Opioid crisis: Fiery debate erupts in House of Commons over Liberals' safe supply policy

[@sweetwilliam27]

As a Mental Health and Substance-Use Worker outreach worker in downtown Victoria, I can say with high degree of confidence that Poilievre is 100% correct. The majority of individuals prescribed safe supply turn around and sell it (usually to teenagers) to fund their Fentanyl habits. Why? Because their opiate tolerance is too high for hydromorphone to function as an effective substitute. I can understand why Bennet is so upset though. The policies she put into place are creating the next generation of opiate addicts, and at this point, she probably knows it.

[@ccreature7086]

Bennet is such a defunct tool but as an MP of the LibNDP party, she cannot see past the envelope of her own federal pension package

[@Kraken_Mybutt]

The doctors that over prescribed OxyContin and these cretins giving out free drugs should be held accountable. THEY did this

[@notthatnick5546]

I was prescribed hydromorphone after a surgery a few weeks ago. It barely did anything pain-wise, and I'm not used to taking pain medication or anything of the sort. So for an addict, I don't see how hydromorphone can help with anything. 😅

[@kahlernygard809]

Hydromorphone has helped me return to work while living with severe unrelenting pain. I've never stole anything or committed a crime while on opiates , to the contrary I saved a life while on opiates on the Gauley River in West Virginia and saved two lives when a couples car flipped over down a mountain pass and got them out of the car before it started on fire. If I was stuck in bed because of pain they would have died.

[@MrLJeffery]

thanks for the insight. Have no knowledge about this at all.

[@bobmcbob9603]

As a recovering addict (15yrs) I want to say addicted people will never break the addiction cycle if a cheep easy supply of drugs are available.

[@bobmcbob9603]

@Gar i completely understand the theory behind the Halloween treat methodology and running the gauntlet of well meaning individuals. I’m telling you it doesn’t work. Only the individual can extract themselves from addiction. The only way to do that is for a person to hate the drug and the lifestyle more than they crave the high. Making it easy to obtain will never do this. An addict is a well practiced deceiver motivated by their own selfish desires. I listened to many many people who truly wanted me to quit drugs. You cannot reason yourself out of a perceived dependency, you need to reconstruct your life from the rubble you have left with the awareness that the substance will destroy you and possibly those who you love.

[@bobmcbob9603]

@@canwelearn2290 I’m sorry to hear that! I can only imagine what it must do to a family. I was the addict in my family so I was the one causing the grief… My folks faith was a comfort to them during this time. Now that I have come full circle and have had enough time and space to develop perspective. I have come to faith as well…

[@GusMortis]

It's hard listening to these people sitting in theor ivory tower like they know what they are talking about.

[@GusMortis]

​@Gar the problem is, the addicts are in and out of hospitals because they OD. You need to get them into rehab centers before they OD, and supplying them with drugs to OD isn't helping. Walk the streets of East Van if you need to see it for yourself.

[@adamt5164]

Why is it any of your business if other people want to 'break the cycle of addiction' or not. I don't know about you, but I find the hypocrisy of people saying that it was 'their right' to infect other people with a deadly virus in saying no vaccines being mandatory due to this made up 'right' of 'medical choice' but then turning around and telling drug addicts that their choice is a crime and they must get treatment (which often involves forced medication.) Drug addicts primarily hurt themselves, covidiots killed other people. If you're a covidiot yourself (like smarmy Poilievre) don't tell others what they can and can't do.

[@evaeva8619]

100% voting for Pierre!! He is exactly what Canada needs!!

[@GavinLiamLogan]

He hasn’t got a clue what he’s talking about.

[@thompsonriverrailfan]

​@@GavinLiamLoganeven if that was the case, he would still be the 100 times better than the current useless leader.

[@ivansherbinin]

@@GavinLiamLogan "He hasn’t got a clue what he’s talking about." example?

[@an-albumhole4400]

The UK needs Pierre, A man that talks common sense!

[@sy73326]

Its certainly working well so far.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

She never encountered an addict in her life and it shows. If you supply addict with drugs, they will just take more drugs. Pierre is 100% correct.

[@johnmccall5576]

She hid in government and finally she got promoted to a top position. I've been around those people. Their either never have had any direct experience in the subject matter or they sucked at the application of their craft. She's Yasir Afafat. If you can stick around long enough and crazier people come after you, you can look sane.

[@harryplummer6356]

I watched this when it first happened and it showed what I always felt about the MP was true. Thankfully, she is out of politics. She kept saying these safe places save lives without a shred of evidence. The 2023 stats show how completely wrong she was. Good riddance.

[@CrimsonLibra_20]

Marvin, EXACTLY. Spot on sir. 👍

[@ballmatthew99]

The fact she is the minister of mental health is scary

[@luketracey3269]

She's 72. Age related cognitive decline at the wheel for Canadas mental health pushing cheap opioids . Yeah ...terrifying !

[@hengchen6688]

She needs some

[@classicdufferin8739]

hahaha

[@wrongthinker350]

That would explain why our Healthcare system is going down the toilet.

[@bob3k-ig9sj]

Give her some good stuff! It would be free from our taxes!

[@ThroughYeshuaislife]

I always love how calm Pierre is.

[@joedennehy386]

He is intelligent, calculated, and the new prime minister

[@puttinfoilinyourhat.6174]

Do you also love how many lies per minute he tells or are you too scared,or lazy,to look anything up after a long day of not watching the news?

[@gingersnap8036]

​@@puttinfoilinyourhat.6174 boy, that's an aggressive response to an extremely neutral comment. always remember that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar 😉

[@puttinfoilinyourhat.6174]

@@gingersnap8036 aww,heres a tissue for when yer done clutching your pearls.

[@daniels2848]

@@puttinfoilinyourhat.6174I’d be willing to bet you can not state or provide one single source for the “lies” you claim

[@GusMortis]

As a tax paying Canadian, I'm sick of paying for other people's bad life decisions.

[@adamt5164]

Canadians pay tens of millions millions every year to police and enforce the war on drugs. Either way, you pay.

[@kenhoughton5476]

Are you sick of giving oil companies big tax breaks letting them pollute the landscape at will. They make huge profits they don't need tax breaks and make them clean up there mess. Remember they ARE TAR SANDS not OIL FIELDS.

[@mikelebreton4168]

@@gar1786 Bad comparison . Paying for education benefits everyone .

[@captainkirk9691]

​@Gar so you agree safe supply is dumb, because even if they use safe supply drugs it's still effecting their health in negative ways.

[@rayvanee277]

as a tax payer i'm sick of paying for drug addicts, repeat offenders, revolving jail system, free drugs for drug addicts, and lgbtq+++++xyz whatever rights and and pedofiles performing sex acts for kids in school. so yeah i'm sick of paying for bad decisions. Pay for education, pay for mental health, safe consumption sights is brutal a drain on society, and now you have this crap in the homes seriously Get some common sense end the government being drug dealers, and agenda pusher, and give them treatment if they want treatment

[@benjaminrobinson6507]

So basically she said " i believe my piece of paper instead of reality" .. this is disgusting..

[@wills242]

Hypothesis politics 101. The socialism types live for it.

[@FlowKio]

Or she has and is blind to the truth

[@bandisanst]

As a person living in toronto, it is ridiculous the amount of people openly doing hard drugs out in the street downtown. You would think it was legal.

[@Billshurwin]

In Vancouver it literally is legal. And the police can’t do anything legally.

[@petert1692]

Where? Which places? Forest Hill, Rosedale, etc. where the tax dodgers buy it?

[@annalisavajda252]

It is legal in BC but BC is not Ontario.

