Glee - Sheldon Returns To Mckinley 6x07

[@carntmax8952]

I love how they show a transformation in glee however I don’t understand why they felt the need to do this. With other characters yes, but Coach Beiste?? Coach Beiste’s character basically showed how it’s okay to be a woman with masculine traits and features?? I know many women who relate to her. They should’ve chosen someone else to transition, because Coach Beiste was inspiring as a woman. With all due respect, sometimes Glee should’ve left characters alone the way they were!

[@seirrasky3581]

Agreed. She cried as she put lipstick on cause people wouldn’t treat her like a lady. She stayed in that abusive marriage because he was the only man who made her feel feminine. I don’t know if they got new writers or something but the season two writers had a completely different idea in mind for this character. Your right. Maybe they could have introduced a new transitioned character or someone transitioning where it would have been more organic. I’m actually kinda irritated at this.

[@Isabelle-hv6ny]

@@maria-vw4bb I mean Unique is a transexual character.

[@xxgamin6986]

They tackled transgender subject with unique they could’ve just bring back her

[@samwalker4764]

I loved her as shannon

[@OneIn._.AMillion]

Yes i agree

[@stellacoul]

Beiste was one of the best characters on Glee and also my favourite character on that show.

[@kuroko6441]

What show

[@carlyedwards1422]

Nothing about this storyline makes sense 1. Biestes whole character was that she was insecure about her mannish looks and wanted to be treated like a girl and the writers were basically like jk she's a he 2. Sue being so accepting of it when in season 4 she threw a transphobic tantrum about unique playing Rizzo in grease

[@z0mbiebra1nz]

with the 2nd one sue probably stopped being transphobic n had character development, but i don’t understand y glee made beiste trans, they shouldnt have done that imo

[@amandam1956]

I thought that Sue didn’t want Unique to play rizzo cause she didn’t want unique to get bullied like Kurt did. But I could be wrong 🤷‍♀️

[@Justaguythatcameby]

i think is like becky, sue selects the people she is being accepting and sheldon was a friend of sue

[@clawdmoviemonster]

Sue is disgusted by her past as an actor so she hates Glee Club for them wanting to career in those things too knowing she haven’t succeed. I think she was just a big fan of Grease and seeing Unique playing Rizzo just made her very mad because for her it was like a big joke for grease

[@genderpunktheo]

This scene is weird and frustrating because on the one hand it's almost what I want a trans story to look like - supportive (if over the top) friends, being accepted, living his true life. But on the other hand, it makes no sense when we take into account all of Beiste's other storylines which were very much about how it's okay to be a masculine woman. Both storylines are great individually but smashing them together simply doesn't work.

[@Lonarix1]

Theo Hendrie I agree with you. Look on the bright side, it’s not as bad as Yael from Degrassi. Lol

[@t.s3994]

I agree. I’m not Trans so if this is incorrect let me no, but I thought the story line was done well. It brought up some of the struggles, the surgery, and having to speak to a dr before everything, but it didn’t make sense for the character

[@VeronicaBaughman]

Is it possible that maybe Beiste did accept her masculinity as a woman before transitioning but maybe realized it wasn't enough? I'm not trans myself, but doesn't it seem more realistic to think accepting herself as "masculine" was the first step to realizing that she wanted to be more than that?

[@airsoul366]

@@VeronicaBaughman All this off screen speculation is doing nothing, the mere idea of writing her transition destroys all of her previous character development.

[@airsoul366]

Honestly, the storyline was really good, but Bieste was out of place in that, it could have been any other LGBTQ character in the show and it would have been a bit more believable.

[@calebrichardson5021]

When I first saw this episode, I immediately assumed they did this storyline to address the actor being transgender and going through reassignment surgery. I was way off base. The actress was not transgender and this was in fact makeup plus just a tiny bit of CGI. I was stunned to learn the actress was still a woman given she looked like a guy in these scenes and gave such a believable performance.

