Gilgo Beach Killings: Woman says she partied with Rex Heuermann | Banfield

Lorraine Paulino joins "Banfield" exclusively and discusses an encounter she says she had with Gilgo Beach serial killing suspect Rex Heuermann in 1996. Paulino says she met Heuermann at a small party and that he "smirked" a lot and "rarely laughed." She also says she feels a responsibility to speak out about the party because a girl they left behind with Heuermann is a potential victim.
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[@natashanyxx9486]

WTF was that? Is the guest on drugs or what?

[@erinbosch5915]

Probably if she's super nervous idk

[@Tritiuminducedfusion]

😂😅, I was like wtf is going on here.

[@ogadlogadl490]

Seems like she may of had stroke.

[@earthlingwithrocks9519]

I believe I heard this had a profound effect on her. Kind of a break down 😢

[@orionxtc1119]

happens after sex parties

[@mrich9654]

Is she still high? From the party?

[@gnia5705]

😂😂

[@JessicaCruz-ro4ps]

Because she’s black?

[@graceg3250]

She probably has eye ptosis. But you’re right, she sounds high.

[@robbieogle8622]

😂😂😂

[@earthlingwithrocks9519]

Traumatized.. can you imagine, no you can’t.

[@rickrichards9238]

And her boyfriend who took them there was a cop 👮 say less

[@robbieogle8622]

People are what they are attracted to.

[@marylamb9708]

Sounds to me like the cop brought Karen for Rex to keep. No other reason to leave her there, especially after she ran out naked and afraid. I believe this woman.

[@CikisHelyzet]

That makes absolute sense. The cop brought someone from the streets he knew was vulnerable and not likely to be missed in a hurry. Disgusting. Who was that cop??

[@marylamb9708]

@@CikisHelyzet Either she's too afraid to say (although she's telling the world about it and he knows this already - scary) or she told the cops and nothing's been done that we know of.

[@atombomb6719]

Tremendous implications

[@kimbaker3232]

@@CikisHelyzetYes name and shame this cop!! He obviously knew Rex. Rex probably asked him to make sure he left Karen there!

[@zefdin101]

People are being critical of this lady, but she comes off to me as being absolutely honest and that cop was clearly crooked and it sounds like the police chief in that town and some of his officers clearly knew about RH and probably assisted him in his twisted life of murder.

[@Sandywarhol645]

Did Ashleigh ask about her cop boyfriend? That seems very important, especially if Karen ran outside and they left her.

[@YES214]

She high as hell ! This was uncomfortable to watch..

[@earthlingwithrocks9519]

She is coherent and her statement is accurate

[@YES214]

@@earthlingwithrocks9519 she is not, but ok. Maybe that’s the norm for you 🤷🏻‍♀️ idk idc..

[@earthlingwithrocks9519]

@@YES214 what are you so hell bent on attacking the witness for? 🤷🤦🤷

[@YES214]

@@earthlingwithrocks9519 I’m not 😂 I believe her but she’s high af 😂😂😂

[@robynboone8256]

There is no telling how many victims there are.

[@PrettyGoodLookin]

Thank you Lorraine for being brave enough to share your story. Be well.

[@ellerose007]

This is just a snippet of this ladies full affidavit, I don't know why Banfield hasnt explained the full story. Go watch the John Ray symposium on The Interveiw Room, she reads out exactly how she ended up at Rex's house with Karen Vergata, her LE boyfried and meets Asa.. They were all swingers & picked up Karen off the street on the way to Rex's house. This lady wants justice for Karen. She's come forward as a whitness.

[@Hey_its_just_me_to]

Thanks!

[@traceysumner4781]

I knew it , I just commented about them picking her up. Going to have to find this

[@MaryMary-iw7wh]

What in the ENTIRE FK! LE left Karen.Where is this LE officer now! He is definitely involved.

