David Gilmour's Binson Echorec - Dawner Prince Boonar Tube Deluxe

[@JamieSingsSometimes]

If only people could stop complaining about price. Why leave a comment complaining about people getting paid to make incredible gear. Stop complaining folks. No one is making you buy this pedal.

[@jonathan-smith]

Love the intro.

[@ssiowi]

Interesting Bjorn and, as always, appreciated! Thank-you. See @ Dawner Prince site; Paul Stacey and David Kilminster use these pedals. Feel we've heard the 'boonar' live with DK and on the Stacey-produced 'To the Bone' by Steven Wilson. Thanks again Bjorn for introducing us to Dawner Prince; lovely!

[@gilmourishofficial]

Cheers!

[@Kqhoa]

Been waiting for your video since I first saw this pedal! Sounds absolutely amazing!

[@gilmourishofficial]

Thank you!

[@trasto1731]

WoW! 🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@rodolfolarrea8493]

Best channel for Floyd sound in the internet universe …

[@gilmourishofficial]

Thank you!

[@douglasalvaradocorrales]

Love your Strat, looks killer and sounds great 🎸💥 Boonar has great tones 🎉

[@gilmourishofficial]

Thanks! Check out this in-depth video on the guitar here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqm9iZRurpKjorssi=ErMX2WeXFNAeKRTb

[@gabrielc1774]

Great demo but I wanna thank you for giving us that backing track!!

[@gilmourishofficial]

Cheers!

[@robertschubert5127]

That slide section was killer.

[@gilmourishofficial]

Thanks!

[@davemish4163]

For everyone complaining about the price; maybe you'd rather pay $3,000-$4,000 for the real thing? And then there's all of the maintenance. There is always the original Boonar.

[@kierenmoore3236]

Well, they’re “SOLD OUT” … so not overpriced, apparently …

[@janvanzuilekom]

The real deal is 7k and it comes with all the flaws , David Gilmour stopped using them due to the reliability issues, i have one sitting on my desk and thank goodness a local guy was able to repair the thing , i use the Boonar on my board and #42 of the Boonar deluxe will arrive at the end of this month , can’t wait to get it

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@janvanzuilekom Has it been made/posted yet? Have you been following them up on it? ☺️

[@kierenmoore3236]

Well, they are SOLD OUT, so we can stop whinging about it now, I guess … 😜😄 #asif 😉

[@CedricsSpecialLP]

Hey Bjorn, great demo. This is definitely great for the whole Echorec experience. But I do have a budget recommendation for Gilmour’s Echorec tones. Get a TC Electronic Flashback or Plethora and load up their Toneprint software on your computer or mobile phone. Under artists go to Andy Martin (he is the guitar player who demos pedals on the KZbin channels of Reverb and ProGuitarshopDemos) and load his TonePrint “Alter Ego E REC 2” into one of your TonePrint slots on your TC device. This is the same Echorec sound that you can find on the Alter Ego V2 pedal, but now it's available to every Flashback and Plethora. To me, it sounds accurate.

[@gilmourishofficial]

Thanks for the tip! Yes, the Flashback pedals are well worth checking into.

[@steverussell8804]

Thanks for the tip. I have the X5 so will be checking this ttoneprint out.

[@sunnibird]

Sounds like a great pedal, but it's crazy expensive. Too expensive.

[@Sea_Dove]

And the only person who can afford it is… mr DG 😂 For sure it’s very expensive thing…

[@kierenmoore3236]

Well, it’s SOLD OUT … so there you go …

[@sunnibird]

@@kierenmoore3236 I’m sure those dentists will be very happy

[@Sea_Dove]

@@kierenmoore3236 Do you know how many pedals they made? 😉 Just kidding… or maybe not… sold out of boonars in five first hours of release… PS: i’ve got small version. I think now we can name it like that. And it’s awesome. 🖖🏻

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@sunnibird Now, now, don’t be salty 🙃

[@easye9-21]

1200 bucks, I'll pass . Sounds good tho.

[@hotwax5623]

I bought the mini boonar 3-4 months ago...the pedal is a staple on my pedal board! Thank you for showing off this bigger version of dawner prince's amazing echorec! my favorite feature is the infinite swell...you can make some crazy fun soundscapes! Thanks again, Bjorn! 👏

[@gilmourishofficial]

Cheers!

