Sheed & Bonzi ROAST Draymond Over His Warriors vs. Lakers Take!

Sheed and Bonzi react to Dryamond Green's comments on the 2015 Warriors being better than the 2001 Lakers and are 100% in agreement with Shaq that the 2001 Lakers would dominate them. They both love the competitive fire from Draymond, but think his team would have no chance.
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[@levarmoody6309]

Klay guarding Kobe is the funniest thing I've heard since vegan oxtails

[@AvisBailey]

Facts😂😂😂

[@deontaylor1547]

Nobody.is guarding Kobe! Especially young Kobe!

[@davis2k1234]

Kobe destroyed Klay in 2013 at age 35 not even a hypothetical scenario

[@h1xlockz117]

Y’all missing the point lol they would but Klay on him it’s not necessarily sho it stopping him just about containing him to best of his ability and plus it’s a team effort iggy would also get a look and at times kd

[@andrewchester3527]

So you’d rather eat a real animals ass huh?

[@BigBall78]

Klay had trouble with older Kobe, much less young more athletic Kobe

[@Swankman33]

Thank you for telling me something that you saw with your eyes and not just pulling up a statin read on Google. You are exactly right

[@justincredible8447]

I was watching this video on my TV and had to log into my computer just to leave this comment to say you are 100% right , and I have been saying this for years.

[@haroldbrown6173]

This the comment I was looking for lol

[@LBJisBOULESPORTSANDPOLIT-tl3so]

Klay would have given him problems, Iggy

[@haroldbrown6173]

@@LBJisBOULESPORTSANDPOLIT-tl3so how so ...Kobe been abusing klay... Hell he was tearing his ass up the night he tore his Achilles and Iggy what, not the day Iggy Kobe told 50 tonight lol

[@joshtaylor9884]

Younger fans don't realize that Shaq from his Orlando and LA days wasn't just some big oversized lug. He had speed, agility and athleticism to go with all his size and strength.

[@GFelix-jm4jj]

And the fans today need to realize Dennis Rodman is the same size if not smaller and he held shaq to 0 pts in 96, that was after he literally phil Jackson "nah, IM GUARDING shaq now"

[@GFelix-jm4jj]

Rodman is one of the goat defenders but so is draymond.

[@leebutz4727]

​@@GFelix-jm4jj🗣️Draymond isn't Dennis Rodman! Cut it out!

[@GFelix-jm4jj]

@leebutz4727 draymond is easily, one of the best overall defenders in sports history....... from guarding 7 footers... to 6'2 PGs, and 6'10 Lebron..... stop...... I'm not saying he's better or equal but he easily is right there with dennis. You forget dennis had ABSOLUTE STUDS in front of him making his help defense/rim protection easy. Joe dumars??? Isiah thomas???? Mj? Pippen??? Kobe? Fish?

[@GFelix-jm4jj]

@leebutz4727 dray had klay but don't ever put klay on kobe or dumar or pippens level defensively if draymond can't be on dennis level

[@omarnovela9948]

Rasheed Wallace is one of the most underrated players in NBA history. His knowledge of the game is top notch! His defense and his clutch 3 pointers were killer!

[@garygallant5390]

I was always in awe of Wallace. That Trailblazer team was super athletic. Wallace has to be locked in for hall of fame.

[@stevencoardvenice]

Ball don't lie

[@conchobar]

If Ben Wallace struggled against Shaq, Little Draymond ain't doing nothing but fouling out.

[@JohnDoe-jx4ed]

When Ben struggle ? Lol

[@whh3571]

Yeah struggled right to a ring and into the HOF

[@thegodski5882]

@@JohnDoe-jx4edshaq averaged 27 and 11 on Ben Wallace when they played in the Finals

[@thatboymike1732]

Who guarding KD😂

[@mistanderson]

​@thegodski5882 that's struggling? That was still good. Shaq usually get 30-12

[@praeliator]

People are so quick to forget. Shaq was a monster. If David Robinson and Tim Duncan had trouble with Shaq imagine what he would do to Bogut and Draymond.

[@roncrudup2110]

Facts. Duncan and Robinson were great post defensive players.

[@IamMrImpeccable]

But Dray literally said “No one could guard you” but create defensive scheme to make it difficult for you to get the ball”

[@ericsj805]

​@IamMrImpeccable yeah but other than Green and Klay (both small guys) who else on those teams played "good" defense? I mean come on, let's not act like GS won anything on the defensive end....only thing they scheme is how to get Curry open by running him through multiple screens (a la miller and allen in their day).

[@praeliator]

@@IamMrImpeccable That Robinson and Duncan Spurs team, even on its last legs, is better defensively than any of Draymonds GSW teams. Even with their length those Spurs teams had trouble limiting Shaqs touches. I really cant imagine an undersized GSW team being able to pull it off.

[@IamMrImpeccable]

@@ericsj805 This statement proves yall don’t understand how lethal the Warriors were. They were dominant on BOTH ends. Klay Dray Bogut Iggy they all were defensive players. That’s 1 line up w/ Steph. Klay was 2 way. Iggy won FMVP based on his defensive performance in 2016 against Lebron James.

[@user-fm9vt3vo9n]

No one stopping Diesel. No one stopping Mamba.

[@jonpeterson4309]

Nope but the rest of the laker team the warriors are stopping. That was always their strategy. Let the main guys eat and the rest of the team starves.

[@travesotom6890]

@@jonpeterson4309No way clueless, the Lakers had Fisher, Horry, Fox, Shaw and George all theses guys played defense and could shoot 😂

[@chea7z913]

Kind of reminds me of Luka+Kyrie. Who the heck is going to stop them. And if they come close, they just throw it up for a jam. We could be witnessing history here

[@nathanlawson313]

Yeah, the Pistons didn't get that memo when they curb-stomped them like every other team in '04... Thanks mainly to Ben Wallace and Tayshaun Prince defense: Finals Gm1: Kobe 25pt, 10-27 Shaq 34pt, 13-16 Lakers 75pts Gm2: Kobe 33pt, 14-27 Shaq 29pt, 10-20 Lakers w in OT Gm 3: Kobe 11pt, 4-13 Shaq 14pt, 7-14 Lakers 68pts Lakers 6 shot clock violations Gm 4: Kobe 20pt, 8-25 Shaq 36pt Lakers 80pts Game 5: Kobe 24pt, 7-21 Shaq 20pt, 8reb, 1ast, Ben 18pt, 22reb, 3stl, 1 blk

[@JimPlunkett-ok1pu]

Ben Wallace punked shaq in game 5 2004 finals. He out rebounded shaq 22-8 . Dennis rodman also defended shaq very well.

