Glimpses of Isadora Duncan of Film

Many people have posted on Isadora Duncan on You Tube.
Some, the footage of her rapturously executing the final few steps of an outdoor performance.
Others, photographs of her dancing, images that curiously seem to capture some of the dynamism and modernness of her movement.
There is also disputed footage described by some as Isadora dancing at the Parthenon. Given that the Greek ideal was one of her primary sources of inspiration, the temple in Athens would be a likely place for film to be shot. And certainly there are photographs of Duncan in dance pose at the Acropolis. However, the temple in this footage here is obviously not in Athens, as it is low in altitude and there is sea in the background. And there is know reason to suppose the film is of Isadora herself - so perhaps a disciple, following in her footsteps.
And there’s footage of Isadora on board ship with the Russian poet Sergei Yesenin, whom she married in 1922.
Finally and rather morbidly I came across French newsreel footage of the car in which Isadora’s two met their deaths in 1913 when the car they were traveling in plunged into the Seine in Paris. The talking head over this footage rather gruesomely comment 'Voyons les enfants’!
All these resources are spread about and seem to justify a post putting them all together.
Enjoy!

[@pueblochiliroasters]

Wow, so much beautiful history. Such a different time she lived in. Without phones, videos, TV’s, the joy the people must have had while watching her. The anticipation, their smiles and the memories they were left with. So happy to watch this

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, a beautiful time past

[@serpentines6356]

Wonderful tribute John.Thanks. To those who think her dancing was silly, and childish: You need to put Isadora in context of her time in history. This kind of dancing was quite astonishing, and sometimes shocking for the times. I too am amazed how she was eventually able to carry on after the death of her children. Nothing is as horrendous as losing a child, much less both of them.

[@pediatrapaola]

l am one of them and think that her so told dancing was silly childis and a complete fake and the only shocking thing is that so many were fooled by her then and also now.

[@kathymyers7279]

Serpentine S i had a pre justice about her dancing but I thought this tiny glimpse was lovely. I watch Pavlova and I don't get it.

[@arnoldamaral7406]

Serpentine S losing a child it's called the worst lost. By many psychologist Etc. My wife and I lost our daughter 10 years ago she was our only child she was 31 years old. We think of her everyday and speak of her she was a very unique individual. I know I will see her again and she will never say I am sick. Her husband of 10 years still grieve her. He remarried 5 years ago keeps in contact with us you can't let go. It's very heartbreaking. Enough said. Everyone who was a great parent understands what it's like to lose a child. It's a kind of pain that you don't wish on your worst enemy I don't have any enemies I just don't know how the way to describe it. Isadora was not immune two tragedy none of us are. If you have children cherish those moments because tragedy can happen to anyone at any given moment. Thank you for listening sincerely Arnold Bourbon Amaral

[@gigimora366]

At the same time. She hated ballet before even knowing what it is ( she never tried learning it) that shows. Im sorry, context yes, but anybody could have done that dance ( I and many others danced better as a little girl) just not everybody was that excentric. She brought no gain to dance in my opinion. Modern dance without proper ballet background of the dancer is not much interesting till nowadays ( there are exceptions of very talented people, she is not one of them..)

[@gigimora366]

@@pediatrapaola so agree! Dadaism: same times same phenomen. Its just the decadance of humanity and culture had its golden time lasting till now

[@lancer8325]

I just found out today’s that she’s my ancestor and I did not know how good she is!

[@Marta-zk1mg]

I’m here because my ancestor was her friend and secretary 😂

[@lancer8325]

@@Marta-zk1mg many people tend not to believe me as I am also a relative to Deborah Sampson. We have plenty of proof!

[@Marta-zk1mg]

@@lancer8325 wow that’s so cool!

