i suffer from athsma and never won any races. but i treated my athsma with cortisone steroids anabolic steroids, androstenedione, human growth hormone, erythropoietin, diuretics, creatine and EPO blood transfusions, and it seemed to do the trick. i started winning lots of races. good old lungs!
@nathanc7775 жыл бұрын
@@kgn3779 Pretty sure you're the one missing the joke bud
@recurf74925 жыл бұрын
@Tintin Reporter lol
@flyersguy12935 жыл бұрын
Maybe I have asthma and don’t know it. I’ll try this out and see if it helps me win!
@siftingtrutheshit23805 жыл бұрын
So your using half what the rest of them use?!
@TrackForField5 жыл бұрын
Creatine isnt a banned substance you stupid useless tool
@kenrobison48925 жыл бұрын
I’ve had asthma my entire life, and I have to say, I learnt more in the last 15mins than I have from any visit to the doctor. Awesome content, keep it up!
@jshepard58405 жыл бұрын
So now you have some time on your hands to learn that learnt isn't a word. Learned is the word you're looking for my friend.
@LDam-pf6lx5 жыл бұрын
@@jshepard5840 www.grammarly.com/blog/learned-learnt/ Not really.
@anthonyharding55 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, my Asthma nurse doesn’t listen to what I say, and basically just reads from a script. Like on this video, everybody’s asthma is different.
@Tangocita4445 жыл бұрын
@@jshepard5840 Not true and no need to be a jerk about it. Learnt is used in the UK and Australia - Learned is used in the US and Canada
@MunkyChunk5 жыл бұрын
Mr S You look like a fool now. Fool.
@dr.plinioferraz72125 жыл бұрын
I'm a doctor, triathlete and I suffer from asthma since I can remember. Swimming was so important for my improvement since always, as well biking and running. Congratulations GCN for the excellent topic and explanation.
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Nice one Plinio, thanks!
@CaptainShiny50005 жыл бұрын
I actually almost completely lost my asthma due to cycling and generally working out a lot. Only time it pops up again, but in a rather mild manner, is during days with really high pollen count.
@simonebottino51655 жыл бұрын
Same for me!
@KartGuy765 жыл бұрын
Since I started triathlon training, my situation has also improved greatly. I've found that especially the swimming has had a huge impact.
@gadsden4725 жыл бұрын
Same. Always had exercise induced asthma. Worst whilst running. Swimming and now biking has dramatically improved it.
@8paolo965 жыл бұрын
@@gadsden472 Me too! the only athletic exercise that induces my asthma is running, when I was a kayaker and when i'm cycling i've never had any problem, except maybe fatigue after very very long rides
@Adriana.Gabriela5 жыл бұрын
@Space Cowboy could your asthma have sth to do with allergies? I've never had pollen problems, but I have difficulty breathing if there's even a slightly encreased humidity in the air (e.g. close to a lake/river in the summer, but it's fine if I'm near the sea)
@damonm35 жыл бұрын
I’m 36 and have had pretty severe asthma sense my family got cats when I was 7. Rather than get rid of the cats I suffered for almost 30 years and was hospitalized several times as a child. It continued to be bad for 25 years. I was hoping I’d grow out of it as I’ve heard people do...and in the last year or two I’ve gone from using my rescue inhaler 2-3x a day down to 2-3x a week and now I honestly can’t remember when I took it last. A few months at least! I don’t even take it before long rides. It’s amazing being able to breathe without medication. Something most take for granted. And now I might be in that group😂. 👍
@codywilliams73195 жыл бұрын
They didn’t grow out of their allergy. They moved out.
@scheibehouse74395 жыл бұрын
Been watching for several years, and this was CLEARLY one of your all time best videos. Thanks for getting to the truth about something that so many of us deal with (or think we deal with at least). Top notch information!
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!
@chrisopie875 жыл бұрын
Thank you to everyone for sharing stories of your own experiences, I''m really pleased to see such a positive response to this video and also see so many of you have learnt something from it. The sole goal was to bring more information about a condition many people have or know someone with out into the open for all to access. We hope to bring more videos like this going forwards. If there are any subjects you would like covered, do let us know!
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a follow up video after you have seen more informed doctors that test you with more accurate tests. At least the tests in the video fall short. I hope you find out what your triggers are and what helps. This information is important to all cyclists. Seeing as how several air pollutants from multiple sources are prevalent all over. Norwegian state TV company NRK has a science show called Schrödingers katt. In one episode a presenter was exposed to fewer pollutants than traffic causes, but in busy street doses of the irritants. His blood pressure spiked in a short time. The researcher conducting the experiment said that pollution seems likely to cause heart attacks by hardening blood vessel walls. Thus adding to the job the heart has to work. Along with other issues arising from pollution. That is the initial result of research into some heart failure induced deaths in muscle powered commuters in city traffic pollution.
