Gil’s Arena Blows Up Over Player Image & Team USA (again)

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Gil's Arena

3 ай бұрын

Gil’s Arena Blows Up Over Player Image & Team USA (again) as Gilbert Arenas and Kenyon Martin reignite a previous debate over whether or not player image matters on Team USA and if players with controversial pasts like Kyrie Irving & Ja Morant deserve a chance to play on the world stage.
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@Ybthadreadhead
@Ybthadreadhead 3 ай бұрын
“Both you mfs are simple minded” 😂😂😂😂 I felt that Kenyon
@JoshBeFreeTV
@JoshBeFreeTV 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon said what I believe every single time I hear Rashad talk 🤣
@Ybthadreadhead
@Ybthadreadhead 3 ай бұрын
@@JoshBeFreeTV Rashad and Gil! 😂😂😂😂
@philtex107
@philtex107 3 ай бұрын
Man i am crying with this one lol@@JoshBeFreeTV
@jamaloliver6940
@jamaloliver6940 3 ай бұрын
well you braindead tf🤣 you think other mf contries was gonna try and bring up wtf ja did? nobody worried about that shit anymore,if he was healthy he would be playing
@jamaloliver6940
@jamaloliver6940 3 ай бұрын
@@Orlandofinesse2tymes no it really isnt deep🤣😂 tf you talking about couldve gone deep? wtf stopped it from going deep?😂 delusional ass you do know what ja did is legal right? talking like he was running a buisness on guns,where he was a gun is legal,its just the nba had a problem with it
@PatBlackJR
@PatBlackJR 3 ай бұрын
9:15 Kobe was accused of sexual assault in 2003. The USA summer team in 2004 did not have Kobe on the roster. it wasn't until the following Olympics that Kobe was brought back. The same thing would have applied to Ja which is Kenyon's point. Mccants fumbles again.
@CamPerry
@CamPerry 3 ай бұрын
Yep Kenyon on the money
@AgentKB21
@AgentKB21 3 ай бұрын
Kobe also had to miss out on 1 maybe 2 MVPs due to image
@Duke-SaintsSaintsLiveFoxSports
@Duke-SaintsSaintsLiveFoxSports 3 ай бұрын
And Gil fumbled too
@The_Crown-Codm
@The_Crown-Codm 3 ай бұрын
@@AgentKB21I’m a die hard Kobe fan and you’re 1000% right. Kobe didn’t play that Olympics. Rightfully so. Its history and Kmart is right on the money. Kobe had to fix his image. Winning helped but staying out of trouble helped more. 💯
@Karega
@Karega 3 ай бұрын
Wrong. Shaq, KG, Rasheed, Webber, Carter, McGrady, Ray Allen didn't play and it wasn't because of image. Kobe didn't want to play.
@sneezy-e
@sneezy-e 3 ай бұрын
“We need Dame Lilliard” “Unless he bring his family, we can hold off on that too” 😂😂😂😂
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 3 ай бұрын
that was out of pocket
@harveyvictorcreatives
@harveyvictorcreatives 3 ай бұрын
whats that mean
@brianasiago859
@brianasiago859 3 ай бұрын
@@harveyvictorcreatives apparently dame not playing like his old self is cause he doesn’t have his family around him anymore
@andrewmarxer774
@andrewmarxer774 3 ай бұрын
Josiah’s face after that had me rolling…. He’s like. This mothafuxka gil rlly jus said that shit😭🤣🤣
@realkelvincampbell
@realkelvincampbell 2 ай бұрын
Dame is a volume shooter and scorer bau his type of game doesn't contribute to team wins. It's more for individual stats. I'm happy Holiday made the team. Holiday's play contribute to winning. Sometimes when the team needs lockdown defense, I like KCP and Holiday among guards.
@CREEDO.
@CREEDO. 3 ай бұрын
*the loudest one in the room is not always the right one*
@noisepuppet
@noisepuppet 3 ай бұрын
Still I would be disinclined to contradict Kmart at those decibels 😂
@jakemurnion4306
@jakemurnion4306 2 ай бұрын
Tell that dipshit mccants that..
@tyelerf157
@tyelerf157 Ай бұрын
They’re all loud
@victorsantiago2420
@victorsantiago2420 Ай бұрын
Let’s be real- Kyrie ain’t going bc he talked about JEWISH PEOPLE- they could care less about image unless it pertains to white-
@vaughnmiller4371
@vaughnmiller4371 Ай бұрын
That would be Stephen A Smith. Oh my bad he's not in the room but I still hear him.😂
@isaiahisaiah2288
@isaiahisaiah2288 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon is 1000% right ✅️
@marioholmes7260
@marioholmes7260 3 ай бұрын
He not right tho. It a business. If the player is selling crazy as atm he getting a USA jersey that’s a fact idc what he did unless he got banned
@jeffersondesrosiers5921
@jeffersondesrosiers5921 3 ай бұрын
No he not there too much shit going worldwide there literally genocide happening you think other countries care about a player branded a gun in a state that it open carry most people overseas probably don’t even know about the incident
@LuhhHotBoy
@LuhhHotBoy 3 ай бұрын
He’s not tho😂😂
@Tumorcoach
@Tumorcoach 3 ай бұрын
@@marioholmes7260no this just what morons believe😂
@theklr
@theklr 3 ай бұрын
@@marioholmes7260 nah. Kmart talking about morning shows and night light host tours. He’s unfortunately at this time he’s scaring the ho-usewives. Nike may want him but, Polo, Coca-Cola, Comcast, and Visa also have to be behind him.