[@JohnRaymondHall]

great, how are you related to her? :)

[@lancer8325]

@@JohnRaymondHall my dad, dads mother is sisters with isadora

[@koloagirl]

The car footage is actually from earlier when her two children and nanny were drowned in the Seine in Paris - the car is being towed out of the river.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, you are right - and someone else commented this too. thanks

[@moonbeammagic7499]

Yes, I noticed this too. Scrolled comments to see if others had. This was April 19, 1913. Her kids Deidre age 6 and Patrick age 3 and their nanny drown. The car stalled, the driver got out to crank the engine in front, the car slid into the river. I saw a re-enactment pic of the car Isadora died in in a video titled “The Tragic Life and Sad Death of Isadora Duncan”. Much smaller car where her scarf simply draped over the side of the open passenger area and tangled in the wheel spokes in 1924. Amazing she was so famous with all the performances and schools yet there’s very little dance footage. So many opportunities for a photographer to show up and film her dancing. Yet someone showed up to this tragedy scene and actually got footage of the car in the river and being transported away from the river. Just found this Re-enactment: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXe3naF3ZsSsbaM

[@SusanAvenue]

Just wonderful! Beautifully done! And Sir Fred's homage Five Brahms Waltz in the Manner of Isadora Duncan is just pure genius.

[@pediatrapaola]

pure genius ,where ? she was an overweight impostor and charlatan

[@Fatatua]

Thank you!! Very exciting and goosebumps worthy.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

pleasure :)

[@mr.wizard2974]

i never knew this lady existed until i watched "Death Valley Days" . Thank you so very much Mr. John Hall for a video showing me what, otherwise i might have mussed!

[@9avedon]

Car accident shown, took the lives of her 2 children and maid , is not the car in which she died.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, i read that sometime back and am trying to film out more about the car crash footage - the footage here appeared in French documentary footage of the time, incorrectly identified.

[@SpeegBJ]

John. There are no photos I know of on the car accident killing Isadora. However, there is a photo of the cab being brought out of the Seine with the children and the nurse/nanny inside that is apparently from a newspaper photo?. It's in the 1968 book on Duncan "The Russian Years' by Ilya Schneider. The website 'mirfaces.com' has a photo of the car. The children drowned in 1913 so moving footage at that time of a less than spectacular world event (death of Queen Victoria, crowning of King, etc) would have been on the rare side, yes?

[@carmenpeters728]

John Hall She died in a Bugatti.

[@lna5294]

@@carmenpeters728no, in an amilcar that she called "bugatti"

[@ChucksCherubs3]

@@JohnRaymondHall The French commentator at the end doesn't say 'Voyons les enfants’, he says 'Noyade des enfants d'Isadora Duncan' (Drowning of Isadora Duncan's children).

[@passionballettopfru]

Thank you! It's beautifully done.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

thanks - i piut it together six years ago and had it on my old YT channel and was surprised it was not here so i just remedied this. :)

[@shelleynobleart]

Wonderful to see her in motion.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, a photo only says so much.

[@pediatrapaola]

why wonderful? what do you exactly find of wonderful in her idiotic childis amateurish movements?

[@JohnRaymondHall]

Enrico - as she is in motion you can see your opinion confirmed :)

[@Oakleaf700]

I was surprised to see such an 'earthbound' figure...More like a 'music and movement' class, than the lightness and spring I was expecting.

[@WinChun78]

Beautiful. She has the grace of a woodland nymph, there is true magic in her art. Can you tell me who the music is by? Thanks

[@voraciousreader3341]

At 3:43 in this video, you will see that the music is listed there but the title given is incorrect. What’s meant is the title of the tribute ballet by the English choreographer, Frederick Ashton, “Five Waltzes in the Manner of Isadora Duncan,” composed by Johannes Brahms. However, this is misleading, as the original work written by Brahms is “Sixteen Waltzes,” Op. 39 for piano, four hands. Ashton chose five of these waltzes to use in his ballet, numbers 1, 2, 8, 10, and 13. I hope this isn’t confusing, but if you’re knowledgeable about classical music, it will be clear. The first one used for this video is #2, the second (1:53) is #8. Here is a link for all 16 waltzes, if you’re interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpPQpn6jj7t0iZY

[@nnnnnnnnnnn7292]

I wish it was her dancing. That dance is so full of life and power. If she danced like that she was a genius.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, i think only the footage of the outdoor performance is truly her - yes a genius pioneer!

[@ebarrett454]

wonderful! Thank you!

[@JohnRaymondHall]

amazing to have a tiny film glimpse of this famed pioneer of modern dance - glad you like it!