[@jacobboshears9762]

Sue: "As you know, I've always been quite vocal about my opposition to bullying in any form." Also Sue (5 secs later): "Now if you'll excuse me, out of the corner of my eye, I see a fatty who could use a good, healthy fat-shaming." 😂😂😂😂

[@briloveskurthummelbriones1565]

Sam looks like he's about to scream when coach Sheldon walked in!😆

[@katie-hf3px]

girl you're everywhere wtf

[@jacobplays6917]

@@katie-hf3px IKR 🤣🤣🤣

[@laurenjcoates]

The show handled this so well, i just wish that they hadn’t chosen Beast as the character to get the storyline. Undermines the arc they were trying to achieve with him pre-transition about women being not traditionally feminine but still women

[@frandarling8054]

Exactamundo. Unique’s story was the perfect light shining on transgender folks

[@falyn5858]

@Kai unique was mtf trans!! :)

[@mythicalashley9542]

I think it's perfect sometimes why hidewho we truly are becuase were I secure or just not sure so we act like things are ok but they're not

[@freyaallan3267]

this! the storyline was handled well but it was given to the wrong character

[@mar1aaostolou657]

I never reealy liked what glee did there . I of course did not kind it but I thought that Shannon was a great example for independent strong masculine women ...

[@annamars4079]

Putting aside the issues with this storyline I love how Sam said “in true form” he’s so cute

[@agamamos282]

I always thinking that sam was on drugs in this scene😂😂😂

[@samanthapatrick4345]

I think he was worried about saying the wrong thing

[@airsoul366]

Still the worst storyline they ever forced on this. Beiste turning out to be transgender was a slap in the face to women in general. Because as glee shows, if you are female and overly aggressive and strong, you are just denying the idea that you are a man.

[@kingofpopmichaeljman]

Phoenix King Often trans guys try to be masculine women at first and later realize the masculine is right but the woman aspect is wrong. It would have been nice to have another character that was a masculine woman that didn’t turn out to be trans but it’s nice to see a trans person that isn’t the butt of all the jokes in the show simply because they are trans

[@BiteSizedCrafter]

Phoenix King Your comment comes off transphobic..

[@ellssss_]

TheBiteSizedCrafter I see why it would come across that way, but I do understand what they are saying. I think what they mean is that it’s implying that all strong women want to transition. They are just highlighting how it comes across, I doubt it’s to insult trans people in any way

[@ellssss_]

Agreed

[@screamingscarlette]

This is Terfy af

[@jean-louisecarroll2447]

not to be a stickler but physically transitioning (most likely T shots in this case) take a pretty long time to show full effects, so its really unlikely a public school teacher could take a "little bit of time" off and come back looking fully passing. A little more research would've helped here haha

[@phyllismartin674]

In fact, the actor does not at all look like she is passing as a man.

[@nicolast8931]

eh i think him saying he took "a little bit of time off" was like a hyperbole or something bc I think we're meant to assume he got top surgery as well so I'm assuming he took months and months off. also maybe T affects happen faster at older ages?

[@jean-louisecarroll2447]

@@nicolast8931 again I'm pretty sure a public high school teacher in America couldn't take months off though 😓

[@nicolast8931]

@@jean-louisecarroll2447 mm good point.

[@amasilvaa]

I simply don’t like the way they addressed this, cuz sure it’s completely amazing they wanted to show a trans-male story but with Beiste? Part of the charm and what we all loved about the character is that it showed us that women can be more masculine but still being comfortable in their skin but then all of a sudden they decide that that storyline wasn’t working anymore so they made it about a trans person, don’t misunderstand me im completely supportive to the lgbtq+ community, it’s just that they took this iconic character that really showed us a difference and went all way to the easy path, discarding an amazing plot for an amazing character that showed us that we can all have different styles and still being respectable and feeling good with ourselves

[@watercolor1040]

Okay, I love glee but he always said stuff about being a girl and stuff. Now this. I just don't get it...

[@tinytrash6146]

Sometimes that happens. Sometimes you come to realize that what you thought you were ok with doesn't really feel right. And it can come out of nowhere and hit you like a ton of bricks. For some it's more the thought that "hey I can make things better and I don't have to settle for ok." That brings on that change of mind.

[@ebsii0687]

@@tinytrash6146 but she said that she had always felt like she was a guy, even though there was a whole plot where she was just a girl and she was just treated differently so it made no sense.

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

Ebony Banks Although I agree with you, while we question people’s identities the lest we can do is use proper pronouns. *He But if we’re regretting to the actress, nvm. That’s a she. The plot seems shoved in, and if they wanted to give trans men representation, I don’t think this is the way to do it. They took representation away from tomboys and gave it to the trans people, which makes me fear tomboys will think they’re transgender (which isn’t always the case, feminine trans men exist too)

[@ebsii0687]

@@user-sf9gs2pg1b I was referring to the past gender of the character but also yeah I guess hes a he? Idk how to refer to them in the past.

