I spent decades worrying until I came closer and closer to Christ and realized I don't need to worry. I didn't realize this early in life but I guess better late than never.
@EmbracingTeReoMaori6 жыл бұрын
In another video the first male talks about categories etc, this video he talks about A and B etc, he is very logical - I like how Uncle Cliff has such an open mind that he listened to where he was coming from and actually tried to understand his approach.
@alienpick14 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is Lord 👑🙏Maranatha
@GraftedOliveBranch3 жыл бұрын
Praise JESUS the KING of kings and LORD of lords. 🔯🌿🐑🦁🕊♥🕎🗡🛡
@godislove3635 жыл бұрын
NOT 15 MILLION YEARS AGO CLIFFE, IT WAS 6000 YEARS AGO.
@chrisreid60565 ай бұрын
I understand your reasoning and I don't consider it crucial to salvation, however it's clear from context that Genesis 1 is ancient Hebrew poetry, written in parallels written to explain who (and a little of why) created the universe. It in no way tries to chronologically describe the age, or process in which it was done. There is no science in the bible, that's why we turn to scientists to find out the process
@codeblood20006 жыл бұрын
Amen
@somerandom76726 жыл бұрын
'If I could change pigeons over a few years, Imagine what could happen over millions of years' Well, this is the thing with evolution - it needs billions of years. It needs _that_ much room to make it sound even feasible. Talk about the God of the gaps when your god of time (Chronos) isn't just a gap but an unimaginably-large chasm, dotted a few times here and there with depictions of different animals (which are held together by the glue of suppositions). Spiders are pretty much exactly the same as they were long before we were supposedly otter-like creatures... but your birds developed (within the species - just like humans are different while still the same) within a few short years. The theory works against itself in so many ways. Time poses problems to the idea more than it supports it. It's laughable how people believe the most ridiculous story ever taken seriously, just because living organisms can adapt and scientists have placed a few skeletons and pictures of similar animals together... Maybe I should draw an image-set of humans gradually evolving from flying spaghetti monsters. Perhaps they would believe that too.
@fishjj76 Жыл бұрын
Evolution is accepted science. It is supported by vast branches of science. The DNA record itself confirms evolution, but that record also supports the archaeological fossil record, taxonomy, geology palaeontology, dendrochronology, primatology, and many other areas of science. The idea that the blind marsupial mole, the flightless kiwi, and the platypus were able to walk from Turkey across continents and oceans, leaving no trace of their existence ANYWHERE else in the world, to arrive in Australia and New Zealand. All this whist avoiding the Malaysian tiger and other predators along the way. THAT IS A FANTASY. THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
@onestepaway32326 жыл бұрын
Hilarious . This is how micros organisms evolve? Which is what? First how do you create a organism naturally from nothing? So many unfounded assumptions
@170221dn6 жыл бұрын
I know, and how do you create an omnipotent god from nothing?
@alexaylopez83136 жыл бұрын
170221dn we did not created him, he States he's ETERNAL(:
@170221dn6 жыл бұрын
Alexay Lopez "170221dn we did not created him, he States he's ETERNAL(: " HE says he is eternal? Can we question him? I was actually just pointing out the folly of the first posters statement. He puts on an act of having high standards of evidence and questinoing science, and then...... He decides to believe the myths of some bronze aged goat herders. WITH NO EVIDENCE. LOL.
@onestepaway32326 жыл бұрын
Alexay Lopez yes, God’s nature is that of eternal.
@COMPNOR6 ай бұрын
@@170221dnif you think God was created, then who created God? And then who created that creator, and who created that creator [ad infinitum]. God was not created. He is eternal, the uncaused cause. And the truth of the Old Testament and New Testament are not the machinations of "Bronze Age goat herders." I suggest you read the Bible and find out for yourself what it actually contains, instead of being a mindless troll who just believes the first things you find on a 5 second Google search.
@wesleydickens92836 жыл бұрын
needs to be able to justify induction
@fishjj76 Жыл бұрын
RELIGIOUS THINKING RULES. 1. "Everything has a cause" EXCEPT GOD. 2. "Life cannot come from non-life" UNLESS GOD DID IT. 3. "Science can't explain everything" THEREFORE YOU MUST BELIEVE IN MAGIC WITHOUT EVIDENCE WHICH EXPLAINS NOTHING.
