STARTING as a FALLEN EMPIRE in Stellaris

[@grottoguru6473]

It's kind of fitting that there was a second empire that came before everyone else and you don't like them. It mirrors how a pair of fallen empires can hate eachother in normal games.

[@eggmin8967]

Yeah so basically the first war in heaven that made them fallen

[@Kevin3dp]

Wanted to play as fallen empire. Ended up becoming a precursor event.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Genius!

[@themement3616]

Like Baol or the Zronii?

[@Mardols]

This comment made me laugh so hard xD

[@MrBlipman]

It means he got wiped out lol@@themement3616

[@skankhunt9078]

Looool how did undie

[@Stargate404]

It’s pretty appropriate you had the Prikki rise up as the War in Heaven was partially between a fanatic purifier empire and a guardian empire. So in a way, you’re recreating the war in heaven

[@alexparjol786]

I can feel the 40k coming inside of me.⚡⚡

[@farresalt4381]

@@alexparjol786 lewd

[@n8ivspat3n56]

@@alexparjol786heresy

[@plaguedoctor5145]

So would he be the old ones and the aeldari or the C'tan and the necrons? I assume the old ones tbh

[@phasesaber5040]

@@plaguedoctor5145 guess so since the old ones came first

[@StarboyXL9]

Reminds me of one of my Dark-Elves-in-space playthroughs. The Scourge was too powerful for me and the galaxy, but I had a completely isolated, starless star system that I Jumped into and built a habitat in. I moved my capital there last minute, along with my final Shroud Avatar to act as a sort of moon for the habitat to provide light. My Dark Elves then waited in the darkness between the stars for two hundred years until they were strong enough to rebuild their armada with better technology and take the galaxy back from the Scourge, system by system, over another two hundred years of war. Then I spent the next two hundred years watching the next generation of primitives discover the hyperdrive, join the Galactic Community, and fill the galaxy with life again. It was such an awesome campaign.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Man that sounds epic! I am also impressed that you managed to play for that long because war in Stellaris can seriously burn me out.

[@StarboyXL9]

The coolness of restoring my old, lost empire territory by pushing back the Scourge kept me going, the 200 years of waiting were easy. I just left the game running with tech on auto overnight and while I was at work. The galaxy-cleaning effort was tough yes, but I pushed through it because I knew the primitives were depending on me to give them a chance. It was definitely a campaign for the scrapbook.

[@redomer91]

How were there primitives after the scourge held the galaxy for so long? Don’t they just kill everything?

[@Gabriel-bt1nx]

​@@redomer91after the Rain, the rainbow appears my friend

[@StarboyXL9]

@@redomer91 They don't touch primatives for some odd reason. You would think they'd eat every planet, but apparently not. They only invade the worlds of spacefaring civs. Very strange. They didn't used to be that way tho, I clearly remember primitives getting eaten by the Scourge regularly back around 2.0.

[@mynames_iris]

i like the idea of the prikki guardians taking down the contingency in honor of the people who helped them see the light.

[@cringelord7776]

Declaring war on the prikkikiti makes sense because fallen empires will declare war on an empire if they are too genocidal

[@d3thkn1ghtmcgee74]

"im not going to intervene in galactic affairs" Prikki: "Lets introduce ourselves"

[@DzinkyDzink]

Come to think of it this looks like a more plausible scenario than usual Stellaris run: 1. Challenged by the dread of the galaxy's emptiness one species chose to become it's gardener another became paranoid with the Dark Forest idea to the point of embracing genocide. 2. Those two species go to war with each other and the good guys win. 3. Dark Forest proves to be true as Contingency activates right after a sufficiently advanced species becomes more active than usual. 4. The galaxy is reset to default by the Contingency - all is right with the universe.

[@killman369547]

I think "existential threats to the galaxy" is a fair exception to the cannot declare wars rule.

[@kottadragon]

Honestly, you probably could've kept the Prikki Guardians as a vassal, destroyed a bunch of the outer outposts instead of handing them over, and treated them like a Scion Empire. Would've even been thematic, since you just had a big war to prevent the cleansing of the galaxy.