[@dawn-mariecanale4913]

Supposedly if you go to a swingers party together, you leave together. It'd a strict rule.... that cop knew what he was doing by leaving her there. This woman's very brave stepping up and also dropping the bombshell that Rex and the cop were also being physical together- there goes rex' partner in crime. This Cop should be arrested and charged with these murders too. At least for Karen's..

[@sugawalls26]

...wait she said the men were physical together???? I def missed that. Let me go watch this again!

[@marylamb9708]

@@sugawalls26 Yes. It's in the affidavit.

[@RR448]

Who is the cop ?.. we need a name so we can make connections. I wonder if police are doing their job

[@ME-gz8yi]

What's this... there's swinger etiquette- who knew?! This whole thing is horrific... as if femicide were a sport.

[@OG710]

That lady is still recovering from all the partying she's done. Left her friend there. Goodness. That was the weirdest interview ever.

[@chicfini]

It was not weird. It was an interview. Why are y'all so terrible..

[@paradisesunprincess]

Of course, it's weird AF. CRINGE! That lady isn't all there in the head

[@FrenzyGanggang]

Wasn't her friend, the cop brought her along

[@SavvyMama]

Right? Wow.

[@chicfini]

Thank you

[@LyonhartZ2]

Increase the playback speed and it will sound much much better

[@gregdahlen4375]

ashley will sound like she's on amphetamines lol

[@pdxoneway]

What the F did i just watch

[@bobo0202]

🤣🤣🤣

[@janahutchins4684]

Why didn't you ask about her boyfriend???

[@for_reals_tho]

Now the real question , who TF is this cop!????👮‍♂️

[@laradale2540]

Its great that you had her on, but more importantly, after hearing the 911 call, that police apparently COVERED UP for 10 years, someone, (probably lots of someones), need to start asking questions via FOIA about EXACTLY WHO covered up what, and they should be in a CELL along side Heuermann. All the woman/Men/Child remains found on Long Island beaches MATTER. Maybe someone should investigate the Long Island PD and officers computers and phone records, so we get the WHOLE story. Plus Brooklyn PD Apparently. Good one... Shannan Gilbertt, did not tell 911 dispatcher that she was going to take a hike and expire of natural causes now, did she? Her little sister is 100% correct that Shannan, and the victims families deserve better. Dig a liitle deeper, because if she is telling truth, it expanded the 10 years overaight to almost 20 years of oversight.

[@rachael943]

Oh this goes back a long, long ways.

[@marylamb9708]

You're absolutely correct but it'll never happen. The corruption runs way up to the top. No one will touch it.

[@billyje4726]

Guess this cop should be investigated... 👈👈 Pretty weird.

[@Dreamtime-Walker]

Rex was Also “Burning Something in the Backyard” in her Longer Version of This Story. It’s Interesting to Finally Put a Face to Her Words which I do Believe to Be True. Clearly Her “Cop” Friend/ Swinging Partner Needs to be Investigated! Ashley❤

[@vprice777vp]

What is wrong with eyes? She sounds like she's medicated...

[@InterestedCitizen]

Rex's wife may not have participated in these sexual escapades but she definitely knew about them. The kids too but I can see why the kids might want to deny it. I can't help but wonder if the wife and kids went away at the times they knew horny dirty Rex was planning horrendous things for some women that would be loud.

[@billyje4726]

I too think she knew much more than she says... She is all about the money. She was glad he was rich, now she is asking for a go-fund-me... She knew, and "let him do his thing". Complicit. She could have prevented some of those killings....

[@MRdeepsea]

Swinging With A Serial Killer: The Lorraine Paulino Story

[@0302pickles]

Is she high on something???

[@Jgenx]

potentially not. Doing hard drugs for a long period can diminish mental capacity and speech.

[@MariaMongillo]

Does this interview continue? Many questions left unasked.

[@RWRogers]

This is one of the most bizarre interviews ever. I wonder the expressions of everyone in the news room as this lady spoke.. or attempted to speak, anyway. “And he’s VERRRY… alert.” . . . Yeah, but are you woman??? lol

[@abelis644]

Bizarre doesn't begin to describe this interview... wtf?