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention that my boss was told he is ok by a GP. Later he was told he had an asthma attack for 6 months and could have died due to 35 % reduction in lung capacity. His asthma tests over years showed negative results until he was ordered to a week of more intensive tests under specialists at Allergiatalo in Helsinki, Finland. The specialists told my boss he has a clear case of asthma after years of negative tests by several doctors. Do not believe everything you hear. Even from docs. I cannot say how many times I have been suggested it IS all in my head. I have fed crow to several doctors by asking to test me in a way that cannot be influenced by my head. I can see one particular lemon eating face 20 years after such test that showed I got a world record for having a normally middle aged issue at age 26. The surgeon who operated me took a picture at My behest to show the medical community it happens. After the surgeon said he has not heard of or seen such a bad case. Turns out 15 later I got another diagnosis of the same accident. Two years after a third. No wonder doctors suspected me imagining things or having Munchausens, because I have heard the words atypical symptoms or the symptoms do not match the diagnosed issues. How hard is it to examine other causes to atypical symptoms? Apparently very since doctors rely too much on the diagnoses of other doctors as if they were all knowing. In other words 17 years and two missed diagnoses hard. Possibly counting. With palm face easy 100 % matching of symptoms to third (rare) diagnosis. Blechh. Internet is a surprisingly powerful tool to show research data to doctors, who are unaware. I mean of scientific medical research not just personal anecdotes.
@justim45455 жыл бұрын
chris, im wondering if you could maybe mention if either of you guys have experience with high cholestrol? ive just been told i have high cholestrol, which is a big surprise to me, as i thought i was immune to that kinda thing. i do about 1-200 miles per week cycling, im 5'6" and weigh 64kg. i dont smoke, but my diet is probably terrible. lots of red meat and cheese! beer! all the bad things. its hard to find any info online as it seems to be quite rare??? i was wondering if you guys with lots of experience have hearfd of such a thing, and if you have, what are the ways around fuelling for cycling? like how to avoid all the sugars etc?
@thecheshirecat55645 жыл бұрын
That is very, very interesting and made me wonder if I should undergo the test: a couple of times, after a particluarly "breathy" ride, I did experience some interesting haves of an hour. Also, guys: the quality of information on your channel is skyrocketing and is on par with the best news paper around --while far, far outclassing the very many not best ones that pollute the information landscape lately. Keep up the excellent work!
@mmwrn5 жыл бұрын
As a physician (albeit not a respirologist), I didn't really understand the fuss over Froome using salbutamol (an asthma medication). It's not a performance enhancer per se, and this video does a really nice job of explaining why - good job GCN!
@joanangelopoulos5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this very inspirational video! Been biking for a long time, in my 60's, and recently diagnosed with asthma and thought I'd have to slow down my workouts. Just reading this helped me so much. I have eliminated triggers to asthma, dairy, nuts, eggs, and because of your video , I am back on track and able to push harder up hills, etc. Thank you both for this very educational video!
@tommyb-fairweatherlocomotive5 жыл бұрын
I suffered from asthma for most of my life as well. In fact, it barred me from military service. I was determined to pursue that goal, however, and led me to undertake nine pulmonary function tests, such as Ollie performed in this video, over the course of a year and with nine different specialists. The results of all of those tests determined much the same; i.e., that I did not in fact have exercise-induced asthma. As it turned out, my asthma was allergy-induced and had improved over the course of "maturing" and was indeed helped by exercise, which at this point has been mainly cycling. I am certainly no doctor but it looks as if Ollie and I might have a shared experience here and suffice to say it does appear to be a handicap that can be overcome. This next bit is purely anecdotal and given the time that has passed, might be a bit suspect from a scientific standpoint but Theodore Roosevelt suffered from the same. It was debilitating for him as a child but through determination and hard work, he also overcame his asthma by the time he reached adulthood. Persistent exercise saw his asthma disappear and he became a Medal of Honor recipient, general American icon, and the namesake of the aircraft carrier I deployed on last year.
@tungruffel5 жыл бұрын
Thought I had asthma as well, turns out I'm just unfit
@LittleMissDesmo5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Like many of the fans below I to suffer from asthma. I have found it particularly frustrating, even being disqualified from a martial arts tournament because they didn’t think I could continue.... after beating the girl going to nationals(even though I had been refusing to use my inhaler for months). And quite honestly that experience had weighed on me ever since. Since then I have outright refused treatment. And though that many not have been right to do. You video today helped me come to terms with my choice and that everything can be overcome through diligent training and mindset.
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
That sucks and I am sorry. I am not happy to not compete now that my health has deteriorated in many areas, but I am middle aged anyway. Aging sucks. Hope you can return to top level competition without DQs without health issues. You really should dig into the causes of your problems, because asthma is super individual. You also need to look into your rules to see if you can get a medical exemption to using your asthma drugs.
@LittleMissDesmo5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was really frustrated. Sadly that was many years ago. I’ve learned to breathe better just by changing how I breathe. It has helped a lot it also lower my heart rate a little. But it takes total concentration. Working my way through Zwift Academy and see what I can actually accomplish. Thank you for the well wishes. They are very appreciated.
@nstrug5 жыл бұрын
Had it since childhood and unfortunately it was untreated for the first 15 years of my life. I have permanently reduced lung capacity and peak flow as a result. Believe me my salbutamol and seretide don’t give me any advantage, nor do they level the playing field. They allow me to barely hang on to group rides where others can freely chat.
@paulstuart5254 жыл бұрын
I’ve had asthma for 25 years which stopped end 2019 thanks to been diagnosed with gluten intolerance. Been off wheat. No asthma, no choking at night, no reflux, no severe acid levels, no more severe headaches. Performance and body has improved significantly.