[@shatteredanam3284]

Fantastic content as always May bubbles live on in our memories

[@unknowndane4754]

Lovely to see you do a more challenge like run (Also attacking the Prikki is completely valid for the purpose of your run)

[@unknowndane4754]

For the Prikki Guardians, I would probably have attempted to make more sectors (if possible) and then make multiple nations rather than 1 large one.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

That’s a really good idea. I’m actually surprised I didn’t come up with that myself.

[@unknowndane4754]

@@TheWolfwiththeDragon if you want to fiddle with sectors remember that sectors only connection if the systems are connected so by destroying a few starbases you can control the size of a sector/vassal

[@logannoble6707]

@@unknowndane4754you realise theres a edit sector button where you can choose which systems and planets are in each sector

[@lucasiano4290]

The most underrated stellaris youtuber is back

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

That is a seriously nice compliment!

[@skeletalobserver406]

Tech/unity rush for mega engineering would be a godsend for a second attempt at this run. Would love to see that

[@davidthor4405]

"The Finnish names sound ancient." - The Wolf with the Dragon, 2023

[@Nerd_Detective]

Variation: select the Remnant origin for flavor. Delay the crisis starts to give the foundlings a chance to grow. Spawn in *one* advanced start genocidal empire (guarantee it to spawn) as your nemesis somewhere in the galaxy. Your goal is not to destroy them, but rather to thwart their plans. Your role: to shepherd as many primitives as you can before the galaxy is swallowed up by threats, then recede and only involve yourself in galactic affairs as needed when an urgent threat presents itself. No subjugation or vassalization or conquest, no blocking them in, etc. You enlighten each civilization, pull away to give them room to grow, and hope this generation of children will be able to face the threats that loom over them. And if not... only then do you step in to even the field.

[@captshetz]

Sounds like Vorlons vs Shadows from Babylon 5.

[@pwryllryn7220]

this is so funny that out of all the events in this massive game, the prikkiki-ti spawned.

[@noxiousox]

This video was so cool, definitely a goal to edit a stellaris video to at least half of this quality! Maybe next time, you could have the crisis year start way later to allow yourself to have more of that fallen empire scariness! Loved the viddy!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you so much for your kind words! Yes, that is a good idea. Thank you for watching!

[@FireDragon-rr2mo]

​@@TheWolfwiththeDragon if you want to do a true fallen empire install zenith of fallen and sandbox and when u get the edict you can become a fallen empire.also love ur content❤.

[@src6339]

I think a precurser war against your ideological nemesis would be reflective of the "war in heaven" in the lore, so should be allowed.

[@thealdoc]

sith the scaleless looking race trying to protect the galaxy from a bunch of geckos made me smile

[@exoltik3199]

Really glad the algorithm's started blessing you. Love this content. ❤

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! Yeah, I really hope it might stick despite my very slow momentum. Happy you enjoy it!

[@Tom_Cruise_Missile]

Gigastructural engineering penrose sphere start is my favorite pseudo-fallen empire start. It can be a bit difficult, yes, but when you reach that end point, dear god is it worth it.

[@stoneodin2288]

I’m glad I found this video. I’ve been really wanting to do a play through like this but haven’t been able to find much on it. So this video is exactly what I needed.

[@synthetic240]

I think I would've done a few things differently with the Prikki. I would've released each sector as its own nation and disbanded all the extra outposts. Granted, the main Prikki homeworld would've had the majority of their pops compared to the second nation, but I think I'd prefer they have a bit more competition. Alternatively, you could've brought ALL the Prikki to your worlds, abandoned their space to the actual primitives and reformed them that way (via Governing Ethics attraction). It probably would've been a bit tricky with habitability issues, but it might've worked.

[@isaacgorski6054]

And that last scientist found a way to escape this dimension. Becoming a legendary paragon of Bubbles. He will return to destroy the Contingency for their crimes

[@isaacgorski6054]

You convinced me to finally do what I've been considering for ages. But with some slight changes. I would expand all over the galaxy. Having an insane economy and unlocking all the events while primitives ascend. Eventually i would vassalize all my sectors except my home world or the L Gate cluster. From their i would become a fallen empire and watch what becomes of the galaxy, only awakening for a crisis or fanatic purifier types

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Damn that sounds cool! If you really wanna sow the crazy, you could release all these vassals and see what sort of paths they take. Like a parent watching their children go and probably make bad decisions.

