Glee - Emma Goes To See A Therapist 2x18

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Episode: Born This Way

[@lolalol2502]

"Your illness is not who you're supposed to be, it's keeping you from who you're supposed to be" This line speaks to me SO much. I love Glee for this. Not many TV shows touch on what it actually feels like to have mental illness.

[@crmtery3253]

Lola Lol Glee was so different and unique in S1-S2.

[@brettlarch8050]

Took the words right out of my mouth!

[@Chibbykins]

@J. O. What you're talking about is not specific to "social justice warriors". Do you know how many Joker fans look up to Arthur? This is a very real universal issue.

[@graciesaunders7418]

Glee did a lot of stupid stuff but when they got things right, damn, they got them right

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

If only they gave this treatment to Marley

[@hannahlynn8028]

@@tahraethestoryteller6079 right?!

[@hannahthomas6649]

Yes yes yes. The little things, too. Like in the last episode, when I saw Emma with her and Will's kids, I started balling. I have ocd and always thought it was stupid or unrealistic to have kids, scared I'd make them as crazy as I am. But that scene gave me a little bit of hope.

[@merbish7962]

This and the scene where Kurt’s dad goes off on Finn are the scenes that got things RIGHT.

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

But unfortunately the stupid stuff trumps the good stuff :/

[@ismaelreyes8437]

Emma saying “I just...feel so ashamed.” And crying breaks my heart everytime

[@ryukomatoi3540]

Such a fantastic scene. Mental Illness should be talked about more on TV, things like Anxiety and Depression are super serious issues that deserve the limelight. Emma is one of my favorite characters, loved her journey!

[@lokasennax3097]

Ryuko Matoi I have anxiety

[@michellen9833]

idk yes it is OCD gives people depression and anxiety

[@michellen9833]

idk please learn more about it because some people with OCD suffer from ego dystonic example their thoughts are “what if I accidentally poison my family” and they constantly think negative things like that which puts them in a dark space and gets them depressed and gives them anxiety OCD isn’t just cleaning constantly there are many forms of OCD

[@goofball2228]

I relate to her so much. When she said “I don’t wanna pop pills just to be who everyone wants me to be.” I felt that. That’s why it was so hard for me to start medications because I felt like it was changing who I was but my doctor said “Medications won’t change who you are, they will help you be a happy version of who you are.” That’s all it took, I started taking the meds and they help so much.

[@nataliezaya3496]

“Like all the color just came out of the world”

[@sweetlysavageplays1441]

even three years later I'm amazed, when Emma starts crying while still smiling, it was like you could see the walls around her falling down while she was still trying to pretend everything was ok , this scene was acting at its finest

[@alexalyric]

I wish there were more therapists like her around.

[@omniarch8078]

AlexaFly most therapists are like this but only if you talk to them and tell them what’s on your mind

[@alexalyric]

Omar Dugee That’s not at all my expectations

[@elsajohansson5316]

@@omniarch8078 in the uk i totally disagree a whole bunch of people i know have had really terrible experiences with them like all this one woman told me after eight months is that jogging, some candles and a bath would cure my depression lol

[@falloutgirl902]

I’ve come back to this scene that I saw all the years ago it aired because even though the therapist had such a all small role I thought she was so impactful and brilliant in her sincerity. Her eyes and her tone were so spot on.

[@ifeelpretty5790]

Kathleen Quinlan is great, she was Oscar-nominated for Apollo 13.

[@falloutgirl902]

ifeelpretty57 oh cool! I didn’t know that

[@jordanwest1209]

Thank you so much for uploading this scene! I was diagnosed with OCD, as well, and I can totally understand how Emma feels in this scene. People should talk more about mental illness, it is so stigmatized. Lots of people don't dara seeing a therapist, even though it is necessary. I still love glee for dealing with this important topic. It encouraged me to find help.