[@thelzrdppl]

Someone literally blew crack in my face walking tmdown the street the other day in Toronto

[@MargaritaOjeda-h1v]

Thought it was legal in Toronto now as well? Very sad. Vancouver already did it

[@iicaptainron8868]

The fact that a person can think that giving drugs out for cheap is a good idea. Absolutely blows my mind, this lady needs to be put in a home because she clearly isn’t stable.

[@paulmaclean-kr1qm]

Cheap drugs or crime Take your pick .. A homeless addict most with mental issues .Ok let's " return them to their families" as Pierre stated . Rehab first Housing and ongoing after care for addiction issues. Mental health doctors . A monthly cheque to keep them surviving. Education and training programs. Employment assistance.. Earlier govts tried all this from a starting point being prison to reduce crime . Harper scrapped it all and just built more jails. The cons only care about the rich.. Sure as heck not some poor lost drug addict...

[@dixonpinfold2582]

Not even cheap - _free._

[@p33t3rpark3r]

there studies that say otherwise...just say it...you dont want your taxes to pay for other people's drug

[@dixonpinfold2582]

@@p33t3rpark3r Studies say a lot of things, many of them wrong. All kinds of research is corrupt, botched, can't be replicated. Graduate degrees are handed out largely as participation trophies or like unpaid internships that rich kids land. You didn't know that?🤨

[@ShaggyRogers1]

​@@p33t3rpark3rtheir "studies" show that the drug problem has only gotten worse.

[@jetsdude8]

it's scary that pierre provides data and the woke mental health minister just screams its head off.

[@JonReing]

News reports of talking to random people on the street who agree with him is not data. The minister for mental health pointed out peer reviewed studies that showed how the current policy is improving outcomes

[@rpoutine3271]

@@JonReing 300% increase in overdoses = improving outcomes Yeah right.

[@deeznutsinyourmouth8599]

@@JonReing where are they?

[@Nighttale233]

@@JonReing Even though there are evidently more drug overdose deaths despite providing a “safer environment?”

[@JonReing]

@@Nighttale233 source please. Need academic peer review article

[@kimocoloma4123]

When temper goes up in an argument you, your done.

[@03billygoat]

Boy we’re in trouble if she’s our mental health minister

[@titusmccarthy]

We're in trouble if PEEPEE the fascist clown is our opposition leader and in position to become the next PM. Uh-oh.

[@slickrick3498]

I’m more worried about PP being our Prime Minister. That guy has way too many Red Flags.

[@maryrankin9869]

Mental Health is in shambles. Sad state of affairs.

[@jasonv6319]

@@slickrick3498 name 3 red flags you have 24 hours or your point becomes invalid and irrelevant

[@concars1234]

"mental health minister erupts into fit of rage"

[@VillageTechnologies]

Carolyn Bennet talks about "evidence based" policy making. A few months ago on CBC Radio no less, they interviewed Vancouver doctors who were previously proponents of the safe supply strategy and they said the drugs were being re-sold and actually making the problem worse. Moreover, they were saying the teenagers were now using the "safe" drugs b/c they think they are "safe". So, safe supply is actually creating a new generation of addicts. This according to doctors who were previously for the policy.

[@sjames304]

Shhhhhhhhhhh, don't be speaking any truths here, you Trumper.

[@FailsafeZero]

You make a pretty good point, but did you consider that giving away drugs is EVIDENCE BASED? Case closed.

[@brkbtjunkie]

Who would of thought??

[@smileychess]

But, they’re safe!

[@pineappleenjoyer9297]

Radical thought: Maybe we shouldn’t involve women in politics. The few that are exceptional thinkers can’t compensate for the majority of naive, „well-meant“ female politicians. Alice Weidel is somebody I'd vote for any time, any place.

[@Bshmordok]

I agree. The so called safe supply and harm reduction policy is not reducing addiction, it is perpetuating it. There needs to be much more money spent on treatment options and mandated care for youth and children who are dying on the streets.

[@mraso30]

The treatment options available for addiction are garbage though. By far the best long-term solution is methadone. Safe supply is essentially expanding methadone programs to include a few more opioids that are a bit stronger, for folks whom methadone does not work for. The issue we face though is that unlike methadone, safe supply is being targeted towards the homeless and the waaaaaay down and out addicts of society and not the main population of addicts, and unfortunately homeless people tend to scheme any way they possibly can to make money so they sell their meds, buy cheap fentanyl and make a small profit as well. They need to be forced to consume the dilaudid/hydromorphone on site in front of the pharmacist, just like methadone patients are forced to do. The thing is, you'll find once you do force a rule like that, interest in this program will fall, because right now it is just a means by which the homeless population diverts pharmaceuticals to addicts who prefer clean drugs, and the homeless just keep using their dirty fentanyl. I tried to get on safe supply when I was hooked on fentanyl and ODing all the time. I was not allowed on it because I was not homeless, the message was basically "Come back when your life completely and utterly falls apart, and hopefully you survive until then, then you can get on hydromorphone" it is the stupidest implementation ever. Reasonable, responsible, semi-well-adjusted addicts are denied a safe, clean supply, but the absolute bottom of the barrel addicts who contribute ZERO to society are given the free clean drugs. Completely backwards. Should be trying to save the addicts who still have some hope and wits about them, most homeless fentanyl addicts are beyond saving at this point. Sucks to hear, but it is true, they're the types who would sell their mother for a hit. We need to support people who can semi-function in their addiction, with programs like this. Those who are homeless, who've lost their mind from drugs, they're the ones who need FORCED rehabilitation because they will NEVER lead a reasonable life on drugs. Never ever ever. They've proven how woefully incapable they are at managing drugs. It is either get clean, or they're gonna die. Other addicts though, who seem to handle drugs better, could really benefit from a safe, clean, cheap supply of drugs. Now methadone is working again for me and I have nearly 9 months clean, but I nearly died again in March 2023 before I got better with methadone, and my physical health took a massive hit during the last months of using fentanyl. All that could have been avoided if I was even allowed to go on safe supply, but I wasn't allowed on, because I don't completely give up every single last piece of my integrity to my drug addiction. I feel we need way more support for the addicts who maintain levels of functionality and who want to do good, and we need to start ignoring these absolute waste of space ones. They are terrible, conniving, thieving, disgusting individuals, I know many - but I also know many addicts with huge hearts and who don't screw people over and who are loved by friends and family and those folks barely get NOTHING in terms of government or healthcare supports. It all goes to the complete down and outs who rob, lie, cheat, steal, deal drugs, abandon their kids, etc. We waste so much resources on the worst off 5% or so of drug addicts that we leave behind the other 95% who aren't total wastes of time..

[@shakebabyhitler]

And how many have died since this "harm reduction" plan has been in place?

[@EpicForeverFriends]

@EpicForeverFriends 0 seconds ago Yes fix the mental health, bring back safe mental asylum ike Tranquilal fix the sick dont put them in jail or purgatory

[@1bluensx]

I’m a MD. Board verified in addiction/internal medicine, and emergency medicine. These government programs are killing people in masses. Why they would purposely spend money in safe injection sites, clean needles, etc is beyond me. It is having the NET effect of killing a lot more people AND getting a lot more people addicted. Politicians don’t have common sense. Speeding in cars kills. This is the equivalent of giving every person that likes to speed a Lamborghini, Porsche, and a helmet, and encouraging them to drive-200mph everywhere. Cause it’s “safer” right? I also completely disagree with the legalization of marijuana. Long know as “ the gateway drug”. It hasn’t lost that title. Money should be spent on detox and rehab programs (AND NO, I DON’T OWN ONE)

[@2GringosOnTheGulf]

It's putting powerful drugs in the hands of children 🤬

[@connormartin1618]

Pumping public funds into a "safe supply" of drugs is one of the craziest things I've ever heard.