[@isaacgorski6054]

@@TheWolfwiththeDragon exactly the plan

[@haopham3129]

You should use the remnant origin, it really fit the vibe of a fallen empire

[@Youalleatmuffins]

💯

[@mifiwi3438]

My favorite Stellaris KZbinr has blessed my saturday

[@SpoopyChicken]

Reforming the Prikiki-ti is cannonically how I imagine the "Scion" origin to work.

[@zarzesratize1654]

I love this video! Great vid man

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :)

[@BullsMahunny]

*Prikkiki-Ti breaks free; slow heavy metal music becoming increasingly furious* Seriously though. A fallen empire run sounds interesting

[@ZACKMAN2007]

I would play as a holy guardian fallen empire just to crusade

[@thatregularguy]

Very nice video. Remember to always check the estimate arrival time for fleets so they all come at the same time. Alternatively have all you faster fleets follow your slowest.

[@BRDoriginal]

Any time i ramp up primitives and remove other empires, there always ends up being like 3 or 4 who enter the space stage within a like 2 years. It actually kinda annoying

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Maybe now that we have First Contact there are ways you could speed that up so that more enter the space stage.

[@Waroftheworldsz]

Yeah same here. Usually ends up being one or two powerful empires that enter the space age early then proceed to conquer or uplift the rest into their unified Empire. There's two mods I recommend for that. The mod that allows you to start with an extra-galactic portal, basically allowing you to start as a empire from another galaxy colonizing the current one. Or the playable fallen empires mod if it's still supported.

[@ramja9107]

Your content is great. Im surprised you don't get that many views

[@Kaador]

Bro you truly saved hundreds of million primitive souls from the sweet little lizzards. You are a true hero :)

[@Not_Octopus]

I fully understand why every fallen empire doesn't want ANYTHING to do with the galaxy. I'm 3/4 the way through the video; and dealing with the Prikki and space dragon, and general stress, I would want to mind my own business as well.

[@gregisk123]

This is a super cool idea! Gonna give it a try, too. Thanks for the content!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

You’re welcome! :)

[@art-games6230]

Really, original, I’m going to try this myself, also, it would have been fun too see you use the prikiki as a vassal, kinda like the scion origin

[@AFRorie]

Loving your Stellaris videos, with this one, I've now watched every one. Might do this one too, looked fun

[@JediMasterYoda66]

Another great video! Thanks!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :)

[@nekochiyu5060]

If you find those geckos, *always* repair the shield. Let those monsters fry

[@obliteron]

This was a really interesting idea. Well done!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :)

[@rdkap42]

I play something like this but as a "Middle Species". Max Primitives, Max Fallen Empires. I make it my mission to uplift as many primitives as I can and then give them independence after they adopt my civics. I don't do the 8 system rule. I do expand and contract as I uplift and give them independence.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

That sounds fun! I’d like to try that some day.

[@davidk1308]

Awesome! You're back :D

[@davidk1308]

Just finished, the Prikkiki-Ti just showing up was really funny. But I thought there would be more pre-FTLs rising up. I personally think out of the 3 Crises' the Contingency is the hardest since they come at the galaxy in 4 different directions.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

It was a moment of slight panic. Haha. I also thought there would be more. Might have to make a retry. This was a few major patches ago after all. Might be. But my issue was that I had simply not invested into alloys enough. I used to think there was such a thing as too much income, since if your storage is full it just gets wasted. But I know realize that they way to win wars like these is through building new ships faster than they kill yours and *fast*. And for that you want ridiculous alloy income and maybe a Mega-Shipyard. So next time I would have a different strategy prepared. Thank you so much for watching!

[@davidk1308]

@@TheWolfwiththeDragon A retry would be cool. I actually just started a run of my own with the current patch, and I also didn't invest into research and alloys nearly enough because despite every other Empire coming from a pre-FTL, I was still outclassed by half of them (there were actually enough to decently fill a Galactic Community) out of a dozen give or take (I didn't count them). Yeah, resource silos on Starbases are also a good investment, even if you hit your stockpile, it'll take longer to get there.

