Glee - Kitty Tells Ryder That She Was Also Molested 4x20

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[@amber97309]

I never understood why they moved on with this so quickly. It was brief, and such a heavy subject was not discussed more after the horror things they said about him being abused.

[@monique3984]

yeah and they handled it poorly by not giving repurcussiong to glee members that made fun of ryder's abuse when he opened up or making them grow from their insensitive comments.

[@blub7449]

Everything that happened to kitty or kitty did, didn’t even discuss by the show. Like the thing with Marley. i am so mad about this. I hope u understand what i am trying to say. I am not really good at english.

[@leilaletaief4038]

@@blub7449 Hi, there is a deleted scene somewhere of Kitty apologising to Marley after she collapses. It really helps with seeing Kitty's character growth, I'm sure if you search KZbin you can find it x

[@jpierce8148]

Because Glee was one of the worst written shows in this generation. Now awarded to Legacies on CW lol

[@jostenfranklin4493]

just like the shooting that they never talked about again i swear the writers just get bored sometimes

[@sarahwalter7198]

Well props to glee for taking on subjects like this

[@idkidc2290]

Ariana’s Bibble they wrote it in like that because that’s how society treats men when there molested by women.

[@LadyDynamitez]

@Ariana’s Bibble Agree. I hated those later seasons and that was one of the many reasons why

[@ellenshawkelly66]

@Ariana’s Bibble Schuster sang a song about a teacher falling in love wit a student to Rachel bjt changed like 4 words

[@gillianmccolm657]

... and completely fucking it up.

[@BabyBunnyBlues]

As a victim I feel like for the most part they handled it poorly..mainly because it never stayed consistent, like it was never acknowledged ever again as if that trauma doesn’t last a lifetime

[@knowledgegathererdraftsave1979]

A lot of you might think that Kitty showed a more softer side of herself from dating Artie, but I really think it was this scene with Ryder where she opened up and revealed why she’s so head strong and pushing people around and away. I actually can’t believe after she shared her pain with Ryder and empathised with him here that she went to dating Artie especially after how he reacted to Ryder’s secret.

[@idc4163]

KnowledgeGatherer DraftSaver I know! I always shipped her with Ryder. They understood and could support each other.

[@devon1777]

i always really wanted to like her but her giving marley an eating disorder made that really hard to do

[@candleblaise]

Devyn Rayne she didn't give Marley an eating disorder. Kitty helped it along a little but the biggest factor in Marley's eating disorder was her mother. She was raised by a morbidly obese woman with a raging eating disorder of her own. There was always a very high probability Marley would develop one as well. People raised by alcoholics very often either become one themselves or never drink at all for fear of becoming an alcoholic, food issues aren't much different.

[@doyouhavefood2041]

KnowledgeGatherer DraftSaver True!

[@bunny7799]

ikr, i think all of the member of glee club ryder is the only that kitty talk openly like this, idk if artie too but we got this scene

[@cureshagriffin6211]

So no body never mentioned that puck was dating a high school girl I can't believe glee got away with that

[@moonlight_sparkle6659]

Eerily similar to his real life counterpart, I think they knew and put it in there without thinking too much of it

[@treyoftriphorya]

Or Sam dating a faculty member that would actually result in not only her getting fired but arrested. It’s kind of like how the writers for De Grassi thought it was normal to write a story where page who was 16 was dating her 30 year old teacher

[@BeccaFaye]

@@treyoftriphorya They didn't think it was normal though. Manny found out, squealed on them because she knew it was wrong, and then the teacher got fired. I think a better example for your point would be Ezra and Aria from Pretty Little Liars (I don't know if Ezra ever suffered consequences for dating a student because I didn't watch the show but I know they ended up being end game so even if he did, those were kind of negated lol)

[@MissPumpkin91]

I think it was because in canon he was like 18 and kitty 16, so it was two years of difference (I think, but I'm not really sure) even tho he looked like he was in his mid 30s; tho it doesnt make it ok but at least is not thaaaan creepy as when Puck "dated" with Rachel's mom

[@parkthepenguin6344]

@@MissPumpkin91 if it’s a three year difference it’s legal I think???