[@Rsparing]

"Just stop it and save lives" I want this to be told to every parent who sees their child getting easy drugs from addicts who are entitled and should be held accountable

[@xaviermachiavelli5236]

The price is wrong bob and your right thats what and who brings her home...

[@Rsparing]

@@xaviermachiavelli5236 huh?

[@seansimpson8758]

Ignorance isn't an excuse 😅 Try using critical thought instead of your gut.

[@illmagical]

Should be held accountable lol. Another fan boy of the prison industrial complex. Or is that where they get "treatment". Pierre's buddies can all pay for their treatment. The addicted middle class are just out of sight. Most of these politicians are hyped up on amphetamines as well.

[@youtubeuser206]

safe supply does save lives 100% and easier access lowers crime rates

[@markymarkvancity]

After seeing our "minister of mental health" speak I see why mental health services are so bad they might as well be non existent in this country.

[@MkBl-ll5zp]

Mental minister is MENTAL!

[@AllisonMoon-SheWandersFeral]

Tories screwed Mental Health services for decades & jacked up the War on Drugs, instead of rehab But you’re mad that we aren’t criminalizing harder? Brilliant

[@maryrankin9869]

SHHHHHHSHHHHHH it's a secret!

[@melrobertson2743]

Because if it were top notch she'd be out of a job and in a long term care home

[@stephy5367]

They basically are none existent. It’s awful.

[@rameezbakhat4273]

Pierre is 100% right, and as a practicing pharmacist. what Leader of Opposition is saying 100% right

[@jafo766]

Amazing how many like you have popped up as pharmacist here in Canada and just in time to dole out opioids to old stock Tommy McMook's , futt me in all what a $troke of LcUK lad'$.

[@samadams7224]

@@AstroBear11 It's a medical term. Get back to class.

[@samadams7224]

You don't stop people ingesting poison by giving them more poison.

[@chadsimmons4496]

The leader of the opposition is worthless. His way is the drug war and private prisons.

[@cabbagedestroyer1693]

​​@@AstroBear11 that is the actual medical term. I assume you don't know much about medical licensing or practices.

[@VyseSolo]

Retired drug rehab nurse in the NE US....government pays from 4k to 7k a stay for rehab. A stay is 7 days minimum. Rehab with additional days after the 7 for detox rehab is ordered. Patient leaves AMA they can go to another site every 30 days. So, every 30 days, they can be admitted into a rehab. Rehab patients can cost the government an average of 65k a year each. Also, they are told they must take drugs to be admitted. They have to fail a drug test on admission. Rehabs won't accept people just for rehabilitation purposes. It's a bad business model, and the treatment fails 90% of the time.

[@rlumsden31]

This comment needs more likes!

[@avery6950]

Sad that 99% of people in these comments, including the addicts seem to have little sympathy and empathy. For every person that gets off opiates 99 wont and a a good portion of them will OD. Relapse rate is 99% for opiates.

[@patriciarose7836]

It's a bad business model because, it's a business!...The cartel IS the government...they make money by keeping people sick...you won't convince me otherwise. I have lived it and I see it daily. Here in Canada treatment can run between 20 to 45 thousand dollars PER month. The average person who suffers with addiction needs a minimum of six months...you do the math...and these are all private unregulated facilities...anything government funded has wait list that are horribly long and are only 30 to 60 days at best...the average being 30 days. Its disgusting. The liberal government created a problem and their solution to the problem is subpar at best. Shove the statistics because they are fudged like every other static they hang their hats on.

[@victors.7810]

It's a shame that people don't actually look into how complicated it is to have effective "rehab". As you've stated, it's not a one-day process, and Mr. Poilievre certainly makes it seem that way. It would be interesting to have real statistics on the effectiveness of rehab centers vs. the current solution.

[@lantherpagdi]

Addicts have multiplied 10 times atleast in the past decade. Glad that somebody is raising this issue. It's scary to see so many people's lives ruined.

[@adamt5164]

There are many things people can be addicted to, and any of them can ruin a person's life if they take over completely. In the case of illicit drugs, it isn't the addiction that's the main thing that ruins people's lives, it's that the drugs are illegal.

[@kevinansley2087]

There being ruined by taking both parents out of the home for 40% of a week's hours... one parent could support a family before... but yay crony capitalism...

[@adamt5164]

@Samm Salvey Strawman argument with 'addicted to crossword puzzles.' Change that to 'addicted to video games' or 'addicted to say Tik Tok' and yes, for many people it's no different. The same parts of the brain light up, the same addiction and obsession. There are many users of cocaine and other harder drugs who are in the middle class, who have full time jobs and who are successful because they have access to these drugs without having to resort to crime and with minimal danger of being arrested. Your arguments are based on stigma and stereotypes from 'reefer madness.' of course, beyond that, if people choose to ruin their lives with whatever, in a free society, as long as they don't directly harm you, it's none of your business.

[@adamt5164]

@Samm Salvey Also, your way isn't working (or what I presume is your way with prohibition.) Because the drugs are illegal there is no quality control, this is the cause of the vast majority of drug deaths, from drugs laced with fentanyl. It would be wrong to say that nobody dies from alcohol, but certainly there are many less deaths from alcohol because nobody has to drink wood alcohol, for instance, to 'get a buzz.' Of course, alcohol addiction also destroys lives, but I don't hear anybody seriously suggesting bringing in alcohol prohibition. or bringing back alcohol prohibition if they're an American. People recognize that with alcohol, prohibition doesn't work. It doesn't with hard drugs either. Seriously, to say the, I guess, next worst addiction to drugs is to crossword puzzles really showed the silliness of your argument. People can ruin their lives with many addictions, but anybody who sees what's going on must have status quo bias or something to not recognize that by far the vast majority of drug deaths are a direct result of them being illegal.

[@RaZcal911]

Wait till the BC experiment is done and Heroin and cocaine are legal in all NDP/Liberal provinces.

[@louisboland9149]

She is unfit to be the minister of mental health

[@daren9721]

Too much drugs 😂

[@noblenessdee6151]

in more ways than one

[@thesupremeveggieburger427]

Hes unfit to be Pm or leader of the opposition

[@asdfasdf-zz4ep]

Better off gone

[@boblee6101]

@@thesupremeveggieburger427 you’re going to be unfit in general in a few years. There’s a reason there are more ex vegans than actual vegans

[@kaossplude2957]

absolutely true. as a recovering addict myself feeding these addicts drugs instead of trying to help them recover is ridiculous

[@kahlernygard809]

I use opiates daily for chronic pain. I've never committed a crime while using using them to the contrary I've saved lives while on opiates. Once in Gauley river WV and another time two lives in Colorado mountain pass. If I was stuck in bed at home due to pain they would have died.

[@unamusedarchitect1646]

@@kahlernygard809you sound like a paid endorsement.

[@Anton-ys2xs]

@@kahlernygard809 We're not debating medically prescribed pain medications. We just don't wanna give free heroin to addicts on the streets.

[@btgkg9639]

@@kahlernygard809Considering you keep copy and pasting this exact comment and you are a bot.

[@kahlernygard809]

@unamusedarchitect1646 nope, just someone who cares about the right for one to relieve their suffering through medicine of thier choice. This war on drugs is anti freedom and I'll fight against tyranny every chance I get

[@carolmartin8781]

I have an MSW from SDSU and worked in drug rehab after I graduated in 1999. I have studied the problem of drug addiction including alcoholism, (which is a mind-altering drug), and I can tell you that Pierre nailed it. We have Methadone clinics in the U.S. and they serve no useful purpose except to help the government keep track of who the addicts are.

[@davidkruse4030]

You studied addiction and then go on to make false statements. Methadone saves lives. Yes it is liquid handcuffs. It helps some people. MAT is effective up to 40%.

