Glenn Greenwald: The war on free speech

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

Greenwald is impressively consistent when it comes to free speech, unlike some 'conservatives' who unfortunately make exceptions for speech about Israel.

[@Silence_Duder_Gooder]

Yeah, those people are _extremely_ FOS.

[@fastingman4726]

Yeah and that is Ben Shapiro

[@MaxwellPowers666]

Meghan Kelly is such a free speech hypocrite. She should be on a real housewives show. She's such a fake caddy bitch

[@rykwon4535]

@@fastingman4726Bari Weiss is a fraud too

[@escapetheratracenow9883]

I'm surprised your post escaped the attention of the You Tube Deletion Squad.

[@donnagaffney6467]

Glenn Greenwald always makes great sense & always bring the receipts

[@gerhard7323]

GG talks the talk AND, far more importantly, continues to walk the walk. Bravo, Glen.

[@FrancoisMouton-iu7jt]

Totally agree with Glen.

[@miophx8283]

Thank you for bringing on Glenn Greewald. He's a very important alternative news voice.

[@Macro-Mark]

Greenwald is one of the few principled journalists around.

[@twelfthhour]

Maybe you missed his insane defense of Andrew Huberman

[@theamericandream5917]

Glenn is the last of a dying breed. If only more journalists had integrity like him our society wouldn’t be such a shit show it is now.

[@slappyfun]

His principles have proven to be very consistent. Love Glenn. A truly trustworthy source.

[@Silence_Duder_Gooder]

@@twelfthhour, hey, even Babe Ruth only hit .300, and he's in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame.

[@Silence_Duder_Gooder]

@@theamericandream5917, oh, there _are_ more. Like Chris Hedges. Robert Scheer. Max Blumenthal. Aaron Maté. Gabor Maté. John Pilger. Anya Parampil. Greg Palast. Sy Hersh. Whitney Webb. Abby Martin. Lee Fang. Matt Taibbi. Michael Shellenberger. Lee Camp. Tyler Ventura. Jesse Ventura. Keaton Weiss. Jimmy Dore. Joe Rogan. Russell Dobular. Russell Brand. Just to name a few. 😁

[@tayoukachukwu3105]

This is one of the best 40 mins discussion on respect for free speech and tolerance in a pluralistic society that I have listened to. Very insightful and should be heard by billions. Thanks for inviting and talking to Glenn. In recent times, he has become one of my most trusted journalists and one of the most consistent defenders of the rights to free speech and association. Glenn helped me to see the inconsistencies of many conservatives and right wing influencers as regards defending the rights to free speech and association. Glenn has also been consistent in fighting the neocons and warmongers in the US and the world at large. We need more peace and less wars in this world and Glenn has been on the right side of history. He, Michael S., Saggar of BP, and a few others have truly been more consistent defenders of the rights to free speech and association and hope you guys continue to work together. We need more defenders now more than ever. Keep it up👏👏👏👏👏

[@scillyautomatic]

We should be shouting from the rooftops: NO ONE should be "protecting" us from misinformation. Anyone who claims to do so is, themselves, participating in Mis, Dis or Mal information.

[@robertholland7558]

“ mis/dis/mal information“ are new terms that did not existed a few decades ago. Information was alway considered incomplete or not considered within context.

[@lagringa7518]

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[@ganpik]

The word "rooftops" reminds me of Hamas.

[@ywtcc]

Journalism dies without journalists policing bad journalism. Science and academics also die without scientists and academics policing bad science and academics. These endeavors are a direct result of a concerted effort to fight misinformation. I think you need to develop more sophisticated ideas of information policing. The ideas you have ultimately amount to looking the other way while the frauds take over. Think about transparency, accountability, and relying on sister organizations around the world, to establish integrity in these fields. I think if you had better critical thinking education you'd have better solutions to epistemic problems.

[@scillyautomatic]

@@ywtcc so in short, you're saying "Protect me harder, Big Brother!". I would ask you to point out what you think is wrong with stopping the "misinformation experts but it seems you ACTUALLY believe that you can trust someone to protect you from misinfo. Clearly you have not thought thru this.