[@magsc3278]

I hate the way the guys didn’t understand Ryder’s pain like if he wanted it to happen it would of been his dream but he didn’t want it to happen so it was a nightmare he wanted them to help but all they did was say that they would have loved it but imagine that 11 yr old Ryder not being able to tell his parent that his BABYSITTER molested him like he still can’t trust girls and they have the nerve to say that it was nothing also HELLA respect for kitty now so yass

[@blackcanary4222]

I also hate the fact that there were no consequences to their actions. It was just swept under the rug like it was nothing

[@Apple-qo3uw]

@@blackcanary4222 well, that's sadly what happens most of the times, the abusers get away. There would be no more physical evidence now after years so even if they did try to go to the police nothing would be done

[@DashawnLoves]

@@Apple-qo3uw they're talking about Artie and Sam not facing any grand repercussions for their horrible mentality and reaction to his story. Mr.shue literally threw a fit for Marley not wearing a bikini but barely said anything about them disrespecting an assault victim.

[@bellagrace3281]

@@blackcanary4222 he revealed that she got arrested after doing it to another kid so thank god for that

[@blackcanary4222]

@@bellagrace3281 i was talking about sam and artie making fun of the situation. Ik the babysitter got arrested

[@alexcontianos8934]

who deserves better: them

[@davidbasa9985]

BroadwayDarlin16 fr💀💀💀

[@hayl3y432]

Who deserves better: the whole cast of season 4 newbies

[@carter010]

@@hayl3y432 I was just about to say that

[@alesiaclaudina]

Either it was this episode or shooting star that I gained mad respect for Kitty, having to go through something like that is awful and it brought out her soft side and she opened up.

[@camilaslauren]

Orla O'Connor why did you lose respect?

[@camilaslauren]

Orla O'Connor how on earth would you know that? and why would she make it up?

[@camilaslauren]

Orla O'Connor 1. pathological liar? how? 2. she quite clearly wasn’t happy.

[@camilaslauren]

Orla O'Connor you’re fucking delusional

[@rosemenon]

I’ve always hated Kitty, but this scene made me hate her a lot less.

[@aileean19]

Orla O'Connor How ?

[@ranadavulcu5090]

Orla O'Connor how do you know she was lying and that’s really messed up it’s like telling a rape victim ur lying you don’t know cause you weren’t there shut up I’m literally crying because your living proof society still has horrible people

[@winehouselover]

Orla O'Connor she says things like that all the time. It’s who she is; sarcastic and snarky. That doesn’t mean that she wasn’t sexually abused. That claim is retarded in itself. Are you one of the writers? Do you have access to the script? You’re so busy hating her to take in what she’s saying which begins to explain how she turned up this way. She literally said “pretend” to be all slutty. Take the pole out of your ass and try not to get too pressed over a fictional character

[@Manuel-px9lc]

@Orla O'Connor are you seriously saying people who were sexually assaulted can't make jokes or enjoy their sexuality later in their life?

[@kjxnz]

Rose Menon oof I love her maybe it’s because she stuck around for so long

[@bambirose6490]

Shit this breaks my heart, I never really liked her as a character and didn’t continue on with the rest of the season when the new generation of Glee Club emerged but craaap, this gives me a whole new take on her.

[@connordavis1094]

@Callie 😂😂😂

[@mialarsson4972]

Me during the very first scene with Kitty: There is NOTHING this girl can say or anything the writers can reveal about her that could make me like her! Me after this scene: Well, shit ... (puts up a Kitty poster)

[@hayl3y432]

*changes Kitty to top of the tier list*

[@danidkg4071]

I never liked kitty (lets not forget she gave Marley an eating disorder), but this was very honest and real. The show should’ve taken this story more seriously and I hate how the other male characters just never learn anything???? Like, sure sometimes people don’t change, but the whole “hahaaa a young boy getting touched by an older woman is cool” idea is so toxic and damaging that the other characters should’ve really learned something. Especially for Sam, since he was a CHILD STRIPPER.

[@scottdecker9115]

I only wish Kitty would have shared this with Marley and explained that she too was bullied and forced to transfer to another school. I honestly feel that although their relationship was healed in the aftermath of the school shooting, this would definitely have brought them closer together as friends.

[@joelle3273]

na, kitty doesn’t deserve marley’s friendship after what she did to her.

[@CinnamonSox]

If I was Marley, I would have just laughed at her

[@mayaleeleng]

@@CinnamonSox Damn 💀

[@jokerzbabe13]

Thanks Glee for actually taking this subject pretty seriously, instead of making a joke out of it. Mad respect.

[@alvinseville853]

#Abuseisnolaughingmatter

[@tatumkops2096]

Glee doesn’t make any sense some times, but with the serious stuff the writers do a pretty good job

[@duzztin31]

One of the few good episodes from season 4.

