23 Classic | Former WORLD RECORD | Corrupted Forest NEW!!! | GWYF | Consistent Strats

[@GizzyGG]

This is a WR using REALLY consistent strategies. The riskiest strategy on this run is the 1st shot on hole 8. 23 is definitely beatable. I think using consistent strategies, there are a few improvements I would make: - Hole 3: You can get it in 2. It should be really consistent but I've only tried once. I did 2.5 power bouncing of to the left about where the metal pole meets the wall. - Hole 5: 2nd shot is obviously possible to get it in. I've not looked at the 2nd shot much. - Hole 6: 2nd shot can go into the hole. Again, I haven't looked much into 2nd shots (I search with reset from start) but I found that 2.2 bouncing of the back wall seems to be a viable strat. Obviously it will depend on where you end up on the final platform. - Hole 8: Thats the most consistent strat I got. Should have been a hole in 3. It is possible to get a 2 that way too. So i think thats at least a 4 shot consistent improvement that you can make which brings it down to sub 20. Good luck on your hunt

[@Bowie_YT]

Nice

[@GizzyGG]

I have since gotten 18. I am hoping to get it down a bit more as the strats I missed are doable

[@santiagoreyes1635]

Gizzy you really struggled with that sentence at 3:19 lmao

[@Ghostzapper]

Good luck chasing the 11 or whatever ridiculous number this course ends up being. I know you keep up with a lot of people related to GWYF still, and I was wondering if you've ever talked with Tammaro? His guide on the new course is... lacking plausible deniability. Wouldn't mind you taking a look and letting me know what you think the way forward is.

[@GizzyGG]

We think 9 is possible but it is too grindy. Instead we are trying to get 15/16 with consistent strats. we are at 17/18 at the moment. Not sure what you mean. But I can guess. I have seen UntilTammaro's video already and it's pretty hard to say that he found that hole 4 shot which is identical to you. It's a crazy shot, especially when there is a much easier 2 possible. I didn't see anything else dodgy as all the shots he has done, I have already seen. Obviously, there is hole 9 which is likely copied, but it's also possible he found it. We didn't search for a different method as someone already had shown us one. If you'd like me to look into something, just ask.

[@Ghostzapper]

@@GizzyGG There are just zero shots that are different. ~19 Straight. None of them individually are anything special whatsoever.. As they were meant to be easily replicate-able for par-breaking. Literally could have been 15 of the same ones without raising an eyebrow. But like you pointed out with Hole 1. Hole 4 being the exact same is bizarre, with all the possibilities for a safe 2. It's the identical nature on the few open ended holes that have my panties twisted. You know how it is, people borrowing shots you spend hours on. It's usually just smaller channels adding something to the shots they found themselves. So while a little messed up, kinda no harm, no foul. But dude aped my entire video, did he not? Am I wildin'?

[@GizzyGG]

​@@Ghostzapper Here's my summary hole by hole Hole 1 - is the crazy bit. It's such a basic idea. Like they didn't even go for the simple 3 that way. Hole 2 - Meh. It's an easy strat to find. Hole 3 - Its not too unlikely that the strat is found. We looked at it but found 2 easier strats. Hole 4 - So unlikely to find the exact same shot. Hole 5 - Its fairly obvious too. & it's really the only consistent and easy shot. It wasn't the first strat I used, but I did find it on my 2nd run through.* Hole 6 - FP for the first shot and then nearly 3 for the 2nd shot is so crazy to me. Similar problem with hole 1. Hole 7 - It's the only sensible shot. Hole 8 - I could imagine he's copied your hole 8, but it's kinda the obvious shot again for the safe route. Hole 9 - It is findable, but it is the type of shot that seems odd when he's done that for 1, 4, and 6. *This course is really one dimensional in strat finding. It feels like there is only 1 best strat that works on each hole. Therefore, we are all likely to find the same shots. He may have stolen all your strats, but it's more likely he had most of them, and then took your hole 4 and maybe your hole 9. It's tricky and I understand how you feel. I've had someone literally steal my video before. Downloaded the video and reuploaded lol. Also EpicK910 used all the strats I used (and showed him) in his Forest 18 and that now has 1.5 million views.

[@Ghostzapper]

@@GizzyGG I understand your hesitance to definitively state it, cause only 1 person actually knows. I was hoping to get a heat check from you specifically because we flatly don't see things the same way. But. Too many of the same things were said in the same way to make me want to give the benefit of the doubt. So, on top of every shot being the same.. And obviously I understand that it's all easy stuff, with limited routes. It's too damning. I gotta call it out. It's not Imbo making the same 6 guides I made, the same day, in the same order, a couple hours after each. It's someone who is my size and also a KZbin Partner. It's a different ball game. I was hoping maybe you had had contact with him before, so it could be mediated or something. But I don't wanna sit on my hands for this one. -- And yeah, I remember that Forest 18, where he looked at a guide/reference during the 'run' for Hole 12, lol. There was just a long period of nothing happening. But even that has the wiggle room of being the run and not the guide, and therefore "not the same". I had an 18 up by that time that didn't pop, either. Sadge. -- Everybody's just allergic to giving credit. And sadly that's how youtube is, doesn't matter the content.

[@GizzyGG]

@@Ghostzapper Don't get me wrong, this is definitely a coin toss. No one would blame you for siding either way. See hole 4 was enough to lean to the full guilty side XD. I don't believe I have ever spoken to him. I've spoken to pretty much everyone else in the game. As with my point above, I don't blame you for calling him out. Hole 4 is enough for a shout out from any channel. Difference with the 18 though is epic admitted it all the time. I'm not sure if it does anymore, but it used to say so in the description too. I wish all my videos would pop, but I know I don't deserve it. Unlike you, I gave up as I couldn't be bothered to put in the effort and missed out. Nowadays I just upload single hole videos mostly as its easier XD I think calling them out, especially when they are getting views instead of you (my channel is dead so i dont care XD), is the right thing to do. But do it privately first and see what he says. Everyone I know would back you up on this.