[@timeisfleeting2452]

I don't class this gentleman with journalists. They are a dishonest and career oriented lot. Glenn is something else. A powerful truth teller. One of the few writers I absolutely trust. It's not a left or right thing. It's an integrity thing, and a courage thing. Greenwald has that in spades. We need a new word for people like that. Long live GG!

[@herzchen666]

Freddie and Glenn are both absolutely invited to my fantasy dinner party! Glenn is one of my favorite people currently alive whom I don't personally know. Namaste.

[@organboi]

May I attend too? Except I'm a bit scared of your screen name.

[@felixmoyoedonmi]

There is no limit to free speech. One can choose not to listen but one cannot prevent the speaker from speaking.

[@ywtcc]

You can ignore, but you can't choose not to listen. Ears don't work like that. Also, ignorance has its limits. Ignore cries for help, or claims of fraud, and you can get yourself thrown in jail for that. Speech around business contracts, consensual romantic relationships, matters of the court and legislature, are all highly regulated. I agree there should be a forum where speech is truly free - but that same forum is a place where speech can't be taken seriously. There's a give and take here. Do you want to be taken seriously? Then you need to accept accountability for abusing speech. Rights come in conflict with each other, and speech is often the right that's the most civilized right to curtail.

[@felixmoyoedonmi]

​@ywtcc If I choose to speak, I simply speak. I don't care if no one listens. If I choose not to listen, I simply don't listen. I don't care who is speaking. FREEDOM is sacrosanct, and unless the individual is free, he can not claim to be living.

[@paulmoulton7248]

Devils Advocate: Tik Tok is basically a propaganda tool to influence Western kids via destructive algorithms. How should that be treated?

[@fredgarvinMP]

@@paulmoulton7248 TikTok has the right to defend itself.

[@fredgarvinMP]

@@nirguna17 In the United States screaming in someone's face is a crime as is ordering a hit but the other stuff if you feel wronged by your only recourse is to sue the person in civil court.

[@wgcar]

Thanks!

[@macgp44]

Greenwald is one of a small group of American journalists I strongly trust. He has integrity. Mainstream media doesn't.

[@kraka2oanIner]

Yup, there are others: Julian Assange, Abby Martin, Kim Iversen, Jimmy Dore, Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal, and Norman Finkelstein... and others, whom I can't remember at the moment.

[@marionreynolds7080]

Glenn Greenwald speaks truth to power. He’s unremittingly courageous, an enormous intellect, oozing integrity. He’s a saint.

[@CLCL748]

Glenn is a true free speech absolutist and I totally agree with him. Free speech is non negotiable. The minute you start making exceptions, it’s a very slippery slope and free speech is under the bus.

[@ywtcc]

It's a completely dysfunctional position he's taking. The kind of freedom of speech that's practiced in America is apparently compatible with a total absence of credible journalism. It's compatible with fraudulent economics, and fraudulent psychology. It's compatible with local governments denying all rights to the homeless, for example. American Liberalism is 100% compatible with slavery. It's a defunct ideology that's been repeatedly refuted, and effectively made unconstitutional with the civil war amendments. You want to know what the actual issue is? Your rights aren't worth anything unless you're willing to hold public officials accountable for denying them. They're also not worth anything if public officials have granted themselves the right to ignore anyone without an attorney. Liberal rights are not a new thing. Start talking about holding public officials accountable, and you'll make those rights accessible to the people that actually need them. Don't look for political wisdom from American Liberals and Libertarians. They're routinely in violation of their own laws, and without rule of law, you don't have any protecting against rights abuses whatsoever.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

There is no such thing as a "free speech absolutist." This is an epithet intended to throw shade on true advocates of First Amendment law.

[@squatch545]

He's not a free speech absolutist. He supports defamation laws.

[@CLCL748]

@@squatch545Free speech protects all opinions while defamation is defined as a statement of fact that happens to be false. So you can be a free speech absolutist (in favor of protecting all opinions) and support defamation laws (laws against false facts presented as true). Two different things.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@CLCL748 Just to be clear: no general rule against presenting untrue statements as true would be consistent with the First Amendment. Even lying isn't, as a general matter, illegal or actionable. It could be protected speech. See US v. Alvarez.

[@terryirvine2472]

Glen Greenwald is great

[@nycboogie]

Beyond

[@adek2989]

Best guest ever.

[@clairetimberlake5892]

Glenn Geenwald is brilliant. He is my favorite source of news.