@Ladonko2009
@Ladonko2009 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon the only voice of reason on here. He tired of seeing ratchet behavior being portrayed as representative of his community, upholding a standard
@tclass99
@tclass99 3 ай бұрын
He was the only adult in the room for this conversation. Without a doubt.
@juliandozier2628
@juliandozier2628 3 ай бұрын
Lmao @ ratchet behavior. This is a filthy tone
@devantezephis8068
@devantezephis8068 3 ай бұрын
How​@@juliandozier2628
@DreDaDon16
@DreDaDon16 3 ай бұрын
If Lebron wanted Ja on the team Ja Morant would be on the team and I stand on that....that's all Gil saying
@Ladonko2009
@Ladonko2009 3 ай бұрын
@DreDaDon16 I think we all know what he's saying. Just that Kenyon gets that the league and olympic committee probably wouldn't want him there, not for performance reasons obviously. Even if they took him, there would be unhappy higher ups. It's pretty stupid to go so hard in the paint on this though, because the talent pool is so deep for US, there's no need to pick someone who's a bad look for the team. France soccer did the same thing with Benzema a few years ago, they were the best team in the world, he was their best forward, but he was involved in a legal scandal, he wasn't suspended by his team, but France didn't want him on principle. I think I agree. But that's what debate is for. Cam Newton's fight the other day, Ja with his gun stuff, it's just lols online people joking about the clips, but to a lot of non-black people who see this, it's not helping the image of the black community in their eyes, and in the eyes of a segment of the black community. Maybe you think someone's social media profile posing with a brick of cash by their head, flipping gang signs, doesn't say anything about the person, or how people perceive that person. I can tell you that it matters to some people. Some people like that LeBron had so scandals and is a family man, some people don't care at all, and some people dislike how Ja conducts himself, and some don't care at all. The point is that it matters to some people, a decent amount, to the point that they have talks about this stuff in team selection. Gil of all people should know, because where he could go play after his gun scandal had something to do with that scandal, and not just ability. Sort of shows how unaware the guy is of public perception of people.
@StraightFromDC
@StraightFromDC 3 ай бұрын
The best episodes are when Kenyon turns into Samuel L Jackson 💯
@remidibeatz8780
@remidibeatz8780 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ThurstMETV
@ThurstMETV 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@TheDefenseIsUpNext
@TheDefenseIsUpNext 3 ай бұрын
"You so simple-minded dawg", is what Gilbert needs to hear way more of😂 😂😂😂
@tahneenicolaou289
@tahneenicolaou289 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon is the only reason I watch this, cause when he’s not on it no one puts Gil back in his box!
@HeartOTC
@HeartOTC 3 ай бұрын
Same as Joe Budden podcast. When Ish isn’t on to give Joe push back it’s boring
@JuicyMcnamus
@JuicyMcnamus 3 ай бұрын
Norris Cole too
@under-a-rock5444
@under-a-rock5444 3 ай бұрын
Gil the type of fool to bring a gun into a locker room.
@illplaythedevilsadvocate1231
@illplaythedevilsadvocate1231 3 ай бұрын
It’s disturbing that they don’t agree with Kenyon! Image on the world stage is everything!
@awhite3361
@awhite3361 3 ай бұрын
Tell that to Russia, U.S, China, Israel or literally every first world country has blood on their hands but gets to participate. But a kid who didn't break any laws doesn't? You tried 😂😂
@skillethead15
@skillethead15 3 ай бұрын
If image didn’t matter then Ja Morant would never have been suspended to start with. The last thing the NBA wants is their stars going overseas tarnishing their names. That’s why they are sending their model citizens which have never had an off court issue with LeBron, Steph and KD. They have been there before and everyone else will fall in line.
@rdgpats
@rdgpats 3 ай бұрын
@@awhite3361Russia is not a first word country. Its a second world country and the reason for the 3 worlds model. Even under todays definition nobody is calling Russia a first world country.
@awhite3361
@awhite3361 3 ай бұрын
@@rdgpats regarding my statement, put the word "or" between Israel and literally. Anyways you chose to go after a typographical slip versus addressing the hypocrisy. Countries can drone bomb a hospital, order hits on their enemies, kill and cause collateral damage to innocent civilians and infrastructure but an individual who didn't break any laws, took vids and pics with a 🔫 can't represent that very country because of the image?
@TMac8906
@TMac8906 3 ай бұрын
Money talks like Gil is saying times is changing
@KLRYXO_TV
@KLRYXO_TV 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon said , “Is we thew or is we dunn” 😂😂😂
@jorgevelez2458
@jorgevelez2458 3 ай бұрын
Bro... I'm in the Middle East. A dark skinned Arab with dreads was throwing trash in a can and they made a gun joke. They don't "care" but the image is there.
