ86]

They do it’s called experience goofy and I’m 15

[@slimrocket1955]

@@FergJ86 outdated experience…today’s players are cooking that nonsense defense IT is talking about

[@Marlon-yu9ir]

Thats the problem for the young to evolve they had to have seen it first. Everyone is a genius after the fact but in real time you would have did the same exact thing.​@slimrocket1955

[@MistaNoName223]

⁠@@Marlon-yu9ir the issue is that the older generation didn’t see the current era of hybrid scorers night in and night out, so that “experience” IT is talking about is outdated. A completely different league and talent pool nowadays.

[@leancarter6308]

@@FergJ86you can’t own a Challenger from the 90s and try to tell me about my present day SRT. yeah the car might be the same (defense) but the times are different. you can’t help me.