[@GeorgiosFiladelfefs]

Hello,the video from the acropolis is actually from the temple of Poseidon in Sounio. From Acropolis there is not a view near the sea. I think she was there with a relative of mine Filadelfefs Alexander who was a very good friend to Isidora. In all this ancient Greek monuments she was with him and he wrote several articles for her. There are also some pictures. Thank You for the video and the photos!

[@JohnRaymondHall]

this is exactly what i said in the notes to this upload - "the temple in this footage here is obviously not in Athens, as it is low in altitude and there is sea in the background" :)

[@WilsonWilsen-Wylsyn]

Philadelphia? Like where the Pond Dynasty originated?

[@claudiamendoza2211]

What is said at the last footage is "noyade des enfants d'Isadora Duncan". It is the accident where her two children perished, in 1913.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, that is right

[@bonnie43uk]

Apparently she loved operating pnumatic drills. She owned 3 and would often be seen outside her home in Weybridge drilling the tarmac. The neighbours often complained about her.

[@TheStockwell]

I'm enjoying your uploads, Mr. Hall. You're a specialist and a good one. Seeing your videos is a wonderful experience - they make these great artists real. As to the supposed footage of Duncan dancing at the Parthenon in 1920 at 2:21 , I'm fairly certain it's not her for several reasons. By 1920, Duncan wasn't as slim as the woman in the clip; the columns of the Parthenon are much thicker and much more worn than in this clip; and, finally, the Acropolis is nearly five miles from the harbor and would not have the view of Aegean or Myrtoan Seas you see here.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

hi! glad you like what i'm putting up. yes, i'm pretty sure that the footage at the Parthenon is not Duncan either - there's been a lot of chat on the channel - and as well you are absolutely right - there is no view of the sea from the Parthenon, well, only very distant view as i recall and as you note. www.google.com.au/search?q=view+sea+from+Parthenon&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&imgil=IhXLtNRNxej5BM%253A%253BsODBu3BD0RDRCM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.123rf.com%25252Fphoto_14210484_north-view-of-parthenon-acropolis-athens-greece.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=IhXLtNRNxej5BM%253A%252CsODBu3BD0RDRCM%252C_&usg=__KsUMzxMvg0R0qx8qPP7ivTSn9fo%3D&biw=1306&bih=747&dpr=1.71&ved=0ahUKEwjl287ig8LQAhWDto8KHaFpBOkQyjcIKg&ei=XjI3WOW0I4PtvgSh05HIDg#imgrc=eMpsQeaFhxx0EM%3A

[@SpeegBJ]

John Hall....it's still fine that the short film you claim isn't Duncan no doubt, is in the compilation......I too appreciate it. It's all to take into account, what Mr. Stockwell stated about the location, the age of Duncan by 1920 (she died 7 years later, quite heavy by then)...and her figure just was not like what we see in the film, compared even to photos of Duncan of the same time period. As well, her arm movements just are not fluid enough to be Duncan... There is a wonderful Steichen photo of Therese Duncan on the Acropolis..."Wind Fire" which though is a still photo, has a transcending appearance of movement captured on film.... I have a copy hanging in my living room; thanks for your work, John.

[@Flowertree333]

I hate ballet, but I continue to train because it's important to have good technique. But knowing that Isadora abandoned ballet to skip around on stage instead and became known for it makes me so happy.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, it's a real choice of which way to go - ballet or modern technique - i guess the right answer if different for each person. do you think you'll change your direction? :)

[@andreaalegria-diaz1892]

She did not "skip around on stage". Her process was thorough. I strongly suggest you read her works.

[@Flowertree333]

@@andreaalegria-diaz1892 oh chill out! I was figuratively speaking.

[@charlottecoolik9872]

If you hate ballet why are you doing ballet?????????

[@Flowertree333]

@@charlottecoolik9872 because you need good technique to be a professional dancer??????????????????????

[@mina233]

I heard about this person yesterday during the Urajärvi Manor museum tour, an interesting person.