@iknotwill1261
@iknotwill1261 3 ай бұрын
It’s not about yall caring, it’s about the people who run it caring
@erik3205
@erik3205 3 ай бұрын
I did hear Grant Hill who is on the committee, say they took Draymond's suspension and therapy into the equation when his name came up for consideration. Kmart is right on this one.
@CamPerry
@CamPerry 3 ай бұрын
Yea if Draymond not on no way in hell Ja would be on
@erik3205
@erik3205 3 ай бұрын
@@CamPerryExactly, they thought it wasn't best for him to be on there. That just choke and slap. This dude boys supposedly was flash lasers at Pacers bus, he was in the strip club waving guns, and then was caught again with a gun. There's no way that convo ain't coming up when Ja name comes up.
@MagicEmpireTV
@MagicEmpireTV 3 ай бұрын
Draymond isn’t a face of the league n doesn’t make millions for the sponsors of team USA
@islandboi1988
@islandboi1988 3 ай бұрын
​@@MagicEmpireTV EXACTLY
@Nick-it7eu
@Nick-it7eu 3 ай бұрын
Nah it’s different listen to what Gil is saying that team is run by Nike they woulda put Ja on that team if he was healthy
@JesseLloydXVI
@JesseLloydXVI 3 ай бұрын
ARE WE JUST GONNA IGNORE RASHAD PRONOUNCING HAMAS AS HUMMUS?! I'M SO DEAD BRUH LMAO
@H1MXavier
@H1MXavier 3 ай бұрын
He’s so not qualified for this convo
@notimportant3686
@notimportant3686 3 ай бұрын
oh man... i literally thought he was being funny and MEANT hummus.... i gave him too much credit
@cjkeys809
@cjkeys809 3 ай бұрын
Who gives a fuxk about pronunciation?
@mr2ao
@mr2ao 3 ай бұрын
I came to the comments to see if anyone else caught it 🤦🏾‍♂️
@nisargdave1231
@nisargdave1231 3 ай бұрын
lol
@nikofoto
@nikofoto 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon called them “simple minded.” 🤣 They really are. It’s like they never left their city blocks before. Is Kenyon going to be invited back?
@Coreyw2003
@Coreyw2003 3 ай бұрын
I think he's a regular
@noisepuppet
@noisepuppet 3 ай бұрын
Knives didn't come out or anything😂
@nikofoto
@nikofoto 3 ай бұрын
@@Coreyw2003 Not with the way he sonned those boys.
@nikofoto
@nikofoto 3 ай бұрын
@@noisepuppet Close enough. LoL
@bigmac27sauce59
@bigmac27sauce59 3 ай бұрын
"Nobody was talking about that once he got back" *Ja does the same dance celebration everyone else is doing* The national media went crazy.
@ChrisIchiban
@ChrisIchiban 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon's so done with the topic by the end 😂😂😂 I agree with him 100% tho
@MagicEmpireTV
@MagicEmpireTV 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon is simple minded he keeps referring to shoes on someone’s feet when Gil and Rashad are referring to the influence and money Nike puts into the Olympics which can influence who they decide to put in the team especially when they are the biggest sponsors of team USA and the biggest stars are Nike athletes. Imagine if Nike says if u don’t select player a we will talk all of our stars out of joining team USA, the Domino effect it will have on the outcome of who wins the gold medal, especially in times where they make more money off the court than on the court, you can sell shoes forever. Just look at Michael Jordan, Deion Sanders, Ken Griffey, Junior, but you can’t play basketball forever. It makes sense to keep Nike. Happy to keep that money coming in. I do understand it’s about image, but in today’s society, Money, Trump’s image Money can create an image.
@Cuz_alegend
@Cuz_alegend 3 ай бұрын
Nike wouldn’t pull their stars out of the Olympics for a player that is not yet established as a Jordan, or Lebron due to the risk of backlash from Morants incident being recent. Image does play a part, just ask AI, and Michael Vick. Once media gets a hold of a story/narrative, the mixed perception of society can make a negative, or positive impact. The suspensions, and not being on the Olympic team would be the distance created due to Morant being a risk factor.
@dennismugo3220
@dennismugo3220 3 ай бұрын
@@Cuz_alegend THANK YOU. These people act like Ja is the biggest story in the olympics we have 39 year old who just hit 40K, we have a bonafide star in KD. you think their revenue will take a hit because...*checks notes* Ja isn't around. simple minded.
@Cuz_alegend
@Cuz_alegend 3 ай бұрын
@@dennismugo3220 Exactly
@newelldavis1858
@newelldavis1858 3 ай бұрын
@@Cuz_alegendexactly Bro ..if Ja played well and kept his nose clean all season he would have had a chance to make the team ..Nike is a HUGE factor ..so is giving a KID a second chance etc ..this ain’t the old politics of Jordan’s era or When people like Bobby knight coached the team ..coach k coached the dirtiest most successful college program….Ja had a shot ..he didn’t shoot anybody or commit a crime ..Damn
@mekosloff
@mekosloff 3 ай бұрын
Through a marketing lens; Nike would 100% want the whole team be Nike athletes - Not to mention the ability to market around Ja’s “redemption” story.
