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[@Christian-gs3bz]

List timestamps: 5:29 Nighthaunt 9:21 Lumineth 11:30 Kruleboyz 16:48 Gloomspite gitz 19:29 Disciples of Tzeentch 21:07 Soublight Gravelords 22:20 Soulblight Gravelords 23:00 Stormcast Eternals 23:46 Sylvaneth 25:14 Gloomspite 25:33 Maggotkin of Nurgle 26:45 Idoneth 27:21 Seraphon 28:13 Hedonites of Slaanesh 30:20 Sylvaneth 30:50 Lumineth 31:50 Discples of Tzeentch 32:54 Slaves to Darkness 34:51 Nighhaunt 35:23 Discples of Tzeentch 35:49 Soulblight Gravelords 36:15 Skaven 38:05 Hedonites of Slaanesh 39:07 Stormcast Eternals 40:25 Flesh-eater courts 42:53 Lumineth 43:39 Nighthaunt 43:53 Lumineth 44:44 Lumineth 45:12 Soulblight Gravelords 46:15 Stormcast Eternals 46:38 Nighthaunt 48:43 Gloomspite 49:04 Seraphon

[@Orkimedes-sc8ef]

Thank you sir

[@Fistandantilus2000]

Very useful, ty

[@featherstone4423]

Amazing!

[@JonHaugaard]

Once again thanks for the coverage, Rob! Just to underscore just how good my StD list felt (from Lords of Aros): First 2-day event in 1½ years, and first time playing StD in that same timeframe Hadn't had time to test my list (due to a flood) and constantly forgot basic rules that would have helped me out a lot. Was sick on day one and lost track of several things as a result (accidentally took a double turn, because I forgot I had just finished my turn) ... and still somehow managed to win 4 of 5. tldr: It was the list, not the pilot. Varanguard OP

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Thanks so much for the writeup and yeah they are very good

[@jefferymartens6303]

Love what you do! Thanks!

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

I appreciate that! That's so humbling!! Thankyou

[@akutch564]

Glad to see people submitting videos. Let's go KB!

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Yeah it class

[@jackdavenport4303]

I hope we've still got play when those monsta killaz get nuked

[@UntestedGaming]

Standing in front of the Glutos hobby barrier this week. Send blessings please

[@kahadin]

Just dont glue the riders in, its pretty easy to paint everything seperately

[@Armiesintoart]

Good luck!

[@Gavriel01]

It's notable that Nighthaunt has a very straightforward approach to play, which makes it very easy to grasp their strengths. Early editions are usually dominated by the lists that are the most straightforward because you can spend more time learning matchups instead of workshoping your own army.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Same with vguard etc

[@avossins95]

just like ironjawz... oh wait

[@liquiddude9855]

same with 50% of the armys

[@nurglematthew893]

Been feeling phenomenal about these results?!!? Cheers for the review.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

You are so great brother xxx

[@Christian-gs3bz]

What an absolute Skaven menace of Stormfiends

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

A full slab

[@Kimtanashino]

It is as fun as surprising. During the few games I did, Stormfiends were absolutely overwhelming.

[@CapOfXav]

And they return from gnawholes at half strength after their firat death

[@Ayeohx]

The painting on that Nashcon terrain looked great.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Solid work

[@Wilhelm-c8l]

I was able to attend NashCon this year and it was my first GT I've traveled to. It was an amazing event and quite the eye-opener. Having gone 3-2 at a local GT and then struggling to get one win at NashCon definitely made me realize my own areas for improvement. I had such a good time though and so proud of our own Jonathan Sands getting a 4-1.

[@canopus657]

i guess KO is now a legacy army xD

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

they are in the heavens

[@thesqueaze6509]

Did I just hear "Kairos Feetweaver"? 19:33

[@TheHonestWargamer]

You heard nothing

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Maybe

[@JohnnyTightIips]

Counter of Little Piggies going to market.

[@wakephillips]

Loving these submitted clips.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Im glad

[@creeperslayer92]

Tzeentch is an underrated army right now because its less played. It's great without morbid conjuration. It's insane with morbid conjuration.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Yeah that's defo one to keep an eye on

[@adamwanat8914]

Funny how Kharadron, one of the shootiest armies in 3ed, got so neutered in that category that they can't even compete

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Yeah it's sad

[@francoissavard5893]

Perfect. Good KO is bad for AoS.

[@spooney8580]

​@@francoissavard5893 how so?

[@francoissavard5893]

​@@spooney8580Boring to play against. Mostly shooting army in a melee oriented game.

[@JoeSmith-oy3hk]

I'm at least looking forward to a likely point cut. Right now lists have to be extremely tight for the faction. If we get weak rules we can at least have more units with them.

[@katherinepeterson714]

Great video

[@solosam47]

Went to a small 1k event this past weekend that was more based around learning the rules and getting the hang of the new edition. DoK were wild to go against with my nurgle! Very surprising on their ability to fight first often, fight twice, and pump out 2D mortals. Fun event though and looking forward to my first 2k tournament in September!

