CLASSIC DOCTOR WHO | The Monster Of Peladon - Part 2 | REACTION

[@silverspike1]

"Oh bloody Hell, not the pit again!" LOL

[@CRINOTH]

I hear that Ortron is shortly going on tour as a Hepesh tribute act - once all the lockdown restrictions are lifted, of course... ;)

[@TheZodiacz]

Thalira's handmaiden, the woman in purple, is played by director Lennie Mayne's wife, Frances Pidgeon. She appears in a later story also directed by her husband. It happened a few times that family got bit roles in Who~oh the nepotism. LOL.

[@benbastianiartmusic1421]

I think Peladon is one of the most believable worlds they ever created in the Whoniverse - I'll be interested to see if you prefer Curse of Monster by the time you finish this one!

[@ftumschk]

6:32 "The INNNERdoor has been opened!"... as opposed to the "AGGEdoor", I presume.

[@alexfletcher5192]

33 years later, Martha Jones would burn the Tenth Doctor with a remark about how he was taking her to all the same places as he'd taken Rose (in this case, New Earth), so it's interesting to see Pertwee's Doctor dragging the young Sarah Jane off to an old haunt. And, from a modern fan's perspective, I suspect Liz Sladen's relative youth in these episodes really hits home how long this franchise has been operating.

[@coltonbrantley9713]

This Story Is Real Famous For The Quote That Sarah Jane Smith Said To The Queen Of Peladon That Girls Can Do Anything They Want And Keep Up The Good Work As Always Marie-Clare,Lord Colton Of Gallifrey

[@philippaine2169]

Great reaction as always glad your enjoying it 😀

[@johng5859]

It's interesting how, despite having been part of the Federation for 50 years, Peladon hasn't really changed at all, for all King Peladon's hopes. Superstition is still rife, and the priests and politicians are still more powerful than the monarch - at least the Queen does show a bit of spunk here, but she still tends towards the weak-willed end of the personality spectrum, like her father. I was slightly surprised you think Eckersley is fit - it must be that shiny leathery outfit he's wearing! The name is very Yorkshire, though the accent is not. Donald Gee, who plays him, was previously in The Space Pirates, and there are a couple more notable returning guest actors. Rex Robinson, playing the head badger, was the scientist Tyler in The Three Doctors, and Ralph Watson, the hot-headed badger, was Captain Knight in The Web of Fear.

[@johng5859]

The Noisy Spectator There have been some superficial changes, I grant you, but the structure of Peladon society has not changed fundamentally, when you might have expected more of a shift after 50 years of Federation membership. However, I think you hit the nail on the head when you point out that changing things too much would have forced the story to embrace a whole new dynamic that would not have felt very "Peladon", and would probably have diluted too many of the elements that made the first story appeal to viewers, which is not what the production team wanted.

[@whobp8]

Eckersley is played by Donald Gee, who was previously in The Space Pirates with Patrick Troughton. Gebek, the miner who isn't an asshole, is played by Rex Robinson, who was previously Dr Tyler in The Three Doctors and Ettis, the miner who is an asshole, is played by Ralph Watson who previously looked a lot more dishy as Captain Knight in The Web of Fear.

[@AubreySciFi]

Yes, I agree with you that Technician Eckersley is a suspicious dude. I wouldn't trust him either. And I suspected him of being up to something shady when I first saw this story. (Obviously I won't confirm or deny if I was right, as that would be spoilery.) It's nice to see Alpha Centauri again. The only character other than the Doctor (and Aggedor), who was in both Peladon stories.

[@paulkennedy8701]

Aren't you forgetting someone?

[@AubreySciFi]

@@paulkennedy8701 Oops! Yes, poor Aggedor who's stuck in the pit. Hehe true, Aggedor was in both too.

[@paulkennedy8701]

@@AubreySciFi I've just realised both Peladon stories feature 3 actors who return to Doctor Who in the 21st century. (2 of them as the same character.)

[@paulkennedy8701]

@@TheNoiseySpectator All of your questions are answered by the end of the story. If you've seen the story before it would seem you have forgotten.

[@stephensinclair3771]

Hi. Hope you are doing good, enjoying this. Cant remember big bits of this...most scary thing is the miners hair.

[@tombaxter6228]

It IS a strong look, though....

[@stephensinclair3771]

@@tombaxter6228 very true Tom, very true lol.

[@stephensinclair3771]

@@TheNoiseySpectator nicely reasoned.

[@alexfletcher5192]

Yes, there's the obvious reason why Dr Who keeps coming back to Miners at this time: they were in the news. On 28th February 1974 (less than a month before this story began broadcasting), Prime Minister Edward Heath laid his last card on the table and called a General Election. His administration had started with high hopes of Britain solving its economic ills through membership of the European Economic Community (which we joined on 1st January 1973) but instead had found itself bogged down in continual confrontations with the National Union of Mineworkers and the demands for higher pay (a situation compounded by the recession now sweeping Europe in the aftermath of the oil-producing Arab states - OPEC - cutting production in retaliation for the west's support of Israel in the Yom Kippur War). The upshot was black-outs and disruption, which the government sought to offset by introducing restrictions, ranging from early close-downs on TV (which probably explains why I'm here!) to a three day working week. It mattered little. But if you want to know the result, it's worth watching to the end...