@mekosloff
@mekosloff 3 ай бұрын
If it makes money it make sense.
@BeEazy816
@BeEazy816 3 ай бұрын
It’s not as hard of a concept as Kenyon was making it. We see it on a global scale daily. Of course it’s gonna happen at the Olympics. Commercials, merch, you name it and Nike will have a hand in it.
@jamesfrancis4210
@jamesfrancis4210 3 ай бұрын
They would want it but for this olympics they would not get Ja on the team
@Cjmcghee91
@Cjmcghee91 3 ай бұрын
I'm with K-Mart on this one. Kobe's situation was going onduring the 03-04 season and he was not on the 04 Olympic roster. They keep talking about shoes but they are not addressing the point that Kenyon is making.
@tayshaunrichmond96
@tayshaunrichmond96 3 ай бұрын
Best podcast around 💯. Gil Got Some Real Ones Around Him . Even Though They Have They Ups & Down. “ They Not Perfect, But They All Worth It”.
@carl1799
@carl1799 3 ай бұрын
Them having Jrue Holiday in consideration should tell you how much “IMAGE” plays a factor!!!!
@trevey16
@trevey16 3 ай бұрын
He defly carry hisself as a man thats on business. A true leader
@shawnsmith8335
@shawnsmith8335 3 ай бұрын
Lol jrue is one of the top 2 way guards …. That’s why you need a lil bit of defense it ain’t a all star game . Dame don’t do nothing bad off the court neither does brunsen or Jamal Murray all statistically better but on court besides the #s jrue is a champ & can defend
@ron27401
@ron27401 3 ай бұрын
@@shawnsmith8335 Jamal Murray is Canadian though so he wouldn't be eligible to play for America.
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 3 ай бұрын
Jrue is best decensive perimeter player..image means nothin
@shawnsmith8335
@shawnsmith8335 3 ай бұрын
@@ron27401 you right I was just saying , image had nothing to do with him making cause brunsen and fake image clean and they average more , that pick was off of his play not his image like the comment was suggesting
@terrancecampbell5710
@terrancecampbell5710 3 ай бұрын
Just because you talk louder doesn't make you right. Kenyon is completely right on this one.
@everettewingfield5123
@everettewingfield5123 3 ай бұрын
Kmart wanna smack these fools 😅
@cmoe6134
@cmoe6134 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon the one taking loud😭
@edsondepina8430
@edsondepina8430 3 ай бұрын
YO KENNION WAS LIKE "IM DONE WITH YOU TWO" 😂😂😂😂😂
@julianrivera7934
@julianrivera7934 3 ай бұрын
McCant said that talkin bout that “humus”😂😂😂 he meant Hamas 😂😂
@Skankhunt-wl5jy
@Skankhunt-wl5jy 3 ай бұрын
Ahahhaahahah😂😂😂😂😂😂
@newwbein
@newwbein 3 ай бұрын
i love when the co hosts get on Gil top and hold him accountable/call his opinions BS. real barber shop talk. and real men for keepin it all entertainment.
@lamart3857
@lamart3857 3 ай бұрын
Pause
@Yoleezy7
@Yoleezy7 3 ай бұрын
When he said Sha’carri Richardson..I knew he was about to piss Kmart off😂😂
@anthonygalvez362
@anthonygalvez362 3 ай бұрын
Man as soon as ja came back and hit the game winner, there was memes of him with a gun. So people don’t forget. Image matters
@491Gusto
@491Gusto 3 ай бұрын
Rashad ended up agreeing with Kenyon in the end & still got called simple minded 😂😂😂😂😂
@TJ-fu5kr
@TJ-fu5kr 3 ай бұрын
Kobe not being on the 2004 Olympic team is all the evidence you need.
@deshaunblocker1323
@deshaunblocker1323 3 ай бұрын
So why didn’t he participate in 2000? He just won a championship and was a top 2 sg in the league
@niriboy8952
@niriboy8952 3 ай бұрын
@@deshaunblocker1323same reason he didn’t do the movie “he got game” he said he wanted to work on his skills all offseason
@crashboy0
@crashboy0 3 ай бұрын
You make it sound like Kobe was the only superstar who wasn't on that 2004 Olympic team. At the time NBA superstars didn't like participating in national team events in general (this changed in 2008). You know who else wasn't on that 2004 team? Shaq, KG, Vince Carter, Mcgrady, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Jason Kidd and many others. In fact Duncan and AI were the only ones to say yes to team USA. And do you know why? Because Larry Brown was the head coach (AI's former coach) and Popovich was one of the assistant coaches. So not EVERYTHING is a conspiracy against Kobe. Why wasn't Kobe on the 2000 Olympic team or the 2002 FIBA world cup? Because he was focused on winning rings and didn't give 2 shits about anything else. He only joined once the culture among NBA stars changed.