[@jvm-tv]

Glenn is the gold standard of journalistic integrity. Very few like him I know.

[@Roomli]

Glenn Greenwald ! My hero , You need to be protected .🙏

[@stripey7303]

The reason for the rise of calls for censorship is that social media are allowing people to access ideas and information that those in power don't want them to know about. Now that the traditional gatekeepers are unable to keep these marginalized, new tactics are being employed to that end.

[@yeeeeeha]

So they are doing what China and North Korea do

[@FreeSpeechWilderness]

Glenn Greenwald has maintained his integrity by always sticking to his principles.

[@brianbozo2447]

Glen is so éloquent and obviously intelligent.

[@TedKidd]

I tend to not enjoy Freddy self-righteous egotism. But as you might expect an interview with Glenn Greenwald is worth it.

[@BP-xe7dw]

Yes coupled with his passive aggressive element.

[@Jonathanismyname]

It’s nice to see UNHERD stepping out of the echo chamber amd having someone as consistent on the issue of free speech as Glenn.

[@sertaoexpedicoes]

I love Glenn! Great to see him here.

[@kraka2oanIner]

He's a CLASS ACT.

[@JEX-w5h]

HUGE Fan of Glenn Greenwald.

[@robertholland7558]

Some off us simply do not subscribe to the “ chosen people” with a covenant over the so-called holy land philosophy.

[@RobRaptor49]

Interesting to learn a bit more about Glenn! Always enjoy hearing his views - he is often insightful and knowledgeable.

[@sylvester2294]

Never lit a crisis go to waste!! Money and weapons....hurrah!!

[@HenryThree]

I may slightly disagree with his characterization of the campus protests, but I have mad respect for his steadfast consistency in his free speech advocacy. He is one of the few "free speech warriors" that is operating from a place of principle instead of opportunism.

[@TharpaRinchen]

Agree with Glenn on 100%

[@petropupkinsky3529]

Freedom of speech is very important - that's why we put those who dare speaking against us behind bars.

[@pedrogorilla483]

They forgot to mention what Ben Shapiro did to Candace Owens.

[@nycgweed]

I know I haven’t heard from her for a while. What happened?

[@user-ch4mm7dy3g]

Private company,not state-owned paid by taxpayers'money

[@Dolphia]

Ben fired her for tweeting "Christ is King " apperently that is antisemtic hate speech to him and his zionist buddies 😅​@@nycgweed

[@TLww4soup]

@@nycgweed She hurt Ben's feelings on Israel First and took a couple charlatan rabbis to task in debate. Her and Daily Wire parted ways.

[@madogNikky]

@@nycgweedgag order from daily wire while they were supposedly trying to schedule a debate.

[@tonquinb]

Glenn is a national Treasure...logical,consistant. An important voice to be heard

[@galah771]

Excellent. Thank you both

[@lindapratt119]

Thank you Glenn Greenwald!

[@itstrue-lcw1]

That was a fantastic discussion gentleman, Well Done👏 Unheard, plz have another back&forth with Glenn & yourself 🤟🙏✌️

[@ellyharris4345]

Bless you Glenn and thankyou for your journalism. Thankyou Unheard. good job

[@seanoreilly915]

This was a fantastically nuanced discourse. Thank you for making me face uncomfortable questions.

[@TugHillGuy]

This was probably the most comprehensive and best podcast coverage I've yet to see/hear on the concept of freedom of speech.

[@stardust5467]

Freddie Sayers is at pains to tell us, more than once, that he does not agree with all of Greenwald's views. So what?

[@JesseKanner]

It's a kind of virtue signaling ... which isn't a bad thing btw. Signaling is a way to promote certain values and behaviors you wish to see expanded in the world. In this case, civil discourse with those you disagree with.

[@antonyliberopoulos933]

Freddie and Glenn, thank you for this superb content that improved my understanding about what is happening with the war on free speech.

[@PoetryBirdsFly]

Thank you for sharing! Cora W. Tilburg, The Netherlands....

[@kraka2oanIner]

LOVE to the Netherlands.

[@JB-gr6om]

The reason they try to equate words with violence, is they want to use violence against words.

[@kraka2oanIner]

Clever, but..more importantly, ASTUTE.