[@tonyreed912]

Lakers would've pound the warriors into submission. They didn't even mention Rice, fox, Horry, shaw, Grant, harper and other weapons the Lakers had. It was no holes in that team.

[@jcon1980]

And like Sheed was saying everybody knew their roles and they focused on being the best at their role on the team which adding all of them together made the team lethal.

[@JamesEarlBonez]

Oooohh Glen Rice

[@Larry-dq4ig]

And Phil was the superior coach and game planner too.

[@slurmsmackenzie5729]

Sheed is one of those guys I think would be even better if he played in today's game.

[@nikoenciso01]

Yeah alot those dudes would be can you just imagine a rookie Vince Carter in today league 😮

[@user-cr5ts5fl6t]

Pause

[@naturalimmunity7007]

Nobody could stop him

[@LiveOutUrDreams4eva]

He definitely would be

[@johnhenry2903]

Nah, Sheed was so gifted he coulda been the #1 PF all-time playing in HIS era. Only thing that held him from achieving that status was whatever the psychological issue that popped up in the NBA.

[@spitzrealist86]

Shaq looking at him in silence said a lot 😂😂😂😂

[@Smoove91321]

The silence said everything we needed to know

[@TheRamsfan89]

What's understood don't need to be said

[@liquidsnake8417]

Shaq: im not even going to dignify that with a response...

[@jayAndyDaDon]

We talking about a Lakers Team who only lost one game THE WHOLE ENTIRE POSTSEASON. That didn’t happen until the nba finals

[@jjohnson4013]

People forget that 2001 Lakers team was stack you had guys like Fisher Fox Horry Shaw Grant all of them can shot have there own shot move without the ball shoot from three and were good defenders then you have a 22 year old Kobe and a prime Shaq

[@22CMack]

…in OT…after being off for a week lol. That was a rust lost, and barely, at that. Won 4 straight immediately afterwards.

[@22CMack]

@@jjohnson4013 that 01 Team shot the same % from 3 in the playoffs as the 17 Warriors 😂😂

[@wuhanclan]

They were all 50+ win teams too. That team is actually underrated because of how they just steamrolled everyone but it wasn't like they were playing bad teams. Like even the fucking Spurs got swept!

[@jjohnson4013]

@@22CMack there talking about the 2016 Warriors not the 2017

[@casanovalove24]

Nobody could guard Kobe. He cooking the whole team without Shaq. They couldn't even guard Fish.

[@Kobe8DaGreat24]

Fish sticks had them dagger's high arc left smh 💦

[@dthreezy]

I was with you up until the Fisher part lol….. Fisher got his buckets off the gravity that Kobe and Shaq created ….. if the defense keyed in on Fish they could surely stop him , but it doesn’t work like that because he wasn’t like that.

[@thialhoinj1971]

1999-2002 Kobe was barley averaging 23ppg against unheard of defenders shooting 45% lol. We are not talking about 06 Kobe. Warriors have 3 all nba defenders, they will be fine.

[@casanovalove24]

@thialhoinj1971 them warriors faced less aggressive defenders plus soft screens and picks. Kobe was in a whole different era of defense especially cooking the kings, spurs, rockets etc etc. Warriors never faced major defenders except Westbrook when he was on the thunder.

[@slicktom300]

​@@dthreezyI don't think you watched enough laker games

[@ObiKwabKenobi]

Bonzi speaking pure facts. BOTH MJ & Kobe were statistically HELD back by the triangle. It’s a team-focused concept, and makes the ball-hog allegations funny. Casuals expose themselves regularly.

[@ryanr20091]

welll they didnt win the championship without the triangle another dependent variable

[@user-bk8gx3jd7i]

And without it they wouldn’t have won shit. Then you would view them completely differently.

[@Ninjersey1]

@@user-bk8gx3jd7isays who lol they win the same amount without Phil,Jordan was the main reason they were that good the goat

[@user-bk8gx3jd7i]

@@Ninjersey1 they played without Phil, let me know how much they won.

[@B.Piercesports]

They won nothing without it lol

[@SLIDESPOT]

It boggles my mind how this era is so delusional about past eras and past players. Past eras weren’t this stupid talking about Wilt or Kareem.

[@jlui21]

--- personally, all greats in each era would do well in any era -- Steph in 1990s or Shaq in 2020s. Rules will elevate certain players: Sheed, AK47 would be better in 2020s. Derozan might be slightly better in the 90s. Shaq might be a liability in the closing minutes of a close game in the 2020s, but ALSO...a lot of the small ball centers would be in foul trouble and a team may not have enough players to be playing in the closing minutes.

[@user-qz8yx8vg8s]

​@@jlui21Steph would be average in the 90"s.

[@kamilmusalat]

I’ve never heard a champion say he would lose against any team from any era. Was he supposed to say: oh yea we’d lose and I don’t mind….. 😢

[@John6-40]

​@jlui21 I agree 100% with your overall point that some players would be better and some worse in other era's, but they'd all still likely be fairly dominant. I'd adjust your statement by saying that Shaq is the type of player that makes the NBA adjust to HIM. Nobody in this current NBA would slow Shaq at all. These stick figures like Wemby, etc would get tossed aside like a stick house in a hurricane. Teams would start drafting more thick bigs to defend Shaq. Otherwise, he'd average 38 on 70%. Steph is actually one current player I think would be worse. He's small and unathletic. Relies heavily on illegal moving screens and a handle that would be called for traveling in the 90's. He'd still be good, but not MVP caliber imo.