[@johnthecrazedsskull81]

I would have gone for Remnants or Post-Apocalyptic origins as that they are more thematic with an empire that has fallen. Ring world and life seeded also thematically work as they were they show the power of the fallen empire had while Clone army and void dwellers would have works as roleplaying as surviving remnants of the empire. Mod wise, the Dark Space adds a bunch of origins like Ninates, Vi and phoenix empire which are meant to be great civilisation making a come back.while solarflare is more of a empire that was in contact with a another empire, but it let's you have dark matter from the start..Dark space also allows you to become a fallen empire. Another mod is Planetary Diversity: Unique Worlds which adds a another set of origins that are basically great civilisations making a come back, but less OP as Dark Space. there's also the Gigastructures mod which has more megastructure origins, but I would recommend installing it for the shipwrecks and cool tech.

[@AlphaCore_]

Oh, hi there! Nice to see you back!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :)

[@nanosum1]

Your editing is amazing!

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you so much! :D

[@Lucaminio]

Oh lord what have you done I’ve never heard or seen this game but now I’m falling deep in a rabbit hole

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Welcome to my favorite game!

[@redtsun67]

Very interesting premise that I've thought of in the past a few times, mostly towards the end of my genocide playthroughs when I notice a pre-FTL civilization still exists. I might try this myself.

[@bigego503]

Greatly enjoyed this. Subbed. Looking forward to more. Good vid

[@MRDRK1]

Huh. Never thought of being a 'fallen empire' in this way. Very cool. 👍 Going to try it myself. Thanks!

[@MortSalazar]

I like how only galactical threat forced you to dump pacifism Fitting for a fallen empire i think.

[@jacko2660]

Nice to see you are back

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thank you! :D

[@samueltrusik3251]

This entire video is the greatest OOF. Nice.

[@danielr917]

This sounds like a really cool idea and I'll have to remember to try this myself sometime

[@daydayjoeyo]

Would love to see another run like this!

[@slenderminion2229]

Wolf: What if YOU were the Fallen Empire? The Machine Age: Interesting idea...

[@okupant880]

Wolf: Lets do this, no wars until my empire can rise from its stagnation. *Iron Savior - "Kill or Get Killed" starts playing* Prikkiki-Ti: "Buenos dias fboi" Wolf: "Cowabunga it is"

[@lukaswei4767]

the murder geckos going from xenophobe militarist to xenophile pacifist and back XD holy moly

[@toxicwaste159]

Since the standard difficulty setting does not affect the crisis but does affect AI empires (as well as Space Fauna and Marauders) it might be more fitting to have it set to the one that gives no buffs Although that way they wouldnt catch up to you ig so that might be an issue

[@xzardas541]

I'm pretty sure there was a mod that lets you play as actual fallen emprie, not sure if it was updated since fall of rome tho. There is aloso realy fun mod that lets you start in L-cluster, so you are completly isolated inside untill you get the gates open, kinda like fallen emprie with a twist.

[@ClingyParasite]

Player: "So lets chill and let the world grow, before we blow it up" Prikkiki-ti: "The roof, the roof is on fire!"

[@florians9949]

Wolf: now time a for nice peacefull start, woth no one being abble to- wait, why do I hear boss music? Prikki: did you miss us?

[@kanewilson8624]

Here’s what the AI fallen empires have that you don’t. 1. Already supremely high in tech (mid-end game levels) 2. Several fully formed fleets 3. An actual stock pile of resources from across the galaxy awaiting their collection. You may have been FIRST, but you were the first to fall

[@The_HappyHollow]

I havent watched the full video as of this comment, but the whole prikiki-ti thing, you could have kept them as a vassal and mimicked the start where you play as a subsidiary to a fallen empire and helped them grow/see if they ever try to rise up against you (if that is within the games capabilities). That could be fun.

[@llamaobama4695]

This is awesome

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Thanks man! :)

[@isuckatusernames4297]

an easy way to deal with the contigency fleets is to spam disruptors as the contigency has a botoriously low amount of hull points compared to everything else.