@boltrooktwo Жыл бұрын
The alternative to intelligent design and trustworthy senses is accident from blind random chance. You instead must believe, because you don’t know, everything comes from magic without purpose as pure accident. It takes more faith and irrational thinking for the alternatives without evidence and breaks down human thought and ability to communicate, it’s very regressive. Unless you find a more intelligence source for rationality and design with more evidence you will only be able to deconstruct and do harm.
@JohnjOcampo Жыл бұрын
You believe life comes from non life, that in itself is a miracle.. Look at you, all of a sudden believing in magic without even noticing lol. Hypocritical cowards.
@COMPNOR6 ай бұрын
Atheist thinking rules: 1) All morality is subjective and utilitarianism is the best approach to solving all problems (except moral relativism means there's no objective right and wrong, so do as you please as long as you're not worried about getting caught). 2) "Science," has an answer for everything, and science disproves God! (No it doesn't. Modern science and its practices was started by Christians who were seeking to understand the mechanisms by which God designed Creation). 3) God is racist / sexist / misogynistic / homophonic / genocidal / a slaver! (No he's not. God abhors sin, not sinners. "Slavery," is not confined by God, nor is God a misogynist considering some of the best heroes of the Bible are females; Rahab, Ruth, Judith, Esther, Mary). 4) All life is a cosmic accident and we're here purely by chance! (We are not the products of luck; you don't get order from chaos and you don't get reason from no reason. If everything is an accident with no purpose driving its creation, then life is meaningless and atheism answers this with despair and nihilism. Despair and nihilism are abhorrent and self defeating).
@fishjj766 ай бұрын
@NeonDemon88 EVERYTHING I SAID IS STILL CORRECT. But I'll give you some corrections. 1. I'm a secular humanist, NOT a utilitarian. Secular humanism provides a far better way to approach moral problems than ANY religion. Secular himanism's primary concern is about the well-being of human beings instead of appeasing a god or gods. 2. Science does not answer everything and never claims to. It does show that biblical creationism is wrong. 3. The god of the bible is pro-genocide, pro- slavery, sexist, racist, and homophobic. Any objective reading of the bible would agree. I suggest you actually read the Bible cover to cover, and you'll see. 4. More religious people are nihilists than atheists, and it's easy to understand why. If you view this life as merely being a test to pass before gaining entry into an eternal afterlife, then ultimately, nothing matters outside of conforming to arbitrary rules, which different denominations can't agree on anyway. Even then rapists, child molesters (in abundance), murderers etc. merely have to ask god for forgiveness to retain entry into heaven. As an atheist, I value highly the ONE life we agree that human beings get. My actions have an effect on people around me and future generations to come. Humans evolved as a social species and continue to live as a social species. That is where you morality and mine comes from. But if the only reason you're not a thief, rapist, or murderer is that you believe God is keeping a moral inventory on you, then keep going to church. But your morality is very shallow. I stand by everything in my initial post, and nothing you've said disagrees with it. I hope you have a little more education now about where I'm coming from. Have a good day. Ben.
@Viod753Ай бұрын
1. God doesn't have a cause because he doesn't begin. For something to have a cause it has to begin. God never began and God therefore God doesn't have a cause. 2. Well, yeah! God is obviously A LIFE so yeah. 3. If there is a God supernatural things are totally possible.
@rovert466 жыл бұрын
Goodness, everyones an expert nowadays. Except Cliffe isn't a biologist and doesn't grasp the complexity of Evolution, which BTW is scientific fact, not philosophy. I also doubt his knowledge extends to abiogenesis or quantum mechanics-who's does?- so why doesn't he just say, I dont know?
@rovert466 жыл бұрын
Gaz Roberts maybe not a part of evolution, Idk, but I don’t plug gaps in my knowledge with god assertions, that’s just wilful ignorance.
@rovert466 жыл бұрын
Gaz Roberts hi again Gaz. What is your evidence? Presumptuous I know but I don’t think we’ll agree on what constitutes proof of god. If we look to Facts presented to us by science, however, we can see abundant evidence for Evolution, a heliocentric solar system and an old universe...all of which debunk biblical teachings. T’would be folly indeed to deny them.