[@amandagomes3999]

@@ebsii0687 just use the pronoun he decided to be addressed later on cuz in the end he was always a man but in a woman's body

[@solavidroa8484]

Sue: and coach as you know i've always been against bullying in any form *10 seconds later* Sue: I see a fatty who could use a good healthy fat shaming

[@rrousseau9295]

Sue: “metaphorically because real mean don’t cry” Sam: 😶😐

[@tinytrash6146]

I see a lot of people saying how this was misrepresentation of trans and/or undermining to women but personally I don't really have a problem with this. I've known a lot of people who have gone through this in a similar way and in the end it's all about how the person feels. And even though I can see where it didn't quite work on a more grander scale the way I see it is that it may not be the best representation but it's representation non the less. To me it's harmless.

[@BiteSizedCrafter]

Tiny Trash Thank you!

[@amandagomes3999]

But the problem was the lack of development and the fact that it was played by a cis actress I think. It always felt to me that they just need to show how forward thinking they were and did this on without actually thinking through instead of actually addressing all his past character development and making it seem it's just two different people

[@bibaolaitan5189]

Representation should not be the goal here, its character development that is important, and they completely ruined that.. to represent, rubbish, transgender could have been any other story, and not for beiste, they were potraying manly women has just being secretly transgender.

[@Abi-pd7be]

Yeah a lot of people are brainwashed, i don't doubt it

[@laurakristine5171]

I'm proud of him for being strong

[@brettkimura]

I love Sheldon!! So brave for being himself!!!!

[@gameingmushrooms6776]

Sheldon and sue are my spirit animals lol

[@raynermooney1239]

As much as I find it interesting that they chose to do this with Beiste's character in the end, I kind of wish they hadn't. If I remember correctly, there was nothing in the previous seasons to suggest she (he?) was transgender so to me it feels forced. But whatever. What's done is done and there's no going back now that show's finished.

[@ronzolotareov9005]

He. And he just realised he was transgender so obviously there wont be anything in his past suggesting that.

[@memeking6963]

@@ronzolotareov9005 Understandable but in cinematography everything is hinted at, its what makes a show feel put together. This was deffo rushed

[@ronzolotareov9005]

@@memeking6963 I agree that it was rushed like most of the glee plot lines😂 but I did still love that plot and it felt like He finally found himseld

[@memeking6963]

@@ronzolotareov9005 yeah its more the motivation behind it that annoys a lot of trans people. Trans people just always seem to be an afterthought

[@maria-vw4bb]

From a psychological perspective this is normal. It happens. But since this is a show, they ruined Beiste’s character.

[@imnotreallyjess4318]

yeah, they had the chance to make a storyline that makes sense and ties itself together, which doesn't always happen in real life. but they just slapped this plot point on beiste, out of the blue, and called it a day.

[@goodaimshield1115]

Not really. She said several times she was a woman and was sad she was not treated as such because of her looks. No trans boy ever wanted to be treated as a woman nor would they have any problems if the had masculine attributes.

[@imnotreallyjess4318]

@@goodaimshield1115 you can't really speak for all trans man tho. i get your point, but a lot of trans man used to be hyperfeminine to "make up" for their true inner desires to be male, and repelled their masculine traits out of insecurity.

[@outside8312]

She was such a strong, empowering female role model and then they just destroyed it all. This was not ok

[@kendalledwards6898]

Sam's reaction is was very priceless! 😂😂😂

[@cupcakelover5307]

I am so proud of Coach

[@thebrbiedreamhouse]

AJDKSHSJHDKAJJDHAJ SAM IS SO CUTE AND SUPPORTIVE THOUGH

[@Isabella-bk5lc]

So brave I love this part ❤️

[@nalaandtheotheroneig492]

Can you post more of Finn and Rachel in season 3? Love your videos ❤️

[@emiliaford7323]

Sam and coach real good friends

[@charlysydow5647]

He became such a handsome lad🥰

[@ammilligan]

He looks like Officer Kennedy From The Little Rascals Save The Day

[@mintyglitches]

facial hair yet no voice drop, okay glee fgdsfg

[@saracoutinho3398]

Ikr 😂😂😂

[@dazed__confused1006]

I like how beiste always said he wanted to feel like a girl and how he never felt like one. But it makes sence now that hes a dude.