[@saramartin4791]

my dad died from alcoholism and one of my high school friends died 2 years ago from opioids from "safe supply"

[@carolmartin8781]

@@saramartin4791 I can relate. My stepdad and 2 brothers died from alcoholism as well as several friends. I also lost my daughter to a drug overdose.

[@waynelust9431]

Carolyn Bennet is the poster child for why we need term limits for politicians.

[@felixarsenault7838]

Does this make you a Bigot because you think old people are useless. Some members were very disrespectful with their catcalling and the reason some of there ingrates should not be there.

[@clarkstrange2142]

Maybe for Canadians. For us Yanks it’s Dianne Feinstein and/or Mitch McConnell

[@deangailwahl8270]

Actually we term limits for MORONIC voters.

[@JohnParks-zc1pn]

Nah, just vote them out.

[@officeguy3]

I think the Minister of Mental Health needs a mental health checkup.

[@rameezbakhat4273]

Agree

[@therealpvc2541]

@@aavanassan lol she looks more like the wicked witch than Freeland does.

[@latoya-ul6km]

​@@therealpvc2541 I just told my husband the same thing ..😂😂😂😂

[@patrickgoulet8170]

She won't make it to the appointment if she doesn't get opioids it sounds like though lol.

[@TheJlee28]

Cos she’s passed her prime long ago due to TruDoped poison 😢😢😢😢

[@peterfehr7441]

I wish they would stop using the word honourable. There is so very little honour in the government

[@wqv5423ln]

Isn't that the truth! Dishonorable is what they are!

[@johnhein4851]

Positive reinforcement of wicked and evil people by other wicked and evil people. We need to disband the Federal government. We are basically paying them billions of dollars to destroy our lives.

[@neige4221]

True

[@maryrankin9869]

Right? LOL

[@alexleblanc5926]

I cringe everytime they say right honorable Prime Minister

[@pil0tfisch439]

Getting people to stop doing drugs by giving them free drugs is INSANE

[@SvendleBerries]

Enabling addiction NEVER helped addicts get clean. As an alcoholic, it infuriates me that politicians put more time and money into "helping" people get high than actually being able to get actual help and pay bills. _Everything_ is ridiculously expensive, so heres some cheap drugs to make you forget about how bad youre being screwed by the government. They did that in the Soviet Union with cheap liquor.

[@TECO1234]

The wef and ccp pay them

[@saramartin4791]

i'd prefer my tax dollars to go towards helping them get clean with counseling and rehab instead of this crap

[@SvendleBerries]

@@saramartin4791 Agreed.

[@vickiehill3960]

Right on Pierre! First time treatment has been mentioned. Communities are tired of seeing needles and packets of drugs everywhere. The drug house that hands the stuff out has left shopping carts full of unused products outside their building in our community. My friend used to go out daily and clean up. He went to the Liberals office to show them and they didn't give a crap. Politicians should be ashamed of themselves for what they have done. Drug addicts get free needles but diabetics have to pay.

[@Timberland1963]

I don’t think that Canada should have a health minister that is senile.

[@wqv5423ln]

What about mad, screaming Karen?

[@carlogervasi5393]

Take her back to the nursing home! Clueless

[@Stephen_D421]

I think she had a stroke someone should call an ambulance.

[@MrMagnuminium]

No doubt if i yelled like that at my job, id lose it.

[@Smile.911]

​@@Stephen_D421she is giving me a stroke

[@minimalistviolinist3238]

Dear Canadians! I enjoy watching this from Florida. Bring it home!!!

[@lucgruffaz7750]

I am actually living and still breathing at ground zero for fentanyl addiction, in the Vancouver downtown inside . We are the capital for failed experiment , the soft approach toward addiction doesn't work , let's stop enabling the addicts for what they cannot control and our liberal government is just feeding the addiction, therefore killing them....

[@LisaHachey]

And Trudeau’s China buddies who are bringing the deadly drugs into Canada so he can eliminate the old stock and vulnerable.

[@craigwynia5280]

Exactly right I know myself as Im also a friend of Bill W.😊 happy recovery 👍👍

[@chadsimmons4496]

The “soft” approach? Lol What’s your plan? Private prisons like the US? Because their “tough” approach has worked so wonderfully?

[@cabbagedestroyer1693]

@@chadsimmons4496 who says you need to put them in prison? Unless you are admitting that these addicts are dangerous and is a threat to the society unless they are fed drugs.

[@chadsimmons4496]

@@cabbagedestroyer1693 Poilievre says that. That was the CPC plan in 2015. Private prison expansion for a plant… a plant big pharma spent billions lobbying against legalizing. Conservatives aren’t serious liberal critics.

[@JustinBelcourt]

I'm a Pilot and Captain at Regional Airline and I stay downtown in a different Canadian city about three times a week i.e. Vancouver, Saskatoon, Regina, Nanaimo, Prince George, Kamloops, Kelowna, Edmonton, Fort Mac, Fort St.John, Terrace, Penticton etc.. It's obvious to anyone with common sense how bad things have become. When I walk downtown pretty much anywhere, I feel extremely unsafe due to the shear number of drug addicts and their unpredictability. I am not unsympathetic to these individuals. My brother died in 2020 from a fentanyl overdose just weeks after he was layed off from his job as an electrician due to the covid lockdowns. We was not an addict before the lockdowns...

[@wqv5423ln]

So sorry for your loss! Did you know that Biden's open border policies are costing 300 lives per day of young people overdosing on fentenyl? Not to mention illegal guns, criminals, drug dealers!

[@MrMagnuminium]

EXACTLY. I HAVE FAM TOO. SORRY TO HEAR.

[@elizabethinnes9404]

I am so sorry for your loss.

[@chuckthebuilder77]

😢

[@biglukasabc]

Yeah i'm in AB and during the lock down there was more tinfoil at the transit stations then i ever seen before, of course for fentanyl. Everyone started doing the zoombi hang. It's still like that here now. That was not around so hard core 3 years before the government over reach, fear morngoring communist lock downs. Conservatives should be ashamed of themselves for lock downs too.

[@notthatnick5546]

That Minister of mental health looks and sounds unhinged. 😂 Gotta love the way Pierre remains calm at all times.

[@HigherLove7059]

Yes those crazy narcissists... especially when they're called out on their evil. 🤫

[@gingersnap8036]

lmao right? rather ironic, with a job title like that

[@shelb3375]

I'm a recovering fentanyl addict and have been clean 4 years. I am lucky to have gotten out of it before the safe supply started being provided to everyone.There is no reason to get out of addiction if you have no consequences and that is what safe supply is doing. Everywhere I go there is people using drugs out in the open in front of everyone. It makes me sick seeing this. These policies are really just enabling addicts to stay the way they are. I also work in a shelter and a majority of addicts are on safe supply and are still using fentanyl. The worst part is they are selling their safe supply to others and then going to get fentanyl. Addicts want the better hit, and regulated drugs don't give the high they are looking for.

[@TheCSC017]

Just because she says it louder doesn't make her right.

[@samsunggalaxyj3prime889]

This old lady finally had a chance to speak in parliament and clearly wanted to make it memorable and she certainly accomplished that. Wow, she flipped out pretty quickly

[@Rzs31]

How typical though

[@BrendaMcLaughlin-xe5dj]

She recently stepped down. Please support the Conservatives Candidate in her riding.

[@bachelorsuite7066]

The evidence is that the situation is getting worse. Decade by decade, addiction has risen with the availability of street poison.

[@josslyn333]

It’s so much more complex than that. Conservatives thrive on simple single variable solutions that don’t work. Ignoring the problem seems illogical to me. Getting help for people who don’t want it doesn’t work. Plus, there are more than a few different reasons for the rise in addiction, and safe government drugs are only part of it. They’ve given half measured solutions where people are still exposed to dangerous environments in order to access what they believe is their medicine.