[@amirhayek821]

Haha, love your way of pronouncing Norwegian names . 😄

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

I try but I am dumb. I'm sorry

[@tysonwollas235]

Sooooo Morbid Conjuration needs to either be nerfed or the rest of the manifestations need to be upgraded.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Yeah!!

[@Strade8]

If you can take one there will one that is stronger.. is really hard to balance it out in a way that you could take different ones..

[@spooney8580]

Move shackles to aetherwrought machinations, probably sorted then

[@OldManRogers]

I think it was a good show that the Irish event I attended had ZERO nighthaunt. I don't know if that's intentional, by design or gentlemans arrangement but it was really fun. The top two 3-0s were FEC and CoS

[@Kinhussar]

They are fairly unpopular and people won't buy an army just because it's strong in the short index time

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

so many great armies out there recently

[@cml4914]

Nice to see Nurgle making an appearance

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Yeah I think they can do well

[@raymondlane]

Hooray Nurgle

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

I think they are ok

[@gailonebell2154]

I hadn't really thought before how having higher points costs across the board makes ethereal more valuable. This is exacerbated by a drop system that also incentivizes elite units to have fewer drops. I think it's also a big reason behind the power of covering fire. The big weakness of covering fire is that it must target the closest unit. So your opponent knows it's coming and can choose your target for you. But with lists having fewer more elite units this weakness is hard to exploit. Made worse by many potential screening units being overcosted in points imo. Dropping the points on screening units could be one way to quickly balance covering fire, if the meta doesn't already find a way to respond.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

I agree but 2 cp would also help

[@stevecatpatrick8056]

​@@thehonestwargamerstreamsshooting is kind of weak though ATM, spending a CP every round to get value out of your unit is not exactly overpowered. If you make covering fire worse, shooting probably needs to be made stronger again. It's kind of sad right now for most units.

[@JohnnyTightIips]

@@stevecatpatrick8056 what units are you shooting with that you consider shooting 'kind of weak' btw?

[@CapOfXav]

Warp lightning cannon /s

[@stevecatpatrick8056]

@@JohnnyTightIips I mean generally it's weak if the shooting unit can't make its points back before it gets tied up in melee and killed. Unless of course it offers other strong utility. I think there's a few units that are strong enough but the majority of them are not. And remember that's only one shooting phase per battle round you have to count, You can't exactly count two per battle round while ignoring the CP cost and how the enemy can play around it by having screens. There's so many units who's shooting when you do some quick math You realize it's like an expected value of one damage. I'm not judging it just don't personal experience, But for me my armies are DOT, Maggotkin, and STD. So primarily looking at the lack of a real ranged hammer in DOT with flamers being quite sad. Sure they are cheap but cheap doesn't actually help make up for low damage output when you can only covering fire one unit per turn. And 12-in range just makes it so easy to be charged. I think last game I dumped three CP and six rounds of shooting into a reinforced flamers along with really good positioning where my opponent didn't actually get to them, which is basically best case scenario, And I think they just barely broke even on paying for themselves. So they wouldn't have without the CP investment. Like I'm okay with some of the range reductions to 18 in but at 12 in the shooting needs to be pretty devastating when you're that close, basic video game shotgun logic/ every flamethrower in every game ever. I've also been at the receiving end of My buddies fusiliers and bliss barbs and it really didn't do that much, shook it off pretty handily.

[@JohnnyTightIips]

Engaging with content even though I watched earlier on twitch!

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

You love!!

[@Kurze0]

I played Brad with my manni vhordrai list, tried to crack the castle, but failed to kill his -1 to hit aura character by 3 damage, which made my grave guard just bounce off him, but looking forward to the rematch

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Excited to see soul light out there. Keep going

[@anthonydavila1250]

Wez da best nows, WAAAGH!

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Da best

[@GnomeWarriorsRock]

Honestly, the only reason I don't have Glutos in my Slaanesh is because I don't like the mini. I LOVE ths Sigvald mini. I'm GENUINELY considering making a tournament that excludes unique units and characters to see what people bring instead. Would be really interesting.

[@GnomeWarriorsRock]

Just do it as a one day, 3 game tourny. Woukd be fun to see how it goes

[@GnomeWarriorsRock]

As far as what I've been running Sigvald, Lord of Pain, Shardspeaker, Bladebringer on Exalted Chariot Hellstriders, 2x Slickblades, 1x reinforced Blissbarb Archers, 1x reinforced Painbringers. Manifestation of Depravity Faction Terrain Lord of Pain, and Pain Bringers act as body guard for Blissbarbs and pretty much hold the center, while the rest of the army is insanely fast and those Hellstrikers can surprisingly do some work. While the Exalted Chariot is a solo piece darting around causing distractions.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

so many rules are built around them!

[@hoss9345]

YAY!! i finally made it in to a video !! also cutting the fellwaters as they are not worth it right now esp with NH running rampant lol

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

More rockgutz?

[@hoss9345]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams Honestly think im going to add a unit of snarlfangs more movement shenanigan's and maybe to help take objectives

[@hoss9345]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams No actually going to add mobile unit to help with objectives prbly the snarlfangs

[@jtb818]

❤❤

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Love ya

[@Ms_Meowgi]

Hey Rob - thanks for the videos, they're great 🙂Will you be doing a full faction review for Flesh-Eater Courts?