[@KwisBwown]

nobody guardin ma boy Steph he goin for 50 no cap fr

[@majestic2396]

Hearing B talk about how his Arm was asleep for months after fouling Shaq is all you need to know on how much of a Machine the Diesel was 😅

[@sdawg4834]

Robert Horry, Glen Rice, Rick Fox, D Fish, Harper, all smart players which is what Draymond just doesn't understand then you throw Shaq and Kobe in the mix?? Lmao

[@emagik12]

Rasheed and bonzi having ptsd memories about shaq and kobe they know 😆

[@chill4me]

Klay fouling out too 😂😂

[@KingGeeKay]

Facts 😂😂😂 Kobe would kill him with those pump fakes

[@chill4me]

@@KingGeeKay exactly fam 🤣🤣

[@lamar1990lg]

​@@KingGeeKay Pump Fakes? This 01' Kobe he straight attacking Klay on every play possible lol

[@louielou6294]

Man listen he def going to the bench crying and complaining. Steph gonna go off but D Fish 🐟 gonna get in his ass and frustrate him too no Diddy.

[@thialhoinj1971]

Foul out? Warriors have 3 all nba defenders, they would be fine lol. Kobe himself said iggy was best defender. Meanwhile curry, klay, kd would look like wizards shooting 3.

[@rashardstallworth9240]

Shaq, Karl Malone, and Dennis Rodman wouldve beat the snot out of Draymond

[@Rumble225-qe7fy]

Let Draymond act up with Karl. Karl would knock him unconscious with an elbow and lay the ball in and run to other end like nothing happened 😂

[@curiosityredpill7030]

@@Rumble225-qe7fylol and micdice

[@joeymanny]

Draymond wouldnt even survive against zo mourning, antonio davis, anthony mason, dikembe, Juwan howard and horace grant, those are 5-7 inch tallerand 50-70 lbs heavier than dray

[@theonetrueking587]

Don’t forget about Charles Barkley, he would have destroyed Draymond on both sides of the court

[@Rumble225-qe7fy]

@theonetrueking587 Yep Sir Charles although wasn’t known as a good defender he’d give u a big elbow to the chest and knock the air out of u. Rebounded with ferocity that’s why I cringe when these guys on tv comparing Zion to him. Zion lazy as a mfer he rebounds like a damn guard. He better start getting those rebounds if he want that comparison. I like his offensive game he can knock guys around lil bit.

[@CosmicTuxedo]

Kobe was one of the GREATEST two-way players of all time. ELITE level defender.

[@hansmeyer8926]

k8be and shaq. what a time it was to see these 2 players together and i was glad and honored to see them play night in night out 4 a long time. good times. a really special time in basketball history. prime shaq with k8be . and phil jackson. wow that was one highlight after another

[@JoshuaMitchell-bey7]

Thank you Bonzi for having a high basketball IQ. When he said the triangle offense held Kobe back, that is spot on true and same for Michael. The triangle was designed to move the ball and get and open shot. Shows how special Kobe and MJ were.

[@YouTubeIsGood1275]

Yea it held them back from not winning 11 championships 🙄. How many did they win without Phil?

[@therealmikebrown]

Yeah, MJ and Kobe benefit from easy shots too. MJ bought into it more. Compare MJ and Kobe fg%, Kobe could have used some more easy shots. The only thing that held Kobe back was his shot selection.

[@JoshuaMitchell-bey7]

@@KZbinIsGood1275 They also loss with Phil idiot #1

[@JoshuaMitchell-bey7]

@@therealmikebrown Kobe went to 7 NBA finals, he definitely bought into it idiot #2

[@davis2k1234]

@@therealmikebrownPhil said Kobe ran the triangle better then MJ he did what Pippen and MJ did for the bulls

[@Jknessmic]

'Gave my hardest foul AHHHH!' 😂😂😂😂

[@Deuntae704]

Hilarious 😂😂😂

[@user-go8ie2wu4n]

Hehehehehehe😂

[@shawn1819]

Shi had me rollin. Had my headphones on at work. Didnt even see it. Jus heard the audio. Shi had me fkn rollin

[@vinobeans9542]

😂😂😂

[@chicagoopportunity2963]

That part had me rolling 😂😂

[@DRV404]

Thank you guys, love how ppl that can speak can share their thoughts on this matter and tell it like it is.

[@SyteJackson]

He said Klay like that was it🤣🤣🤣

[@grandmarquice3655]

Bonzi ain't lie about Phil Jackson🤣🤣 I was in the noise bleeds back in 2001 seen the Lakers play.. it was Afro Kobe.. Phil was whistling loud AF🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MrNumbers446]

Bonzi recalling how Phil jACKSON would whistle is hysterical..i remember him doing that all the time

[@stevencoardvenice]

Phil had a high a$$

[@jasonmarshall7547]

Another thing: so glad more former athletes are getting their own platforms. Their insights are more believable than what ESPN is doling out. Seriously, Wilbon, Stephen A., and Windhorst?? They have played and coached the same amount of NBA games as I have.

[@beesong2450]

That "ahhhhhh" came from the deepest part of bonzi's soul 🤣

[@rashardstallworth9240]

Shaq would have broke Draymond in half

[@1Flyingfist]

Did he break Rodman in half? 😏. Shaq would get in foul trouble himself. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@kwill4107]

@@1FlyingfistDraymond no Rodman lol no disrespect to Draymond

[@1Flyingfist]

@@kwill4107 😏

[@rhyno8644]

​@@1FlyingfistYour whole team is weaker and completely undersized.

[@jpcoqueran]

​@@1FlyingfistRodman was a fkin madman Draymond is nothing of the like

[@vindigga6]

Im glad sheed fucking said it, i was trying to tell some young cats i work with. Theres a reason the position is called POWER forward. The PFs now are called 'stretch 4s' meaning they aint beating you up on the block. Theyre staying outside and launching 3s. The league was more physical back then.

[@moneymoney3235]

It’s funny Cause young Lebron dominated chauncy, sheed, and rip. 25 straight points on they ass.

[@hansmransm8835]

​@@moneymoney3235 That's not dominating

[@vindigga6]

@@moneymoney3235 thats one player (lebron) and the only power forward you mentioned was sheed and sheeds not a big physical power forward. Hes more of a stretch 4 if anything. I swear you lebron fans turn everything into that. No one said the pistons would beat up lebron and he couldnt handle it. Hes saying power forwards back then were enforcers: mason, oakley, barkley, karl malone. All big guys that were gonna touch you up.

