What Is The World’s Most Average Bike Ride? | GCN Show Ep. 466

[@gcn]

How do you compare to the ‘average’ cyclist?

[@christoingram]

The Strava data (I assume) would be very much selection biased by GDP/socio-economic factors.

[@scottbert9556]

Sadly, not well. Not at all.

[@johnandrews3568]

No surprise, I'm above average on all categories... so my mum was correct.

[@curriegillespie8261]

2021 Strava says: 7,672.6km, 39.96km avg ride, 17,471 m elev gain. 1.0056179775 hr per day

[@Groegselmaschupp]

Couldn't care less......

[@tipps2390]

I started cycling in November 2020 on a £500 halford boardman. Loved it so much upgraded my bike a month later to a roubaix comp 2021. Unfortunately after just 500 miles I get diagnosed with cancer in March 21. Had the all clear in November this year and to celebrate I did my 1st century last Sunday in 7.45hrs. Great channel all ❤️

[@mcq2525]

Thanks for sharing. Your story inspired and strengthened me in more ways than words can express.

[@BlackMamba-lt8oe]

what cancer prostrate

[@ricardoguardado4822]

Go little rockstar ❤️🙏

[@2wheelsrbest327]

Best wishes Tipps and your century time looks good to me.

[@STAY_AT_PLAY]

That's amazing to hear, glad your clear and back in the saddle!

[@tabishop3]

Caption: As MVDP looks upon his favorite GCN presenter, he thinks to himself, "Beauty really is in the eye of the beer-holder."

[@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1]

Winning GCN bottle number 64 coming up next week ....😉

[@wolfgangbuchrieser-gruber2028]

That’s the winner

[@ramonvanderben8120]

And another one for Tim... Absolutely brilliant!!!

[@tabishop3]

@@JerseyPaul90 They don't let me win anymore, so add your caption! Like cycling, the caption competition isn't just about winning, it's about having fun along the way. The more captions the better!!

[@davids307]

@@tabishop3 MVDP thinking - I bet I could even out drink him.

[@danieljentsch3360]

Caption: Mathew is thinking: "Dan must have meant he was a member of the Cervelo TASTE team!"

[@andyfairchild2383]

Caption: Matthieu “hold my beer....” Dan “don’t mind if I do”

[@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1]

Longest ride -12:05hrs (Everesting) Shortest ride -5 meters, fell off bike at end of driveway breaking my scaphoid in wrist 😂

[@ili4707]

The question now arises: What is more impressive?

[@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1]

@@ili4707 probably breaking my scaphoid in two and getting a metal screw as a souvenir. I got nothing for Everesting 😄

[@erlkoenig90]

Twisted my ankle leaving the house, before even touching the bike. Beat that! The doctor prescribed cycling to aid the healing process. Can't say no to that!

[@STAY_AT_PLAY]

HAHA! I have the exact same surgery as well lol pretty painful to be honest though at least mine was and i've broken over 20 bones that was by far the worst yet the smallest!

[@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1]

@@STAY_AT_PLAY ha I'm with you in that one. Smallest and most painful. The surgeon was surprised in was able to snap such a small bone in half. Have a metal screw keeping it together.

[@nag6259]

Caption competition: Dan might not ride much these days but he's still a star on the Cerveza Test Team!

[@FixedundFertig]

👌 love it 😅

[@TommiHimberg]

Perfect!

[@chrisridesbicycles]

Damn. You were that bit faster than me. I just wanted to write this.

[@filipski595]

this one deserves so much more votes 😂😂😂

[@thebr0wnhornet]

GCN- “we need to stop making fun of Ollie for getting dropped” Starts making fun of him for walking so slow

[@higeboshi]

CAPTION: "'No worries,' said Dan. 'I changed the settings on the beer to only 130 mL. I totally won't get drunk.'"

[@stevetroyanovich2236]

Your discussion of the start of winter sparked a thought for me: My first wife (I was only supposed to have one--but such is life) chose as our wedding day June 21--the longest day of the year and, consequently, the shortest possible wedding night of the year. I should have recognized that as an omen. The second wife chose as our wedding day December 21--the shortest day of the year and, consequently, the longest possible wedding night of the year. Needless to say, the second marriage has been utter bliss. ;-) Here's to the winter solstice!

[@STAY_AT_PLAY]

Wow that is quite a turnaround, isn't it?!

[@marcdaniels9079]

Best comment EVER !