@amandanorth65265 жыл бұрын
That was really helpful for me. I thought I had asthma as a teenager, so signed up for an academic study concerning asthma when I went to uni. They tested me and I was surprised to learn I didn't have exercise-induced asthma. But to this day, when exercising hard in cold environments, I do end up coughing and wheezing more than most people. I find it really difficult to breathe through my nose at the best of times so I do think there's something in that explanation of the lower airways having to work harder to warm and humidity air than what nasal passages do.
@charleslethbridge76945 жыл бұрын
I am an Asthmatic since childhood; dust mite, and pollen induced. My experience is that cycling (sport generally) keeps me drug free. Keeps me motivated to ride.
@jrt95695 жыл бұрын
i'm a cycling enthusiast & i have asthma. exercise really can improve one's well being. just ride your bike & enjoy life.
@michaellee16635 жыл бұрын
Hugely interesting. Thanks Chris & GCN 🌬️
@MrDominicharrison5 жыл бұрын
This video is about Exercise Induced Bronchospasm (EIB) ... the term Exercise Induced Asthma went out of favour 20yrs ago, EIB patients don’t get symptoms when not exercising whereas asthma patients are often symptomatic with multiple triggers, although 1/3 of EIB cases turn out to have asthma. It’s similar to ‘viral induced wheeze’ in children, all these used to be labelled as asthma years ago (comment by an nhs consultant who did respiratory research and has EIB)
@peterwise1435 жыл бұрын
This Doctor has given good advice and done the right tests etc. I wish all Doctors were that helpful.
@willspicer95595 жыл бұрын
Asthma has haunted me forever, but I can confirm that exercise, esp getting fit, was easily the best therapy in my case. Thanks to @GCN for the video and for Chris digging deep in this one!
@M440iUK5 жыл бұрын
I am a life long sufferer of asthma and have always felt like it is a prohibitory to the sport I love but, watching this video makes me want to understand the problem better and get the mental barrier out of the equation. I would love to do this in-depth review and testing of my lung function but the 6 min dry air test scares the shit out of me! Great work GCN.
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Will, happy riding!
@martinmwenda81134 жыл бұрын
I am a known asthmatic as well,i have learnt a lot on this video.Thank you so much Chris.
@peterau55275 жыл бұрын
i have had an ENT surgeon diagnosed me with asthma for years. Finally I sorted a second opinion and had more tests done at the hospital. They found that I had no asthma. Go figure!! Great video once again. Keep up the great work.
@tomclarkson60785 жыл бұрын
I’ve had asthma my entire life and have always been told it’s exercised induced although most of the time it’s never triggered it off. I’ve always questioned this with my GP telling him that I struggle more in the winter because of cold the air but was always cast aside. After watching this video and what was said about breathing through your nose and it humidifying / warming the air before it enters your lungs was for me brilliant to hear! Pollutants do also set it off but not as bad as in winter. Please do more videos on this subject! I have so many questions!
@wadewitbooi1635 жыл бұрын
Great vid, well done Opie! But the biggest surprise was the horse at the end. Came out of nowhere!!
@drnailevo5 жыл бұрын
that bloody black dot on the cabinet is triggering my asthma
@ChrisinOSMS5 жыл бұрын
I kept trying to wipe it off my screen.
@stuart75235 жыл бұрын
It was triggering my OCD, trying to work out if was centralised. "Move your bloody head Doc, I need to check something."
@neuerdingsendlich5 жыл бұрын
what's it there for anyway?
@n30seven155 жыл бұрын
Good video on a topic that speaks to more and more people nowadays. Once again, well done GCN!👍 As other people have said in the comments, cycling helps a lot against the asthma problems but I would personnally recommend triathlon. The swimming part is excellent to learn how to control your breath, especially hypoxie training. Another thing if you have asthma, is to understand how serious is your condition and what triggers it. If you had asthma as a kid, you probably know already from all the doctors you have seen. But for people who were not diagnosed in their early years because of an unnoticed mild condition, it is crucial to talk to a specialist. You never know how it is going to evolve.
@hauteviscosite5 жыл бұрын
I so enjoy these medical videos. Nicely done, Chris & GCN. Maybe discuss skin health and sun exposure next?
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Great idea Joanna!
@BruceRobertson5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris for being such a willing guinea pig and and GCN for an interesting video.
@aaaaaaaaaaaaaa6625 жыл бұрын
Finally content that brings valuable and interesting information! This channel was lacking that for a while.
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that you felt that way. Have you seen our other health related videos?
@jamiehay10275 жыл бұрын
I've got exercise enduced asthma. I'm growing out of it now though.👍
@jasonmcgrody94725 жыл бұрын
Usually it's Si who does these kinds of science interviews. But, clearly, Chris is the best choice this time. Learned a lot. Great video. One minor complaint. At the 5:15 mark, Chris says he is doing a "nitrous oxide" test but the text on screen correctly states he's doing a "nitric oxide" test. Easy mistake. Nitrous Oxide (N2O) is commonly known as laughing gas. Nitric Oxide (NO) is used in a variety of biological processes.
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
I can tell from experience, that nitric oxide test feels awful to complete even with a set of lungs trained with competition swimming and free diving before taking up cycling more seriously. Being more accurate than spirometry and bronchodilation tests it clearly showed I have issues. With the other tests showing reduced capacity not to asthma diagnosis though.