[@SpeegBJ]

John, this is great compilation of Duncan's photos, by some of the best photographers...and the rest can go down in history in their work, if not names. The footage on Duncan dancing is very clear....I've seen some clips that are very over-exposed...we can barely see Isadora, though it's obviously her. I am not a scholar on Duncan, but have been a strident fan since 1969, owning many of her books...and the instant I saw the footage of the dancer at the Parthenon I knew, as you allude to, this is not Duncan. I believe a 'scholar' on her would say the same. It's fine, it does give a 'sense' of her and the era...however, it's unfortunate we only have the snippet of her on film, and the legacy of her movements have been passed down by dancers...which is extraordinary. Vanessa Redgrave in "Isadora" did a splendid interpretation of Duncan's movements! Thank you for you interest in Isadora, a personal hero of mine.

[@nmuphelps1]

And VIVIEN PICKLES was absolutely MAGNIFIICENT as Isadoral in the terrific film he made of her life and death two years earlier - now available from Amazon in a boxed set of his early work!!!

[@zachlen48]

Ken Russell's film on her is so aptly titled," Isadora the biggest dancer in the world".

[@JustAnotherBlader]

So wierd that we now live in a world where almost every day of our lives are documented and we can film anything anytime

[@izabel-weronik]

I Adore this ⚡ I'm the very best fan Isadora's Dunkan 🌹Very talented dancer 💓

[@WilsonWilsen-Wylsyn]

David Pond would like a word with you.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

some argue she was very important at the dawn of modern dance

[@WilsonWilsen-Wylsyn]

I know what you mean, but you worded it as if you were saying Pond was!

[@JohnRaymondHall]

i need to be more articulate LOL @@WilsonWilsen-Wylsyn

[@WhatIsAPig]

It wasn’t David Pond, (Gerald’s son) it was Ida Pond, (Patrick’s daughter) who fell in love.

[@voraciousreader3341]

I dk if this has already been posted, but the music for this video comes from a work by Johannes Brahms, “Sixteen Waltzes,” Op.39 for piano, 4 hands. The first is #2, the second is #8. The English choreographer, Frederick Ashton, created a commemorative ballet for Duncan which, in it’s final form, is entitled, “Five Waltzes in the Manner of Isadora Duncan,” using the waltzes 1, 2, 8, 10, and 13 from Op.39. If you’re interested, here is a video of all 16 waltzes, played by Emanuel Ax and Anna Polonsky: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpPQpn6jj7t0iZY

[@hezebelbeing]

Thank you for this ✨

[@cheekycupcake5616]

❣️❣️❣️

[@lacerdalacerda2189]

Adorável 💛

[@steventhommes1077]

R.i.p. 90 years.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, and time passes so quickly

[@simaraft7373]

I don't know about her dancing but she sure knew how to pose for photos!

[@pediatrapaola]

is part of her self celebrating personality ,she untill the end when people and critics laughted (rightly ) of her overweight figure and ridicolously coloured hair she still had that gran diva behaviour ,ridicolous

[@pediatrapaola]

also her conversations with her russian poet husband must be very deep and interesting due the fact that she didn't speak russian and he didn't speak a word of a different lenguage than russian.

[@pediatrapaola]

Sonja Kierke sorry l am a male and hate that old fatass isadora

[@sonik.8985]

I'm not sure what you being male or her being somewhat ample could do with incurring hatred for a woman 90 years dead now.

[@sonik.8985]

looked up your subscribe option. Would be interested to know your opinions on Pina Bausch or Antonio Gades?

[@sc120o2]

Thank you for posting this interesting piece, John Hall. The first time I heard about Isadora Duncan was in a Celia Cruz song. I was always curious about Celia's interest concerning Isadora. Interesting and sad. I understand now. Thanks for sharing. Here's the link for the song: Celia Cruz-Isadora Duncan - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKvZhamupLRsg68

[@JohnRaymondHall]

i didn't know Celia Cruz's interest in Isadora - thanks for the link - i hear words like 'liberation' so i can imagine what she liked about the dancer. Cruz came to Sydney some years back and towards the end of her show the audience went onto the stage and danced with the songs - a great evening in the theatre for me! :)

[@sc120o2]

You're very welcome, John Hall - and thank you for posting 'Glimpses of Isadora Duncan'. Celia Cruz was a woman of strength; a sensitive woman of great character. She probably identified with Isadora Duncan's rebellious nature and sense of independence, hence the phrase in her song: "Isadora Duncan formed the liberation". What a nice anecdote of Celia in Sydney. Her joy for life was indeed contagious. I'm glad I found your channel. Thanks for your contribution, Mr. Hall. Be well.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

hi Sc120o - glad you're enjoying the channel :) and 'Glimpses of Isadora Duncan'. yes, when Celia Cruz sang i felt i was truly coming alive! i was filled with joyous and including emotion!