[@davidsaska2617]

Never in my 30 years has this thought crossed my mind. Thanks

[@alexyoury]

One reason Brazil might have slower times is that mountain bikes (XC almost exclusively) prevail over road bikes by a lot! We're mostly riding gravel or singletrack trails.

[@ralvesco]

That's true, at least 7 in every 10 rides are MTB here.

[@MrSurturSword]

I couldn't agree more. Good road bikes are more expensive than HT's and fast gravel bikes are even pricier than good road bikes. On top of that, most weekend warriors in Brazil are in pursuit of social rides, not kom's

[@stevedog3934]

watch out for snakes

[@Andy_ATB]

Yeah, Go Avancini!!

[@edudutra]

I came here just say that.

[@ldduke]

The editor should do some explaining about the reason why the stats shown when talking about Brasil were the ones from USA. ;)

[@matt4drummer]

Agreed! Also, in the first section, Si and Dan are left of centre. I thought it was weird and the desk confirms it. Maybe the editors are ready for the Christmas holidays! 😁👍

[@workingguy6666]

Can slightly conform - I ride with a ton of Brazilians who now live in the USA.

[@RobertHopkinsArt]

And, why oh why, did we have to calculate the average speed ourselves? Lame.

[@professorsogol5824]

The seasons are defined astronomically: Spring begins with the Vernal Equinox (around March 20, northern hemisphere), Summer with the Summer Solstice (around June 21), Fall with the Autumnal Equinox (around September 23), and Winter with the Winter Solstice (around December 21). The equinox is defined as the moment when the plane defined by the moment the earth's equator passes through the geometric center of the sun, and the solstices are defined as the moment the sun reaches its most northerly or southerly excursion relative to the celestial equator. The local time of these events depends on longitude and the although the local time of these events does not vary, the terms Spring/Fall, Summer/Winter are reversed in the Southern Hemisphere.The advantage of defining these terms in astronomical terms allows discussion to share a common basis and reduces confusion.

[@jg374]

In southern Australia the seasons generally are based off the months - Summer starts December 1st, Autumn on March 1st, Winter on June 1st and Spring on September 1st. Mightn't be quite as scientifically accurate, but it is easier to remember (and the main rule of Melbourne weather is to expect all four seasons in one day everyday, so specific dates aren't as necessary) :).

[@lyha91]

Also, Si said astrological instead of astronomical. :)

[@hopleyp]

Thank you professor, I think even Si will now agree with these dates

[@robertrjm8115]

I full agree with the above, seasons tart with equinoxes and solstices. The weather, or to be more precise the climate, on the continent aligns with the se dates, where deep Winter is in January / February and high Summer is mid July to end August. Britain as an island is an outlier with its maritime climate.

[@professorsogol5824]

@@lyha91 It probably would have been more accurate to say "ecclesiastical" instead of either "astrological" or "astronomical." Apparently the reason the vernal equinox is on March 21 rather than some other date such as the first of the month goes back to Pope Gregory. According to Wikipedia, he "wanted to continue to conform with the edicts of the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD concerning the date of Easter, which means he wanted to move the vernal equinox to the date on which it fell {then on the Julian calendar]". And that date was 21 March.

[@aliancemd]

I don't know how fair the comparison of distances traveled per country is, Strava is used mostly in English-speaking countries(US and UK make up almost 50% of active users), it's not exactly something "popular" outside these. It's not like the grandma in Netherlands is uploading her rides to Strava, but she rides quite often.

[@amandajane8227]

Great point. i don't bother using the garmin when I ride my shopping bike and it goes out more often than the other bikes.

[@01banksjon]

Does Lizzy only give you guys permission to use her cycling shorts intro a set number of times? Bring back Lizzy :)

[@LaughingSaint66]

wow its been ages since Dan subtly told us he rode for Cervello Test team !!! I almost forgot 🤣

[@sacevedoneira]

Caption: stay with someone who looks at you the same way MVDP looks at that beer

[@ramonvanderben8120]

Si calling the German total of 5.4 billion m of elevation change on 657.6 million km ridden 'quite flat'... To us Dutchies that sounds like only riding uphill... I wonder what the total amount of m in elevation gained would be if the Dutch did 657.6 million km... It still wouldn't be more than a couple of hundred meters....

[@chrishayes121]

Global total of meters ascent is equil to the moon and back and back to the moon? Surely back from the moon is a decent! No?

[@skulluxe1]

Caption: Dan: “hey Matthieu, bet you can’t beat me on Zwift” MvdP: “Hold my beer!” Dan: “Don’t mind if I do!”

