2022 Discraft Ledgestone Open | RD2 F9 | Tattar, Fajkus, Gannon, Mandujano

2022 Discraft Great Lakes Open
2022 DGPT Stop #11
Round 2 - F9 - FPO FEATURE
Northwoods Black DGC
Milton, Illinois
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Commentary Team
Madison Walker & Erika Stinchcomb
Players
Kristin Tattar
Lisa Fajkus
Missy Gannon
Valerie Mandujano
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[@kenmckenzie9434]

Wonderful coverage and commentary! Way to represent some great athletes!

[@jamesrowe7538]

Isn't anyone going to comment on "dancing on the pole" at 9:00? That is one of the many reasone I love Madison and Erica's commentary. These two should be the commentators for all FPO events. They are smart, supremely funny, and really good at DG. Would either marry a rec player? (just kidding)...not really. Definitely my favorite team. GK Pro, give them a huge raise.

[@jamesrowe7538]

except for the math...

[@Pwrcritter]

Quickly becoming a fan boy of Missys. Her game and style is most impressive.

[@Jase-ul5yi]

Her and ohn are my faves

[@michaelyahner6695]

need more Tattar grace’s in the world. she rips, and they rip.

[@southtoe3607]

yes they do. that glide number of 6 is wayyy accurate.

[@ATXNick]

Stoked to wake up to this!

[@mikehosier1239]

It's been such an exciting year for FPO. So many great players to root for. I'm a fan. 16:39 did I hear PDGA is making the baskets all uniform for every tournament next year? I love this change if so.

[@jamescox4823]

as long as the boys are not involved

[@mikehosier1239]

@@jamescox4823 nobody is pretending just to get ridiculed and maybe win a few grand here and there. Natalie is cool with me too. But I'm glad you're watching, as I've said before, SHE is good for the game love her or hate her.

[@jamescox4823]

@@mikehosier1239 no as the parent of an x pro athlete IT is good for nothing! Absolutely nothing!

[@jamescox4823]

@@mikehosier1239 Actually Nate is a common thief, every time a male competes in a woman's event it has degraded the activity and stole positions and money. I will not watch if HE is permitted to play in the FPO

[@pbz7455]

Here to see Kristin whoop the best in the world

[@josephvincent4629]

These girls are killing it!!

[@ToddPataky]

Valerie should have gotten an automatic ace for stopping a disc on top of the basket. LOL

[@bashildy]

Followed the rules on that which is a good example. Marked the lie under the basket, released the disc in the basket ( you can't just tap the chains ), to hole out. Knows the camera is on her, and that these tournaments can come down to a single stroke. Multiple corners that you can easily cut on that, but played it by the rules.

[@allocat5867]

These ladies making this course look easy!

[@cricketfilms1879]

Lmao to be fair... for professionals... it is easy.

[@josephvincent4629]

I have a huge crush on Valarie!

[@whitedeion598]

I have a crush on Natalie Ryan!

[@AdamtheRed-]

@@whitedeion598 cool. Ask her out.

[@Marekval]

Looks like Mandujano-s like to step on their discs. 🤫

[@FlorpingAllOver]

HOOONK!!

[@mech0p]

I find it weird how if it sticks in the side of the basket its in now but if it lands in the top its still no good. I personally think neither should counts but putting it into the side of the basket is no different than being on top.

[@Solontire]

When my group and I play casually we count the disc as going in if it lands on top. It obviously shouldn’t count in professional play but it’s pretty rare when it happens and we all find it funny and give it to the thrower.

[@angieb8941]

They changed the rule to count it when wedged in the cage because unless you saw what happened there is no way to know if it was inside the basket and tried to escape through the cage. I had a wedge ace on Aug 1. I saw what happened but I will never tell.

[@Edmo]

If I understand it correctly the disc has to at first "enter" the basket at the chain height and if it bounce back and stay hanging on the basket outside then it is counted. I could not see a dist go from the chains bounce to the top of the basket...

[@mech0p]

@@Edmo They count it if weged in the holes in the basket as well.