@ptsnowcarver5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. I just went through the same test and was diagnosed with asthma. I live in Minnesota USA and breathing -15 F air in the winter tends to wreak havoc on the lungs. My doctor proscribed Singulair and an inhaler. Things are much better now. You're the best GCN!
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear things are on the up!
@duncanvincent91065 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting. I suffered with asthma as a child. I was schooled in south India at altitude at about 8,000 ft and was horrible at sports. Back in the uk I fell in love with cycling and was prepared to suffer for a few hours after I would finish a ride with the inevitable asthma attack...but it was worth it for the love of the freedom of cycling.... over a few years my asthma completely disappeared and from adulthood onwards never had much problem. I really think the cycling, although difficult, was key to my freedom from asthma.
@Lasermanprint5 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video, this is really informative stuff well done. GCN at it's best
@UbzUnclemax5 жыл бұрын
Big thumbs up! I love the indirect way of support to those whose reputations have unfairly been dragged through the mud by ignorant and unscrupulous thrill seekers of modern, low quality media channels 'The Guardian' and 'Le Monde'.
@velo13375 жыл бұрын
i always have problems breathing when i ride above 450w... plz help :)
@madmoench5 жыл бұрын
here you go, have some steroids. everybody should be able to do 600w /s
@orbifold43875 жыл бұрын
In anaerobic mode breathing isn't needed. Just push harder and hold that lactic acid.
@jacksquat20675 жыл бұрын
Stop riding above 450w. :P
@prakharthegreat5 жыл бұрын
Inhaled salbutamol. 200microgram before starting a session.
@adillathunder5 жыл бұрын
Thats already super strong
@sanjeevchauhan36135 жыл бұрын
Simply Love this channel. You folks are awesome. Love the work you folks are doing.
@ishmaell5 жыл бұрын
Love these kinds of videos! Very informative! Thanks guys!
@dominicward35235 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video Chris. As an asthmatic it explains a lot of stuff
@simonmoses40235 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the best videos GCN has ever done!
@jsquare32765 жыл бұрын
Very good job. Last summer I started having breathing issues I had never experienced, pain in chest just below neck, no air if I went too hard during the first few miles. This clears up a lot of the concerns and confusion my doctor could not totally help with. Thanks,
@harshshitole62935 жыл бұрын
GCN really raises bar always!
@ducatimale5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Also Chris, you're becoming quite the presenter!!!
@AdamMW015 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such an informative story! I love cycling and have been suffering from asthma a lot recently. This was a lot of useful information
@manthansrivastava39575 жыл бұрын
14:52 Horse: "Go on Chris, I am not looking at the camera."
@mitch_smith5 жыл бұрын
14:58 haha, got ya!
@donball3705 жыл бұрын
Great info Chris and brave to put yourself through the dry-air 6 min session
@takane1515 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! I had asthma when I was a kid and it started to go away around 15-16. But in the last month or so I started getting chest tightness when doing long hill climbs and then I got a chest cold and started having issues at rest occasionally. Went to the doctor and I have a rescue inhaler again for the first time in probably 15 years.
@patrickrichardson47655 жыл бұрын
Have had exercise induced asthma my whole life but it got better in my mid twenties. I would also get asthma when I would get sick. Kept me from participating in most sports until I started playing rugby in my early twenties. Never really used inhalers until a few years ago and now I am in my mid 60s. Just had a pulmonary function test as I was experiencing severe constriction when i was attempting to run around a track. The therapist told me that the constriction was not asthma. Revelation! Now waiting to hear from the pulmonologist to see what the actual diagnosis is. Getting old sucks! Hope you find out the true cause of your breathing issues. Biking later in life helped me get over some of my psychological issues with endurance training. But I've noticed that biking for me does not translate to better endurance for running.
@user-lu2hd8jx1x5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have never written any comment on a video, but I will make an exception because it may help some folks. I suffered from asthma symptoms and medication didn't help a lot. Then I found that what was causing asthma symptoms was Gastroesophageal reflux disease (GRD), a very silent disease that causes a range of symptoms like heartburn, chronic coughing, sore throat etc. and also asthma. Only by curing GRD I also solved asthma issues. I am also a cyclist, and cycling, running and exercise generally can make GRD, thus also asthma, worse because exercising when not having digested fully makes reflux more intense. So if you are having difficulty treating asthma, it makes it worthwhile to have a check for GRD. Hope this comment may help some folks.
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
I have GERD/GORD. Have you had an operation to tighten up your lower (o)esophageal sphincter to stop stuff from climbing up from the stomach up? Medicine does not help me.
@user-lu2hd8jx1x5 жыл бұрын
@@JanneRasanen2 No, just scheduling meals carefully in regard to training and sleeping
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
Eating non irritating foods helps some and avoiding heartburners a bit more. Despite using proton pump inhibitors and allowing the stomach to empty before exercise and laying down still does not help. Doctors have told me I have a vicious case and I have under a month to piece together info on whether to go to surgery or not. The surgery alone is not the only danger. Burping is limited so stomach gases may get painful and puking is limited. Sounds like a tearing chance if you ask me the meaning of what the doctors say. Oh joy.