@Clarkadoodledoo.
@Clarkadoodledoo. 3 ай бұрын
@@crashboy0what are you talking about? Lebron James Carmelo Anthony Allen iverson Dwayne wade and Stephon Marburry were on 04 team. Olympics has always been taken seriously you have no clue what you’re talking about.
@crashboy0
@crashboy0 3 ай бұрын
@@Clarkadoodledoo.No what are YOU talking about? You are the one who has no fucking clue about anything and you missed my point entirely. Duncan and AI were the only SUPERSTARS on the team. Marburry wasn't a superstar but he deserved to be on the team. The other 9 guys on the roster however made it only because a bunch of other players refused to play. Lebron, Carmelo and Wade were just done with their ROOKIE year. They were young players with potential but they were FAR from superstar status, like the rest of the players I mentioned. Or are you so fucking stupid that you think that in 2004 Lebron, Wade and Carmelo had the same status as Shaq, KG, Vince Carter, Mcgrady, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Jason Kidd? Go look at how little playing time Lebron, Wade and Melo got. It seems like you googled the 2004 roster and saw a some big names and you came to talk shit. Go do some more research kid.
@justified004
@justified004 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't Gil the one saying it would take about 2 years and a haircut for Ja to repair his image. Kenyon is correct. Team USA would not want him as there would still be bad PR surrounding him. Not to mention a risk he could do something dumb in Paris.
@prestonjones1415
@prestonjones1415 3 ай бұрын
Facts he did, but now he has to push the shoe agenda to cover why he got cut/quit his Olympic squad
@badxgrass
@badxgrass 3 ай бұрын
You always watch this pod because you're waiting for the next unhinged take that Gil says. Stats boy that loves moving the goalpost for his narratives. He only raises his voice, he never improves his arguments. hahaha
@jerryhicks8167
@jerryhicks8167 3 ай бұрын
Cuh😂😂😂I feel just like Kmart when mccants talking. Like bruh shut up you gone make my head hurt
@clt-shifty65
@clt-shifty65 3 ай бұрын
"she failed the drug test"😂😂 mccants is hilarious
@TwoFvceJ
@TwoFvceJ 3 ай бұрын
Gil has a habit of only thinking within his mind frame rather than seeing the whole picture. Then try’s to flip arguments in any way he can to try to be right/correct in the end. Glad Kenyon didn’t budge on this topic.
@MagicEmpireTV
@MagicEmpireTV 3 ай бұрын
Not really he’s thinking the way rich people think about money
@G5_Undisputed
@G5_Undisputed 3 ай бұрын
@@MagicEmpireTVnah he is for sure but it’s more than that. Gil got main character syndrome a lot of the time
@MagicEmpireTV
@MagicEmpireTV 3 ай бұрын
@@G5_Undisputed I respect your opinion but at the same time if u think that money doesn’t rule the world who really simple minded nike literally sponsors the teams and it’s biggest athletes of Nike tells all it’s clients u will not play n the Olympics they will not play and the nba teams will back them up because they don’t want more wear and tear on the biggest players they have who I gonna listen to the people who pay your bills or the people who tell u f the money do it for a country that’s still racially divided where you won’t get a fair shot because of the color of your skin let’s be real. I understand Gil be tripping a lot but in every lie there is some truth
@isaiahortiz2721
@isaiahortiz2721 3 ай бұрын
McCants not knowing the difference between weed and a drug that enhances your ability to perform at a higher level is icing on the cake 😭😭
@SupremeGon
@SupremeGon 3 ай бұрын
Tbh he had a great point. Weed is considered a drug no matter how Kenyon or anyone else feel about it. Shacarri failed a drug test and was disqualified. I dont get the issue in what Mccants said.
@TheJAH471
@TheJAH471 3 ай бұрын
Thc and Cbd is two different things. If she smoked the cbd there would have been no issue
@cmoe6134
@cmoe6134 3 ай бұрын
@@SupremeGon💯💯💯
@isaiahortiz2721
@isaiahortiz2721 3 ай бұрын
@@SupremeGon In general good point but Kmart rebuttals his point is on PEDS and mccants noticeably gets stuck 😭😭 it’s just a typical mccants blooper to end off the video
@billydakid601
@billydakid601 3 ай бұрын
Not really especially when they brought up sniffing coke in the same sentence.
@faaflyg6802
@faaflyg6802 3 ай бұрын
“The Shit is fresh” i don’t know why but that shit had me rolling 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@cjkey5515
@cjkey5515 3 ай бұрын
They gonna fuck around and make Kenyon Martin not wanna come back 😂😂😂😊
@LADONDRIC81
@LADONDRIC81 3 ай бұрын
If Ja was on the team or in consideration this would be an argument. But the fact he isn’t, Gil & Rashad just don’t wanna be wrong. And if them two are agreeing then something is HORRIBLY wrong!