[@chicfini]

It was not bizzare. I understood everything she said, wtf was bizarre about it?

[@MariaMongillo]

I agree. The story was hard to follow as well.

[@alexgray8804]

she looked like she was falling asleep and sounded half dead. @@chicfini

[@chicfini]

@@alexgray8804 All of them in that life sounded that way, but I understood everything she said..

[@rachelkristine4669]

Higher than a kite & drunk as a skunk! 😂

[@dz7a756]

Only a minute in and can tell this interview should not be happening 😒😐😑. Be well and be at peace.

[@Mika77Top]

😮😮😮is thos lady ok ?

[@cynthiajones6013]

Karen “ looked scared”…And Paulino didn’t think to call 911 and report this…even Anonymously? Smh 🙄😏

[@MRdeepsea]

Just imagining her cop boyfriend saying “she’ll be fine. Let’s go” 😢

[@marymckay7154]

I think the lady was new to the country.

[@RWRogers]

@@MRdeepsea”it’s just a game. They’re playing!” - As adults do, In absolute horror. Smh absolutely insane!! Which leads me to the conclusion that this “cop” was in on it and the involved.

[@Tritiuminducedfusion]

​@@marymckay7154I think she's new to reality.

[@robertamccartney5500]

"Lawda Mercy"! Who was this woman's (Ms.Paulino) "COP" boyfriend? Was "HE" the reason this case was STALLED all these years? 😠

[@MrChemicals]

This lady is clearly has some issues and can’t be taken seriously unfortunately

[@emartinezr]

I have no idea how a news outlet would publish this interview... i find this an insult to the audience and to journalism.

[@TMartin-rf6wn]

She seems almost too high to make this up though.

[@Uncaged_cricket]

Who and where is the cop?

[@shaf60]

Apparently we ain't seen nothing yet.

[@mountainkat5248]

Can you imagine Ray Teirney putting this woman on the witness stand ? Not a chance in hell, imo.

[@ChalNjurshEp]

Not a chance! Shame on Banfield !!

[@dr4761]

Wow, who is this Police Officer boyfriend she was with? She is courageous coming forward.

[@symmetrycemetery8201]

This is (at least) the second woman w a cop boyfriend partying w Rex isn’t she? This is fckd up

[@helloitsme9808]

"Partying"? Code for switching partners. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

[@bobo0202]

I got high watching this

[@PrettyGoodLookin]

[@johnnykradio]

Does News Nation not screen? Yikes. I’m not believing this broad at all. Y’all are helping Rex with this.

[@jeannebarker]

Why were her eyes shut? This is really weird. Not sure I believe what she is selling. Honestly, this whole case grosses me out. Frickin strange. Wtf was that?

[@Cheriewest713]

Certainly one of the most bizarre interviews I have ever seen!

[@parolelangue]

Her story is not credible. Asa Ellerup grew up on Long Island near Rex Heuermann and is close to his age. She could not have been "brought" to the US from another country by Rex.

[@jacquiburlingham5275]

Maybe she's mixing everything up in her memory from other encounters with different people. she is not credible in that state of mind to me.

[@graceg3250]

Part of it is surely where her glasses lie on her face. She may also have eyelid ptosis. But she also may be high af.

[@skyleawood2649]

What depravity. A "party". Call it what it was; an orgy. And who is this "cop"? Where is he? Get this woman help and thank her for coming forward. If her story is true then Asa is complicit.

[@billyje4726]

I agree with you. I had that feeling from the start... His wige acts guilty. She definitely knew something was wrong. But she stayed for the money and maybe she was glad, it wasnt her... They should look into this. Also, they should look into that cop as well.

[@laradale2540]

So is the cop, that took Karen there, and left her there Hard to prove that one, but 🚫 t hard to prove the 911 Call from Shannon Gilbert. Cops hid that one for way too long. And they say she died of natural causes.... Someone has a sht-ton of explaining to do in LEAs

[@mariolara7057]

Cops name now

[@Lisa-vh3nh]

Is anyone else as confused with this interview as I am?