@theparalexview7855 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I've had asthma for years and use albuterol inhalers (nope, it doesn't give me Froomey superpowers). But this video prompted me to re-examine my recent shortness of breath that didn't appear to be related to asthma. It would occur even when my airway and lungs were clear. I realized my core was still stiff from injuries suffered last year when I was hit by a car. Pain and spasms in my back, neck, shoulders and intercostal muscles were hindering deep breathing and after 20-30 miles I'd gradually stop using my diaphragm and would take short, panting breaths to minimize the muscle pain. So, back to physical therapy to work on the stiff chest muscles! At least I know it's not asthma when I know the inhaler and allergy meds are working properly.
@jonahconner11115 жыл бұрын
There's no link with asthma, but there is a link between endurance athletes and TUEs that improve performance.
@ChrisinOSMS5 жыл бұрын
Are you on an inhaled corticosteroid regimen? I thought my asthma was mostly under control by just taking montelukast sodium nightly with an albuterol rescue inhaler when I experienced tightness and constriction. I was using my inhaler 2-3 times a day. Usually after climbing stairs. I stopped exercising because the sensation of breathing through a stir straw sucks. My nurse practitioner persuaded me to try a combination corticosteroid/dilator medication and my lung function greatly improved. My 48 year old lungs feel like I did when I was in my 20’s. I can’t remember when the last time I needed my rescue inhaler. I have started cycling for exercise and am able to do so without triggering an episode. If your asthma has been properly managed by your GP for these past years then I am not surprised by your performance on this series of tests. My asthma wasn’t managed and I felt improvement just days after starting treatment. A point of note in this video that the hecklers might have missed is that post test dilator treatment did not make his lung function better than his normal resting lung function it only brought it almost back to normal. If you don’t actually have asthma then the medications won’t give you super lungs but only make your wallet lighter, so I guess that could be considered a marginal gain.
@kur0b45 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm currently having tests done to see if I do have exercise induced asthma and this video was super informative.
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Nice one, hope everything goes well.
@mitch_smith5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely enjoyed this episode. well done!
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Nice one Mitch!
@ginkotree085 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris. I suffer from allergy and exercise induced asthma and the tests and air function info were really interesting. Wouldn’t mind doing the tests myself 👍
@jaysonschultz80915 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I've struggled with this for years. Lot's of test and misleading advice and assumptions from Doctors. Thanks!
@billincolumbia5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, guys! Very educational.
@razzwilmz79705 жыл бұрын
Very informative demonstration.
@jonnyw28875 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thanks! I recently had weeks where I couldn't get to sleep due to coughing for an hour or so first. Thought I had persistent flu, so stayed off the bike. Turns out my asthma had got worse during the winter, and with my medication increased I'm sleeping well again and am back on the bike :) this has improved my holistic quality of life.
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear how much it has improved Jonny!
@Tronickification5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these science based videos
@dhalcro5 жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video, great work GCN
@mellowcat425 жыл бұрын
Kudos for sharing an experience which was clearly daunting and very personal for you. As for possible gains, perhaps a better question is why do pros subject themselves to tortuous conditions for our entertainment? Why not make race stages shorter, more exciting to watch, and less harmful to the riders?
@kieranmurphy84595 жыл бұрын
Fair enough salbutamol doesn’t effect max inspiration volume but what about the stimulant effects? This video hasn’t shown the effect of salbutamol on other systems (eg gastric). This hasn’t changed my option on the abuse of the UCI’s TUI rules by sky/Ineos and other teams but fantastic video GCN none the less.
@UncleBud835 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks guys!
@1983alex5 жыл бұрын
This is a very timely video for me. I suffered with Asthma all through out my childhood but grew out of of it (or so I thought) and haven't really had any symptoms for perhaps the past 10 years. Just recently I've started to suffer with Asthma again although I'm not sure exactly why. This was a very informative video, thanks
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
sorry to hear that, sounds like it's time to get checked out!
@jimabbatt58915 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video guys, great work as ever, learned a lot and I’ve lived with Asthma for 30 years! Keep up the great channel 👍🏻
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim, glad to hear it!
@jakehausauer36975 жыл бұрын
Watching this video induced my asthma
@Aerroon5 жыл бұрын
That last test should get a "game" like the little cloud one. Make it a cloud that tries to race something with a score in the corner. This could make people push harder, because right now it just looks like he's looking at nothing. Also, as someone with asthma, I don't think I can breathe in cold dry air as hard as I can for 6 minutes in a row.