[@stephensinclair3771]

Interesting. I remember bits of this. Thank you for the informative comments.

[@AubreySciFi]

You really should listen to "The Prisoner of Peladon" at some point. Its a Big Finish audio story that takes place in between these two Peladon TV stories. It stars David Troughton as King Peladon and gives fans a look at what he got up to 30 years apx after the Doctor first met him in "Curse". It's good fun.

[@brettb.345]

Why would anyone thumbs down this?

[@kemmdog4444]

It’s the old “pay no attention to that man behind the curtain” trick.

[@mikeoxmaul3449]

Brilliant as always

[@evandavid2816]

Considering how the poor critter's treated, it looks like Peladon needs a Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Aggedors, yes...?!

[@Jamienomore]

The nearest I have came to being stuck in a mine, was an ex-Girlfriend. She saw everything as 'MINE'.

[@alexfletcher5192]

Many actors have had to adapt their accents or voices to fit the demands of work (I seem to recall Ysanne Churchman on an afternoon programme when I was young, briefly talking about Alpha Centauri, with a clip from this story) and even the likes of Rex Robinson (born in Derbyshire) and Elizabeth Sladen (a Liverpudlian by birth) at least had to fit into 'BBC English' for certain parts. However Donald Gee (Eckersley) must have been pretty glad not to be landed with something like the transatlantic drawl he had to adopt as Major Ian Warne in 'The Space Pirates' - it's not as if the Americans even watch the show...

[@toddbeilby6484]

Oh no not the pit!! 😂😂😂😂 Who’s behind the screen...MC investigates! 😊 lovely as always 💕

[@tombaxter6228]

I have a soft spot for Alpha Centauri. I freely admit to punching the air, at his/her cameo in New Who. It's one of those ridiculous/iconic parts of classic Who....

[@toddbeilby6484]

Tom Baxter, yes lovely cameo, Alpha Centauri and Sarah together are the best

[@mark-s]

I like this story as it's a lot of political rules and lol alpha centuari shrills when Sarah was attacked or about to be hit with a sword I'd love it if you did a live chat this weekend too

[@MarieClaresWorld]

I can't this weekend but maybe next :)

[@mark-s]

@@MarieClaresWorld nice one hopefully next Sunday would be great

[@duralinium1]

v relevant story to the situation at the time, striking miners

[@peterdrewer2574]

If Agador is an irate fashion critic call Captain Jack to manage with outrageous style... 😎

[@chrisbrooker7260]

Why do the Peladon miners wear badgers on their heads?

[@IG7799-c4u]

Why is every high priest on this planet so close minded? xD. Ortron is literally Hepesh 2.0.

[@AaronIzzard]

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[@joshbostock_2040]

#justiceforagador And yeah this one dosnt need to be a six parter could easily be 4 and cut some scenes out

[@Phil_Hill]

I can only assume they wanted to get more use out of the costume and sets as it’s always more expensive making these sets rather than use existing locations on Earth.

[@paulkennedy8701]

There wouldn't be many costumes to reuse, apart from Alpha Centauri and Aggedor. Maybe some bits of guard costumes. None of the sets would have been kept.

[@jeanlafayette7152]

@@paulkennedy8701 Making it a 6-parter rather than a 4-parter meant they got more use out of the costumes and sets.

[@paulkennedy8701]

​@@jeanlafayette7152 I think Phil was speculating about why the show returned to Peladon, after Marie-Claire said "I'm really shocked we're back here."

[@jeanlafayette7152]

@@paulkennedy8701 Could be, but Marie-Claire did also comment on its being a 6-parter, and budgetary reasons were part of why they had so many of those in the Pertwee era.

[@paulkennedy8701]

@@jeanlafayette7152 Yes, I know. I relistened to what she said at the beginning (about the setting) and the end (about the number of episodes). I must have read the original comment as "more use" = "further use" / "another use" rather than "greater use" / "longer use", but it could be either. I wonder. Would there be a negative correlation between length and perceived quality of Pertwee stories? And how aware are we of which are 4 and which are 6? The ones that I'm sure are 4 would be some of the best-regarded-"The Time Warrior", "The Three Doctors", "Terror of the Autons", "Spearhead from Space". However, so many of the others I'm just not sure of; the longer ones don't register as different from-or more special than-the shorter ones. Which would make the longer ones drag. (I think I'm right that "Colony in Space" and "The Mutants" are 6. ("Colony" has some lovely actors; I might like it better if it were shorter.) On the other hand, the T Baker 6-ep stories are different. For the first time-in fact _only_ time in 20th-C Doctor Who-we get season finales, and the longer duration is part of that. (At the same time, they give up much of the economy of scale by being constructed as 2+4 or 4+2. So new sets and new costumes are needed when we move from Antarctica to the Home Counties, when the focus changes from Li Hsen Chang to Magnus Greel, and when the Sontarans take over from the Vardans.)

[@bananasaregood8655]

Spoiler marie claire!! Do not read my comment... Who else recons she will think the doctor will regenerate at the end of this story? After he puts himself in a coma because of the alarm system??😜😂