[@jordanwest1209]

I just figured that someone who needs help might one day see my old comment and might not be sure whether going to therapy actually is effective and worth the effort. Let me tell you this: People might say that you should not ask for help and that you do not need a therapist, but now, two years later, I can tell you in all honesty: Therapy has helped me so much with my OCD and I can only advise each and everyone in need of help to go and seek help. I'm not cured, I guess OCD cannot really be cured. But I learned how to break the patterns and how to control it. And it does not matter whether you are struggling with OCD or any other disorder problem: don't be ashamed of it and don't be afraid to ask for help.

[@Rileytanner0601]

Is it just me or do I find it satisfying when emma cleans the chair?

[@adeleaslan8182]

Asmr

[@k.r.jrandomchannel8022]

She spent the entire session cleaning the chair That's gotta be the wake up call of the century! You can see that in her Face! I love her so much And huge respect to therapist and those going through therapy, hang in there my friends!

[@sunnybloom7272]

I love this scene immensely. It’s a great way to talk about mental health and the road to recovery. I do have one issue with it though, as a psych student. Emma was diagnosed with OCD, but her symptoms of those of OCPD (obsessive compulsive personality disorder), namely how she talks about this just being her life and something that is a part of her, displaying what is called ego syntonic behaviour. Both are very similar, but are treated slightly differently, and that always makes me see Emma a little differently. Still love this scene though.

[@hannahlynn8028]

can you talk about the differences?

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

@@hannahlynn8028 basically OCPD is when the stereotypical ocd (everything neat and perfect) and the individual has no anxiety surrounding their compulsions

[@hannahlynn8028]

@@tahraethestoryteller6079 that's interesting, because i have a few compulsions, but i actually feel "content" doing them because it "feels good" and doesn't feel anxiety driven.

[@chloedillingham-jones6641]

I’m happy for Emma that she finally got the help she needs. I do have questions though 1. How would she handle baby throw up on her special Wednesday sweater?

[@gaara33373]

To be fair, with this scene it makes 51 mins.

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

Given how her parents treated her illness I'm not surprised Emma felt so much shame and embarrassment in seeking help

[@nicholasalessandrini1453]

god i want that therapist. her voice is so soothing

[@celastik]

"Your illness is not who you're supposed to be" Probably the line in the whole show that stuck with me the most

[@adamcalo578]

If this woman gave her medicine, then she's a psychiatrist, not a therapist.

[@woo22322232]

adam calo therapists in America can give scripts to patients

[@veronicadunrod6814]

It depends on their years of experience.

[@ayajade6683]

She's a psychotherapist ie therapist that can write prescriptions

[@christian_k_e]

@@ayajade6683 no, psychotherapists CANNOT write prescriptions, psychiatrists can.

[@brittnaymatthews7122]

@@woo22322232 No they can't. I live in America and they definitely can't.

[@hannahlynn8028]

I don't blame her for not wanting to take pills. when I had a nervous breakdown and went into hospital, we never had one on one talks like this. They just prescribed me Prozac. and I had these unnatural feelings - these bursts of elation, but then I couldn't feel much of anything else. I had reasons to cry and I wanted to cry & let it all out and I couldn't. Therapy wouldn't have been helpful even if it had been offered because my emotions were being suppressed chemically. and I was on a lowest possible dose.

[@annellle]

Unfortunately that’s fluoxetine. Works for some, is pretty shit for others. I personally found the SSRI I took one of the worst ones, but am on another one now (a max dose of an SNRI to be exact) which doesn’t feel horrible. no bursts of elation of course (yay depression lmao), but at least not as low as i could be / had been on the lower doses of an SSRI.

[@ianmascena1126]

It's amazing how, in less than 3 minutes, Glee was able to convey an extremely important message and change the lives of some who watched.

[@alextroy9202]

this scene feels so human, raw

[@brittnaymatthews7122]

Watching this after taking my first ADHD pill (I already take my anxiety ones) because I was feeling down about it, so thank you for uploading this!