[@mech0p]

@@angieb8941 Lol I feel like a simple way to solve that would be to make smaller holes. but hey what do i know lol

[@whitedeion598]

Haven't seen much of Lisa this year

[@wetdroidedition2549]

This Disc Golf Channel has a more PRO comoetition and better players than GateKeeper Media. Am I right?

[@colin7406]

9:15 if you stand directly in the line of sight while someone is putting... DON'T MOVE. I'll tell myself I'm the best putter in the world and that guy disrespecting me in the background doesn't matter but the reality is it effects the putt

[@ninefingers5415]

Honk! Just wanted to mention that in her interview Kristin said it was the backhand that bothered her more than the forehand.

[@disc6337]

Valerie foot fault shot 2 hole 1

[@mystaphaphas]

8:39

[@fantastipotomus]

nice

[@southtoe3607]

All these ads tho...

[@iamsum1gr8]

There was one ad break in the video. If you're getting youtube ads, then that's on you, there are many ways around them

[@josephvincent4629]

I can't find it

[@josephvincent4629]

Do they make certain disc's for women?

[@andrewthompson5012]

No, discs are not made based on a certain sex. You should match the disc to your arm speed not your gender.

[@whitedeion598]

The pink ones are for women

[@josephvincent4629]

Wasn't sure

[@42WasTheAnswer]

@@josephvincent4629 what’s crazy is these women are throwing max weight discs so they don’t get all squirrelly in the wind.

[@JesseJ588]

3:07 it's "champing at the bit". 🐴

[@mikeczosnek4425]

chomping

[@MrCornaldo]

Can someone explain to me why FPO scores are usually a lot worse than MPO? when they play different courses

[@andrewthompson5012]

-12 is leading FPO, -13 leading MPO after 2 days. 45% of FPO is under par at this point while 33% of MPO is under par. Both fields have one round at Northwood and one round at a different course. *EDIT: I am not agreeing FPO scores are A LOT worse than MPO, Im trying to show that a score relation to each field should not matter or be compared in any way.

[@angieb8941]

In my opinion, there are many reasons for this. Often the courses are not well designed for the capabilities of FPO. Biological females have a different body structure and cannot throw as far as biological men. It affects more than distance too. Men have bigger hands which also helps with putting. Men can throw slower discs which have more accuracy and get the distance needed. Women have to throw faster discs for that same distance and that can result in tree hits. Another factor is that young women don’t even know about disc golf. It isn’t like basketball, softball, volleyball, or soccer which are often part of school. We are fortunate that Valerie and Alexis were introduced to disc golf at a young age and they both have a desire to be great at it. They have spent nine years learning proper throwing technique and spent who knows how many hours practicing their putts. The only thing keeping them from dominating this year is that they just need more experience touring. It is barely their second year touring full time. It isn’t going to be easy to defeat Kristin. It is going to require Valerie being mentally focused like she was for Portland.

[@southtoe3607]

@@angieb8941 good point about the needing to throw faster discs, thus more tree hits. Never considered that. However, I doubt hand size has much to do with putting. I think the FPO as a whole just needs to practice putting more. If there were a putting competition throughout the FPO field, Ohn and Missy would wipe the floor with literally everyone else.

[@angieb8941]

@@southtoe3607 I agree about putting practice. I think hand size just allows more pop with control. I should have said it helps putting range. Ohn is amazing. I think she putts with a power grip. I thought of another reason MPO is better. I would guess some of the ladies haven’t even played other sports. They haven’t had any coaching. I would guess a lot of the men played other sports and were more exposed to coaching and I would think coaches would teach discipline….practice discipline as well as mental discipline.

[@AdamtheRed-]

@@angieb8941 stop trying to rile people up with your transphobia.

[@GravyInMyVeins]

Albahonk

[@joshuaellingham7055]

Honk

[@jacobsirratt7919]

I wanna know why the course didn’t look like that at the junior world championships. Those kids were treated like second class citizens at somebody else’s tournament. It was just sad.

[@mikeczosnek4425]

You expecting an answer?

[@jacobsirratt7919]

@@mikeczosnek4425 not really. It’s just pretty ridiculous and I think it should be pointed out whenever possible.