[@arnoldamaral7406]

John Hall please get a room! LOL

[@WhatIsAPig]

DILWID…..I love that word, never comes up in conversation until I had to describe John Hall lol

[@kelvysrojas3140]

Celia cruz the latin singer mentions her in one of his song saying that she was a revolutionary dancer she was a warrior ahead of her era.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

thanks for that - i've seen Celia Cruz onstage in Australia - the audience went wild for her

[@georginawheatley9864]

Some of the comments on here are unduly harsh (albeit tongue in cheek). It doesn't matter if the lady was a "fraud" - she's an iconic figure in the dance world - a cultural phenomenon who inspired many artists in her wake and beyond. The quality of her dancing is irrelevant - it's the sheer, ground breaking nature of it that's important.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, she showed a new way - and some people just didn't understand this new freer way for dance. a modern pioneer - who influenced so many.

[@gigimora366]

Not every ground needs to get broken. Nore does that change the simple fact of something being just badly done. Lets make the groundbraking thing of singing out of tune every single song out of conviction that we need to brake with some rules, that will maybe go viral on KZbin and inspire many others to do other crazy things but it will not impress those that actually can sing and understand music

[@totallydomestic433]

Temptress of her time. Breaking down of morals in her day.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

indeed! :)

[@jgbreezer]

Bisexual icon!

[@karieanne25]

sad to see the end of her and Zelda Fitzgerald and so many others who adopted these 'free' ways.....what tragic endings to their lives....

[@voraciousreader3341]

I found it!!! This is Dick Cavette interviewing the great character actress Elsa Lanchester, _who actually attended Duncan’s resident dancing school in Paris when she was a girl!_ Her descriptions are really amazing and amusing, although you really need to watch the whole interview (it’s here on KZbin) bc Lanchester talks about the school earlier in the interview. I thought this excerpt would be a good start. Enjoy! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6jdYpZ4iqeVgqM (Sorry! I’ve never posted 3 comments ever before, but I thought each was merited!)

[@frankmoyer5822]

When I drove an MG and wore a scarf my mother told me the story of Isadora Duncan.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

nice story - thanks for sharing

[@frankmoyer5822]

@@JohnRaymondHall And now learning that it happened in Niece, where my mother studied French just before WW2.

[@WhatIsAPig]

Whose niece? (The answer is Chris Pond)

[@frankmoyer5822]

​​@@WhatIsAPigNiece is a city in France . Or are you just messing with me ?

[@WhatIsAPig]

I know. I was making a joke about Chris Pond’s niece, Ida.

[@kuglagerfeld]

I don't know if anyone commented but the last footage is not her deathcar but of her children.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, thanks - it has been mentioned - sadly to change the caption within the video would have meant deleting it and loosing all the comments.

[@kuglagerfeld]

@@JohnRaymondHall it is fine, nevermund, just small detail. Anyway thanks for the video.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

@@kuglagerfeld my pleasure - and thanks for the correction - it was appreciated :)

[@panathatube]

Take it from a Greek, if that is actually Duncan she's not shown dancing in Parthenon you can see waves, and Acropolis is in the middle of Athens!! Perhaps it's Poseidon's temple at Sounio, I'm taking a wild guess.

[@melindamcgee]

Regardless of the location, the dancer at that temple is not Isadora. She doesn't move with the grace of Isadora from her solar plexus. Definitely NOT Isadora.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

as i said the the notes attached to this video "the temple in this footage here is obviously not in Athens, as it is low in altitude and there is sea in the background"

[@lynnewilliams3859]

I, would like to know the Kensington square in London her and her children where seen dancing in anyone know which one that could be.