@HeartOTC
@HeartOTC 3 ай бұрын
Facts lol
@FSamuels20
@FSamuels20 3 ай бұрын
Even when he was health, team USA didn’t put Ja on the list
@realjoshb
@realjoshb 3 ай бұрын
Gil’s whole argument was “if he played from the beginning of this year…” and he didn’t. So what are we even talking about at this point?!
@FSamuels20
@FSamuels20 3 ай бұрын
@@realjoshb true, Gil was moving the goalpost a lot in this topic
@LADONDRIC81
@LADONDRIC81 3 ай бұрын
Him & Rashad have a bad habit of moving the goal post when they wanna prove “their” point.. Kenyon & Norris the only level headed ones.. Brandon Jennings side with who he “likes” ONLY..
@leanthonyshane7267
@leanthonyshane7267 3 ай бұрын
people really think image doesnt matter is outrageous. No matter how good you are at a thing; your skill does not beat public perception. Especially on the stage that is the Olympics.
@markfindlay3464
@markfindlay3464 3 ай бұрын
FACTS
@adingdingdiiing6740
@adingdingdiiing6740 3 ай бұрын
If you have 3 open spots and you're choosing among 4 great guards, what will be the disqualifying factor? Of course it's the public image. It's not about the skill, they're all skilled, It's not about the sponsors, it's about going to Paris without any baggage or any possible baggage. What some members of the foreign press decide to ask Ja about the incident or his suspension? That's automatically bad press. So to avoid that, just don't include him for now. It's not that complicated.
@dandregood6159
@dandregood6159 3 ай бұрын
It has absolutely not been forgotten. When Ja came back and was balling his celebrations were critiqued and articles were written saying he has not learned a thing. Eyes have been on him even on the bench. It’s fresh enough that he’s been called out for holding up 3 with the thumb, pointer and middle finger (which you would’ve saw dozen of people hold up just like him at the Duke and unc wbb game last night)
@TbellNoTacos
@TbellNoTacos 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Just because they aren't talking about it on sportscenter anymore doesn't mean they not watching and waiting for him to f up again. They definitely forgot about that finger thing.
@fredrickdampeer8269
@fredrickdampeer8269 3 ай бұрын
Gil= constraints of his neighborhood. K-Mart= it's a whole new world outside your neighborhood
@kashifevans9072
@kashifevans9072 3 ай бұрын
"They talkin bout that hummus."😂😂😂😂
@bigseltzer5442
@bigseltzer5442 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 me and my girl were in tears
@jonathanandrade8045
@jonathanandrade8045 3 ай бұрын
Braaahh I heard that shit and started dying 😂😂😂😂😂 For a sec I was like they must have some good hummus over there lmao 😂
@atlanta1290
@atlanta1290 3 ай бұрын
That’s sad
@Benjamin-hp8mw
@Benjamin-hp8mw Ай бұрын
🤣
@apexreacts
@apexreacts 3 ай бұрын
Kmart is right bro. There’s no way Ja checks in the game without them doing a rundown of his last 365 days. It’s gonna come up
@francissmithers952
@francissmithers952 3 ай бұрын
McCants is the example of most people today they wanna believe they own ish but not someone who was literally there and gil got awful quiet
@dapluva1
@dapluva1 3 ай бұрын
Gil got sonned bad 🤣Kenyon is right my dawg it’s ok to be incorrect Gil and you are.💯
@MIA25NYC14
@MIA25NYC14 3 ай бұрын
KMart is correct since Grant Hill stated Draymond Green will not be on this upcoming team. They are looking at players were great image.
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 3 ай бұрын
No, they use that as an excuse on Draymond because he's not good enough anymore and they can use the spot to make money on another guy instead
@Jblaze2k9
@Jblaze2k9 3 ай бұрын
Love the diversity of the crew!!! KEEP COOKING FELLAS
@ronniesnakehissiii9413
@ronniesnakehissiii9413 2 ай бұрын
K-Mart debating like he's running for US President (pre-2016+ ). Gil & everyone else disagreeing debating like their running for HS Class president in whatever the USA's lowest 5 educational states.
@tballtanner8807
@tballtanner8807 3 ай бұрын
I’m 42 it’s funny how all of a sudden since Kobe died and he was a tough player all is forgiven. There was a time he was completely hated outside of LA and all players and fans called him a bad teammate and a r$pist. Go do the research
@tiz12291983
@tiz12291983 3 ай бұрын
Both y’all simple minded is the realest statement made on this show! Kenyon is 100% correct!
@settykabongu5395
@settykabongu5395 3 ай бұрын
It’s amazing that people can’t grasp how image matters for USA at the Olympics
@ifheavenwashuman
@ifheavenwashuman 3 ай бұрын
One could argue that Jrue contributes to winning basketball more than Gil and his entire philosophy.