[@WiseOwl_1408]

​@@josslyn333 handing out more is not ignoring it. It's explicitly increasing it. Starting your point by just calling people dumb is childish and doesn't change any minds. Stop being so hateful

[@josslyn333]

@@WiseOwl_1408 it’s not calling anyone disabled. It’s pointing out a manipulation tactic that’s being used.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

The drug cartels are making a killing. It's not the Liberals who keep letting them infiltrate. The police need to step up.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

And why is this t available? Drug cartels making a massive profit from it. Doctors prescribing opiates like crazy.

[@Mr.A.J.1]

This is way better than American debates, Pierre seems like a smart guy

[@clarkkent1215]

Our health minister looks like she's been doing medical herion since 1910

[@ChrisNelnyk-nz2ct]

She appears to be a complete sociopath.

[@criticRN]

😂😂truth

[@DRPL766]

Making the insidious drugs more accessible to addicts isn't the answer. That makes it worse

[@nuxkamina]

like providing food for ppl starving or shelter for ppl without a home. Better when we had gangs run the drug trade. so much better getting it from big drug cartels and biker gangs.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

Speak for yourself.

[@4barrl]

@@nuxkamina at least the tax payers weren't paying the gangs.

[@patrickgoulet8170]

@@MayThereBeWorldPeace they probably were but since you wanna but in, you sound like an addict. Just so you know.

[@Trythis837]

@@nuxkamina providing free food and housing doesn’t help people either. All it leads to is more people asking for free food and housing.

[@mikecimerian6913]

If she is so confident in the measures that were taken by the government, she should be able to deliver about the results in a calm and composed manner.

[@DutchVai]

I think she learned that hollow outrage from her drama teacher.

[@jmohafa6939]

Better yet she should place the safe injection sites in the trudoe ndp upper class areas of town and around thier private schools...amazing how people who have no experience or pay the price for the decisions they make .

[@seansimpson8758]

Yeah, why would she get emotional due to people dying. She needs to be more robotic like PP and pretend to care.

[@jmohafa6939]

@@seansimpson8758 it's the tax paid additive drugs handed out causing the people to die. Factual information and just looking at places that implement free drugs are 10x worse off..liberals ndp use only emotional propaganda because they can't debate Factual information.

[@neilnand7357]

Well said

[@kilikdudley]

America needs constant debate between our party leaders. We should adopt this style of politics

[@saramartin4791]

it'd be a lot more interesting it would show who stands strong and who doesn't another thing it shows is body language and it can be pretty easy to tell who's lying and who isn't

[@brianwong863]

Propagating the problem doesn't solve it. Every location with a safe injection site in Toronto has negatively affected the area. Drug dealers show up, turf wars kick off, addicts wonder around, needles found all over and crime spiking up. Businesses robbed or vandalized, people mugged and not to mention the overall vibe with people high out of their minds tucked away in dark corners or unpredictable/violent ones acting out all over the place. TTC has groups of people at Yonge and Dundas station hanging around elevators shooting up or harassing other riders. Enabling bad behaviour at scale is a bad policy. Even worse, cherry picking SMEs pulls the plug on any good faith debates. Pulling bad science papers or blogs to suggest the data shows these policies work is worse than lying...it's poisoning the pond. Look at the blue states that have implemented similar policies. Don't just do what feels good...follow the evidence even if it hurts.

[@donnicholson3170]

Very well said.

[@drblitzzz]

You've been duped. The problem isn't that your feelings are getting hurt by people getting high in your neighborhood. The problem is that people are dieing due to increasing levels of fentanal in the illicit drug supply. Safe supply aims to stop people dieing. f your feelings

[@HamidA-to8vy]

Add to that over dose cases has never come down

[@aavanassan]

This is serious matter indeed

[@jakehergel4674]

Zero evidence safe injection sites cause crime.

[@johnchamberlain5435]

As a recovering opioid addict, I am compelled to state the reality: Coddling drug users is not the answer; the addict has to hit bottom. Only then will he seek treatment and recovery. At that point, traetment is essential. Harsh laws bring an addict to his bottom, not free drugs!

[@avery6950]

Harsh laws bring an addict to his death not his bottom.

[@davidkruse4030]

The reality is this isn’t 2008 anymore. Rock bottom is overdose death and it comes easy.

[@stuliw272]

Best to keep stupid opinions like that to yourself

[@johnchamberlain5435]

@@stuliw272 Thanks for the compliment, but I'm married.

[@leslieross9729]

The health minister says if you say it loud enough and often enough people will believe it. The Liberal mantra.

[@tntcanada420]

Conservative conspiracy theories far worse...liberals have actual facts.

[@paolobenedicti1319]

I think that someone else used to say something similar, about 80 years ago. I believe the name was Goebbels.

[@TheJlee28]

But it’s in the past 😂😂😂😂

[@mikecimerian6913]

@@paolobenedicti1319 If you repeat a lie often enough it will become truth. JG

[@beckyheino1361]

Catherine McKenna has said this

[@dwanewarrenn3951]

Narcan is treatment & recovery . It cost 100million annually 😂. Rehab centers cost way more... Can't make change without spending bills

[@crankshaft007]

Maybe this minister needs to visit the streets of Vancouver? And talk to the first responders about how great it’s working

[@Sufux7]

it’s like Ohio now there they hide guns under tents unbelievable!

[@youtubeuser206]

im sure she has spent a lot of time there. i have. you cant arrest your way out of a drug problem. safe supply and social services are the most cost effective and save the most lives.

[@cabbagedestroyer1693]

​@@youtubeuser206 There is not safe supply. Calling hard-core drugs safe is the most ironic thing I've heard. There has been 300% more overdose deaths today compared to 8 years ago. Could you explain to me how this approach has saved lives?

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

They did do a study on it and it’s working for a lot of ppl that are taking the safe supply, it’s not hard to find out, well for normal thinking ppl, conservatives just live in their safe space bubble! Lol

[@cabbagedestroyer1693]

@Dave G The issue is that in Canada, they have only implemented 1/3 of the study in comparison to what they did in Portugal. In other countries, in order to obtain the supply, you are obligated to sit down in a class session with a therapist for hours and forced to be productive. Only then could you obtain the drugs provided by the government. It seems that you think you know more than you actually do without actually reading the study or knowing the situation.

[@luantrang5624]

Minister of Mental Heath doesn’t seem so mentally stable

[@wilfsask]

I think she seriously has Mental Problems

[@harpbasi5366]

She’s f up

[@titusmccarthy]

@@harpbasi5366 PeePee is a raving lunatic. Just look at him rage and froth at the mouth.

[@matti8894]

Enabling addicts is never the solution. Only thing these policies are doing is giving kids access to opioids.

[@bradm6287]

All of which are peoples' choices.

[@GuilhermeM-t1p]

​@@bradm6287 Kids choice?

[@chadsimmons4496]

Access to opioids is not a government problem.

[@matti8894]

@@chadsimmons4496 sure it is. It’s called public safety.

[@chadsimmons4496]

@@matti8894 public safety is called regulation actually… something conservatives strongly oppose… but the opioid crisis is not a government problem. It’s a for-profit pharma problem.

[@PsyFeist]

this lady here.... she's not a keeper

[@jn9604]

As a Canadian I am continually embarrasses by the behaviour of our elected offocials regardless of party ... no wonder there is a mess in Canada on just about every major issue.

[@TocYounger]

Thank you! Finally, some sense. I hate how political discourse in our country has just turned to anger and virtue signaling... on all sides! All we see is this performance crap, instead of dealing with the many real problems facing our country from a place of evidence and rational thinking. Instead of policy, we get incessant buzz words.