[@sweetsofieva444]

0:00-0:08 ASMR

[@NububuChan]

Glad I'm not the only one who gets tingles in those first 8 seconds!

[@remysumner5501]

Misophonia instantly

[@adamariff7464]

This video is when my asmr journey started

[@Doxologie]

Yasss came back just for the ASMR

[@roguedetal6072]

I just started watching this show. I don't have ocd. I have struggled with addition, and in a way I still am. But ever since my parents got divorced last year and my mom died 2 months ago I've been very depressed. This makes it harder to not give into addiction. The feeling of shame, even for my dark thoughts are overwhelming. And this scene hit me so hard. It really helped, even if for a minute or two. Well done Glee!

[@xiaowayama4392]

They spent longer then 50 min!

[@brittnaymatthews7122]

Some people go overtime, it's pretty normal

[@fayfalc21]

i have ocd as well, this scene is so relatable and heartbreaking that i starting tearing up on my rewatch of glee

[@ughchelsey]

for someone who’s been in therapy I just cry at this.

[@fabiancaius]

i just wanna say that Jenna is such a talented actress, she portrays this scene so so so so well.. the moment where she realizes what the therapist said were true the emotions felt real.. and its so so well.. thats exactly how i reacted when i told my mom i was molested and i felt that

[@RAch711baby]

I feel like sense this has been aired mental illness is talked about more which is amazing

[@mariafox9226]

If a student told me that they had diabetes I would’ve given them insulin.

[@barbyzz22]

Exactly. That exchange is to highlight the stigma there is to mental illness (even among those who suffer from it, which came to internalize the prejudice) opposite the widespread acceptance of more physical issues. It was a subtle thing, but it was brilliant to drive the point home.

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

If you're a teacher you probably shouldn't That's something they, a trusted caregiver, or a medical professional is supposed to do Unless you mean advising them to take the appropriate medication if they needed as opposed to saying "that's how you're supposed to be"

[@catarinamartinez9418]

The first ten seconds is literally the best asmr ngl

[@PaulBeet]

Does anyone else wonder if the psychiatrist is the same actress who tested Ryder for Dyslexia ?

[@fatimamachorro2863]

I dont have OCD but I suffer from anxiety and I have just recently talked to a therapist and this just speaks to me...😢 Edit: I'm back and recently just got into medication to cope with my depression

[@jazmined5409]

that was a good 9 seconds of asmr.

[@morganwiddison]

I feel so ashamed.

[@sunnirobertson4316]

I have OCD as well

[@TheJeminiteLaw]

❤️2:22-2:31❤️

[@MarkyMat23]

THIS IS WHY I F*CKING LOVE GLEE! GLEEE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY... THERE'S NO SHOW LIKE ANY OTHER!

[@MsTinkerbelle87]

The show SUCKS!!!

[@bryonmurphy7049]

Say all you will about the wedding episode: THIS was the definitive end of Emma’s character arc.

[@beanie9040]

I guess I feel ashamed sometimes. I don't always want to talk about my anxiety with like my family and stuff because I'm subconsciously trying to avoid it. I need to put some medical cream on my face where I've picked at myself out of anxiety or boredom, but I don't often use it. I do push my anxiety aside despite the fact is has set me back from doing a lot of things I know I'm good at.

[@Doxologie]

Asmr when shes cleaning the chair

[@Jobe-13]

Dang

[@peggybuetow1026]

I’m afraid we’re out of time……. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@faithkidwell9757]

Can someone explain post param depression to me? Like if you just gave birth what make mothers so sad is it like a chemical thing? Not trying to make fun of this because as some one who struggles with regular depression I would never make fun of illnesses I just want to understand

[@sunjanadas8795]

I think postpartum depression develops in multiple ways, but the person that I knew who had it got it because their pregnancy was so difficult, and they had developed a feeling of resentment towards their child. Hope this helps a little!

[@faithkidwell9757]

Sunjana Das thank you so much!