[@sisankles6589]

Si: "No one can argue when Christmas is, can they?" Well, yes they can. The observance of Christmas around the world varies by country. :)

[@mekongvelo4592]

Winter starts if the temperature drops just below 30 degrees C 😂 😂 😂

[@LegSpinna]

Astronomical not astrological. Astronomical, think Patrick Moore. Astrological, think Russell Grant.

[@petermann6379]

'No-one can argue when Christmas is' ... Cue huge brawl between Western Christians and the Orthodox church!

[@neilmdon]

OMG. I actually AM a meteorologist and my wife is an astronomer…. FIRST, “Astrologically” speaking is ASTRONOMY! tisk tisk tisk. The astronomers do define seasons on the solstice and equinox, but as I am also a Celt, the celts and others used the “cross quarters” - Beltane (May day) / Lughnasa / Samhain (Halloween) / Imbolc (St Brigid’s Day, more or less Mardi Gras. Pagans seem to have returned, so you can find people running around on these days (not Pagan’s Biker Gang - don’t mess with them). So it is Midwinter and Midsummer for just the reason you declare. By that measure Winter should start on Halloween. That is a bit silly though - even though the general circulation switches from summer to winter conditions quite quickly at the Solstice (the Inter Tropical Convergence Zone, or ITCZ, moves from roughly the northern tropic (Cancer) to the southern tropic (Capricorn) quite rapidly - much more quickly than the sun at noon itself - it takes a while to actually cool the Earth (really the ocean) down, so yea, Meteorological winter (as in it is cold and nasty) is skewed later than Halloween and starts in mid - late November. Hah.

[@dalehall7347]

Hi Si and Dan, Just finished my final FTP Test for GCN's Zero to Hero workout plan on Zwift. My FTP is up 30% and my weight came down 6%. My FTP went from 2.5 W/KG to 3.4 W/KG. Couldn't be happier with the results. Well done GCN on the great program!

[@VandimFerreira]

We Brazilians don't mind the jokes. Most of our rides are mountain bike so it make sense to be slower than European countries. What we do mind is that the editor messed up the cards and put the USA on instead of the Brazil. Come on mate, you are better than this. Also, I'm still with the El Alto song stuck in my mind. Even after FOUR MONTHS AND THREE DAYS. #help

[@VandimFerreira]

Caption competition: MVP saying to himself after seeing his idol and favorite GCN presenter: "One day Mathieu, one day..."

[@malharpatwardhan4796]

Caption competition :- MVDP thinking, " Oh boy wouldn't I like a nice beer, maybe I'll ask wout for one after winning this week's race"

[@lukaskaciasvili9351]

Caption: “Everybody talking about Dan and MVDP, but my focus in on the guy in the middle who photobombed the picture in cool style.” 🙌

[@MS-bw7yt]

Hopefully with their new factory Bianchi will be able produce carbon steerer tubes that doesn't snap...

[@thelegotechnicchannel1256]

What is the longest tunnel, you are allowed to cycle through? My longest tunnel was 3000m+ in Italy

[@nickygilroy7771]

MVDP to Dan "man you really will drink anything, that's my urine sample for the drug test".

[@robertrjm8115]

regarding seasons start: Seasons start with equinoxes and solstices. The weather, or to be more precise the climate, on the continent aligns with the se dates, where deep Winter is in January / February and high Summer is mid July to end August. Britain as an island is an outlier with its maritime climate.

[@MrIsaac-dh3uh]

This is "The Law of Large Numbers." Most viewers are saying "Hey that's just about me!" on the average ride numbers. Of course, that's statistics. It's like the jelly bean in jar guessing game; huge range of guesses, but the average of the guesses is very close to the number of jelly beans. Math rules again!

[@johnandrews3568]

caption: Dan smugly taking a quaff of beer after humble-bragging to MVDP how he once rode for the Cervelo Test Team.

[@easternbrown]

Caption: This, young Mathieu, is known as a Zwift half where I come from

[@Doktor_Al]

The average rider is the one who truly believes they are an expensive upgrade away from getting better. Constantly.

[@hogroamer260]

The old dude in the opening is an awful ventriloquist. I can see his lips moving when his puppet is talking!