[@gytan2221]

It’s become like the country south of our border

[@TentaclePentacle]

The minster for mental health is not only a minster but also a client.

[@1008chaz]

The same minister that told us sui☠️idal people won't be allowed on the medical assisted dying list is now telling us the first step for people to get clean is a clean hit. I think she is the one who needs help.

[@pierregauthier3077]

This didn't age well

[@patrickweber7764]

A very good friend of mine just buried his 24 year old son. He had problems with opioids. And not enough support for treatment. The real people who suffer are the ones left behind. I don't think my buddy will ever be the same guy. It really bothers me that this issue isn't being addressed properly in my opinion. Addicts need help to get clean. Not more drugs!!!!

[@youtubeuser206]

if he had access to a safe supply of opioids untainted from fentanyl he would be alive

[@gracebalkowski4902]

For seniors they givings very poor medicals to shame Trudeau 🇨🇦💔👎👎❓❓❓😡👿 💙💙💙PPC💙💙💙we need help

[@patrickweber7764]

@@youtubeuser206 re read my last line...and tell me how adding fuel puts out fires

[@kevinmanning4880]

​@@youtubeuser206 if was in a treatment center he wouldn't need drugs from the street. Treatment includes weening off drugs with safe drugs, not just an endless supply of safe drugs.

[@kevinmanning4880]

@@abalister6661 another reason could be the learning environment, bullies at school don't help either. Or just need a tutor to get through school.

[@MrRon2525]

As the father of a fentanil addicted daughter I with Pierre We need treatment centers and junkies need to be forced into them.

[@ragepig1059]

those liberal politicians don`t care about addicts. Addicts are a pawn to them, look how nice we are, look how good and kind we are and how evil those guys are, it`s so sinister and most people fall for it who are weak minded. And as a feminist I have to admit it's mostly women look at that house! UGHHHHH lol

[@CrybabyPierre]

Judging by how you spell, I think you’re the one who’s secretly a fentanyl* addict. Calling your daughter a junkie, clearly shows you’ve most likely influenced her into being an addict.

[@MrRon2525]

@@AllisonMoon-SheWandersFerali It does say a lot about the issue. Ive called all drug addict junkies in the last 40 years. Just because it hits close to home doesnt mean I'll change the language i use. And if you knew how to read I used the term drug addicted when i referred to her and Junkies when i referred to all the others.

[@leannecomerford8261]

You can't help someone who doesn't want it. Those that do have limited options, and inevitability wind up in the same position. Governments shut down psychiatric facilities, shut down programs that taught them a trade so they could then enter society and thrive. Shut down access to mental health and addiction recovery programs. Safe supply is the more important than tainted drugs are what are driving the overdoses up.

[@MrRon2525]

@@AllisonMoon-SheWandersFeral People being addicted to drugs has nothing to do with ones upbringing. most people with horrible childhoods dont become drug addicts. People become drug addicts because they cant cope with society. They can be helped with tough love and not with excuses and government handouts and free drugs and injection centers

[@aidandevlin2298]

Carolyn Bennett is wack. Straight up evil to think that giving drugs to people that are hopelessly addicted will help is insane.

[@theeouttheres3083]

because the war on drugs worked right? all the laws, all the police, all the money spent, it worked right? it worked where in the world? us? uk? china? russia?

[@WiseOwl_1408]

​@@theeouttheres3083 it seems to have gotten far worse without it. Not a good augment comrade. Not at all.

[@therealpvc2541]

wackier than the Freeloader.

[@kamenrob8500]

​@@theeouttheres3083 no the war on drugs didn't work but you think flooding the streets with legal drugs which end up sold on the street is better? I've seen it myself witnessed it many times and watched as those people who would their drugs for stronger drugs od.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

She is not evil. She knows the evidence and is passionate about it. I love that passion.

[@coolchickz999]

You go Pierre !!!! ❤❤❤

[@gitbint]

Her😮tweaking and eye twitching is enough for me to go "👎👎, This Woman Should Not Be in A Political Position of ANY KIND OF Power" 👈😢

[@giomoore6482]

Nope not any liberal should be in power

[@Fastcarsforme]

In the interior of BC, a fire fighter told me that they had an increase of 450 calls for overdoses Jan-April alone from the previous year. This is in one city alone. The social experiment for safe supply has failed. Treatment and stiffer trafficking penalties should be implemented and soon. Here in BC, where hard drug possession has been legalized has now caused addicts from all over Canada to flock here and plug up our emergency services, resulting in deaths of people who have to wait longer for Emergency Services due to these addicts. Don't give them more drugs, give them help to get off of the drugs so they can contribute to society or maybe take away the Naloxone so the system isn't abused, might make one think twice about what they are putting in their body.

[@criticRN]

Agree - the free drugs and narcan is rewarding drug addicts. It’s insane.

[@clownknives]

I like how she thinks yelling makes her argument more legitimate, and she fails to mention that yes, her argument is based on facts, but the level of sophistry put into those numbers is obvious to anyone who's thought about it for 2 seconds or taken a statistics course. I cannot believe the level of lies coming out of these people.

[@bobmcbob9603]

Amen!

[@walleyehunter1541]

She a nut like trudope

[@jhenz1926]

PP is talking about forced rehab (incase you didn’t read through the political jargon) which is already been proven to not work effectively. His tactic isn’t to help addicts is to get them off the streets so we can forget about them. Until they do something that ends up with jail time. What is the goal? To help addicts or lock them up so we don’t have to see them? What is food for thought is PP opinions on the prison system. Always bashing Trudeau for easy access to bail, heavier punishments, Paul Bernardo. He seems to be really in tune with wanting more people in jail and keeping people in jail. Even criticizing JT for not using his power to overturn Corrections Department rulings. I’m wondering if some private prison systems are in the future if he get elected?

[@jhenz1926]

@@bobmcbob9603 forced rehab is very expensive and is highly ineffective. I’m not saying tent cities and safe injection sites are better but maybe the two sides could actually work together and figure out a blended way between the two. To go back to a way that is already known not to work doesn’t seem like the common sense approach.

[@bobmcbob9603]

@@jhenz1926 I apologize the emotion of the issue can flare up in me occasionally. I agree you cannot force someone to quit longer than you can isolate them from the entire world. I really do believe though that individuals must face the consequences of their actions. I do also believe that people can change and that change can only be effected in a contrite humbled individual call it broken if you will.

[@shashipal5561]

LOTS OF PEOPLE DYING EVERY DAY 😢😢😢 PKEASE DO HELP THEM

[@nikkic2581]

My uncle is absolutely hooked on fentanyl. I never thought I'd see the day. He hit his bottom and attempted to go to detox and start getting help. In northern bc that is hard to do. He was turned away and sent back out to the streets. It's been a week and I haven't heard a word. This country and this province is really rotting quickly.

[@SmokeyMcb]

My brother died due to an overdose of Opioids as a result of Justin Trudeau's lawlessness and disregard for human lives. Justin Trudeau needs to be removed from the government as soon as possible and have Justin Trudeau charged and punished for his crimes against humanity.

[@dukemocchi]

Everyone should take a tour of Vancouvers downtown east side to see how ‘well’ Liberal policies are working.

[@WiseOwl_1408]

I'd call it progressive policies.... Liberals didn't used to be insane. JT sure pushed them far from the center.

[@daren9721]

​@@WiseOwl_1408 agree

[@donnicholson3170]

It was horrible when I left Vancouver 13 years ago and it's gotten steadily worse. Time for tough love.

[@nuxkamina]

no, everyone should look at the facts, statistics and data...thankfully looking out your window at a street isn't how this issue is managed.