[@amyaurion]

During pregnancy the hormone levels in your body change drastically. Postpartum depression usually has nothing to do with resentment. It's the drop in hormone levels and the sudden chemical changes that come right after giving birth. You were connected to another human for nine months and suddenly you are not and now you're supposed to take care of this helpless being which is absolutely depended on you - that plus the imbalance and changes of hormone levels can lead to severe depression.

[@faithkidwell9757]

Finn thank you

[@hanindhira]

It began with baby blues actually, baby blues was a mild case of post pantrum depression. If within the 2weeks the baby blues not gone, it will leads too the ppdepresion. Thats why newborn and new mothers need someone to look out for them. Lack of sleep+sudden hormones changes+bad environment (judgemental people, family not supporting) can really have someone to this ilness. I had baby blues once, constantly crying out of the blue, getting angry at little things. I got so stressed out the first time i got home after the second newborn bcs my 2 yo got really sick from sore throat, my mom got her so much chocolate without considering she could gotten sick while i was in the hospital (my husband need to worked), i need rest and i got none bcs she's all clingy to me while i need to look out for the newborn. Some fathers can have this ppd too actually. Baby blues and ppd is more common than you think, so if u see news somewhere that a mother killed her 5yo or maybe a baby some of them probably have a ppd.

[@mariamanovski8632]

I know how Emma feels. I myself am a germaphobe with OCD. Sometimes the lack of an hour is all you need.

[@naruespinozahuerta8264]

Ojala alguien pueda traducirlo 😣

[@barleyteaa]

I don't know who needs to hear this but my medication makes me feel more like myself. You will find one that works.

[@rowanbrown3376]

Everyone made fun of then. But she's the one with the purell we all long for now

[@isaacmahoney5947]

Sorry but im a majority way through season 1 and spending 48 minutes to clean a chair is soo extreme for her character.

[@jessicaeliza8290]

But if you remember, when stress is put on her, her OCD intensifies and she was in so much stress in this episode and the episode before so it makes sense

[@MidnightRaindrops]

This is glee. This is one of the less extreme cases of people acting out of character.

[@gaara33373]

I mean, stress does worsen OCD. Or it could get worse with time too. It really all depends on the person tbh.

[@peggybuetow1026]

Is that Jennifer Grey?

[@horror_podcasts_are_elite]

I know this scene is supposed to be serious but like if like if I was in love with will schuester I would as well

[@getrektboy]

she literally compared ocd with diabetes

[@carlasimpson2107]

okay, I'm sorry but this woman is a terrible therapist. Why is everyone saying she was helpful? I mean maybe later in the series but holy shit, she is TERRIBLE in this scene.

[@sleepyote]

She's not even supposed to prescribe medication, that's the psychologist's job. Even if she was the pyschlogist, she wouldn't prescribe something so quickly.

[@arnenuytten1411]

Actually she is helpfull. She helps Emma understand that their is a problem and why it is a problem. So Emma can see it is a problem. Also she tells Emma that their is notting to be ashamed of. That is valuable, was every therapist like this woman, their would be less stigma and people wouldn't feel ashamed of it. The reason she tells Emma about her ppdepression is to show her that everybody can have a mental illnes. Also, she describes medicines. So she is a shrink. The reason she discribes them is because facing such a mental illnes is like looking in the mirror and thinking: "Did I do everything wrong? What is my life?" But also and this is way more reason: their will be changes and for someone who has OCD her whole life, it is life changing. Those changes on this moment in her fase can be overwhelming and be diffucult to coop with. So she give her the pills already, because she knows that it will be a hard time an the odds for a depression is very big at that moment. It is preventif, so she can work with Emma without having to start the SSRI's in the middle of her program. The first 2 weeks, the chance someone do suicide is very big. So before unmantling the illnis, it is wise because she hasn't started yet with the therapy. It would be too heavy to coop with in a weaker moment. (Sorry for my English, I'm dutch)

[@jaylonsharp236]

OCD shouldn’t be considered a mental illness