[@tompenfold5962]

An hour ride is great, as Si says you can be in and out the house in no time and ride at an average pace that is a lot higher than when you cycle for 2 hours plus

[@seniorcycling5352]

Caption: MVDP ; Mathieu views Dan’s problem

[@chadarmstrong9053]

Caption: MVDP “I see how Dan made it pro, always taking a draft while others do the work”

[@boyhoy1978]

Caption: Captured on film, the only moment when Dan wasn't telling MVDP about his time in cervelo test team.

[@benjaminzachwieja8133]

Caption" Mathieu, did I forget to mention I was on the cerveza test team?

[@2004RS4]

Was that intro a puppet? I saw the ventriloquist’s lips move!!!

[@wightsurfer]

I took up cycling towards the beginning of the first lockdown (June 2020) so still a bit of a noob. This year I have averaged 31km a ride and my average ride time is approximately 1 hour 15 minutes. That said, most of my road rides have been longer than 31k with the shorter ones being on Zwift. Although it's Zwift that has upped my average speed.

[@joerosser6620]

Caption competition: “Is that Dan-wise-er”

[@cyclingwithck766]

No stats for Australia? Reckon we would smash everyone

[@simonm1447]

I would suppose the same

[@alaaajeel7558]

Again we love you from Iraq 🇮🇶❤♥

[@cmdkick6086]

Caption: Find someone who looks at you like MVDP looks at Dan drinking beer.

[@MusicInSilico]

you are my winner ! XD XD XD

[@cycleyyz]

Canadians: Don't worry, GCN. When you get your first day of winter, we'll let you know.

[@MajorinDC]

Caption Competition: While the rest of the cycling world looks on with envy as VDP bears down and suffers as part of his occupation, Matthew looks on with envy as Dan suffers through his occupation by putting a beer down.

[@mlustosakm]

CAPTION: "That is why he is my Favorite presenter!"

[@malcraghill7]

It's time we accepted that the seasons (in the UK anyway) are not equal in length. Winter (Dec-Mar) and summer (Jun - Sep) are 4 months long and autumn (Oct - Nov) and spring (Apr - May) are 2 months long. That's how it feels in Cumbria anyway.

[@alfamaize]

Seeing the opening form the Detroit Velodrome is sad these days- as the structure was blown apart over the weekend after the blower keeping it inflated lost power on a very windy day here in the midwest of the US.

[@brookegravitt4117]

you two are the best pairing on the channel!

[@Pionirish]

What, better than Hank and Hank's dad?

[@heliumtrophy]

"they're getting very snazzy indeed..." *proceeds to showcase their middle age golfer range* Sorry Si, you can't back out now, you've officially entered that zone called middle age syndrome.

[@casakaiser]

My average ride is 47 km and 2:22 h. I hit the 12,000 km marker in November... but wont be hitting the 13,000 km before the end of the year, as December is a too dark to ride during the week enough.

[@richardharris8538]

#CaptionContest: Dan assured me it's alcohol-free. Yeah, and he also said he's an ex-pro.

[@workingguy6666]

Yes, please re-visit the stats taking out the indoor trainers. I mean, some of my indoor sessions are merely to warm up (high spin rate, little load, short time) before actual rides. It's ridiculous to count those. I have a suspicion that the average ride lengths in wealthier countries would then lengthen substantially as these are the cultures who can also afford indoor trainers the most. I think we'd all like to see actual outdoor ride data the next time.

[@morganbrewer8712]

MSBrewer here! Thanks for the Hack for my 3D spacer. Was a great fun project and is opening the doors to more 3D printed spacers! Big up the GCN crew 🤙🏼

[@laluapadong]

I'm male 39 from Indonesia & i got coronary heart disease (CHD) on April 2021. After that i start to cycling everyday (before that i used to cycling weekly or monthly). My average speed improved a lot from 19 kph before CHD to nearly 27 kph now. Before got CHD i used zeopoxa app but after got CHD i used zepp and strava app. I'm riding XC full suspension bike with 26"x1.95 tires. The bonus is 20 kg weight loss and reduction of cholesterol level

[@joebikeguy6669]

Living in Florida where there are many retirees (I think you refer to them as pensioners?) I'm pretty sure we crush those Strava numbers for average distance and duration of rides. I know I do. Of course the weather is usually good, and being retired we don't have to do anything else unless we really, really want to . . . or our wives told us we had to.

[@dragoclarke9497]

"There's nothing like starting a foggy ride then climbing up into the sunshine" Nice, yes, but beaten by flying a Boeing 757 from a foggy runway in Bergamo and climbing out over the Alps on a cold winters day 🙂 Scarily enough my average ride is 17 miles and 1hr20.