[@inuyasha1014]

at the end of the day some of y'all are saying the exact same things that family members say to trans people. "you being trans doesn't make sense", "you're ruining who you are", "this can't have been your choice, you must have just been influenced by all this pride stuff and you wanted to fit in", "you said all this stuff about wanting to be more feminine, you can't be a man" like being trans doesn't always make sense in a perfect wrapped bow, sometimes things are contradictory, most likely out of them desperately trying to be something that they're not. And to the people saying it's bad the show took a masculine woman and make them into a trans male, there are a lot more examples in media of masculine female characters who show that it's okay to be masculine than there are characters who are series regulars that go through a transition, it is much more uncommon, so pragmatically it's way more beneficial to show this rarely shown message, especially at the time where there were very few trans characters in media at all. Audiences got to know beiste as a woman and then learned to adapt to him being a man, and the fact that so many people can't accept the character as he is even to this day is proof that we could benefit from more character arcs like this in media. and for the people who are saying "well they should've shown him realizing he was trans and all the evidence and everything" again in real life, when someone comes out as trans, you are very likely going to be hit with it rather than slowly introduced. we were hit with it and while some people were accepting, so many demanded evidence and reasons why. like is this how you would treat a trans person coming out?

[@taramcgettrick8464]

I agree. I wasn't too sure of the storyline at first but after reading about trans peoples opionions on it I came to realise that it's fine. I'm not transphobic I am nonbinary (closeted) and while it was a bit of a shock at first I got used to it. If Sheldon's a man he's a man and perhaps he wanted to be feminine before he came out due to internalised transphobia but over the years he began to embrace his true self and got to be in a body he feels more comforatable in and also we get to see people coming out/transitioning later in life and not just 15-25 year olds. There also is a lesson in that and I think this was one story line Glee handled very well imo

[@NeelTheSphynx]

Yeah but her character went from "deep down I'm just an ordinary girl" to this. She wasn't trans before this season. She was actively fighting for her own femininity throughout the series. When being referred to as anything male she was offended. Dot Marie Jones is one of my favorite character actors and has been since Lizze McGuire. I loved this character and what they did was a 180 and a betrayal of the character.

[@inuyasha1014]

@@NeelTheSphynx You're following the Jimmy Doore Show, someone who spouts a lot of antagonistic rhetoric, calls people snowflakes and other shit like that. With that context, it makes sense you would have that opinion.

[@Abi-pd7be]

Why do you think the writers chose this character for this storyline? Since she starts with such a conflicting storyline, I assume it's a decision they made later on right? So why her of all actors if not because she is very androgynous and gender non conforming? That's exactly why, and it's to send a message.

[@tuesings]

Damn. Glee had neopronouns. I love this show

[@cjck1344]

As a trans man this whole storyline was so out of nowhere and unnecessary. I liked Bieste as they were

[@billysobolik]

This was disappointing, not because the character shouldn't be who they are, but because the whole point of this character was to break the norms of what "femininity" means. Making the character trans was too easy and obvious, and made him no longer serve as a representation of tomboys. I liked that Beiste was originally purely a proud female, just in an untradotional way, because it broke beauty standards for girls who look different.

[@kimconnors2798]

when are you going to do 40 Songs Glee Should Have Covered Part 54?

[@moonlight_sparkle6659]

I'm all for the storyline with Unique since she was trans to begin with but why Beiste? When Beiste was a woman, she was strong, independent and confident with herself and never tried to fit in as "one of the boys." Why did she get a storyline about being trans? It never made sense to me and just felt like the writers pulled it out of their asses JUST for the ratings and used it as some plot twist that was never needed, it always felt rushed and forced upon as if she was always secretly trans. I don't remember her saying anything in past seasons where she was uncomfortable with who she was and her gender. There's no such thing as a tomboy or masculine woman in the show's universe? Some of the shit they've pulled was stupid and pointless but this one takes the damn cake. Like I said, Unique's story was different since she was trans the very first time we met her but Beiste's just felt... weird.

[@hannahvance3798]

love this

[@conniekreese7165]

The only sad quibble before the trans thing bestie was a character that challenges what society says a woman should be or how beautiful they can be inspire of not fitting a mold her abuse storyline was powerful that even strong women can be abused and her self worth she reclaimed idk but this story maybe helped other ppl

[@brokenstar6395]

I love Glee so much but like..... he was always talking about how he wanted to be a “pretty girl” and be an independent woman..... it’s obvious they did this just for a twist OR to say they support the trans community. (I respect this show very much and I love the casting)

[@WhyfallinLUVwhenUcanfallasleep]

Bྂrྂoྂkྂeྂnྂ Sྂtྂaྂrྂ i understand that from a gleek point of view but if we acknowledge Beiste as a reason person then we much respect his evolution.