@bwm5656
@bwm5656 3 ай бұрын
But it would be countered with “Money” talk
@madlak3378
@madlak3378 3 ай бұрын
0% chance that jrue should be on that team shutup lol
@PatriccSellapound372
@PatriccSellapound372 3 ай бұрын
You gotta attack the argument not the person
@ifheavenwashuman
@ifheavenwashuman 3 ай бұрын
@@PatriccSellapound372 His philosophy is part of the argument. He thinks we need a bunch of prolific scorers and rebounders. Why be upset at Jrue being on the team when he's automatically the best perimeter defender, rebounds, guards 1-3 and plays seamlessly off ball. He said Jrue should be replaced by stars. Stars who thrive when the offense revolves around them, and they generally play little to no defense.. especially when they're not in a scoring rhythm. That's a recipe for disaster. Key to building a Championship team is by selecting guys who've made a habit doing the little things.
@PatriccSellapound372
@PatriccSellapound372 3 ай бұрын
@@ifheavenwashuman we never won with a great “team” we won Cuhz we had the greatest players
@Rudeone
@Rudeone 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon needs to break it down into something that they can understand. For example "the Wurk", ask them if they are taking someone like Brittany Renner or super head to a family function. No matter how good they look or "talented" they are it's their image that will prevent them from taking them to meet their mom.
@itsAdamWilliams
@itsAdamWilliams 3 ай бұрын
Gil talking about Brons age like Bird & Magic werent well past their primes by the time the OG Dream Team came along.
@Sgoldensr
@Sgoldensr 3 ай бұрын
The Keyon Martin rant was hilarious!! I was feeling the same way UNK!! They was trippin!! "Simple Minded as a MF!!"🤣😂
@luxloomis
@luxloomis 3 ай бұрын
It is disconcerting that K Mart is the only one who grasps this painfully obvious concept.
@yes-yd6xu
@yes-yd6xu 3 ай бұрын
Kmart is saying the committee knows who’s good enough to represent USA, but if one of those players happens to go off and people from the world look them up and find these charges/accusations, it’s a bad look for us as a country. It’s really that simple
@mictza450
@mictza450 3 ай бұрын
That’s it.
@copacdagod5095
@copacdagod5095 3 ай бұрын
Question: should the guys on the qualifying team feel a certain way for not being on the actual team. And will this cause future problem for guys playing.
@jasmineprewitt9570
@jasmineprewitt9570 3 ай бұрын
Love this shit 🔥🔥🔥
@GoatedRain
@GoatedRain 3 ай бұрын
Last time Jrue played they won. U can tell they dont really watch it
@Sizzle-uj6xl
@Sizzle-uj6xl 3 ай бұрын
Was considered the second best player by the damn committee
@rjc9537
@rjc9537 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon def trynna get fired from the “simple minded” Gilbert Arena Show! 🤣🤣🤣
@hollywoodmarie7976
@hollywoodmarie7976 3 ай бұрын
That "Simple Minded" took me out. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@user-tt9zx5di9c
@user-tt9zx5di9c 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon calling them simple minded was perfect
@SuburbanDude.
@SuburbanDude. 3 ай бұрын
0:47 didn’t they just say about a month ago, that there’s only 2 superstars in the league? Why did I just hear him say “superstar” 15 times?
@troyallen9538
@troyallen9538 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon do not be playin with them 😂😂😂😂
@VisionsSportsTv
@VisionsSportsTv 3 ай бұрын
Yoo at 8:40 Mccants was like yea come on over to the wrong side of the argument 😆
@mofarah90
@mofarah90 3 ай бұрын
kenyon is the oldest, therefore he actually knows what he talkin about. Facts over feelings
@just_to_nice_21
@just_to_nice_21 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon Martin was the only one on a team right?
@Domeo_Divine
@Domeo_Divine 3 ай бұрын
Bro Ja Morant is black…with controversy surrounding his name. They ain’t putting him in the Olympic team bro. This is still America…got to show the world they can keep they 🥷s in line 💯
@1derPuck
@1derPuck 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon Martin is 1,000,000% correct .. the assault case, the friend banned, the pointing of the gun with the laser, the gun in the strip club, the gun in car … he wouldn’t have played 🤣
@user-cy4jt9sz3s
@user-cy4jt9sz3s 3 ай бұрын
At this point Nike would withdraw Ja themselves for the same reason you said he would go : money. The risk of him doing wild shut over there would cost way more than him not showing up his kicks, especially since they already have plenty of them, much more selling and much less risk
@tshokoboi
@tshokoboi 3 ай бұрын
This debate is reflecting American exceptionalism on full display. Nike is not bigger than the US agenda. There’s a certain image America wants to project to the world, and “1 billion dollars from Nike” as Gil puts it ain’t going to compromise that. Even the argument that Ja’s shoes sold out is also simple minded because Nike also plays the politics. They will make money where they can, and they know they won’t get too big for the their britches
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 3 ай бұрын
No, it is US exceptionalism to think looks matters more than money for a country that already every other country hates for going around murdering civilians and committing war crimes
@RobThaBank
@RobThaBank 3 ай бұрын
K Mart was ready to choke ts out Gil 😂😂😂
@Dajuiceman
@Dajuiceman 3 ай бұрын
Am I the only one confused? Image? More like narratives if Kobe can come back from sexual assault accusations then how are we saying an American man having a gun is a detriment to USA…THE USA’s image 😭😭
@cotnumj22
@cotnumj22 3 ай бұрын
This crazy 🤣🤣 an adidas ad popped up on my video as soon as he said “that adidas shit get the fuck on outta here!” 😂😂
@King_JappyJoe
@King_JappyJoe 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon is right and he needs to call these guys simple minded every episode 😂😂😂
@trevey16
@trevey16 3 ай бұрын
But he have him simple minded moments💀
@NoSleep_Tana
@NoSleep_Tana 3 ай бұрын
K- Mart cooked y’all 😂😂😂
@Dpitzle
@Dpitzle 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon's right man, guaranteed it would get brought up by the press if they had Ja on the roster. He hasn't done anything to even remotely redeem himself yet.