[@johnrobertson2056]

2nd film clip is not the Parthenon. Athens is some 15 kilometers from the sea, and not a convenient backdrop to fill the space between two pillars.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

hi. yes, as i put in the 'notes' attached to the upload "There is also disputed footage described by some as Isadora dancing at the Parthenon. Given that the Greek ideal was one of her primary sources of inspiration, the temple in Athens would be a likely place for film to be shot. And certainly there are photographs of Duncan in dance pose at the Acropolis. However, the temple in this footage here is obviously not in Athens, as it is low in altitude and there is sea in the background."

[@satsuki5216]

I read her autobiography when I was young, around 9 or 10 and got traumatized by her life, put the autobiography book in the deepest corner of my book shelf and never wanted to read it again. However now I am very curious abt her dance, she seemed very famous I wonder how she really performed till now

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, a terrible life - the car accident that killed her children. it's a pity there is so little film of her dancing - she was so important in the development of modern dance.

[@user-vq1mg1dc8w]

Танец и туники напоминают греческих жриц-это был новый и свободный взгляд .Особенно хорошо видно на первых кадрах-как с древнегреческих скульптур.Жизнь Айседоры была яркой,но не легкой.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

да, часто, когда люди разрабатывают новые способы передвижения, возникает противодействие

[@Oakleaf700]

Oh the car.... so sad, such an accidental way to die. The loss of Isadora's children was ghastly too.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

and for children to die before parents is very very tough.

[@Oakleaf700]

John Hall You must be a parent. No one until they are a parent can really understand how ghastly it would be to lose a child...never mind two children. For this alone, I feel so sorry for Isadora.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

sadly i'm not a parent - but i feel such a very strong empathy for parents who loose a child/children - did you the movie 'Sophie's Choice' where unexpectedly a mother (Sophie) was suddenly told she could only take one child with her to the next concentration camp and the other would be killed - the choice totally destroyed her - soul-destroying to watch, absolutely.

[@Oakleaf700]

John Hall No, I haven't seen that film..if that was my choice, I'd choose to die. Simply couldn't choose! I only have one child [a man now]. Can't imagine any worse pain.. death would be preferable, to endure without one's child/ren in those circumstances would be too terrible. Don't think I'd be able to watch that film.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

i couldn't imagine being able to live on - absolutely unbearable - in 'Sophie's Choice' she does not have the possibility of dying - only of being taken to another concentration camp - horrifying situation - trapped totally. i watched it once, when it came out, not really knowing what is was about it - i could not see it again.

[@moonbeammagic7499]

Hey John Hall, thanks for posting this video. I’m curious where you found the film footage of the car in the river. Was it labeled? Do you know if it’s really the car her kids drown in or could it be footage of some other car that also went into the river? I’m wondering if it was labeled in reference to Isadora and you didn’t know about her kids accident so your mind figured it was the car she died in. Mostly I would just like to see if I can authenticate it as the kids’ accident scene. Thanks!

[@sutapabanerjee2294]

Who sang the song oIsadora u r living again Having the time of your life

[@WilsonWilsen-Wylsyn]

Glass Animals - Heat Waves

[@fabiograssi670]

No, the images at the end are of the car where his sons drowned...

[@JohnRaymondHall]

thanks for the correction - appreciated

[@fabiograssi670]

@@JohnRaymondHall You're welcome.

[@annettegenovesi4012]

Now I know where Baby Jane Bette got her dance act from.

[@ovalroom2]

Don't think her so called dancing in the Parthenon can be authentic, columns wrong and there is no sea view like that, also the so called car scene is more likely that car which plunged into the Seine killing her child/children?...can't remember now.Hopefully one day some real footage will emerge of her dancing I think she was amazing!

[@JohnRaymondHall]

i agree - having been to the Parthenon it is a distance from even the Port of Piraeus - yes i think the only genuine and universally agreed dance footage of Duncan is from 1.20 on in this video

[@gigimora366]

Not every ground needs to get broken. Nore does that change the simple fact of something being just badly done. Lets make the groundbraking thing of singing out of tune every single song out of conviction that we need to brake with some rules, that will maybe go viral on KZbin and inspire many others to do other crazy things but it will not impress those that actually can sing and understand music

[@honeyjean1000]

what is the title of the movie showing Isadora Duncan's life and death?

[@JohnRaymondHall]

the one with Vanessa Redgrave?