[@kevkpatt]

I think i really liked kitty after this episode

[@Chickennoodle72]

@Callie yes he/she is ignorant but you don't have to say this kind of shit

[@literallyalyssa5722]

what did that person that everyone is attacking say

[@agamamos282]

@@literallyalyssa5722 he said that Kitty lied about being molested and she is a pathological liar and that we're dumb if we respect a character like that and he also said that she lied because she smiledin the video and if she really was molested than she was happy about it

[@hopoffmydick9574]

idk, i still can't forgive her for what she did to Marley, but I get what you mean, it was a nice moment.

[@kevkpatt]

Alyssa Plays Roblox i only like positivity comments

[@humsss]

I feel like Kitty comes off as the cliche basic white girl but she really developed as a character. I used to hate her with a passion cause of how mean she was to Marley but now shes my favorite character. She really just pretends not to care about anything but you can tell she is seeking validation. When she said that Julie told all her friends to stop talking to her i related cause there was this one bitchass in elementary school who randomly told all my friends to stop talking to me. Everyone was ignoring me for no reason. I realised she mustve been jealous or smth (idk why) and i stopped tryinf to talk to them. I found some new friends and then 2 weeks later she asked me why i dont talk to her anymore. She said that they were all just joking around and i flipped her off and walked away. Best day of my life lol.

[@bla_xoxo8875]

what kitty went through is exactly what happened to me but i was blessed that my friend stood by my side and fought for me 😭🥺❤️

[@johnrainsman6650]

I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope the scumbag is in jail. If I knew you personally and you told me what happened, I'd have fought for you too. Probably would've slapped him in the face (uh, depending on how old he was), to give him a taste of his own medicine before reporting him.

[@rydbthatsme]

This whole conversation is so deep and wasn’t explored enough.

[@raellmoreland2373]

They’re so brave

[@softchad5536]

This scene hit home way too hard. This whole episode did. I cried through the entire thing. Never feel like you are alone. Because you're not. Stay strong. The right people will always come along to help you through anything. 💜

[@kiasheard1703]

I was not expecting it at all, and then I heard Ryder first and I was like damn, then I heard kitty and I started balling. I wish glee actually spoke about it instead of moving on and never speaking of it again

[@lizziecross8149]

My brother’s friend molested me, and I had a very similar feeling after. For years, I didn’t tell my parents. I only told my mom when I finally felt too guilty about lying to her about it. I had waited years to tell my mom, though, so the boy never was confronted, and I still had to see him sometimes when he and my brother hung out.

[@johnrainsman6650]

Oh, man...tell me, what's the update now? Maybe I can give advice.

[@ParisMahone-vn8re]

I am so sorry that happened to you

[@myajanette]

I totally forgot about this scene. It was so sad. To anyone who’s gone through this or is going through this, it will get better, I swear. There are hotlines and resources for help. You’re not alone. And it’s okay if you don’t want to tell anyone, but just know you can. It’s not your fault. You are not alone.🤍

[@itsmebitch1838]

thank you for uploading this scene!

[@yasminesalem480]

i ship them bc they understand each other, and went thru the same thing at the same age

[@gabriellazevallos5694]

watching this the first time I hoped kitty and ryder would get together but now i’m realizing that it was so important that there was no feelings here, and that they just understood each other and bounded without romance

[@bunny7799]

still confused why ryan dont pair them

[@rosierennie5867]

Because we dont want Quinn and Finn 2.0

[@masonguthrie1257]

@@rosierennie5867 I mean this is a bit different then Finn and Quinn so I think I would have liked it the most out of the new couples

[@ArtIsDrawing]

@@rosierennie5867 this is Sam and Quinn...

[@mikelee-pw2cy]

Seeing Kitty so Vulnerable and sweet and considerate reminds me of this song soft kitty warm kitty little ball of fur happy kitty sleepy kitty pur pur pur

[@mademotions1754]

i cried when i watched this, i was molested when i was 7 and a few days ago my little brother was molested. glad they talked about it a little.