[@David-v2t8h]

Glen seems principled on the issue of free speech. I agree with him that it’s a right which needs to be defended fairly from all sides.

[@runderwo]

I've been reading Glenn Greenwald since 2005 and my trust that his point of view is independent and prioritizes human freedom and flourishing has only increased with time.

[@kraka2oanIner]

FREE EDWARD SNOWDEN !

[@rabbitcreative]

All of it is 'free' or none of it is 'free'.

[@felixmoyoedonmi]

Indeed. It is all or none. You are either wholly free or wholly enslaved. There is no half way.

[@fredgarvinMP]

You're either a free speech absolutist or you're not for free speech.

[@BenMJay]

Kinda crazy the UK has no free speech. Just a tyrannical state IMO.

[@robertcambareri1028]

Best comment yet on the whole "Free Speech" issue.

[@Silence_Duder_Gooder]

It's funny, because when free people, like me, show others who _aren't_ free from some sort of social constraints, and show those people that you're _truly_ free, and _can't be tethered_ by conventional BS, they HATE YOU FOR IT. Yeah... they HATE YOU FOR IT. I love the irony of all of this stuff. It drives my writing.

[@wisedup20]

Excellent interview.Glenn is a treasure to journalism.

[@gemmadavies2922]

In the light of this awakening, I hope UnHerd can take a few moments to look into what happened to Jeremy Corbyn.

[@andybrice2711]

The _"Visibly Jewish"_ guy in London (Gideon Falter) totally was trying to cause trouble though. He's a powerful Israeli activist who has campaigned to ban the protests. And by most accounts he was repeatedly and deliberately pushing through the crowd with security guards and a cameraman. The policeman used a poor choice of words. But he was just trying to prevent violence between opposing groups.

[@gorkasillero]

Funnily enough, the Met police didn't have any problem with the 'Kill the Jews' and 'Gas the Jews' chants.

[@ef2718]

Why would it be violence rather than vocal arguments?

[@andybrice2711]

@@ef2718 Because he was aggressively pushing through the crowd with a couple of burly security guys, and then disingenuously claiming he was just going for a walk. He wasn’t trying to engage them in debate. I think it’s pretty obvious he was trying to provoke a physical or verbal attack. And he didn’t even get one. So instead he went after a well-meaning policeman for a poor choice of words.

[@ef2718]

@@andybrice2711 Last weekend the demonstrations were tight even mixed with policemen in the middle but not buffering.

[@andybrice2711]

@@ef2718 How do you mean? Protestors and counter-protestors intermingled? I think that’s mostly fine, and the police who stopped Falter possibly overreacted. I saw Konstantin Kisin go and debate the protestors. Some were civil, and some were angry. But none were threatening.

[@gerhard7323]

The right to free speech is ultimately there to protect those with whom you disagree NOT those with whom you agree.

[@kraka2oanIner]

Yes! And the answer to disagreeable speech... is MORE speech !

[@My56David]

Un Heard, thank you again for another compelling interview!

[@colourgrouppainting4281]

Greenwald is so refreshing and measured.

[@djsouf5604]

Appreciate the host he seems to be a bit more informed since his interview with John Mersheimer

[@VelkePivo]

Glenn is the most {only?) principled journalist we have.

[@MaxwellPowers666]

Matt Taibbi, Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal, Alex Berenson, Michael Shellenberger, Seymour Hersh, Chris Hedges, Abby Martin....I can go on.

[@kraka2oanIner]

He's superb, but...there are OTHERS. Abby Martin, Richard Medhurst, Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal, Norman Finkelstein, Jimmy Dore, to mention some. NOT invalidating Glenn, just pointing out that there ARE others on our wavelength, who will fight with us!

[@YekunoAmlak333]

Love you Glenn! You are a courageous warrior for truth.

[@fellsmoke]

Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me.

[@gailclough1665]

Great chat

[@paulwhetstone0473]

I enjoyed hearing Glen’s POV and Freddie’s push back.

[@johnaguirre9196]

Sayers makes the point.Censorship comes hand in hand with mass surveillance and the control of information generally,especially increased, using the internet.