@HUMPTY23015 жыл бұрын
When I was I kid I had asthma and all kinds of allergies so bad I used to get adrenalin shots. I continued to excersise all my life and the asthma and allergies have completely gone except allergies to cats. I am now 70 and an avid cyclist doing 100 miles a day and going on cycling tours around the world. I finely believe cycling all my life eliminated my asthma and allergies
@jordyd89165 жыл бұрын
I would like to give a detailed opinion on this matter. As a recently diagnosed asthmatic I can say I have a noticeable effect of using my inhaler pre-effort. I am a mid 30, full time working father. Bike riding for about 15 years now. I ride whenever I can, not competitive, for about 5.000 km a year. I was part of the category of people that thought it was normal to be wheezy and squeaky after some serious aerobe efforts. And it is, only the intensity of it, turned out wasn't. Only when implementing a cat in our household, I started noticing similar complaints on a more daily base. I also struggled to shake of common colds and had a lot of issues in my sinuses. So one battery of allergy tests, one oxygen-effort test and some hit-and-miss medication later. A correct diagnose was set. Asthma, cat allergy triggered. But also effort induced. Some daily nasal steroids/cortisones and pre-effort inhaler, the effect is, to my opinion huge. I am, not shamed to admit, below average when it comes to cycling. I ride mainly commute. Sometimes Sundays with mainly 50 year olds. I could simply not coop the surges "younger" people make. On longer rides, I always was the first to experience lactic issues. I had no issues with 5 hours of gentle riding. Nor with medium effort climbs. But when it came down to aerobe efforts, I simply was not good enough. Winter training did not help at all. After a serious effort, it feels like breething trough a tube. And the tube stays there! Catching your breath after a surge took me way longer. Medium efforts felt like training at altitude. As long as it didn't get triggered, I could ride medium efforts just fine. Once triggered, it would not go away for the rest of ride. What would trigger it? For me, sudden starts, to little warm up, surges, super dry air and heat. O, and cats. Let me be clear. I do not want to make this a black and white situation. There are different degrees of asthma, triggers and effects on the body can be vastly differentiating. Sadly, I also know that for some the spasms are life threatening. As in my childhood I lost a friend from down the street to an Asthma attack. Since using my medication I have yet to have an attack. Nor have I experienced the "tube breathing" sensation. On short rides my average speed went up with 0,0%. On long rides it takes me way longer to experience the first signs of cramps and lactic build-up. Making longer rides way more fun. My average has increased by about 1km/h. Mostly because I retain my average trough out the entire ride. Oxygen uptake/management is simply better. Added benefit, my nose does not feel like a leaky faucet anymore. Snot management was one of the few things I mastered on my bike. Guess I will have to find another specialty. I am still slightly under average what concerns my achievements. I will still not win little sprints, nor any TDF-titles. But I am no longer always at the rear and always suffering. Whether the medication can give a unnatural gain, higher then that of a 'normal' human being, I will not approach that matter. Simply because I am not educated enough about the subject. I do doubt that a "lung growth" hormone exists. And am more inclined to believe that inhalers, nasal sprays, ... can merely bring your lung potential back to 100%. But are lungs always supposed to work at 100%, is medicating a valid excuse for when racing on high altitude? It is a question that is as tricky to answer as the "ketones-issue". For people never experiencing any of the symptoms and vastly convinced that all inhalers are drugs. Just compare it to altitude training. Afters years and years of training on altitude I suddenly came racing by the seaside.
@FlatSpinMan5 жыл бұрын
Jordy D That’s a very interesting account, Jordy D. I enjoyed reading it.Thanks for taking the time to put it together.
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
My quest for the reason needing to stop walking uphill only in the winter continues. I have had asthma tests that according to Finnish criteria show I am not asthmatic. In searching for clues doctors have had me try lots of drugs and each inhaler helps. Heck even breathing through an empty cortizone discus helped. Actual asthma drugs sure helped for a time. The time varied depending on how bad I was and on the drug from minutes to 2-3 hours when working hard. The best help has always been spitting out the crud that clogged up my pipes. Your mileage will vary, because asthmas differ from each other and other issues higher up in the airways.
@WillN2Go15 жыл бұрын
The other question is, is there an advantage to using an inhaler if you don't have asthma? (I've had exercise induced asthma probably my whole life, but it wasn't diagnosed until about 25 years ago. My Masters swim coach Clay, seeing how I was breathing after some sprints told me I probably had it. When I visited my doctor, he put me on the lung volume tester and I blew it to a very high level. He said no asthma, I told him about being the only cross country runner to be gasping at the end of runs.. and he gave me an inhaler. What happened as a high school cross country runner is I wasn't very fast, always out of breath, and never got much better. Other guys would join the team, I'd be faster then them for a few weeks and then they'd zoom right past me. Thanks for doing this.
@undrwings5 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for going through this. Really informative.
@garybc5 жыл бұрын
Love the health and psychology contents of the channel, even the urban planning. Keep it up guys. :)
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gary!
@danmathis40465 жыл бұрын
Don't have asthma, so thought this might be boring. Not so. Another excellent informative video. Well done Chris. Thanks!
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan!
@schmuak5 жыл бұрын
I am happy for you!
@alanmtbuk5 жыл бұрын
I had asthma before I started cycling but cycling as improved my peak flow from 480 to 540
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
@@Axemasta The larger you are the higher the numbers should be. I have an asthmatic neighbor that blows 850! A big man for sure and an athlete. He said he went to a sports doctor who my neighbor knows to be a specialist in athletes with asthma. The doctor said the numbers guide lines are meaningless with athletes, because the tables are meant for the general population and exercise does change the numbers. Not what this video says and I think I have a possible explanation: I used to swim competitively and after retiring did free diving. I am better at using my belly to breath than most and in exhalation tests get a huge boost from squeezing my diaphragm. I clear over 90 % of my lung capacity in 1 second in spirometry when I am healthy and almost that when I am having breathing issues and months extended flus. At 170 cm tall I top out at 627 when healthy and am down to 500 when ill. Salbutamol etc. raise the numbers to 520-540 when ill and the difference is huge in the ease of breathing and how exhausted I am. Returning to healthy it feels I do not need to work to inhale and I am more energetic and lose the feeling of lying on my back under a stack of tomes on my chest.