[@johnrainsman6650]

Im sorry you went through this. I recommend Joel Osteen on KZbin

[@jmerose]

I'm sorry that happened to you and your brother. Some advice, please get into therapy. I wish I did when I was younger. Being 28 now, all my trauma from when I was younger is hitting me harder then I could of ever expected. Your body holds the stress, and now after everything I've been through, my aniexty is at an all time high. And I dont mean sudden panic here and there. I mean full blown panic attacks for NO reason. It's the most frustrating thing in the world, but I learned I cant bottle everything up. Even if you dont wanna talk about that right away with a therapist I def recommend speaking to some until you find a good one you feel comfortable with!

[@johnrainsman6650]

@@jmerose I'm sorry you go through constant panic attacks. Are you talking to a doctor about them?

[@jmerose]

@@johnrainsman6650 it's ok, I'm learning how to cope. & yes I am. I'm working on figuring out how to deal with it all. It was just so frustrating at first having them and not knowing why they were happening. It's still frustrating but the fact that I am learning about everything helps!

[@johnrainsman6650]

@@jmerose maybe watch Joel osteen on KZbin. Could help

[@stefanygutierrez871]

Clicked on this so fast ♥️♥️♥️

[@themr.wchannel7687]

2:27 Aww 😭😭😭😭😭

[@hannahwilliams5681]

Thank you

[@selenawasurick6575]

Poor kitty

[@agamamos282]

@Orla O'Connor sude you're in all the comments section! Shut the fuck up!! You annoying me so much! Who the fuck are you to decide she wasn't really molested?! And I know she said she was a pathological liar but I read about it and their lies aren't going that far!!

[@agamamos282]

@Orla O'Connor so you can keep hating her but half of us love her so don't try to fucking change our opinions!!!

[@agamamos282]

@Callie agree.

[@JaceChoi7]

When I started to open up about season 4, I really was expecting Ryder and Kitty to date after I watched this scene because damn, that's something to connect so much about.

[@nattybobatty4272]

I really wish these two could have been a thing. They had something going right here.

[@cnleiva]

Too bad he was beating Melissa Benoist the whole time

[@signebuhlandersen8566]

exactly

[@hayl3y432]

When I found about this I couldn't watch season 4 or 5 at first im glad that Melissa is happy now with a child

[@user-gs7lv2ng1m]

He didn’t beat her. He threw a phone at her. I’m not saying that was right but they both were unhealthy for each other. She was too controlling over him and he lashed out at her.

[@samanthasims7123]

Wait whst

[@Melisadudley]

@@user-gs7lv2ng1m that doesn’t give him the excuse to hurt her physically… he gave her bruises… that sounds beaten to me.

[@rebeccakeele7541]

I was never allowed to have sleepovers as a kid, and when I asked my mom she said it was because I had brothers living at home and she never wanted there to be any question. It took a long time for me to understand what she meant. My brothers are great guys my mom just never wanted to put anyone (them included) in a situation where there was a "he said she said"

[@albinocadillac]

Wow. I could never be as open as she was

[@emilyfelfoldi3169]

This is so honest and raw 😢🥺

[@ep8246]

Omg. Poor souls.Good that They found support in one another

[@marcosszimmermann]

The others scenes when she was mean, i didnt fing her pretty to me. But after watching this scene im in love with her. And with this scene i fall more in love with Ryder 😍.

[@mikaylabarajas4113]

They should have been together! 😭😭

[@outspoken5808]

this was like 3 seasons worth of character growth in three minutes... And they still did nothing with it

[@jacobmaguire2707]

i hated Kitty at the start bc of the mean things she did but by season 6 i flipping loved her she had a lot of development from being a strong bully who gave someone an eating disorder to her opening up and seeing a softer and friendlier side after joining the glee club and im so glad she stayed in season 6 unlike the others bc she was one of my favorites by then

[@AgnesOfWonderland]

I may not consider Kitty the best character, but the situation she has gone through must have been a living nightmare, and just like every human being, she didn't deserve it. I think it's because of this trauma that she became so mean, and hated by the viewers (including myself, honestly).

[@petramorgan6255]

I kind of wish they had hooked up.

[@bellamyershannibal]

So does Kitty have teeth guarding her cervix?

[@elsiecreations9974]

Yes, metaphorically she does. There is a condition called vaginismus in which the vagina tightens up to the point where nothing can get in, not even a tampon. This happens to many women who have been sexually abused or assaulted.