[@mousiebrown1747]

Remembering, from the ‘60’s & ‘Nam, the protest songs 🎵🎶🎵🎶 ((4 dead in Ohio; etc.)). Those of us who lived thru the US’s ‘Nam adventures, 🎵🎵 “Won’t Be Fooled Again”!! 🎶🎶. We know how to “Find the cost of Freedom……”. ✊🏻🕊🗽

[@kraka2oanIner]

I STILL align with those ideals from the 60s and 70s, so...I'm voting for JILL STEIN & BUTCH WARE, 2024, who STILL promote those ideals!

[@tinasmith1391]

At this point I think our internet is a lost cause. It would probably be best to build another one from the ground up and not let corporations control it. I can say the same of our government too.

[@shahlaahy4372]

Exactly!

[@stripey7303]

In the US, nationalizing social media would automatically put them under the purview of the First Amendment. Short of that, we should call for legislation defining them as common carriers.

[@dogeared100]

Need it to enforce civil rights.

[@jacksonfrost9710]

greenwald is my favourite journalist, i think, perhaps after taibbi. but the casual "a study has now proved that 99% of these protesters were perfectly non-violent" is asinine. there is "a study" to show anything one wants to show -- including, lately, that cowe farming is supposedly carbon-positive, funded, as one might expect, by boviculture conglomerates. i am on the UT campus, which certainly did not see anything close to the worst of these protests, and i personally witnessed two obvious assaults in one single heated afternoon. free speech is fine, even when people are saying asinine things. but hysterically emotional mobs are awful, and *obviously* they invite violence, even from those who would in any other context never dream of perpetrating it. let's not rely on ideologically weighted "studies" to hagiograph stupid kids doing stupid things, even when we want to defend in principle their right to do them.

[@duartnadia]

I had to comment. Greenwald was very active in Brazil during the installation of the dictatorship that is currently very much functional over there. At that time he used the very same modus operandi that seems people didn’t get yet which is to be very sensitive to the woke agenda as how the trans community even feels seeing the world and feeling as a minority (which they are and it is okay too) but jewish people being prevented from entering their university is not an aggressive action at all or “depend on what we believe to be aggressive”. It is okay for all of the non woke people to feel abused sometimes even physically but the woke community cannot even feel uncomfortable. Well Brazilians were being silenced when questioning the mandatory vaccine or for questioning the election system and he was on the opposite side not just silent but advocating for that. However later he changed his position was too late because the goal was achieved by the far left. It is not okay to twist reality for the sake of your ideology because in the end of the day it will affect the evolution of our world (I mean globally too, affects everybody). It is okay not to agree with everything just because you prefer a group and speak up for what could affect all of us for generations. Now generations will pay for the dictatorship that is running freely over there. He is making a lot of noise pretending he is pro free speech, but if you ACTUALLY listen to him: no, he isn’t.

[@thewrightoknow]

I am with Glenn, I am for free speech especially if I think it is offensive!

[@HatefYaminiOnline]

Thank you for allowing Glenn’s to speak on this topic

[@nates.4552]

The host asked alot of the questions to Glenn that I have wondered about because I have not heard Glenn clarify his stance on the free speech bounds and what he thinks about some of the protester tactics recently on college protests. I also dont listen to every single podcast he puts out. I know it should be a given that someone that is generally on the free speech boat should defend it even with people who that person disagrees with but its not. Glenn is on the Palestinian side of the argument(saying that Isreal has gone too far) and he definitely is convincing. I just dont generally trust the information on either side since so many of the college kids protests remind me of crazies on twitter with pink and blue hair that support any percieved "victim" and are focused on "identity" and I don't care who is doing it or who it is for, I CANNOT STAND the victim narratives because most of the time they wildly blown out of proportion and are done so that speech can be "justifiably" silenced. Great interview and makes me less skeptical of Glenn Greenwald and makes me think he is truly a free speech absolutist and fights for truth and not ideology.

[@ef2718]

Samples of recent years: Nigeria vs Boko Haram 350,000 dead Sudan JEM/Darfur 300,000 dead Yemen Houthis 233,000 dead Pakistan Islamists 50,000 dead Syria 500,000 dead South Sudan 400,000 dead Ethiopia and Eritrea vs Tigray 600,000 dead No protests for all these dead. It is not about people in Gaza, it is students being used in protests sponsored and organized in service of foreign interests and agendas.

[@sanjaybhatikar]

Calls for jihad are not violence?