[@Nebphetira]

Lebron dominated Flip Saunders Pistons without Ben Wallace, not Larry Brown’s Pistons.

[@MrMex44]

Do you ever think there’s a reason why there’s not many dominant big guys anymore? Game is different. Big dominant players that can’t get around the floor could hurt teams. Joker and Embiid are amazing but you have to respect them shooting 3s and passing. No one can compare eras though. There’s a reason why there’s an emergence of 3 point shooting. In many ways it’s more efficient. I’m a believer in Shaq being underrated and is worthy of goat debates. Prime Shaq wasn’t sexy but 35 points, 15 rebounds on 65% fg percentage in the 3 finals they won….thats insane. Kobe was sexy but Shaq was the reason for the first 3 rings.

[@jaydupont6499]

KOBE !!!!!! No one could guard him. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🏀🏀🏀

[@hamilton3971]

That Phil Jackson impersonation is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Ksmoove39]

Nobody f*ckin with Kobe

[@J-Hue]

Kobe averaged 41% shooting over 6 Finals appearances. The right defense can definitely get to Kobe.

[@B1Kobe0824]

Nope

[@B1Kobe0824]

​@@J-Hue people like you always look at numbers and it shows you didn't watch the games and didn't see the circumstances behind those numbers. Kobe wasn't like say a Lebron that worried about stats. He gave 110% and played to win. When he felt his teammates were lacking he went up to take the shots that were often difficult that they wouldn't take. But he made them when it counted. Kobe is the reason why people say, "KOBE!!!" when they go to shoot a shot. You really think he couldn't shoot and make shots when it mattered? And you based that off of a sheet that says 41%??? 😂 Y'all young folks is crazy out here. 😂 Go watch some Kobe highlight reels and tell me how Kobe could be stopped because of 41% shooting LOL. The "Kobe Stopper" thought the same way (*In Charlie Murphy's voice - "Wrong!!!". 😂😂😂

[@edwardcoward1062]

​@B1Kobe0824 I watched the games and the stats support what I saw. Kobe was inefficient. His team wouldn't need shots when they count if he had simply shot decently when it didn't. Dave Chapelle is why people yell Kobe when they shoot. 41% isn't good. If fg% is irrelevant, then feel free to name another top 20 or 30 player who never reached 47%. Kobe shooting tons of shots is great for the defense.

[@solidsnake8331]

Kobe aint messing with KD

[@alonzolincoln8745]

klay can't guard kobe period

[@chrisrobinson2180]

8 or 24

[@kevinconroy6606]

Talk to em! Klay was getting cooked by vino Kobe playing on an Achillies that was about to pop!!!! 01-03 Kobe would terrorize that entire backcourt and have Iggy in foul trouble

[@RonnySwank]

But kobe said iggy was the best defender in the league . They could’ve thrown both of them at Kobe and gave him SOME problems

[@darren49]

Kobe shot 36% when Rip Hamilton guarded him

[@dash4800]

But kobe could 100% stop Klay in his tracks. He would average lik 10 it's on 30% shooting vs kobe

[@kmod73]

Draymond Green is today's tough guy.....nuff said😂

[@user-zg8ht7kc9u]

There is no defense to stop Shaq during that 4 year run. The man was allowed to beat everyone's ass during the game. He would break your bones if you got near him. Shaq was unstoppable.

[@johancorrales6537]

Kobe wasn’t even in his prime when he played with Shaq

[@lewisalba7825]

He was better than klay by a long shot tho 😅and curry so ...

[@johancorrales6537]

@@lewisalba7825 I agree

[@unc54]

@@lewisalba7825 You expose yourself if you think Kobe was significantly better than Curry

[@relicdad88]

​@@unc54he was way better even if he was having bad shooting night. I played with a dude jus like curry Kobe more effort = better sry I think curry way overrated he really shouldn't be classified as point guard

[@antoni.guzman]

@@unc54u smoking rocks if u think curry was ever better than any version of kobe that man couldn’t even get open on Matthew dellvadova what he gonna go with Kobe guarding him and he definitely ain’t guarding Kobe 😂😂

[@scottmayle1955]

04 pistons were ballin too

[@Dxydrm]

Sheed mentioned the matchup and I never thought of it before. Steph, Klay, KD, Draymond, Looney vs Chauncey, Rip, Tayshaun, Sheed, and Ben actually favors the Pistons and that’s wild to think of.

[@akilishepherd3904]

How?

[@akilishepherd3904]

They scored 80 points max bro lol the warriors scoring the shit out of it

[@thialhoinj1971]

​@@Dxydrm curry, kd, klay would look like magicians against the pistons lol. 3s is more than 2s, kd warriors made lebron and kyrie cavs look garbage. Only lost 1 game in the playoffs.

[@mordakie3805]

@@akilishepherd3904 warriors would have toasted the pistons lol

[@alonzoburns4289]

Excellent illustrations about the reality of being physically imposing.

[@rayspruce1]

"The KOBE situation" is WIIIILD AF❗🧏🏾‍♂️😆😂

[@2H2521]

Draymond Green is such a fool, so tired of that guy. 🙄

[@MaximusR93]

Talking about fronting Shaq. wtf lol

[@MaximusR93]

And on top of that, FIGHTING Shaq, what a delusional dude

[@jimgegegegegegegege2306]

I just skip the part when he talks on tnt, hope they wont bring him back 🤮

[@J_Dub25]

@@jimgegegegegegegege2306racist much

[@Sldumas1983]

@@MaximusR93😂🤣 he must be smoking Angel Dust

[@shawnwilliam1802]

Sabonis used to take Shaq outside & shoots jumpers. He’s better than Dray. Rasheed took Shaq outside, he’s better offensively than Dray. Portland had Bonzi, Ruben, Pippen & Steve Smith guarding Kobe & it STILL wasn’t enough. Not to mention if you double Shaq with a PF you’re leaving Big Shot Bob open. Or D Fish or Glen Rice. Lakers in 5

[@joshido7352]

Lakers counting twos and while the warriors counting threes. If it’s the KD warriors, I will take them in 6. Shaq and Kobe can get there 30 each, where are there other 40-60 points coming from? Are they running the triangle eating the entire shot clock? I would put shaq in a high pick and roll every time down the court with Curry or KD As the ball handler.