[@shaunascott643]

now that I know what it means I can say I have that cuz I was raped when I was 7 by my mom's boyfriend at the time and when I did a papsmer I was really sensitive down there I couldn't go through with it

[@winehouselover]

aight kool woah 9 minutes ago u commented I was shook. I thought the most recent viewer would be like a month ago. And I agree. Shauna you’re very strong and he will get what he deserves

[@ameliepalmer5416]

Shauna Scott i’m so sorry. i hope you are recovering you are so strong

[@ifeelpretty5790]

Shauna Scott I know this is a year old but just wanted to let you know that we hear you, we see you, and we believe you. Stay strong survivor 👍❤️

[@shainarobb5473]

I understand kitty Wilde thank you for sharing your story Rebecca grace Tobin Good thing that you are not alone anymore because you can feel so much more free

[@jonesy_5498]

Kitty is one of my favorite characters ever

[@Isabella-bk5lc]

Damn almost half a day late 😂

[@ariree3216]

Honestly I loved this scene because when I was molested when I was young I felt the same exact way. Too afriad to tell my parents and it took me 10 years to finally open up about it

[@johnrainsman6650]

Im sorry you went through this. I recommend Joel Osteen on KZbin

[@amya7688]

It's great when you finally open up and your mom blows up at you about how you should have told because what if he did that to some other girl? She didn't seem to care about what he'd done to me. I didn't ever say anything else about it.

[@johnrainsman6650]

@@amya7688 Oh, man, that's terrible. Who was this he? And for the record, I'm on your side. Nothing is your fault.

[@timothygouldjr8384]

Ryder and kitty would’ve been a good couple

[@brettkimura]

@ Glee Scenes, Can you please add the scene of Karofsky from 6x12?

[@judithmcnulty3368]

Is it bad that I ship these two

[@msfriendsfan4ever788]

No,i ship them too

[@larajeansong6634]

There’s nothing romantic between them in my opinion. I think it’s a platonic connection.

[@frzera04]

Hi can you add the scene where Rachel caught the bouquet from Will’s wedding episode.

[@scottdecker9115]

1:28- It looks like Kitty's trying very hard not to cry.

[@gabimartinez2873]

❤❤❤

[@rebeccaprice4452]

yea

[@aimeehys4875]

How sad

[@catherinemaggot3184]

It took me almost 10 years to tell my parents

[@johnrainsman6650]

Im sorry you went through this. I recommend Joel Osteen on KZbin

[@emilymay0412]

Kitty is the exact same as Santana ... AND I LOVE IT

[@alisonmaczko]

Am I the only person that likes the new generation of glee a lot?

[@mncdssctn9110]

Kitty was the only one I liked. Although the newbies in season 6 was much better since they were a bit more different instead of just being inferior carbon copies of the original.

[@rcj.19]

I can’t believe they made Kitty date Artie after this, especially after what he said to Ryder.

[@LaMonicaHill]

I remember whenever *Ryder* revealed what happened to him and what some of them said really made me upset

[@itzhope3787]

It hits hard when this was how you realized this happened to you

[@uravirginwhocantdrive1400]

Of all the new characters (after season 3) Kitty was the best of them.

[@pythini]

Is it just me or does she sound similar to Quinn

[@emilymay0412]

She sounds similar to Quinn, and acts similarly to Santana, and looks similar to Brittany. She IS the unholy trinity as a person😂

[@leah2341]

I pray that jesus covers you go through this and continues to cover you as you go through this and anyone else going through this too, jesus knows what your going through, i pray that you trust and believe in the lord,god bless you xxxPrayers go out to the people and their families going through this and And you and your family and friends too x

[@shooketh587]

Ok i need to stop skipping episodes like i missed like sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many episodes cause i feel like i dont need to watch them but wow

[@nyx.8254]

It really bothers me that they never addressed the other guys behaviour

[@johnrainsman6650]

You mean, when they never confronted or arrested the brother?

[@blessingbutler]

And this is why I don't let my kids sleep overnight places.

[@Nax_uthala]

I know that this is a really serious moment, but was the spaghetti plated like a smiley face?

[@lucylove1155]

Bruh so her would’ve happened a year before the year in season 1 that’s crazy

[@alleyjohnson484]

I ship them

[@mariarojas7880]

I know what is like... and I wish I could erase it from my mind, sadly u gotta live with every memory even the worst ones, I always identified myself with kitty, I even act like her, idk when people see u take no shit, it's wayyy easier.

[@tenny6020]

Totally off topic and I'm not joking, if you're taking a crap and clicked on this video and watched it all, you may or may not feel very uncomfortable.

[@khaliaward1771]

0:32 CHANEL #5 WHO?????