[@user-zz9gn2dc3l]

Nope

[@rachael_grey]

No. Not until such calls cross the line into attempts to foment specific acts. You can watch this escalation in the case of Rwanda.

[@hungrydave1977]

Greenwald is a real one

[@TheHappyNAPster]

I agree with Glenn on most things but not the idea that government should break up monopolies. The long history of regulatory capture by corporations should provide ample evidence for this. The monopolies that do need to be broken are the central banks, especially the Federal Reserve Bank of the US (the Fed) which prints money at the behest of the government, creating the not-so-hidden regressive tax of inflation that most harms the working class and anyone trying to save for the future.

[@Ellerich800]

Exactly. And do we want China's tech giants, with their government's control, become the global gatekeepers of information with an AI promoting their authoritarian social credit system. Smaller is not necessarily better.

[@ohsweetmystery]

We do NOT have a free market and government regs are what allow these monopolies to happen, so the government has a responsibility to break up those monopolies which would never have occurred without government interference in the first place.

[@TheHappyNAPster]

@@ohsweetmystery I know we don't have a free market, but saying the government has the responsibility to fix the problem it created and actually expecting that to happen is a bit fanciful. Corporations are recognized in the US as "legal persons" by the govt. Perhaps that needs to be changed so that the human beings who run said corporations can actually be held responsible for their actions, rather than granting blanket immunity as was done with pharmaceutical companies.

[@mbrochh82]

Here's a ChatGPT summary: - Glenn Greenwald discusses the recent shooting of Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico and the media's rush to assign political motives without evidence. - Greenwald emphasizes the importance of not making assumptions about the shooter's motives until concrete evidence is available. - He highlights the tendency of people to attribute political motives to acts of violence, which can often be due to psychological issues. - Greenwald discusses the pro-Israel bias in the United States and the impact of social media on shaping perceptions of the Israel-Palestine conflict. - He points out that while social media allows for more diverse voices, it can also distort reality through selective anecdotes. - Greenwald argues that free speech should be protected even when it makes people uncomfortable, drawing a line only at physical violence and direct incitement. - He criticizes the conflation of anti-Israel sentiment with anti-Semitism, noting that many Jews are part of pro-Palestinian protests. - Greenwald discusses the hypocrisy of some right-wing free speech advocates who support censorship when it aligns with their views, particularly regarding Israel. - He defends his own consistency in supporting free speech, citing his history of defending unpopular views, including those he personally disagrees with. - Greenwald attributes the current trend of censorship to a cultural shift where people expect to be protected from uncomfortable ideas, extending from college campuses to workplaces. - He criticizes the rise of the "disinformation" industry, which he argues is a tool for political censorship disguised as neutral expertise. - Greenwald calls for breaking up big tech monopolies to ensure a competitive market for ideas and prevent centralized control over information. - He suggests that government should stay out of internet censorship but could play a role in ensuring transparency and fairness in how tech companies manage content. - Main message: The defense of free speech must be consistent and principled, even when it involves protecting views one finds disagreeable, to prevent the rise of authoritarian control over information.

[@karenness5588]

Glad you're hanging in there, Freddy. Kudos.

[@bperez8656]

There is no such thing as HATE SPEECH. It doesn’t exist!!!

[@dogeared100]

Wait until you are it's target.

[@robertholland7558]

Sticks and stones might break my bones, which will heal, but words will never hurt me, unless we let them.

[@lrye-xyz]

Government needs to break itself up. It should focus on those things that only it can do. Its a referee, not a player, not a coach, not an owner.

[@martinliehs2513]

I oppose monopolies as well, be they in government or the corporate sector. Usually, the corporate monopolies are enabled by governments.

[@dixonpinfold2582]

Both facile points of view here. Competing governments is civil war. You're not thinking this through

[@ferhanfikret8990]

Why are you sure you disagree on a bunch of stuff? Seems like an odd way to start a conversation about free speech

[@neovxr]

Freddy knew for sure that Glenn would take up the challenge. Glenn's answers were wise and consistent.

[@ddk567t]

Freddie is quite silly at times.

[@psmorgan2542]

Would love to see a conversation between Glenn Greenwald, Norm Finkelstein, Douglas Murray and Sam Harris, and moderated by Alex O’Connor.