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

Uhm... are you sure you're not thinking of the Unbidden?

[@isuckatusernames4297]

@@Gustav_Kuriga nah, missiles for unbidden and artillery/kinetics seeing as they have almost only shields. althought disruptirs are always a good option.

[@Kaador]

And remember: Always (ALWAYS!) repair this fricking shield.

[@ExplotaOriginal]

1:28 I see what you've done there

[@gerryw173ify]

I had no idea the Ether Drake would chase you down.

[@arielli9489]

If there was a God Father of Amoebe monster.Then He will be pissed that a centurian has died.

[@armadillo3454]

Every playthrough ive done, no matter what race I choose, what government or where I go I fucking ALWAYS run into the Prakiki

[@Ackalan]

A tip fighting against most Crisis, use Destroyers with as many boosters as you can, either Hangar or Arc Emitters and have them using the Carrier computer, it'll kite around and widdle down the enemy. Use to the best effect with point defence.

[@roguephantom8823]

HES BACK! THE GOAT

[@zzpotatoxx]

This actually looks like a really fun way to play Stellaris

[@TheoSchattenfang]

i know i'm 6 months late but it's extremely funny to use Italian-esque music in a video about being a fallen empire

[@karenbaldwin2867]

MAN!! I ran into those unholy little shits on my very first playthrough ouch!!! I didn’t know what they were I didn’t think they were dangerous what a fool I was. And they spawned in so close to my borders, I was bulldozed into oblivion. They didn’t look that bad. They were actually kind of cute, (oh it’s a cute little lizard can’t be that dangerous HA!!) to an early gamer they might as well I’ve been the scourge!!! my entire save died to them twice!!

[@drokhalis3338]

Playing pacifist in Stellaris is like bringing a feather to tank warfare.

[@sterthebird1593]

THEY WERE GUARDING THE HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO THE GALAXY! XD

[@scoopidywhoop7484]

1:26 funny enough, Aeternum uses it too in gigastructures, so you aren't the only one!

[@TToxicom]

this was fucking great. just a pity not more primitives rose up ig. id love to see more like this

[@jadyriensubrayen1419]

have to say, I enjoyed this

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Fun to hear! ;)

[@SlicerJen]

Wars are political. Exterminations are merely pruning for the health of the garden.

[@mrfelslive]

Never ask Prikki what they did before 2318

[@silversabith]

Bubbles died, you either become the crisis or die with him.

[@Rith9789]

This was a wild ride. But very fun to listen to.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Happy you liked it!

[@KillerTurnus]

I looked at the video length and was like.. huh? Then then the gecko's appeared .. lol

[@ashura5468]

If you repair the shield of the prikkikiti-ti they will all die

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Yes. Somehow I missed that option and just went for ”leave it as is”.

[@ashura5468]

@@TheWolfwiththeDragon better than what i did first time, i opened it

[@arthurofalsen2110]

Have done something like this before. Very fun and unique

[@jackblack940]

“Anomaly discovered” four times in a row 😭

[@kya6816]

This looks quite fun concept play gonna try this 😂

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

If you like anomalies, I can recommend it.

[@FunkyMonkeyI]

Now the Fallen Empire has truly fallen.

[@martinlorca2024]

After watching you a decide that my first playthrouht in Stellaris will be just like the one you did (except that o am planing to be a militaristic xenophile and will expand as much as i can before an empire its strong enoght to fight me).

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

For a first ever playthrough I’m not sure this offers the best experience. You’ll own the galaxy easily without anyone to oppose you. But whatever floats your boat obviously!

[@JD867]

This, but 25x crisis, extra 100 years on the clock, and you're a necro race.

[@drefk1973]

What a fun way to play. I'm going to try this

[@madswipe4419]

Dealing with the prikkiti isn’t war, it’s pest control

[@sephy_yt4446]

First time seeing this game, looks quite fun

[@Awesomewithaz]

He really said I'm not going to let them out and then did not fix the shield 😂

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

I didn’t trust the ”repair the shield” option so I felt ”do nothing” was safer.