[@ricardahernandez7165]

How did Finn die (in show)

[@Blast2224]

They never gave an explicit reason. They simply killed Finn off and had the actors show the aftermath. If they alluded to his death via drug use, it probably would have made Finn seem less desirable. And insensitive to Lea and Finn's family who was still in mourning.

[@amymelton4782]

I'm actually mad they did this. It just didnt make sense. Beiste had said she just wanted to feel pretty and that was the great thing about her was that she was a tough, masculine but beautiful woman.

[@saracoutinho3398]

I'm going to pretend that season 6 (I just like a few episodes) doesn't exist because what the fuck was this storyline?

[@yergirlsarah5552]

I thought they did this because the actor came out as trans. But I specifically remember when Sheldon asked out will as Shannon, he said “you made me feel like a girl.” So they just kind of undid that? Unless they tried to make Sue their masculine female on the show, but if that’s the case why is there only one masculine female? Idk

[@KatLovin]

Dot Marie Jones is not trans. She was apparently surprised when the writers told her that Beiste was going to be a trans man.

[@alexandriaa44]

Beistes character wasn’t suppose to be a stereotype! & I hate that some people see it that way.. her female character was actually quite feminine & the fact you’re assuming it wasn’t just bc she was a coach & looked manly is more insulting.. she even expresses that in the coming out episode.. if glee was trying to say that if you’re more masculine or feminine then you gotta be trans then they would’ve had Sue & Kurt come out as trans a long time ago loll beiste is her own person masculine or not anybody can be who they want to be.

[@Pingaheimer]

it's jim belushi lmfao

[@damionluna4426]

Real men done cry sam 😶

[@coltonmartin5057]

Y'all complaining about character consistency......in glee??????

[@milespotje4357]

This is a great storyline, however I think it should only be done if the actor is going through transition. Otherwise it feels shallow and just snuck in. It’d be much better for them to introduce a trans male character to replace this character or something similar

[@joeshuler2886]

We can’t all. Agree on trans issues but I like this character. I mean, who can’t support him.

[@phyllismartin674]

Did I see hair poking out of a colar?

[@rosericorico4980]

YAASSSS

[@Mushruums]

The pronouns Sam found lol. Shahe

[@marilealouise3953]

This was one of the worst plotlines Glee has ever come up with. They ruined Bieste's character and charm....

[@timothygouldjr8384]

I don’t like season 6 that much but I thought beste looked better as a male

[@wolepyro9779]

I was so confuse with this episode

[@theviolethole4071]

Just want to point out That sheldons actor is trans, thats the only reason they changed the storyline

[@JuliaDelbel]

not true

[@Abi-pd7be]

Shes not. Not every androgynous person is trans

[@saniret9252]

I don't understand

[@saniret9252]

@Ale Mar I think it would rather be Gender dysphoria.

[@apersonexisting09]

1:28 babe no

[@seirrasky3581]

They wanted to add in more diversity and inclusivity in the show but instead of writing up a character with a more organic story line as a transgendered person, they took the easy way out and gave the masculine woman a beard. Despite the fact the she balled and stayed in an abusive marriage because she desperately wanted to be treated like a lady.

[@Kinship1]

She was great as a non feminine women. Transing her was awful. It reenforces the sterotype that women have to be a certain way or they must not be women at all.

[@maemars9026]

'It' is not a pronoun for anyone, regardless of their chosen gender identity.

[@starrysebbie]

It doesn’t matter if the trans Beiste storyline doesn’t make sense! Just accept the fact that Sheldon is a lovely man and move on. Jeez.

[@bibaolaitan5189]

Worst storyline ever.. just ruined a good character

[@unagi7143]

she was my least favorite character

[@glowsticofdestiny9460]

I don't like this now i have nothing against LGBT community (my friend is is bisexual) but I liked beaste the way (s)he was. a tough woman who didn't give a @#$&

[@timothygouldjr8384]

Lol I didn’t like s6 but I thought beiste looked better as a male

[@emsiepker7475]

You guys know that they transitioned in real life right?

[@amberburke9576]

No they didn't. The actress who plays coach beiste is still a woman.

[@corberus3119]

no she didn't, she's just a masculine lesbian in real life

[@KatLovin]

False. Dot-Marie Jones is a cis-gendered woman.