[@BoomBoomBoom..]

Cool looking and great sounding unit. But I would still like to try a tube saturation pedal/device before or after the $300 non tube version vs this one to demo in the future.

[@gilmourishofficial]

The standard Boonar also has a preamp booster. Not tube but it adds a bit of saturation.

[@dr.gregoryweisswassernd7251]

Sounds great. I use the Strymon Volante which also sounds great.

[@janvanzuilekom]

I have the Binson one (tube version) and the Boonar and they come really close , the Boonar is on my gig board and the binson stays in the studio for known reasons , can’t wait to get the Boonar tube version

[@Sea_Dove]

It’s not fair 😢

[@Iliaspap80]

Great!

[@gilmourishofficial]

Thank you!

[@Amish_Trivedi]

I was marginally excited until I saw the price.

[@LonePigsyAndCub]

Great sounds, and thank you for the free track, I'm going to use it for busking!

[@gilmourishofficial]

Cheers!

[@kinleydorji]

Great playing!

[@gilmourishofficial]

Thank you!

[@easye9-21]

Thanks for the backing track. E minor, right?

[@gilmourishofficial]

Yes

[@1973asdf]

Hey Bjorn, thanks for the great video! Speaking of the tube preamp stage of this unit alone, how would it compare to a real Binson’s preamp? A tube stage is always welcome in the chain 😁

[@gilmourishofficial]

I don't have a Binson at hand so I haven't been able to do an A/B test. The Preamp on the Deluxe is pushing the input stage and adds a bit of saturation and compression. It makes the repeats sound a bit fatter and you can also turn everything down and just use the preamp to push the front end of your amp. It's not overly hot though so it's not a substitute for a booster pedal.

[@kierenmoore3236]

5:06 … So, wait … the Pulse was used on the lead playing, as well as the Boonar TD, from this point … ? Or was the Pulse only used on the backing/‘rhythm’ playing … ? 🤔 Thanks 🙏🏼

[@gilmourishofficial]

The Pulse was used only on the first solo on the main jam track set up for a fast rotary.

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@gilmourishofficial. OK, that’s what I thought … thanks for clarifying, Bjørn! 🙂🙏🏼

[@christophetourniaire4713]

Good morning Bjorn,i have the Boonar,do i need to buy the Deluxe Boonar ??thank a lot what is the différence ??

[@gilmourishofficial]

The Boonar has all the features and the tone but the Deluxe definitely sounds more authentic. Depends on how picky you are I guess.

[@nathan7063]

Hello I have a question, how do you get nice clear audio when recording guitar, I use my voxac15c1x, cakewalk with my scarlets solo 3rd gen with a Shure sm57 and I can’t get clear audio it’s always sounds muddy/muffled ;( any tips? Thank you

[@gilmourishofficial]

That depends on what you mean by muddy. Recording require a lot of practice and experimentation. A good place to start is to make sure you got a good tone in the room. Place the mic about 2 inches from the grille cloth on the amp and point it about where the speaker cone is glued to the speaker. Not dead centre but 2-3 off to the side. Move the mic closer to the middle or further away for more or less brigtness. Make sure you set the right pre amp volume on your sound card and DAW.

[@nathan7063]

Thank you!! You always have great tone ✊🏼

[@Moon_Vibex]

The SM57 sounds good only when paired with a good mic preamp who can fattens the mids and tame his treble, like Neve 1073, API 512c, Chandler TG2, etc. Into a cheap audio interface....it sounds cheap! Fizzy, treble, muffled, etc... I had the exact same experience with this mic. All the great guitar sounds we love were made with an SM57, sure, but not into a Focusrite Scarlett! The microphone is to the guitar, as the mic preamp is to the guitar amplifier: how can a vintage 1959 Les Paul sound into a 10W transistor combo? The same applies to a microphone. Try a Sennheiser e906, it sounds more balanced than an SM57 when connected to an audio interface, or alternatively keep the SM57 and buy a good analogue mic preamp. No need for a vintage Neve or API, today Golden Age Project and Warm Audio make great preamps at a very reasonable price. If you follow this route, you must also get a new audio interface that allows you to bypass the internal preamps and use the interface only the AD/DA converter, for example the Audient ID22. Recording a guitar amp is not rocket science, but it still requires some care. And the right tools.