[@dougiewise]

Joshido,you clueless kid,you know nothing about basketball,Guarantee you less than 25 years old,let the grown ups speak on reality kid and just listen and stfu

[@veoshock3792]

​@@joshido7352 Lakers had Rick Fox (can get nearly 15 to 20 any night), J.R Rider (nearly 15 to 20 any night) and Glen Rice (nearly 15 to 20 any night). Horry and Fisher are good for double digits to. Not to mention Shaq or Kobe can go 40 plus any night as well. Those Lakers' teams were force to be reckon with.

[@joshido7352]

@@veoshock3792 nostalgia is a hell of a drug Rick Fox averaged 6 points a game during his playoff career, Isaiah rider averaged 7 points in that season with Lakers and did not see the court for the entire playoffs. Glen Rice, sure maybe, but you gotta a pick between the 2000 Lakers and the 01 Lakers then. You want a better Kobe? Or 17 a game from Rice? Horry and Dfish gotta match what Iggy Livingston, and David West bring offensively and defensively. That Warriors team is the best NBA team ever bro there was a reason why people were calling KD a snake. There has never been a team that we unanimously knew before the season even began, was gonna take the chip, except that team.

[@terricarter9435]

​@joshido7352 your looking at it primitively just saying oh 3s better than 2s you will eventually die by 3 if that's your only form of offense like Shaq said they would allow curry nem a few drives to the rim to get put on they ass by him then you turn into a 1 dimensional jumpshooting team who can't stop Kobe or Shaq from getting theirs

[@ProphSZN]

Sheed is right in the sense that teams with no in between game struggle in at times. Majority of the game winners been from midrange this postseason for a reason. It’s less predictable and it’s harder to guard the entire halfcourt rather than just the paint and 3

[@ghostpeachweed]

Didn't know yall had a pod- 2 of my favorite players- thumbs up

[@865style]

Draymond really thinks he can do something with shaq lol. Draymond couldn't even play as a power foward in the 90's. Green couldn't do any with malone, Duncan, barkley, webber, kemp.

[@michaelpowell9152]

Like Sheed said, Draymond would foul out in the first quarter 😂😂 trying to play physical/tough

[@xl8751]

I would love to see draymond try to talk that shit to Barkley or Oakley. They ain’t gobert and Jordan Poole.

[@J_Dub25]

Did he say that no he didn’t putting words in his mouth

[@shootthejay7002]

Bro draymond would not get away with all this nut kicking, Frenchman choking, dirty playing shit because Jermaine O’Neal or the others would’ve folded him a long time ago

[@LordBranniganThe]

You have serious comprehension problems

[@865style]

If green is guarding shaq he's fouling out. If klay guards kobe he's fouling out.

[@thialhoinj1971]

Kobe would average 25, shooting 45%, iggy guarding him. meanwhile curry, kley, kd would look like magicians making 3s all night with ease.

[@Kobe8DaGreat24]

😂

[@Kobe8DaGreat24]

🧢 they getting locked up Kobe would never sit and watch his guys get shot down ​@@thialhoinj1971

[@sikharbahadurswar2756]

If dray guarding Shaq, he's dying.

[@troysteadman3183]

BBQ CHICKEN ALL DAY LONG

[@old-school2196]

💯💯💯 sheed...... new players don't try to get to the line or drive the ball when their jumpers is not hitting

[@RobbieEhrbar]

Rasheed Wallace lives in Durham, N.C., now. He drives a white Ford Bronco with a custom IMNOTOJ license plate. Legend!

[@paulbishop2373]

There aren't enough people who mention Rick Fox at small forward. He was a 20 ppg 2 time all star that came over and became an elite role player. He could get 20 points at any time. Those teams once they settled in and Shaq for in peak shape were truly great and such a small team like GSW would find it impossible over 7 games.

[@WestcountyWill]

You must be out of your mind saying Rick Fox was 20ppg player. No the F. he wasn't.

[@nickkiley8918]

@@WestcountyWill had a couple of years around 15ppg

[@MrEliasdl]

That's the thing nobody gets. Horry and Fox were stars that played as elite role players. EVERYTIME you slept on them they delivered. Then you had guys like Harper and Shaw coming off the bench who were bonafide elite role players. D Fish was also money as a young gun.

[@Akira9212]

In them days, you had defensive specialist like Bruce Bowen. Them guys spend all their energy on defense and locking people down and even them dudes couldn't stop Kobe, imagine Klay. And Dray ain't even going to be playing cause he's gonna get 6 fouls guarding Diesel. Some of the best bigs tried and failed, he said he gonna put Bogut? mannnnnnnnnnnn

[@vicshephard9231]

Bogut will get the same thing Mutumbo got.

[@Kobe8DaGreat24]

Bogus Bogut 😂

[@chicagoopportunity2963]

Bruh said "my forearm was tingling for months....AAAAH....my forearm dead"..... 😂😂😂😂 that had to be one of the funniest sequences I've heard all year. 😂😂😂😂

[@doomzday777]

draymond won't even be playing on those eras. people giving him so much credit. he just piggybacked on curry's shooting.

[@bodonald]

So glad someone is finally spitting facts about the current NBA players vs the 90’s and 2000 players.

[@kennetholiven5195]

Kobe would kill klay disrespectful

[@raulsalazar6362]

Lakers and Blazers Series were amazing to watch!

[@mrmaxxx94]

Shaq looking at draymond green like a bucket of KFC half off

[@barry6768]

Draymond is the most expensive backpack in history. He ain’t good. He ain’t a hall of faker. If Orlando drafted Draymond he’d been outta the league after a few

[@2H2521]

@barry6768 Totally agree, he’s a fool. Should’ve never been an All-Star either.

[@gimpscalawag]

Truf

[@adgee5401]

He wasn’t drafted there. Steph don’t win rings or MVP’s without Draymond. I know most of y’all only look at one side of the floor, but the Steph Curry on defense was Draymond. With that said, he’s full of shit about this topic.

[@dantheman8152]

He is annoying but only a "fan" would say he is not good. He is an elite basketball player. Cant make to the NBA without being good. "Fans" dont have a clue.....