[@kamenrob8500]

​@@nuxkamina no but iboeing clear signs that weren't there previously is a start no ? Continue to ignore or make excuses for drug addict behavior the only place for them is rehab or prison , if you're more than inclined to help them out why not open up your home ?

[@DRPL766]

Harm reduction looks towards facilitating treatment... not flooding the system with the insidious drugs !

[@mikearchibald744]

There IS no treatment, thats the problem. The system ALREADY is flooded with drugs, and drugs that kill. So its better to have drugs aroudn that DON"T. To say otherwise is to say you WANT these people to simply die.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

Excuse me, it is the drug cartels who are infiltrating.

[@UriahandDad]

Addiction is not a sickness, it is a choice nothing other than that

[@Joe-bc7si]

Minister of Mental Health looks like she's going through withdrawl.

[@WiseOwl_1408]

She believes the science. Government science.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

Why, because she can't stand little PP's manipulative ways? She's great!!

[@Windsofchange2023]

@@MayThereBeWorldPeacefree drugs free drugs let’s help the addicts by giving away free drugs! Keep the zombies fed. Don’t let them die let them stay zombies and steal, murder and litter the streets with needles and feces.

[@boblee6101]

@@MayThereBeWorldPeace and yet their policy has failed

[@socksrwooly]

​@@MayThereBeWorldPeaceshes going to have a stroke. But everyone knows that when you give out drugs like candy it doesnt reduce drug use at all. More kids are getting on it in Vancouver because it is now cheap and plentiful.

[@desertdawg3480]

Pierre is right. Carolyn Bennett is wrong. Taxpayer money should only be used for rehabilitation and not used to enable addicts to continue down their path of self destruction

[@gigi1ggame532]

That lady is insane! Wow! 😮

[@christopherlussier4383]

I Will NEVER vote Liberal or NDP.... Again.

[@Morningstack]

I think she doesn't want her cheap supply to run out lol

[@dehavillandcanadatwinotter9621]

Yeah, she definitely sounds and looks like she’s on some sort of drugs

[@novitrix9671]

Lmao

[@gitbint]

Her😮tweaking and eye twitching is enough for me to go "👎👎, This Woman Should Not Be in A Political Position of ANY KIND OF Power" 👈😢

[@kingkoi6542]

That's how a few of these crooks make their pay...

[@emilecossette7570]

You think statistics are black and white. You have one party say one thing and another say completely something else. Its ridiculous. I live in vancouver and whatever the liberals are doing, isnt working. I side with the conservatives on this one

[@JackieBillyTom]

siding with conservatives in this day & age is the correct way to go about life

[@titusmccarthy]

@@JackieBillyTom PeePee is a fascist dork.

[@vancouverbluesea]

How can a person quit drugs if they use more of them? If a person is alcoholic - can you cure that person with more alcohol? If that was the case - the liquor store would have been free (all payed for by the government as a safe medical supply). How can you claim success on saved overdoses when at the same time you ignore - the overall increase of users?

[@samadams7224]

You don't stop people ingesting poison by giving them more poison.

[@amandaelliott7953]

Can you put a fire out by throwing gas on it? Nope.

[@0Synergy]

@@amandaelliott7953 If you pour enough gas on it before it can catch fire you can. Maybe thats their plan?

[@fitzywings92]

Have you not ever heard of the consequences/impacts of withdrawal? Or of overdose as a result a lower tolerance caused by extended imprisonment?

[@swtmelody416]

​@@0Synergythat sounds more like an explosion to me...

[@Neopitpit]

PIERRE IS A REAL BEAST. It is the guys that says the truth FOR US in this world. HE has MY 100% vote !!!! I would to precise something. It is the work of a team for sure but he is the team leader., He is the team leader for a reason, and he is going to know how to help him to be better. THANKS for ALL Of his team members!!!

[@aalexis3]

As a tax paying Canadian I refuse to pay so that others can indulge. I think it’s time for everyone to face the consequences of their choices, good, bad, or deadly. I also have an addiction for spending money on a better life, but no one is willing to fund me for it. We have medicalized every single bad behaviour so that those indulging can forgo any kind of responsibility for their choices in life. Enough.

[@tracymartin3398]

Absolutely 💯 true

[@kerrigrandmaison7844]

This is life and death

[@justjoking5841]

Your taxes should be better spent on things that are important. Indeed that is quite true.

[@ab8588]

You can play for the drug wars and have a bigger police state.

[@ccreature7086]

your last line is prophetic - the "medical" (pharmaceutical) industry isn't finished yet..... 🤕 "We have medicalized every single bad behavior so that those indulging can forgo any kind of responsibility for their choices in life"

[@anjemacinema9428]

Carolyn Bennett as both a physician and politician is scary. Wicked actually.

[@tofinoguy]

hahahahaha

[@PktJack]

Michael Shellenberger, who wrote a great book that touches on the subject said it best in a tweet "Allowing cities to create “safe injection sites” for heroin, meth, and fentanyl drug users is an incomplete fix. These sites have only been shown to work in countries which also employ a suite of police and health care interventions for their chronic drug use population." We have the compassion, we have the resources, we have the will, we're missing a competent government that isn't lead by emotions.

[@kahlernygard809]

Schellenberger is a right wing loon who thinks weed should be have thc potency limits set by the govt. He just echo chambers

[@justinm1200]

Yeah you need treatment added in. You can't just decriminalize drugs and have safe injection sites. That won't do anything at all. You need mandatory treatment added in.

[@Nightskystar32]

Treatment not enabling all the way!!!

[@genghismccann7659]

When the facts show that what you are doing is having a completely opposite effect to what you wanted you have to stop and reassess what you are doing. "First do no harm" is basic in medicine. The Minister of Health, a physician, is doubling down instead, ignoring the evidence right in front of her. At some point she will be severely criticised for this action. Giving free drugs to addicts will not end well, no matter how well-intentioned it is.

[@MrGordonbrett]

It gets to a point where they keep doubling down, I have to assume the results we are seeing is what they wanted in the first place

[@neige4221]

At this point it’s someone else’s problem. If the health minister has a personal tragedy, she will see the opposition’s view. Now it’s us against them policy, as usual.

[@elizabethmcleod246]

First do no harm? You’re likely not aware of the numerous doctors in BC who gas light people, they dismiss people who are severely injured and they leave people in intractable pain unable to sleep! How many of these people are physically injured to the point of being disabled? How many lost their job due to an injury and receiving no medical care? They are not all mentally unwell. Health care in BC is almost non existent and doctors are committing fraud and they are misrepresenting the truth a great deal of the time. It’s criminal they get away with this.

[@joanweisgerber1964]

They know its not working,and only getting worse. That's what they want.

[@ArthurPyme]

What facts are you referring to. Pee Pee didn't deliver any facts. He never does.

[@kingarthur5110]

So not only are taxpayers subsidizing illicit drugs, we're also increasing the fatality rate. Stellar job there, Libs. Real top notch.

[@donnicholson3170]

The hard truth is that some addicts will die no matter what you do. Continuing this insanity of providing drugs to addicts and letting them roam the streets will not help them avoid the inevitable. Mandatory treatment is the only solution. Imagine the lives that could have been saved if that $100 million had been spent on addiction treatment and mental health treatment?

[@lucgruffaz7750]

Mandatory will not solve the problem if addicts are unwilling to kick the habit, treatment cost up to $ 20 000 per , and many times it takes more that one treatment. Its a connandrum !

[@donnicholson3170]

@@lucgruffaz7750 give them one chance at rehab, if they refuse, off to jail. You can't give an addict choice.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

The problem is when you say mandatory. Do you mean lock someone up for 6 months with no access to drugs? Laws, rightfully protect people from being locked up against their will without very good mental health reasons.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

@@donnicholson3170 Holy Jesus what a reply. You think jail is an answer? Okay sure, anyone who gets high too much, throw them in jail. Half our population will be in n jail then!!