[@MarcoSimoneGili]

#Caption "Who is your favourite GCN presenter?" "BEER!!" - "Do you know my name?" "Errrrr...Beer?" - "Do you like beer" "Errrrr...Daniel!?"

[@AmaroqStarwind]

23:54 That is not wine, that is a frothy glass of "fruit punch". Sorry, I'm terrible at captions. Also, I don't use Facebook or Twitter.

[@SailingWayfinders]

Caption: If you’ve never won a stage in the Tour de France, take a drink!

[@danielpspersonal]

I found it surprising to see I am below average by a lot., I mean I knew I was below average, but this average is just too dam n high,

[@jameslee-pevenhull5087]

The 'Average cyclist', according to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, is a ( male ) cyclist who can achieve a 200W Functional Threshold Power. They mark this feat as 'Healthy men'. 1hr17mins was my commute to work. LOL When I go touring, 20 miles between stops, or 1hr 30mins ish. 13.5mph = 21.75kmh. ( Close to average ). My FTP is 235. Bit above average. My PB 25mile TT is 1:07:00, LOL, dead average LOL Winter Solstice 21st Dec. 25th Dec, rise of the sun (Son). Bianchi. Longest surviving bicycle manufacturer. Introduced the 'safety bicycle' five weeks after J.K.Starley's Rover in Coventry.

[@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling]

caption: MvdP becomes a John Lennon fan, singing "🎹🎼 I'm Just a jealous guy" silently in his mind

[@traezer]

This past year of riding was: Avg Ride Dist: 34.1miles / 54.8km, Avg Ride Time: 2hrs, Avg Ride Elev: 1,311ft / 400m - mix of road and gravel. Winter starts Dec 1st and ends Feb 28th. :)

[@frazergoodwin4945]

"But everyone knows when Christmas is"... All of Sweden: "hold my Glögg, its the 24 December with the height of the festivities being Micky Mouse and Donald Duck on TV at 3pm". Sweden the country of premature celebration.... (and yes as a Brit with a Swedish wife this does mean I'm in the kitchen all day the 24th & the 25th).

[@shawnbrotherhood2642]

I have been riding a lot longer than 2 years! almost 50 as a matter of fact. nice to be the 1st to comment too. As always great content from GCN!

[@bleckandbleck]

Regarding Strava averages. Zwift has pushed my overall mileage up from about 3500mi to 4700mi per year. It's dropped my average ride length from 32mi to 25mi and dropped the average speed from 18.6mph to 17.9mph. Of course I could be getting slower because I'm 62 years old.

[@douglaspate9314]

Christmas does vary! I was totally surprised the first January (1990) I was in Leningrad, Soviet Union, when Christmas was celebrated on 7th January

[@helion741]

Si... You wanted an argument so there you have it. It's an ASTRONOMICAL winter. Not astrological :)

[@AsierEraso]

Caption: Now we know why Dan is MVP's favorite GCN presenter

[@JohnLumapaskeith]

Caption: Matthew Van der Poele contemplating whether to punch Dan in the face for saying "Mathieu Van der Poel will never win a grand tour".

[@madyogi6164]

My perfect route (and the shortest I was interested in) was: 36 km and it usually took me ~1h04. (top was bit below 1h02). Now it's 43.5 km with average around 1h23. Wish it could be better... As for the distance I'm constantly being forced to look for new roads since *local administration simply wants to get rid of the bikers*. They stick so many signs prohibiting bikers to use public roads it's nearly pointless to do any useful statistics. They repair ruined roads and build some dorky, useless bike paths nearby. They are good for kids and slow riders but not for road bikes!!! Lately I don't care about the signs any more and if I'm forced to violate them I do so...

[@hogroamer260]

WTF?!!! Where do you live?

[@madyogi6164]

@@hogroamer260 Poland. In terms of road biking, I sometimes feel it's really bad! Like they eat some wrong mushrooms and just build up crap to spend money on things they should not...

[@hogroamer260]

Unfortunately, bad politicians aren't just a US phenomenon, apparently. Bikes in the US are allowed on all roads, except interstates and toll roads. The trend is towards making the roads more biker friendly and converting old railroads to bike paths. Wish you the best with that situation.

[@mikefule330]

Not everyone uses Strava, and not everyone uses an app for every ride. These averages are not for "cyclists" but for "Strava uploads."