[@nikoenciso01]

😂 he a bum

[@victorh4984]

Dre woulda been some tasty bbq chicken… also back then you didn’t automatically get ejected for “hard fouls” when driving the lane or “accidental” elbows to the face while in the post.

[@kevinconroy6606]

Bro one elbow on a drop step and Draymond would go home work on his perimeter skills lol 6’11” 270lb Scot Pollard from them old Kings teams used to be on the locker room postgame with purple knotted up bruises on his chest from trying to get in front the Diesel

[@stevencoardvenice]

BBQ CHICKEN ALERT BBQ CHICKEN ALERT 🎉🎉🎉😂

[@jimmoore8951]

Love them talking about AC Greens defense. "Young 36"- no drink no smoke no sex does that for you

[@EdwinUrbina]

He said AC Green is locking Klay up lmao

[@12stnumbers95]

The Kobe Gasol Lakers with Ron Artest beating the Warriors without KD

[@Phoenix-nl2ut]

Yes. Meta wouldve locked down kd

[@bhjayy9384]

@@Phoenix-nl2ut no tf he not cut ts out lmao

[@Phoenix-nl2ut]

@@bhjayy9384 ok Devon George would’ve locked kd down.

[@bhjayy9384]

@@Phoenix-nl2ut lmao you bsn

[@Phoenix-nl2ut]

@@bhjayy9384 do you want Robert horry to guard kd and put Kobe on curry?

[@erinspoonster570]

I love all the PFs that Sheed listed, big shouldered and rock hard elbows. They would send modern PFs to the hospital.

[@chandleryen7315]

Bonzi Wells is one of those forgotten players that was really nice with it. He's like a KCP type player where he'd be assigned to your star wing player and give solid defense, but be a good off ball 3rd/4th option. Difference is he didn't get picked up by another contender after the Blazers disbanded and he had a sweet middy compared to KCP's catch and shoot ability.

[@alvin081988]

The theory of Draymond makes sense but he forgot Kobe Horry Fisher and the bench of the Lakers are deep

[@TheNiggyStardust]

They had to change the structural integrity of the backboard due to Shaq. No one from Golden State could have handled him in the paint. Then there’s Kobe, Horry, DFish…They Not Like Us

[@winning77th]

warriors dust off the lakers and im a kobe stan

[@jordanflores5687]

​@@winning77th they better hit every 3 they take cuz they're getting nothing inside

[@winning77th]

@@jordanflores5687 3 count more than 2, curry was on the bench the entire 4th qtr

[@jordanflores5687]

@@winning77th like I said they better hit every 3 they take cuz they're getting nothing inside and they're getting no offensive rebounds and what was the warriors weakness during those title runs???? Their rebounding and size

[@LUMBEEPHENOM2012]

Horry & D Fish ain’t do a thing to Klay come on.

[@zakiyhoward2622]

Rasheed gave compliments to AC Green and his versatility but he couldn’t guard Rasheed in the post in the ‘00 conference finals. We all knew Rasheed could and did what he wanted against AC Green. The ‘Sheed in Portland was cold!

[@PurpleImpactStrategies]

Does not mean it was easy

[@alejandrorojas2253]

Yes but A.c was washed out by then...80s a.c was big time

[@frankiek2691]

Klay used to be one of the best 2-way players in the league. His lateral movement has slowed A LOT since his injuries.. But the Klay that scored 37 points in one quarter (current record holder, btw), was a killer.

[@mrpostman533]

Glen Rice was a great shooter to

[@unplugdsessions8684]

folks forget how good Rice was before coming to the LAKERS. They were stacked

[@slicktom300]

Glen and Mitch Richmond was coming off the bench in those laker days

[@mrpostman533]

@@slicktom300 Glen Rice was actually a starter and was the 3rd scoring option.

[@selfawarepotassium]

I don’t even think Draymond’s kick in the balls defence is working on Shaq.

[@jairus.]

Sheed basically saying after you played the Lakers have the ice ready

[@rho008]

Anyone can talk about defensive scheme, but Draymond is basically a SF in Shaq's era. Shaq is big, quick, fast, and very physical. Every bump to the chest, it's like being hit with a haymaker. And im not even talking about the elbows when Shaq spins.

[@BarryMemphis]

Thats what i recognized aswell lately. Spot on what Sheed said. If you look at the NBA today, you get the impression that there are a bunch of college kids playing pick up. Back then you got a picture of grown ass men playing the game. It simply felt and looked different

[@younglove3362]

I see enhanced talent. Everyone so good that it looks condeluded. The players back then were not as athletic, fast, or developed as today. Especially with shooting the three ball. Stop ✋️

[@Swankman33]

​@@younglove3362the Lakers had plenty of three-point shooters. I get what you were saying though. But I play against more athletically gifted and skilled players all the time at the Y and they lose. I actually understand how to play the game and I can manipulate the game. They are just out there firing shots off. Size definitely matters as well. Rebounds control the game. This is just a bad matchup for the warriors. It's like Mayweather versus Tyson

[@johnhenry2903]

@@younglove3362 Young fella, don't confuse being allowed to take two steps before the ball hits the deck from a triple threat position, taking 3-4 steps on layups & being allowed to initiate contact without penalty while defenders can't touch them with increased athleticism. Rules & officiating dictate everything you see in ALL pro sports. Case in point many of the guys that look slow & awkward (via today's lens) in the 50's & 60's were actually multi-sport circus freaks athletically that guys today couldn't hold a torch to. Secondly, don't confuse being both allowed & encourage to jack-up 3's as being more developed or skilled. Top guys in todays era are generally elite in only 2 areas which is role player status in most of the previous generations of NBA ball.

[@yeelahowah7476]

@@younglove3362 Todays game is painfully slow, you need to actually watch games and get a realistic idea of what an "athlete" is. Robert Pack would be the 3rd most athletic PG in todays game, you kids are wild

[@BarryMemphis]

@@younglove3362 as you see, my friend, there are a bunch of people who exactly see what i see when looking at todays game. And i know what iam talking about, been with Basketball since the late 80s. I saw the development. Regarding my statement...the point was, that, as Sheed said, todays players would get mauled on the court because they are a bunch of run around, skinny Jeans wearing, dyed hair rockin' little dudes who wanna smile and be famous all day. Kids with no grown men attitude to the game. Of course they are somehow more athletic, the game however suffered a great deal. As i said before, its an impression i at least get when looking at them. Its Pick Up ball by College kids. (Doesnt apply to everyone of course, but in general i think)

[@PharaohsNews]

That Warriors team never handled physicality or size well. They were so good and then teams copied them instead of trying to do something differently.