@anthonyharding55 жыл бұрын
Very good informative video, thank you very much GCN👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🎥
@cup_and_cone5 жыл бұрын
If there's no performance enhancing effect, then logic follows someone who is not an asthmatic could take a bronchodilator like albuterol and not have any gains... Correct? It would be interesting to see the latter tests repeated, in addition to some others, on a non-asthmatic and show proof there's no gain from albuterol.
@hogdog5675 жыл бұрын
Cup & Cone that's correct. These exact tests have been done and prove that people who don't have asthma do not benefit from Salbutamol.
@aha2009715 жыл бұрын
I had some serious breathing problems during the pollen season this year. Even in that situation Salbutamol had zero performance effect while riding my bike and zero effect in an astma test with 4 x normal dose. Salbutamol is not in any way a wonder drug
@matkrek5 жыл бұрын
I did a big research project on salbutamol/albuterol. Generally the research shows no significant improvement in performance with these bronchodilators but the amounts tested is very low and most likely a doper/abuser would take way more puffs. I think there would be more chance of gain if they took legal but super high doses. Reply back if you have any further questions :)
@verityviolet5 жыл бұрын
@@aha200971 It doesnt help with allergies, no.
@verityviolet5 жыл бұрын
@@matkrek dopers dont take 'puffs' they take it in tablet form in high doses.
@kylewalsh57285 жыл бұрын
I've got a story about my "Exercise Induced Asthma". Back in March on a training ride I experienced severe breathlessness to the point where I was dizzy and weak. I was given salbutamol as an inhaler and in the nebulizer but to no effect. I was later diagnosed with an Epstein Barr Virus infection and told my persistant cough and uncharacteristic low pitched growling wheeze was due to that infection peak flow (PEF) was 760l/m. Months went by and the EBV symptoms died away and I was still left with the cough and wheeze. I eventually got to see a respiratory specialist and was diagnosed with exercise induced asthma in a similar way to chris. Just started treatment over the past week and in fact what I need to control the symptoms is inhaled corticosteroids and dry powder bronchodilators, alongside Singulair (Montelukast). Just about to return to training now but sadly too late for the racing season. Just goes to show that EIB can have so many different forms and respond differently to different kinds of treatment. The advice I would have to anyone who suspects they have asthma or EIB is to be persistant with your doctor if treatment is unsuccessful and see a specialist as soon as possible as it can drag out and set you back months in training before your diagnosis. I appreciate it if you hung on till the end!
@jacobtaylor42585 жыл бұрын
youve hit the nail on the head, i am 59, i went to my gp lots of times with breathing problems, everything took that long i ended up on a ward in hospital, and then got left on there for 9 days no treatment, said i had panic breathing problems, that was till i collapse and died, 4 days later on life support machine, woke up and to this day the good old nhs will not give me answers, my message to people is dont wait for your gp, go to a and e straight away
@edwardo73095 жыл бұрын
I’ve had peak flow readings and about a year now of checks and rechecks and never was diagnosed with asthma tho I now suffer with problems with fever and scratchy throat and fatigue but still have extreme wheeziness exercising I’m starting to think I might have Epstein Barr I really hope not I used to be quite fit and now I struggle cycling hard for 2 minutes it sucks
@kylewalsh57285 жыл бұрын
@@edwardo7309 I perfectly understand what you're going through. This year was meant to be my big year racing for Ireland. I had done all the training, the numbers were awesome and then BAM: ILLNESS. Months of misdiagnosis after misdiagnosis after ineffective treatment feelings of worthlessness and hopelessness. Finally today at the end of my dark tunnel after an emotional turbo session. I just want you to know that there is light at the end of the tunnel and your struggle will give you the confidence and motivation to become a better version of who you once were.
@edwardo73095 жыл бұрын
Thanks man Im glad to hear you are making progress as for me I need to see a doctor and maybe get what I probably think could be an Epstein Barr diagnosis it’s so random I can take two days off the bike and feel great then 1 day back on the bike and my legs fade early or I can take 2 days of rest and feel tired after walking to get shopping! I’m beginning to fear the worst and think it could be chronic glandular issues akin to what mark cavendish has got I know it’s prevalent in high stress sports because of the impact on the body robin Söderling retired in tennis because of it I’m losing hope of ever regaining the fitness I once had I’m starting to believe I’m done as an athlete or at the very least a fit and healthy person
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
Epstein Barr AKA mononucleosis usually happens with chlamydia pneumonia (heads off gutter) that is biologically a relative of the STD inducing different chlamydia bacteria. Pneumonic version is not an STD and is most commonly found on school aged children. Chlamydia pneumonia has many similar presentations to Epstein Barr and IIRC something like 80 % of carriers have both. Unlike my doctors in Finland say there is research that says that both bugs can cause issues for years after the initial infection. Trainer of Finnish top boxer Robert Helenius said in an interview that Robert had trouble climbing stairs 3 years after getting an infection of Chlamydia pneumoniae only. Despite being one of the fittest humans on the planet. I have PEF 500 when I am ill and 627 tops when healthy at 170 cm. Taller people should have larger numbers so I assume you are taller than I am or like Chris have larger lungs than the general population.