[@alicemorel5827]

As always great stuff ! but hey Gloucestershire Imperial Cycling network, Miles are not Global...

[@KristopherNoronha]

In India, most riders are not on Strava and might not even have a smartphone: they usually use cycles to carry cargo! In Mumbai, cooking gas cylinders used to be transported on tricycle (they'd be easily carrying 100kg of cargo!) and milk is still transported on cycle too... mostly by businesses who can't afford trucks. You also have cycle-rickshaws, which are tricycles that carry upto 2 passengers (and the rider).

[@j.milleraabamsc9400]

That data, in terms of speed, is extremely unrealiable, given Strava makes it seem like everyones a world tour rider and the large amount of people that use phone apps or questionable head units, tend to report high than lower data.

[@johnbowers5447]

Did the average distance / speed in Strava include indoor? Because Ziles are definitely shorter than miles.

[@letsgosteveo7282]

Caption: After my last Zwift session, I squeezed my bib chamois into that beer.. Enjoy Dan...Enjoy!!

[@tanisleach7829]

In response to the winter conversation from a meteorology student at Oregon State University: The reason why meteorological winter is December 1st to February 28/29 is because this is the most likely time for wintery weather to occur in the NH. The coldest temperature on average also occurs around January 15th in the NH (varies by location), halfway through this definition of winter. Astronomical seasons start differently because they are based off of when the equinoxes and solstices occur. Winter solstice is December 21st because it's the day the NH tilts away the most from the sun.

[@spinnetti]

woo-hoo! beat average for a change lol. Usually ride 35 miles a trip, at 16-18 MPH (16 with the wife, 18 without lol). 2hrs is fine, but I'm pretty spent after 4hrs without a stop for a rest.

[@radamesd81]

Not and excuse (well, kinda is...), but it's quite hilly here in Brazil. Where I live is quite uncommon to find even 1 straight km of flat road. We also own mostly mountain bikes, road bikes are quite expensive here. Left kidney and firstborn expensive

[@jeffreywilliams3646]

Hate to burst your bubble, Si (well, actually, I quite enjoy it 8^), but various eastern orthodox churches have a differing calendar and a different date for Christmas. Merry Christmas!

[@JackoJackson12]

Astronomical! We're talking science, not astrology nonsense! Si dear dear

[@robbchastain3036]

Great to hear that Burger King is now a team sponsor. And I like Burger King and their discounts such as two Whoppers for six dollars here in the States. And Dan would be the perfect former-pro model of those snazzy and jazzy Castelli jackets, like seriously.

[@danielfelicianoferreira8294]

when you spoke about Brazil.....you displayed and US flag. and hey we speak Portuguese and the capital is not Buenos Aires lol

[@israeltovar3513]

And the astronomical beginning of winter is December 21st, with the winter solstice. The days b came increasingly shorter until that day. Afterwards, the days creep back to become longer and longer. However, the harvest festivals can be assumed as a real beginning of the season, so it is around Thanksgiving in the US(end of November) or roughly Advent for Catholic countries...

[@Nonbelieverification]

Imagine all the kilometres/miles not recorded on Strava. In Netherlands most people use bike on daily basis. That adds up to about 20billion kilometers annually (17,5million people).

[@playandteach]

Caption: Matthieu 'Retirement suddenly looks attractive'.

[@robbchastain3036]

Here in Central Pennsylvania, I pretty much just divide the year into two seasons--Mid-October to Mid-April is generally cool or cold, Mid-April to Mid-October is generally warm or hot. And no knock on specific seasons, just that the lines between them are hazy around here, tho' I do like it when a day is true to its season, like a spring morning or a hot summer afternoon or even a mighty snowstorm in winter.

[@efusco]

The mean distance & duration might be more interesting.

[@Jamie-pb4gi]

“No one can argue when Christmas is” there is actually a bit of a debate on that most say 25th December but orthodox Christian’s (i.e. Greek, Ukrainian, Russian etc.) say 7th of January 😂

[@terramclaren2597]

I knew the first day of winter is December 21st. Winter solstice. Shortest day of the year. However living in Canadian Rockies where the ski hill open early November to me winter start at first snowfall. So october. Winter starts in October. And it last all the way till may. Fall and winter are very short reasons. Haha. Fall is September till it snows in October. And spring is may and June.

[@Rick--A-F]

I wish Strava wouldn't include indoor training in the weekly leaderboard. Sure, it's keeping fit, but it's not actually cycling imho. (getting ready for abuse!)