[@claudiamendoza2211]

The title is "Isadora". m.imdb.com/title/tt0063141/

[@WilsonWilsen-Wylsyn]

@@JohnRaymondHall Vanessa Redgrave visited a concert on a stage right next to Patrick Pond’s law firm. Once you realize who she played in a movie, and who his daughter is…….. *heatwaves intensifies*

[@WhatIsAPig]

Sometimes all I think about is you… Hey, we both have Wilson usernames! Well, it is a popular New Brunswick name.

[@operaguy1]

According to the film with vanessa redgrave, she and the dancer "made love like tigers."

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, i think i have read that elsewhere too :)

[@WhatIsAPig]

No, like Leo Hayes Lions. I’ll be here all night try the potatos.

[@voraciousreader3341]

What a gorgeous couple! I love the way they touch each other’s fingertips at 3:21, so delicately sensual.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

very much so!

[@kentuckywolf6096]

thank you for the share but there is no report on the car that killed her going into the water at the time of her death...the force of the scarf pulled her into the pavement & the strangulation & impact are what killed her

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, people have discussed that this is in fact the cab being brought out of the Seine with the children and the nurse/nanny inside. :)

[@kentuckywolf6096]

that makes a lot more sense as her children died in 1913...but her car did not go into the water

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, i agree - in fact looking over the 'notes' i attached to this upload i had written: "I came across French newsreel footage of the car in which Isadora’s two met their deaths in 1913 when the car they were traveling in plunged into the Seine in Paris. The talking head over this footage rather gruesomely comment 'Voyons les enfants’!

[@kentuckywolf6096]

John Hall actually it states that the car in the video is the actual car she died in...there is no comment about her children

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, i had that in the video and then there was the discussion of which car it really was with the change to the 'notes' i quoted - but i couldn't change the video upload without deleting it along with all the comments. i i hoped people would read the 'notes' for the corrected version.

[@user-iw4gz7vh4w]

Well I dreamed I was dancin with Isadora Duncan

[@mr.wizard2974]

Wow i dreamed i was on the Oprah Winfrey show...on stage with her and we were chatting in front of an audience and.. .she hugged me. That was truly one of the best feelings in the world!

[@WilsonWilsen-Wylsyn]

Pretty sure that song is in the point of view of David Pond.

[@WhatIsAPig]

* Ida Celestia Pond Is David the only Pond heir you know? That was Gerald’s side, Ida is Evelyn’s side.

[@emilymalecbrown7551]

who's here from the crossword???

[@anavilla7134]

MODERN FEMININITY WAS INAUGURATED BY THE CAN-CAN DANCERS, WITH ISADORA DUNCAN BEING ONE OF THEIR MOST IMPORTANT FOLLOWERS, WHICH I TALK ABOUT IN A VIDEO ON MY CHANNEL.

[@TheMrswestbrom]

Everyone seems to think modern femininity is white and western. Thousands of cultures have their own dance

[@casteretpollux]

Her legs and body aren't toned like a ballet dancer but certainly some beautiful lines in some of those photos. Tantalising there is so little film.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, and so unlike the wraith-like physique of some dancers today. given Duncan's fame, i'm surprised there is not more film of her performing

[@tommytomorrow2219]

You've got a typo there: "On borad the ship..."

[@JohnRaymondHall]

thanks for the correction - appreciated. got it right in the 'notes' attached to the video but not the video itself :)

[@karieanne25]

@@JohnRaymondHall that's okay....we are able to over look because of the beautiful footage....thank you.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

jeffery button - hi, yes this was sorted out some time ago in the comments - but thanks for also noticing - appreciated

[@mariawhite973]

Isadora was born in California. Very unconventional. A loner in spirit. An Atheist. And was bi-sexual. Suffered multiple miscarriages. The death of her real Father. Who lost all there money. Who divorced her mother. And died drowning along with his new wife maybe children included? Her boy and girl drowned. She went into extreme shock. She had them out of wedlock. Her Russian husband was actually murdered. As his ex-wife was slashed to death. He actually use to beat her and did not approve of her dance. She went without food for days. And had to sleep outside often.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, a very free spirit - i've read quite a lot about her - mainly about her contribution to modern dance - but did not know she was bi-sexual. yes the footage of the car being pulled out of the water in which the children died is so poignant - i don't know how it would not unhinge a parent.