[@ChalNjurshEp]

Yes

[@SlimeOddlySatisfyingVideo]

Ask different questions than what she said with John Ray like why was Karen with you? Where did she come from, jail? So many details to this story. She doesn’t speak much English.

[@cinziamargaretti]

I wanna know who her boyfriend was? ! Has he been interviewed!

[@cjp74134]

She seems high😮

[@natalieesposito5611]

Maybe she had a stroke or something and she can't speak that well

[@mariolara7057]

Where did you dig that poor woman up, you guys just made her a meme. Jesus. The media has no boundaries.

[@emma_t_s]

John Ray had her on his symposium

[@mariolara7057]

@@emma_t_sthank you, they did not give the care needed in this interview given the way this woman was presented. She has very important information that needs to be investigated , she didn’t even ask this bf’s name? Just odd.

[@shondasmith5470]

Why are she just speaking up now if it's true? 🤔

[@p.a.753]

He weighs more than 240. JS

[@minkcoat6561]

Why are Ashleigh’s interviews so damn short!? Every time!?🤷🏾‍♂🤯

[@parolelangue]

Banfield: Did you come upon his wife Asa Ellerup or his adult kids? [at a party that supposedly happened in February 1996, two months before Rex and Asa married in April 1996, one year BEFORE his daughter was born and at a time when his stepson was six!]

[@mrs.conscious]

I notice that as well. Just bad journalism.

[@ChalNjurshEp]

IKR? Banfield has a screw loose. Shameful.

[@Mika77Top]

She is on drugs😮😢

[@LittleSuzi86]

Not buying what she’s saying. 🤨

[@parolelangue]

But NewsNation just did!

[@RedRoadRunner23]

Wtf. I’m not into what??!!!

[@archangel807]

How did he go back to the same secluded spot on the beach many times to put the bodies together at night?.....He created a cemetery.....

[@finddeniro]

Florida recognized voodoo as a religion.... in 1978..

[@kyledamron]

Lisk's family attorney's defamation of John Ray is crazy. John Ray has kept a spotlight on this case for the victims and their families. This woman seems incredibly reliable. I would not want the world to know i had a sex party with lisk and all the issues that opens up

[@stefanschleps8758]

Weird. 😮

[@sueannpeters4737]

She’s high!!

[@traceysumner4781]

A sex party, with a cop and a young lady that sounds like they just hired her. Karen was sleepy and hungry. And scared. The wife was there, she didn t particpate. But this Karen ended up being no 7 .

[@user-er3ri6sc3j]

The public has to realize that ordinary people are not the same as Hollywood actors who are professionals at their craft.

[@RawOlympia]

thank you

[@Mi_TobiMPiE1]

Even if she had said something sooner with the corruption of the police they wouldn't of even listened to her or possibly gotten rid of her too, I believe her.. shes not the one on trial that lisk sicko is and needs to be punished for all that disgusting crap he did and i hope they dont forget about that little baby that was also mudered and dumped like garbage..

[@damithasap]

when she said bedroom I was like where is she going with this? so she f'd the serial killer. that's perhaps why she looked dazed and confused here.

[@deniserose7335]

I still can't figure out how this woman Rex's wife has no money this guy was an architect for 30 years in Manhattan obviously they never updated their house it doesn't make sense to me that she has no money

[@dianabehr3169]

Cuz he spent it all on hookers

[@ChalNjurshEp]

They own several homes but had bank liens and MASSIVE DEBT

[@kellyshomemadekitchen]

This news guest must be the least credible sounding person I’ve ever heard speak.

[@marsha1310]

Who was the police officer?