[@darlenedunn5693]

Jail gives them a CHANCE to be become clean OR let the drug cost get high $ so its hard to afford ... no one ever going to make an addict come clean no matter what anyone does or where to put them .. giving them cheaper drugs just makes it difficult for the us to live & enjoy life

[@Grand-Massive]

If you think an addict is going to stop or change when you are giving them an endless supply of perfect drugs you must be a very unthoughtful person and not understand a single thing about addiction.

[@Alfonso-gp9mk]

100% spot on👏🏼

[@MarkBorecki-b4j]

When you hear her talk (screech) you understand that the keys to the asylum really where given to the inmates.

[@fresh_hell]

The safe injection/safe drug sites started about ten years ago and were controversial then as well. It is a harm reduction strategy. If the sites are being misused by the addicts to buy street drugs, Health Canada needs to adjust its approach. How many people are being saved, I wonder, or do these sites just prolong the inevitable?

[@chestermalcolm4665]

10 of thousands of lives “ saved” … the reality is its the same ones repeatedly “saved” making it look like those “saved” are greater then the actual number, besides eventually that roulette wheel will stop …. And those “saved” will be “lost.”

[@Wilsongaboi]

There's evidence to suggest they lower the rate of overdose related deaths...however it does not address their addiction...

[@TimDyck]

That's the bitter reality of addictions. People spiral out of control and lose everything including their lives. If only we could stop it! But we will never prevent even one death until we stop chasing failed ideological policies and start looking beyond ideology for real solutions.

[@swtmelody416]

Wanna know how i survived drug addiction? By never using them in the first place. Nobody is born an addict.

[@TimDyck]

@@swtmelody416 people who never used recreational drugs have become addicts through prescription medicines. I know of one who took her own life when she could no longer cope with the realization that she was addicted to pain medications after spending so much of her adult life criticizing addicts for what she said was making bad decisions in life.

[@Athena091014]

I think having the concern that the drug supply might not be safe would be an added incentive to quit doing drugs by going into rehab. The gov't may have good intention in terms of wanting to provide a safe supply of drugs but that does not give people the incentive to change their ways but to continue using drugs. Put the money into treatment of the addiction instead of encouraging it.

[@Uluru484]

The fact that street drugs are often laced with dangerous substances doesn’t seem to be a deterrent.

[@justinswan5406]

Drugs dont make things better .

[@missf4681]

Im a sister of a druggie that died 7ral yrs ago and i agree with Pierre' when you give them everything to make it easier to get high you are just prolonging the misery of their lives which gets worse and 98 percent of tge time they ebd up dying any way

[@Jennidoesdesigns]

Government funded rehab would have saved a close family member. We couldn’t get him in rehab because of not only a wait list but also the cost. The cost for rehab is HUGE.

[@cabbagedestroyer1693]

Government actually fund way more money to supply the drugs than any rehab program. It almost seems like they want people to be helpless addicted as opposed to come clean and seek therapy

[@meanwhileonhastings...]

I heard $13,000 a month

[@mikepepper8395]

Yes, this is the actual issue. 2 year waiting list to get into an actual facility.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

And yet PP MR. small government is claiming he's going to increase govt funded rehab.

[@BrianHigginbotham-do4hm]

Ive been a heroin addict and I know from personal experience and from what I've heard from the people I was homeless with, it is so hard to get into treatment. The moments of clarity (when they are sick of being dopesick before the fear of detox sets in) are short. Even worse on the back end of treatment they just wish you luck and send them back to the street, with no housing or job assistance.

[@denniswoycheshen]

You would think that reintegration would be the top priority for a treatment center.

[@BrianHigginbotham-do4hm]

@@denniswoycheshen right, but their main concern is filling beds so they can get their piece of the government funding pie. One of their favorite tactics (at least in my city and it could just be a symptom of their hiring practices) is to make things unbearable for some so they leave that way they can count 2 people in one bed, this happens because once a human is on the books it counts for the entire month get someone to leave they are "there" then fill the bed with a new human and boom you've got 2 people in one bed with the cost of feeding/housing only one of them. I used to sell heroin to a person that ran 2 programs hence the reason I was privy to this information.

[@Ililllllwyz6y2]

Simple solution. Just don't do drugs.

[@BrianHigginbotham-do4hm]

@@Ililllllwyz6y2 since you have no frame of reference just stay out of the conversation. Please, thanks have a great day.

[@avery6950]

The problem is a lot of addicts dont want to go into treatment/rehab. Do we just let those people die? Or give them safe drugs and hope they can come back into society with those safe drugs. Opiate relapse rates are 99%

[@rogerdeyell3429]

To the mental health minister, i dont believe you. I would like to add mental health is grossly underfunded in Canada it just took me a verry long wait to get help since before Christmas. I just received help in the last few weeks. Just started .medication to now ..... sickaning job on your part i have got to say. Thats it

[@vitazwick7173]

What is our Minister of Health on??? She's nuts!

[@germanp4784]

our government is so woke, im so embarrassed to be a Canadian

[@nickyalousakis3851]

i have never in my life seen liberals more out of touch with reality on every issue... socially, financially, globally. everything is wrong with liberals right now.

[@walleyehunter1541]

Me too. Its shameful

[@ArthurPyme]

@@nickyalousakis3851 If the conservatives are so in touch, why can't they win an election. They may not even hold on to Alberta, A conservative stronghold. Ever occur to you... you are the one that is out of touch?

[@ExecuteALLdemoratsANDrinos]

You won't have to worry about your government anymore once America eradicate all the dems and invade canada

[@ninenine2438]

​@@nickyalousakis3851 theyre mentally deranged

[@EluciaDeLuteIma]

That minister of mental health is clearly getting high off her own supply.

[@davidmurray5858]

Her comments make no sense.

[@aliwasti708]

Carolyn Bennett is an angry man! if you cannot take criticism then politics is not the profession for you. I agree with conservatives that this money should be used toward prevention rather than encouragement.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

She has a right to express passion about a life and death matter. I love her emotion!

[@brndxt]

​@@MayThereBeWorldPeace But being passionate and emotional might not solve problems.

[@MayThereBeWorldPeace]

@@brndxt How do you know what it might accomplish?

[@brndxt]

@@MayThereBeWorldPeace What it might accomplish is less certain than what it (being emotional) wouldn't accomplish.

[@rochellebrown5600]

@@MayThereBeWorldPeace We already know, results are death, more misery and heartache. Present day Liberal ideology will always lead to death because it lacks Truth and facts.

[@hercules2342]

Yes cause the safe drug program is working out so well in parts of the states that decide to do the safe drug program. Just take a look at Portland. That’s what BC will look soon enough if we don’t do something about this. Also love how they are so worried about the junkies dying, over the people that are being randomly attacked from these losers.

[@bucklee5477]

It's getting so bad in my town. There's constantly people overdosing outside my place of work. Our downtown core is no longer safe. I think there has to be a better solution than what they are doing. All the city offered was a buddy system for people leaving their businesses. Absolutely nothing is actually being done. It's like people in the bureaucracy are benefitting from the government handouts. This is a small town on Vancouver Island. Is the whole Westcoast just ruined?

[@yaniragonzalez]

This is happening in each and every downtown all around the country. 😢

[@micromaxt]

Sudbury too

[@highstreetkillers4377]

they need to be arrested, prosecuted, and sentenced to prison labour

[@Andre-bk6jp]

Just the towns with residents like you.

[@micromaxt]

@@Andre-bk6jp no need to make it personal

[@rogerdeyell3429]

Its a big problem