[@iedacastilho7303]

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[@JohnRaymondHall]

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[@iedacastilho7303]

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[@JohnRaymondHall]

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[@Paul-iv9mt]

Ha. Sorry but this reminds me that I got ticked off for not taking it seriously when we had to dance around in bare feet waving silk scarves. The girls enjoyed it though. Ironic that it was a scarf that was her undoing.

[@barbarablue2571]

An ancient greek godess similar to those from the Odissey. Isadora could have been Circe, Callipso....

[@jaminadrossel3102]

Coole frau würde heute auch noch passen!

[@melindamcgee]

Definitely NOT Isadora Dancing at the Parthenon. The dancer is not graceful and initiates movement from her hips not her solar plexus.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, the general view of the footage is that is is not her at the Parthenon

[@inesterrizzano1350]

what’s the song?

[@voraciousreader3341]

There are 2 waltzes (not one) from a work by Johannes Brahms, “Sixteen Waltzes,” Op.39 for piano, 4 hands. The first is #2, the second is #8. The English choreographer, Frederick Ashton, created a commemorative ballet which, in its final form, is entitled, “Five Waltzes in the Manner of Isadora Duncan,” using the waltzes 1, 2, 8, 10, and 13 from Op.39. If your interested, here is a video of all 16 waltzes, played by Emanuel Ax and Anna Polonsky: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpPQpn6jj7t0iZY

[@capricastriotta]

1:19 2:21

[@kathymyers7279]

Omg what an ironic way for her to have passed away.

[@JohnRaymondHall]

isn't it - i guess more theatrical than other more pedestrian ways

[@AshilaqC-he3fj]

Marilyn Monroe loved her

[@JohnRaymondHall]

i didn't know that - thanks :)

[@rolom3]

I found her through researching Mercedes De Acosta. They were lovers

[@JohnRaymondHall]

Mercedes De Acosta was also the lover of Marlene Dietrich at one time too

[@JohnRaymondHall]

@WK Walf thanks for that - a good source for that. thanks for the book recommendation.

[@WilsonWilsen-Wylsyn]

Female poets love her don’t they? something something shmavid shmond.

[@WhatIsAPig]

Now look up Ida Celestia Pond, lovers as well (sort of)

[@natemitchell4224]

shout out slapped ham

[@JohnRaymondHall]

:)!

[@WilsonWilsen-Wylsyn]

Dur ham!

[@sint0xicateme]

0:48 is creepy as hell

[@JohnRaymondHall]

yes, a weird angle!

[@MeaHeaR]

é Power-Phull Aadmé untt AuRát

[@whatisup3632]

Then there's Maude.

[@user-tp2hv9xr9i]

Я может чего-то не понимаю.. Но где пластика, гибкость ? Если бы не Есенин, наврядли бы эту даму кто-то вспомнил. Аж смотреть стыдно. Бабища с явно лишними кг, совершенно не гнущаяся, изображает танец !

[@JohnRaymondHall]

хотя, как ни странно, многие танцоры и хореографы утверждали, что находились под ее влиянием.

[@user-tp2hv9xr9i]

@@JohnRaymondHall , скорее всего эти танцоры и хореографы были такими же "одарёнными", как и она. И этим объясняли свою деревянность: "Мы просто находимся под влиянием А.Дункан !"

[@shakti5965]

Испоганила танец

[@jamesrivis620]

BOARD spelled BORAD. Fix it !!!

[@sarahjones-jf4pr]

ON BORAD SHIP?????TURN OFF.

[@pediatrapaola]

god bless that scarf ,

[@JohnRaymondHall]

Hi Enrico - now are you sure you didn't go back in your time machine and place that scarf round the wheel of the car! LOL

[@pediatrapaola]

John Hall unfortunatly wasn't me but if l had the possibility l would have loved

[@JohnRaymondHall]

can you prove it wasn't you - i think you might have been the prime suspect!

[@JohnRaymondHall]

would you wear a medal to commemorate the occasion?

[@pediatrapaola]

John Hall yes ,sure