@Fastfitnesstips5 жыл бұрын
Whilst normal doses of bronchodialators (eg salbutamol) don't seem to give a performance benefit, high doses do, by around 2% (search "Baak Inhaled salbutamol and endurance cycling performance"). High dose TUE anyone?
@TheGinger15 жыл бұрын
Great video. Learnt a lot
@alij95995 жыл бұрын
Really interesting well put together item. Thanks
@odmineypiju47615 жыл бұрын
I overdid hill climbing last year and ended up with asthma. Now every time I ride I keep conscious of the way I breathe, trying to inhale only through the nose to warm and humidify air before it gets to my bronchi. Useful information, thanks for the video 👍
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
Try a technical material tube scarf over your mouth or mouth and nose. it helps a lot except if you go fast or in head winds you may need a thicker fleece based scarf or a face mask.
@Mububban235 жыл бұрын
My wife has the sort of asthma that will likely shorten her life. She gets set off by smoke and pollution mostly, although cold air can do it too. Interestingly, certain brands of cigarettes seem to have vastly different particulate output. She can breathe shallow and survive around certain cigarette smoke and leave the area without an attack, whereas one tiny whiff of others cigarettes produces an immediate asthma attack. Luckily we live in a dry warm climate too.
@johnpayne24655 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, stay healthy (ride more) and this will help you manage other issues as they arise.
@stuarthenderson73545 жыл бұрын
Excellent really really interesting !!
@tuke875 жыл бұрын
Wow imagine how good pro cyclists would be if only they didn't have asthma.
@minnsminns5 жыл бұрын
They'd be worse... because they wouldn't be allowed to take performance enhancing drugs
@Fastfitnesstips5 жыл бұрын
@@ska042 Except high doses might. Read Van Baak: Inhaled salbutamol and endurance cycling performance in non-asthmatic athletes Int J Sports Med. 2004
@robinseibel75405 жыл бұрын
@@Fastfitnesstips: "might". One study does not a scientific conclusion make.
@dereksmith36325 жыл бұрын
One of the girls have it that race's cx world cup. I thought it was Neff but I'm not sure, it may be the other blonde with hair like Neffs
@zzhughesd5 жыл бұрын
They don't!!!
@MarcoP705 жыл бұрын
I live in Sydney and always have my asthma triggered by an increase in exposure to pollution, cigarettes, traffic etc. I also find that the drier the air the worse the reaction. Warm humid air seems to help alleviate the problem, along with medication of course. Cycling and swimming (heated indoor pool during winter) seems to help me a great deal. Also at 13:45 did anyone catch the comment that taking salbutamol won't give you super lungs? Why is this myth still perpetuated?
@peggymargaret45745 жыл бұрын
born asthmatic, using inhaler and Montelukast.. works well for me. unfortunately it never left me despite thorough triathlon training and racing for 3yrs now
@victorziegler60015 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vers interesting video, I hope you will do more videos linking cycling and medecine.
@tim69915 жыл бұрын
Great video and very informative. I have been asthmatic all my life but well controlled. I am very fortunate that it is not EIA.
@gcn5 жыл бұрын
Nice one Tim, thank you.
@recyclespinning98395 жыл бұрын
I has incredible allergy and sneezing terribly in Chicago. Then went on vacation to Grand Junction Colorado. Literally woke up next day and stopped sneezing, better breathing...
@brendavane91485 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@aaronwhiting77255 жыл бұрын
I’m not fully satisfied with the answer as to why so many endurance athletes have Asthma. It seems to me that when 1st diagnosed with Asthma (or any other lung condition, such as I have), most children are recommended to try endurance sports to help their condition. Therefore a higher percentage of Asthmatics begin sport in the 1st place.
@JanneRasanen25 жыл бұрын
I was told to keep on exercising by a doctor when I developed breathing issues. The reasoning is to keep the muscles that draw in air strong so that if you get an asthma attack there is more time to take medicine or get treated. So the risk of suffocating due to the airways constricting or closing down completely is lower.
@jonleonard5385 жыл бұрын
Information from this video regarding environmental difficulties of endurance athletes brings up a difficulty. Tour de France allows ICE vehicles among the riders and probably smoking, camp fires and RV diesel and gas heaters among the spectators. All these things mean the air is not clean and suitable for endurance cyclists. This is so poor of the organizers of the Tour and any other cycle race.
@kevinswedlow55465 жыл бұрын
After 45 years of having asthma, I notice I can go years with no symptoms without changes in routine or environment. That could be followed by seasons of asthma sensitivity. It would be interesting to hear the expert’s insight in longitudinal asthma cases.
@onset58815 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't the title be 'Why do some pro cyclists have asthma'? This makes it sound as if every pro cyclist has asthma
@GhoshA5 жыл бұрын
Hey! Actually, I thought everyone has to face asthma.
@tryitout-7015 жыл бұрын
They all have a prescription for corticoides steroids for asthma
@greenpedal3705 жыл бұрын
@@tryitout-701 Yes indeed! Funny that isn't it?
@tychoMX5 жыл бұрын
It's a perfect title for a well publicized issue - did yo listen to the rates vs. general population? It's almost a joke now in cyclist's circles that you have to have asthma.