@RWor1d
@RWor1d 3 ай бұрын
“Unless he bring his family we can hold off on that too” 😂😂😂 Gil is funny asl
@DV-ou1yu
@DV-ou1yu 3 ай бұрын
Omg I can't believe he said that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@fredible_hulk
@fredible_hulk 3 ай бұрын
Keyon is 100% right
@bstreetpapi
@bstreetpapi 3 ай бұрын
Gil wrong on this one. The Olympics ain't a nba or a Nike event so what check is he talking about, it's a world event.
@xDebts
@xDebts 3 ай бұрын
They would definitely mention that at some point during the Olympics thats exactly doesnt want 😂
@Rk_103ci
@Rk_103ci 2 ай бұрын
Idk how many people been invited to the junior Olympic basketball team but I have when I played and what they say is you are an AMBASSADOR for the USA. Trust me they care about the your image..
@hiimdre321
@hiimdre321 3 ай бұрын
The fact this man just tried to compare weed vs. getting caught doping is absurd. Both will get you cut from the tram but one you just have to retest while other bans
@pacanzachristian2421
@pacanzachristian2421 3 ай бұрын
Brother , if you got caught smoking weed, you're banned in the Olympics bro its a simple matter bro
@hiimdre321
@hiimdre321 3 ай бұрын
@@pacanzachristian2421 suspension there have been several USA athletes who have been suspended and still participated after
@bluewave3417
@bluewave3417 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon is miles ahead of the others on that show. And not just on this one topic.
@pp5518
@pp5518 3 ай бұрын
The problem is they don’t even try to understand or listen
@desiflacco7310
@desiflacco7310 3 ай бұрын
Y’all shoulda put the end of show part in there too .. when Gil said KMart gave him that look n niggas went straight to the phone 😂
@edwynnhouston1461
@edwynnhouston1461 3 ай бұрын
Gilbert and Rashard are lucky they could play basketball. Those guys are slow AF
@rickymiller1460
@rickymiller1460 3 ай бұрын
Bro Kenyon is loud and wrong, for example Justin Gatlin, got caught doping, represented The US, you’re wrong Kenyon
@darriusdupree6595
@darriusdupree6595 3 ай бұрын
Wtf! He was Banned for 8 years smh… that’s 2 Olympics he missed
@ToneRetroGaming
@ToneRetroGaming 3 ай бұрын
This is why this is the best sports podcast in the world. The owner allows his hosts to challenge him passionately. I love how the guys all get their point across when things get hot and everyone stays respectful. I agree with Kenyon on this one.
@usupoalaeluaable
@usupoalaeluaable 3 ай бұрын
This is like not inviting a friend to go out with everyone because they always end up in some shit when they get drunk. So instead of having to POSSIBLY deal with the BS and having to keep an eye out for them at all times, we’ll just not invite them because it’s less stressful.
@christiangonzales8212
@christiangonzales8212 3 ай бұрын
I hope Gil is reading comments also coz it’s gonna help me moving forward
@scanner743
@scanner743 Ай бұрын
No matter who they pick, all good players, but can they play as a team? can they play defense and are they healthy? No injured players and can they shoot and defend two bigs line up like France and Serbia
@Ayo_Itz_JayYooo
@Ayo_Itz_JayYooo 3 ай бұрын
The idea that image doesn't matter has already been proven wrong. Grant Hill... "His contributions have been significant, and he is a real part of the legacy of this organization for his excellence," Hill said Wednesday in a Zoom call. "But I think just in lieu of sort of what's transpired this year, we made a decision to not have [Green] on this list with this particular point in time with the process."
@chrislevi1079
@chrislevi1079 3 ай бұрын
You can tell these dudes don't pay attention to anything outside their bubble and mainstream media. USA basketball still has to comply to the NOC, who's then overseen by the IOC....just like in Track & Field, Gymnastics, etc
@hot407
@hot407 3 ай бұрын
Gil was like im talking about what i want lol
@lekedaboy
@lekedaboy 3 ай бұрын
Did Gil just say the United states pride in their image is 'hypothetical'?🤯🤭
@tr33king8
@tr33king8 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon dont playing around with yall lmaooo 😂
@RichDaPlaymaker
@RichDaPlaymaker 3 ай бұрын
“Are they having secret tryouts”😂
@ericanunda
@ericanunda 3 ай бұрын
Kenyon is the only adult in the room. Suprised the intelligence of global issues is missing. Image is everything. Brand USA
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