[@connie_83]

I always hated Kitty and I still do but this scene definitely made me hate her a lot less. I wish they didn't move on from this so fast and I wished they built on this storyline more

[@CinnamonSox]

This scene made me hate her more

[@NickKastner]

Thank you Kitty doing right thing with Ryder been catfish online texting I.M can.t stand him Ryder cheating with Marley his boyfriend Jake just saying is gonna out the hand Kitty not really Nice 1st place with her right now are team now to win this no one trust him just pushing by A K A wade stop calling dude is not cool

[@Nightswarmer]

Yeah, no.. I still can't stand Kitty.. I don't care if she got abused, it gives her NO right to abuse others.. And yes, I do consider Kitty emotionally manipulating Marley into eating disorder ABUSE.. Most people that do the abusing, are themselves victim of abuse, but I don't think that's a valid reason to take that out on someone else.. I bet the people that abused Kitty and Ryder were themselves victims of abuse, because it's a horrible, horrible circle of awful.. What happened to Kitty is horrible and I think no child or adult deserved that, but I just don't think that justified the way she acts..

[@justinmoore3217]

Are they going to start singing Lady Gaga or something now

[@LuffaSoad]

Why is she at a restaurant in her cheerleading outfit?

[@AmeliaPond1994]

This is Glee. A show that sometimes strays so far from reality you often can't tell if you're watching a fantasy or a high-school drama.

[@Zayraxc]

You must not be a gleek

[@clauudia323]

@@AmeliaPond1994 It's a comedy-musical show,not a drama lol

[@AmeliaPond1994]

actually it's a comedy drama with a lot of singing. despite the jokes there were a lot of serious topics explored during it's run time.

[@TequilaMockingBird91]

Marc Flink Samuelsson it’s one of Coach Sylvester’s rules. She forces all her Cheerios to wear the uniform everywhere, even outside of school, in restaurants, at home, in church, etc. they are literally Cheerios for life

[@moreheart3252]

This has nothing to do with the video or the program. I'm not a English speaker and i didn't know what molested mean, in another places we said it "Violado/a" and i though that in english would be "violeted" or something like that, so i don't know is that word exist or not or mean something else. So is someone could explain me, i would be very grateful

[@sofiab2600]

it exists and means the same, i'm not an Englis speaker too so I get it lol, also you can say raped.

[@moreheart3252]

@@sofiab2600 thanks

[@sheilabbz]

Violated is the word you’re referring to. They are not the same but close enough.

[@ladiabla4841]

People who's been raped aint no joke that shits real ASF ik cause I was raped when I was 8 by my mom's ex bf

[@pascalledahmes6981]

Why were they sleeping in the basement?

[@eviekenyon574]

Could’ve been one of those basements where it’s kinda like a second sitting room/bedroom and maybe the sleepover had a ton of people so they all slept in there

[@CinnamonSox]

I hated Kitty even more after watching this

[@rosericorico4980]

I'm sorry to be that person but 420!!

[@rowan1411]

She’s literally so fucked up. I get that she went through something horrible. I’ve been through it and others have too. Yet that doesn’t give us the right to fuck with other people.

[@crazedwrestlinginc]

and this episode made me dislike sam and artie for a brief moment, for them to wonder why ryder didnt enjoy being touched inappropriately disgusted me

[@cmdub97]

This subject isn't covered enough these days, but after hearing how he treated his ex in real life, I can't ever watch a scene with him in it and not cringe. He excuses his behavior by saying he has been abused and even if he were that level of violence will never be okay.

[@sophieissac2742]

RYDER 💖💖💖

[@oliviablumke1303]

ok i hate ryder more than anybody in glee but i can’t help but feel bad for him here

[@mxn4719]

I know a lot of people hate Ryder… but can I ask why? Not for hate or anything similar. I’m just genuinely confused

[@maryxxam7400]

@@mxn4719 the actor abused the actress for Marley during their relationship and I’m assuming that’s why so many dislike him

[@mxn4719]

@@maryxxam7400 yeah I know. Many people do know how to separate actor to character though, or specifically bl*ke to Ryder. I know why people dislike him now though, they thought his character was boring or they disliked the love triangle storyline.

[@komaedanagito1275]

My question is why are they talking about this in public rather than private

[@CinnamonSox]

Because she's an attention seeking little liar

[@robobow9734]

1up

[@trailee3197]

Abuser! #IStandWithMelissa

[@jessicaf1576]

She tries to hard to be like Santana