[@peterjensen3076]

27:00; the powers infantilising the ignorant mob, and thereby restricting and abusing, goes all the way back to the founding fathers (and further, of course). It's a core capitalistic interest.

[@pratahsinnetamby]

Glenn is always brilliant.

[@michaelgawthorn9639]

Glen Greenwald is the most articulate and informed individual on the internet.

[@SeekerofknowlegeandTruth-ci3hs]

Great discussion.

[@squatch545]

Property damage is not violence either.

[@Nill757]

Greenwald is a national treasure.

[@artistphilb]

Hey that "visibly jewish guy" was trying to get an anti semitic reaction for his camera crew, and if you watch the other footage you can see the police telling him that he can't walk against the flow of the crowd, he failed to get his anti semitic click bait and the best he could do was get the police who were just trying to prevent trouble to say something inept

[@cooperwesley1536]

I love Glenn (I listen to him almost daily on both KZbin and Rumble), but he does seem to have a weird blindspot with respect to Israel. Someone should remind him that most Middle Eastern countries would love nothing more that to wipe the entire country off the map... even to the point of saying so publicly. Rabid anti-Semitism is incredibly common in the Islamic world. Glenn rarely acknowledges this fact... and I've never heard him offer a solution for changing it.

[@adamgates1142]

Benjamin Netanyahu was going around for years showing off a map of Israel with no Palestine. This goes both ways and to be clear Israel is the only country in the region that wants war.

[@SonnyJangard]

Very interesting talk.

[@pepperkoop]

The double G!!

[@FallingPoets]

Glenn once again proves why he is trustworthy. Free speech is his guiding North Star, and any similar acolyte is happy to have him as an ally.

[@GirdsHerStrength]

It does not Matt how “from the river to the sea” could be interpreted. It must be understood according to the intension. And the intension of those leading the chants is for 10/7 to be repeated throughout Israel.

[@ef2718]

"10,000 times over".

[@nunyabidness3075]

He touches on an important concept. “Counter protests” should not be allowed against protests that are permitted. Cities and law enforcement need to understand this. OTOH, protests on private property without permission, or without permits should get no such protection. In fact, those protestors might be culpable much like robbers are culpable for damages they did not intentionally create during their robberies.

[@Alexisatlarge]

I think Glenn wasn't familiar with the "you are openly Jewish" thing, which was clearly a case where the guy was trying to cause trouble (criss-crossing the demonstration with thugs) and what the officer should have said was "openly Zionist". As it so happens, many Jews on the Palestinian demonstration.

[@Vororterocker]

Glenn Greenwald is an institution for civil rights, journalism and integrity.

[@jacobcohen9205]

The limits of 'free speech are clearly defined in the US, at least.

[@fredgarvinMP]

And they are VERY few.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

​@@fredgarvinMP💯 Precisely.

[@jacobcohen9205]

@@fredgarvinMP, Which is what we all want. Isn't it, as few as possible?

[@robbieelliot9491]

I've been to different protests and there always seems to be an element of ppl which just love protests and confronting. If you run a protest you have no control over who turns up also, not one protest has been reasonably or fairly reported.

[@Silence_Duder_Gooder]

Yeah, sure, the shooter _could_ be mentally ill, but that could also mean he would be an easy patsy for some government to manipulate into assassinating the PM of Slovakia. Also, one of Slovakia's former PM security detail came out to say that it was odd that none of the security that was around the PM at the time tried to either stop the gunman or protect the PM. They just let the guy get off five rounds before tackling him? So that gives credence to people making their presumption that this was a targeted hit by someone other than just this lone gunman, and where have we heard _that_ phrase uttered before: "lone gunman?" 🤔 I've always understood how Glenn speaks about free speech versus violence. And I have since I was about 8 years old, too. And I'm 55 now. I had _really smart_ teachers in grade school. It's only when I arrived at grades 7 through 12 that I realized _those_ "teachers" were merely grooming us to be more like those kids moving down the conveyor belt and into the meat grinder in the movie classic, _Pink Floyd: The Wall._ Just fodder for some corporate monstrosity.

[@inamedunic9749]

Glen🥰

[@felixmoyoedonmi]

Those who are offended by other people's speech have no right to speak because their speech may offend other people.

[@user-zz9gn2dc3l]

Precisely.