@rovert466 жыл бұрын
I dont have any expertise in science or biology etc, but I would urge you to read up on the evolution of simple cells and abiogenesis, its a lot more convincing than biblical parables of golem like creation etc. Furthermore, surely you're just replacing any gaps in our knowledge with god, and calling it evidence? Can you give me specific evidence for god, creator? We all know there is none, that why religions have faith. The bible describes the earth in a firmament, under a dome of stars, unmoving and geocentric. Incorrect of course, and not very worthy of an omniscient being. Good to have a friendly debate....Peace.
@rovert466 жыл бұрын
Yes it does, genesis ch1. Firmament. Calls it...right there. In the midst of the waters, ridiculous isn't it? Again, you give no evidence. I would definitely ponder any evidence given, but so far there's nothing. The cosmo whatnot argument is NOT evidence....you know that, so you're tap dancing. "...it will point to god. Or a creator at least. Topple the argument above or believe in a creator." I can point to the stars, it doesn't prove anything. So, its god...or a creator?? Bit vague suddenly, Gaz. OK, I'll go with Nature, the Creator. Smiley Face.
@rovert466 жыл бұрын
The cosmo argument has been sufficiently challenged so I dont need to...its a logical fallacy of circular reasoning which offers no Evidence. You're pointing again!! Okay, I'm not wading through the gud book to find references to poor ideas about astronomy, but Firmament?? Still believe in that gem? Its certainly not a heliocentric system. Genesis again: wrong so wrong. Was this written by Moses? So some old guy claiming divine inspiration channeling god....and you guys believe it. As ever, Peace.
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt4 жыл бұрын
The big bang and the bible are opposites and dont make sense together
@AeroZeppelin-rb4pt4 жыл бұрын
Evolutionism and the bible are opposites aswell and cannot coexist
@fishjj76 Жыл бұрын
Big bang cosmology and evolution are both established science. Many theists accept both as being correct. You are either dishonest or deluded to reject both.
@COMPNOR6 ай бұрын
@@fishjj76Darwinian Evolution is not scientific fact; there is no evidence to support it as being factually true. In fact, Darwinian Evolution is being discarded by the scientific and intelligentsia communities wholesale.
@bonnie43uk6 жыл бұрын
I have to correct Cliffe when he says 'evolution as an origin is not science'. Nobody who studies evolution is saying that. Evolution explains how life diversifies once life had already begun. The origins of life are currently unknown from a scientific point of view. It's one of life's many mysteries we have yet to unlock.
@MoveLegacies6 жыл бұрын
How would one ever be able to show scientifically how life comes from none-life? There's no way it can be done... It would be a miracle which is something only God could perform.
@drew2fast4896 жыл бұрын
Evolution is a philosophy.
@mikeramos916 жыл бұрын
Yes, the origins of life are unknown from a scientific point of view. But when life began, It's not scientific to say evolution began. You cannot go back in time, recreated what happened & test it. All you can do is look at the evidence & make an interpretation. That's why Cliffe said it's a philosophy, because you can't have life select itself from non-life.
@bonnie43uk6 жыл бұрын
@MoveLegacies: I'm not so sure that showing how life can come from non life will never be done, never say never, we don't know what future generations may discover. I'm sure that people living a few thousand years ago would imagine that man walking on the moon would be impossible.
@bonnie43uk6 жыл бұрын
@drew2fast. I beg to differ drew, people who work in biology and other scientific branches of evolution would strongly disagree with you.
@dperkins012 жыл бұрын
Shout something false and then shout over everyone like that thing is true. Cliffe is dishonest.
@godwithus10062 жыл бұрын
God loves you ❤️ I love you too, Darnell Perkins
@godwithus10062 жыл бұрын
Christ loves you too, accept Him and live eternally. HE promises to save your soul and bring you out from sin, into mercy and grace
@godwithus10062 жыл бұрын
The Holy Spirit of God will be put in you and you will reap blessings and have a friend through thr hardships of life. Amen.
@dperkins012 жыл бұрын
@@godwithus1006 Christ means to anoint/anointed one. There was so many christ whom do you mean. Read The God delusion, Creating Christ David Fitzgerald God is not great Christopher Hitchins or Sam Harris, Robert Price Or anything to challenge what you so blindly believe. Cliffe just asserts things he can't possibly know. I know you believe I did too, and the truth hurts. How can a mere man know gods character? Cliffe loses every debate with real grownups, I have watched him.