[@thialhoinj1971]

It's too bad no 2000s team never even seen anyone shoot like kd warriors lol. They would think they were playing against aliens.

[@PharaohsNews]

@@thialhoinj1971 It’s too bad the sport isn’t a three point shootout.

[@thialhoinj1971]

@@PharaohsNews it's not soccer, it's basketball and 3 points are part of the game.

[@PharaohsNews]

@@thialhoinj1971 exactly, they’re a part of the game and not the entire game. That’s the same point I just made. Good job.

[@ronito346]

Hated Kob when he was a kid.. Rooted for Bonzi.. Kob gained your respect every playoffs..

[@bdub4899]

Man respect to both Sheed and Bonzi Dray don’t know any better😂😂

[@CovertGhoul]

Shaq, Kobe, Glen Rice, Ron Harper, A.C. Green, Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, Tyronn Lue, Rick Fox and Brian Shaw versus Dray, Steph, Klay, Durant, Iggy, Quinn Cook, Nick Young, Patrick McCaw, Shaun Livingston, Bell and Zaza Pachulia

[@thialhoinj1971]

When rice, harper are your 3rd best players, you're not beating warriors.

[@sikharbahadurswar2756]

Of course not. Nick Van Exel would've cooked your warriors!

[@Mark-xr6qr]

Wrong players buddy there would not be a quin cook more GP are ya wit me

[@travesotom6890]

@@thialhoinj1971Wrong, Rice and Harper were not the Lakers 3rd and 4th best players, that was Horry and Fox who would of lit up the Warriors, Lakers in 5 easily 😂😆

[@Cream-2128]

@@travesotom6890rice was the 3rd best player he was a damn all star. Fox and Horry came off the bench the first year. Glen Rice averaged 27 in the league he was a legit 3rd option.

[@michaelpowell9152]

You can tell Draymond doesn’t believe what he is saying about trying to defend Shaq 😂 he talking about if he gets thrown out the game & Shaq as well, which team would be better off 😂😂

[@Mark-xr6qr]

That's called basketball IQ

[@giowrld3boss308]

This is gold bro 🔥🔥🔥 them blazers teams were no joke in the Early 2000’s . Definitely a tough match up for my lakers back in them days 💪🏽💪🏽

[@ballinallday]

SHEED TAKE AT 7:55 IS SO TRUE.💯💯💯. WHAT HAS HAPPEN TO THE MID RANGE GAME. I PLAYED AGAINST THAT UNC TEAM WHEN SHEED AND JERRY AND JEFF WERE FRESHMAN.

[@buffaloalex1]

They played defense when Shaq and Kobe played. Steph would get maybe 3 three pointers on Kobe. The Mamba would’ve locked him down. 💪💪💪.

[@LUMBEEPHENOM2012]

😂😂😂 they would’ve thought curry was a wizard 20 years ago with his ranged.

[@DaggerMan11]

@@LUMBEEPHENOM2012 Exactly. Early 2000s defenses were NOT equipped to guard in space like modern defenses have to.

[@LUMBEEPHENOM2012]

@@DaggerMan11 exactly

[@bunduman18]

@@DaggerMan11 smfh u were probably born in early 2000's lol

[@bunduman18]

@@LUMBEEPHENOM2012 yea and the coach will bench him for shooting from the logo.

[@jameskelly6347]

He said I gave him a hard foul aaaah 😂

[@nitro_1986]

So I guess Pistons winning 2004 finals over Lakers back in the day never happened.

[@aaronfarr6782]

Keep Bonzi on this show permanently!!!

[@Darthramp]

How Draymond made it this long in the league is unbelievable!

[@videogames9829]

Funny enough, while he's one of the reasons golden state won, he's also the reason why they fell apart towards the latter end. Ran KD out of town, and shattered the team chemistry by punching jordan poole. Double edged sword as a player.

[@fredericoterrell5160]

Because he's in this ERA

[@sikharbahadurswar2756]

Backpack for 30

[@slicktom300]

I been saying this for 10 years

[@doublen7737]

I doubt hed make the All-Stars on the average team where you don`t get to shine playing with Steph.

[@Lex-up6mg]

Shaq made 2 time champion HOF player David Robinson look like easy work.

[@DJHyeFXOfficial]

So refreshing to hear logical NBA takes!

[@naturalimmunity7007]

The 2000 Blazers team that Shaq and Kobe beat with Sheed as the face of it was the most talented roster ever. GS wouldn't have stood a chance

[@crharper25]

That Blazers squad literally had 2 starting lineups on it.

[@naturalimmunity7007]

@@crharper25 three! Go back and look. I have never seen anything like it

[@crharper25]

@@naturalimmunity7007 yea the league definitely robbed them.

[@RonnySwank]

So that blazers team is better than 2017 warriors 😂😂😂 y’all are CRAZY dickriders

[@J_Dub25]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnkeros9109]

GSW's 3-shooting would've had open looks every possession via high screens with Shaq not hustling to the line.

[@lewisalba7825]

Shaq would foul half their team out or have 40 at half tho lol

[@Minimaldrag]

No team hits 100 % of their threes lol. You forget that that Laker team had floor spacers too, Fox, Horry, Kobe, Fisher, Shaw and you have to double Shaq which opens up shots for them.

[@25mL]

You’re right, but they can feed the big man and he’d go for 50 or more. GSW goes cold on the 3 line and it’s lights out. GSW has no solution for Shaq.

[@priztucker]

Thanks for this comment. People act as if Lakers gonna beat GSW 100 zip. GS system was no joke. You would have to let Shaq live and wait till the 4th and hack a Shaq his ass. Let’s not forget about that plus Kobe gonna be running around behind Steph getting tired cause D Fish gonna need help. Warriors definitely have a chance cause they play full court. Lakers are a half court set every time down.