[@brianhardgrave8709]

Rex’s microwave held a lot evidence. She states this in another interview

[@nofapobama]

Police officer huh? Color me shocked

[@chriskinkead9045]

Sounds. Like. This. Woman. Is. Drugged. Cant. Follow. Her. Wouldnt. Believe. Her. Either. Shes. Not. A. Very. Good. Witness. At. This. Time. If. Other. Woman. Was. Looking. Scared. Why. Not. Get. Her. Out? I. Dont. Really. Believe. Her. Will. Keep. Following. Updates. Tho. Im. From. Aus. Horrific. Case.

[@bluecube7247]

Terrible interviewer... SHE WANTED DIRTY DETAILS instead of the actual interaction between the rex household

[@laurens4561]

After the part A was there a part B?

[@Daily_Survivor]

🎉Why bring this poor woman on? Geez. Seems like you were really wanting to ask her about his wife

[@melinda3413]

Huh?

[@tombreckinridge6218]

If this is true then his wife knows a lot more of what was going on with him.

[@jmass1475]

I thought Rex only struck while his wife was away?🤔 Is it possible Rex may have used/paid a LEO and some lady to bring/drop off victims? Who's this LEO bf? Could it be JB? Careful trying to get that 15 mins(probably a bag as well) it might not turn out the way you'd hoped..the more you know🌠

[@brown_eyed_girl]

WTH? Doesn’t News Nation take the time to screen their guests before they get interviewed so THIS does not happen? This interview does more damage than good-unfortunately, she is no longer a credible witness.

[@jessicamorales2555]

Thank you Newsnation for giving credibility to John Ray's investigation. Great job!

[@ChalNjurshEp]

😂😂😂

[@elibeewee]

240lbs? Doubt that. 6’4” and beastly built. I’ll guess 320lbs.

[@hennesseyme9112]

Why would she go on tv to tell the world she went to a swinger's party at his home? Why didn't she go to the police instead of tv? she doesn't even sound coherent.

[@peoplefordani]

Who is vetting these guests?!

[@ricoricky98]

Creepy

[@deborahbaker4770]

I could never do anything with him you can tell he’s a sicko‼️

[@bridgetcooper6331]

She just provided proof the wife could be involved and knew what was going on. As well as a second accomplice. The Cop?

[@rowyourboat5361]

are the cops involved in this?

[@domoetker3967]

no way she party with him lol

[@jmac430]

Literally, nothing was accomplished in this interview...

[@helloitsme9808]

Partied?? A party to me is where you bring presents and eat good food. There is usually a special occasion such as a birthday or graduation. This just sounds like ick.

[@0703azgirl]

Damn

[@Tritiuminducedfusion]

Man, I'm from L.I.. Wonder how far Dildo beach was from my town.... sounds vaguely familiar.

[@Dizsumboosheet]

All of these mean comments here. Remember that the ladies and girls that he was interested in were in difficult situations back then and some may have serious issues they are dealing with now. I hope many more come forward and tell what they know. 😢

[@raerae2555]

News Nation, DO BETTER. This woman is barely conscious.

[@sugawalls26]

Hmmmm...me thinks the wife def knew.

[@suzyseaweed9112]

My eyes hurt watching her.

[@SavvyMama]

His wife needs to be investigated further.maybe she wasn't aware of the depths of what he was doing but she knew some things, its obvious.

[@normanspurgeon5324]

Callous thanks awaits you at the close of this video-

[@CikisHelyzet]

Terrible edit

[@KB-el6oz]

You need to have a better way to end your clips. 😂 Something so serious and next moment, Thank you for watching bursts. Great interview! Intel that might be helpful. I still think Michael Pak killed Shannon Gilbert.

[@orangewarm1]

At least he wasnt racist.

[@BenjaminPope]

Is she hiii?? wtf is up with this guest

[@origin-al9585]

I think Mrs. hummerman has a lot more to do with this than meets the eye

[@Tritiuminducedfusion]

Hummerman.... lmfao. 🤣😅😂

[@origin-al9585]

@@Tritiuminducedfusion fits her name perfectly, she was in those little sex parties. lol

[@ewingshannon]

Yet news nation still says the wife and kids didn't know! She's the worst interviewer. Won't let the guest talk!