[@billy1015BG]

HI Bjorn what do u think about this rotary pedal DigiTech HardWire TR-7 i have a huge sale and was wondering if its good enough for Davids tone!

[@gilmourishofficial]

I haven't tried it so I can't tell.

[@Moon_Vibex]

the definitive rotary pedal for Gilmour tones is the Boss RT-20. I was lucky/intuitive enought to get it when it was still in production at a reasonable price, today I see it for €350. Ouch! 🥲 Alternative: H&K Rotosphere, but never tried it.

[@billy1015BG]

@@Moon_Vibex just bought rt20 for 150e 🫡

[@Moon_Vibex]

@@billy1015BGWell done! Very good catch for today prices. I paid it 160€ brand new back in 2012 from...ProGuitarShop!!

[@brycewalker6110]

Do you have much experience with the strymon volante?

[@gilmourishofficial]

Nope.

[@harounel-poussah6936]

Hi Bjorn. The Echorec has just been reissued, I think by T-Rex (very very expensive, about €2k) Boss has just issued a new analog delay, the DM-101, a digitally controlled BBD one with very interesting features like behaving like there are multiple recording heads on a tape, etc... Some say the sound is as good as with the Moog MF-104 which has absolutely stellar sound.

[@kierenmoore3236]

Neither of those pedals have the best old analog chips, tho’. They still sound very good, mind.

[@harounel-poussah6936]

@@kierenmoore3236 Sorry, but I know electronics a bit, the BBDs in the MF-104Z are the real deal : the old best 18V BBDs, not the recent reissues in 9V. Considering the very few numbers of MF-104s built, well... Do you own one or two? We're not a lot of users on the planet! I'm considering the DM-101 (and IDK what's inside, unfortunately) because it will definitively be much easier to manage in a guitar-rig than the two MF-104Z: piloting 'em thru CV (control voltage) from the Doepfer MCV-24 is a bit a piss off, moreover, I don't need the full Fooger collection to be used for guitar and the MF-104Zs can absolutely serve for the synths or the studio, in fact, I plan to buy a modular synth in the future. When it comes to the DM-101, if it has the 9V reissue BBDs, I stashed old 18V ones in case of issues with the MF-104Zs, I can absolutely do a little circuit bending and adapt the power supply, there are high chances that this unit will be recased into an 1U rack enclosure with many other stompboxes: you know, a 19" 1U frontplate has room for 100+ pots, some are 45cm deep and you can easily stuff 3 if not 4 layers of PCB if you're good at playing Tetris...

[@Musicislife668]

Price is insane for a pedal

[@christophetourniaire4713]

Hello i bought The Boonar 3 or 4 years ago,do i need to buy the new one ??thank a lot

[@kierenmoore3236]

Yes. It’s the law.

[@gilmourishofficial]

The Boonar has all the features and the tone but the Deluxe definitely sounds more authentic. Depends on how picky you are I guess.

[@Skrubenz]

Sounds awesome, but that price tag is insane.

[@kierenmoore3236]

Well, it’s SOLD OUT … so, there you go …

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@edreynolds8721 The point being, he wasn’t that “insane” when he priced it (I was actually responding to the OP). If anything, he could have priced it higher.

[@Skrubenz]

@@kierenmoore3236 Supreme charged 30 dollars for a brick and they all sold out within minutes, not to mention all of their other horrendously overpriced junk that is gone instantly. Just because something sells out, that doesn't mean it isn't overpriced. I also didn't even call it overpiced, just said it had an insane pricetag, which at 1200 dollars for an Echorec sim pedal, it absolutely does.

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@edreynolds8721. ☺️ What do you subjectively mean by “a low number”?

[@kierenmoore3236]

@@edreynolds8721 No … I meant, what would you call “a low number”? 10? 50? 100? Comprender?

[@JksGuitarCave]

Sounds amazing and I would probably be willing to pay half of what it cost…

[@HEZ63]

Good sounds, but much too expensive for my taste. But I anyway am no real Echorec fan, I prefer an Echoplex sound and this the Dunlop EP103 offers me at a fraction of the price of this pedal. Copying a typical, decades old Pink Floyd sound also makes no sense to me. What for?

[@Musicislife668]

I think PastFX needs to do a clone.

[@mrmonsoon0001]

Well, go buy a real one then.....

[@David_Barrett]

Is it better than the Echorec?