[@thialhoinj1971]

Obviously we're not talking about kd warriors, they would destroy any team with 3s. They would look like magicians to teams before 2010s.

[@Bork19]

Before the defensive rule changes in 2001-2002 I believe it was illegal to double team until they got the ball so it wasn’t often that somebody played in front of and behind until their 3rd title. I recall many times before the rule change that there would be a good pump fake into the post for Shaq and the double team would come before he got the ball and the whistle would blow for an illegal defense tech. Pre injury Klay was legit defensively, iggy was phenomenal as well so those would be the best options on Kobe. Regardless of game plan Shaq and Kobe would score, you just want to make it as difficult as possible and try to make them use extra energy on defense. Keep somebody on Horry at all times in the 4th and try to force fisher, fox, walker and George to beat you (or other players depending on year.) I would love to watch this imaginary series though, entertaining for sure.

[@NBAfast-breakPODCAST]

That’s why I love ya Sheed, I got ya Portland 30 hung up in my room man!

[@TonyStarks1986]

I feel the Lakers would beat any warriors team but the KD team would be difficult.

[@j-us-t_be-in-g]

KD is not trying to get into the paint and he won't with Shaq there. KD is shooting nothing but jumpers basically. The Lakers had the personnel to keep KD on the perimeter.

[@MaximusR93]

@@j-us-t_be-in-g Any of those Lakers teams win in six or less, the Warriors would’ve been so physically depleted they would’ve ran out of gas.

[@killzone1878]

How difficult it was for James Harden to push them to a game 7-stop this nonsense

[@TonyStarks1986]

@@killzone1878 not sure what that has to do with anything…..

[@killzone1878]

@@TonyStarks1986 can you read slow one

[@user-os8zb5sw9f]

So Sheed and Bonzi saying the Warriors had no chance… BUT their Blazer team that took the Lakers to game 7 and blew a 15 point lead in the 4th! Warriors definitely have a better chance than the Blazers had. Don’t underestimate MENTAL TOUGHNESS

[@LUMBEEPHENOM2012]

THANK YOU!!! Ever since Kobe passed they make him seem like an Immortal God that never missed and average 50 😂

[@treyvonjackson9293]

Y’all sound dumb and I get the recency bias… but google and KZbin is your friend…. It’s nothing and I mean nothing klay could do with prime Kobe… the guy that went 9 straight games with 40 or better the guy that out scored Dallas through 3 quarters the guy that scored 81 the guy that hit 12 threes in a game in 03 and took the tough matchup on the other end… Stop

[@FR0Z0NEkeys]

In 1999-00 sure. The 2000-01 team SWEPT them as well as the WEST!!!

[@KoTM25681]

Do you even know how deep that Blazers team was? We're talking about a roster of Rasheed Wallace, Scottie Pippen, Steve Smith, Detlef Schrempf, Brian Grant, Arvydas Sabonis, Shawn Kemp, Rod Strickland, Dale Davis, Damon Stoudamire, Bonzi Wells, Greg Anthony and Stacey Augmon. That's at least one of the top 3 deepest rosters in NBA history and they couldn't take down Shaq and Kobe. Those little cup cake Warriors would get pimp slapped against that team.

[@hc2777]

​@@KoTM25681Exactly, these guys just look at the numbers and say but but but it took 7 games, yeah and they lost sooo ok now what lol

[@crashoverride23]

When Draymond said he'd guard shaq the first thought Shaq had was barbecued chicken.

[@JamesEarlBonez]

Shaq was a 7ft Silver Back with the agility and feet of a ballerina. In his Prime unstoppable last 3peat he was mvp all 3 finals. Kobe knew he would never be what he became with Shaq there

[@naturalimmunity7007]

Draymond is a well dressed Carl Herrera

[@adgee5401]

Prime Draymond was an elite defender.

[@naturalimmunity7007]

@@adgee5401 so was Herrera

[@factsandstats80]

Yo.... Carl "Amigo " Herrera catching a stray 😳🙄😂🤣 damn hold on man.... Herrera was hell for the rockets #7

[@scandelez]

Am I trippin or do I specifically remember Rasheed saying on this platform that every time he played the lakers he felt that his team had a chance to win. With the blazers and the pistons. So why is that another person says that he thinks they have a chance against the lakers and now all the sudden sheed sayin they’re smokin something?? Make it make sense OG

[@RonnySwank]

Lol these old heads be sayin anything

[@anthonyandrade512]

His pistons actually beat the lakers in the finals that’s the difference

[@PurpleImpactStrategies]

Bc those blazers teams were better than these teams today. N the pistons teams ..are u serious? You must be 15 years old

[@genemcintyre2761]

Cats forgot Drodman was guarding Shaq. Check the film 96. You tube got all the film 😂😂😂

[@mikec1510]

I like everything Sheed and Bonzi said except when he said 36 year old AC Green can hold Klay. Klay gonna hit 10+ threes if that happened

[@thebarbarshop1550]

Draymond has lost his mind 😳

[@pkway9394]

Shaq on the offensive glass would be unstoppable. Let alone everything else he brings. Kobe takes Steph (doesn’t shut him down makes him less efficient). Other than KD the warriors really have no other advantage And here’s why the rules don’t matter. Old school rules there’s a lot more handchecking. New rules…. Who’s keeping young Kobe out the paint….? Shaq gets doubled, horry in the corner…. Kobe has his way in the midrange and driving without hand checking…. We say “oh MJ would average 40 with these rules” SO WOULD KOBE 😂😂

[@marcel3942]

Kobe and Shaq didn't have hand checking for most of their career

[@younglove3362]

Jordan and Shaq would foul out before scoring 40. Stop ✋️. PS, Steph cooking 🍳 Fisher and spreading the floor. Shaq protecting the paint 🎨 is a liability. And him not making free-throws really hurts their chances. Kobe is their only on ball defender. Everyone else getting cooked 🍳.

[@darkmasage]

@@younglove3362how old are you kuz you don’t know what you’re talking about

[@younglove3362]

@darkmasage Old enough to not be stuck in the past and not be bias. Also old enough to not assume and sound predictable like every other stuck in Nostalgia casual that barely knows basketball.

[@darkmasage]

@@younglove3362 clearly your the casual my guy