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

yes

[@davidsmyth447]

Nighthaunt are strong. We can say that now. It isn't a conformation bias or whatever. They're strong

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

we can, then after that what else of the conversation is there.

[@roguedm6523]

There are some amazing Nighthaunt players in my area. I don't even plan for those match ups and I'll just take it as acceptable losses. I know that's a bad attitude but i'd have to flip my army upside down just to deal with 1 faction and even then i'd lose.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Don't do it. Play your army, try to win and accept you might lose

[@graphicscvids]

I watched tom guan finish two games in under 45 minutes each. that LRL list nuts

[@nigeltownley7472]

The monstakillaz spam is really lame. Must be very boring to play against too.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Why!? It's a pretty cool theme and there are other elements of the list

[@GoldenRogueMinis]

@@thehonestwargamerstreamsit’s not that bad in an army with limited infantry options. Doesn’t have the same feel as a shark spam or eel spam type list from deepkin for example

[@zackerickson137]

My spoooky ghosts are winning!!!! Finally

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Winning a lot

[@zackerickson137]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams I’m glad just wish Nagash would see more time on the table

[@markpandelidis2079]

The skyfires just need their rule to only work in their turn. Ignoring the -1 to hit for covering fire is a problem. Ignoring negative modifiers only as a rule is already too strong. It should only be "your turn" ignore negatives. Covering fire doesn't need to cost 2 CP. Probably also priority target shouldn't work on shooting. That also feels like a mistake. Or again maybe it's only in your turn.

[@jarodbrown4715]

Lumineth are Mid… nothing to see here. ;) all my love Rob

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Pray for scroll to miss them

[@thehonestaspy102]

I'm glad that after a disappointing run in 3.0 Nighthaunt are finally strong and having fun but I suspect a painful nerf is coming for those ghost players soon.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

lets see!!

[@thehonestaspy102]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams I'll be honest as a Trogg player/fan I am, if I can quite Michael Caine's Alfred, "Rather thinking about myself actually" 😂

[@Gavriel01]

Also, the lower lethality of AoS 4th seems to favor fast armies a lot more. I wonder if there's ways to tune things to let you punish over-extension more without turning the game into 40k gunlines.

[@rotm4447]

everything is doing the same damage if not more man, and save stacking is gone.

[@neem377]

Hopefully after my NOVA games where i can 0-5 against trolls

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

You've got this

[@marius_burger]

As a Nighthaunt army owner i really hope we see some balances.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Me too

[@zackerickson137]

@@marius_burger I just want nagash to be viable and the black coach to come back

[@erikstoner98]

Nighthaunt isn't the boogyman anymore. Nighthaunt is an easy army to play with at the moment and a lot of people play them, therefore making it look like they are better then they really are. Don't get me wrong, they're top tier compared to other armies but I have seen all kinds of other armies winning lately and none of them were Nighthaunt, not even in the top three. That said, A couple of points changes could be done +10 or -10 here and there. The only big change I would like to see is the RUN part of the Death Stalkers removed. Thats just overkill i.m.o. And the Morbid Conjuration spell lore needs te be split lol.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

thanks for the comment, defo needs looking at

[@martym3815]

My poor Ironjawz :(

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

They need some actual battle traits

[@Baconlazer]

Not a single Blades of Khorne, what's going on to be this low?

[@40KWill]

Will they release a battle scroll before the big Nova Open reveals.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Maybe even this week

[@piotrjeske4599]

Looking at those stormcast armies. Multiple monster kits, names characters. No basic infantry, no units from the starter. When sacrosanct dropped they were the fun good thing to play. Now to start a new player has to buy two dragons to start building the army. And the sacrosanct stuff is so bad to play with. One would think that given them going legends and with all the problems this comes in finding games, GW would give them good and fun rules as a send of . But nope , playing them is worse the trying to play an army made out of starters.

[@avossins95]

Usual suspects Nighthaunt and LRL all over the place there are others that been doing very well but those two are the most dominant by far. I did beat a nighthaunt list with ironjawz. The nighthaunt list had Nagash which I do not think you want to run since nighthaunt is soo cheap but it was a hard battle that I only won because I got lucky by killing a reinforced revenants unit in their turn opening up the opportunity to kill Nagash before he brought anything back. If Nagash just stayed back for one more turn I probably would have been easily defeated. I definitely want to see some rules changes that either nerf abilities or buffs abilities rather than points. I think with the current balance of the game, points just is not going to cut it for a lot of stuff in the game.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Unless you don't play nighthuant etc. there's lots of wiggle room

[@avossins95]

I still want a big rules change and not just points

[@jmack5182]

Who is leading in spearhead ?,

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

There are no spearhead events

[@RFoxVIII]

​@@thehonestwargamerstreams 😢. We are about to host a very casual Spearhead League in Newport, Wales to get people playing AOS. Have 10+ people interested so excited for the format help get people playing (including myself)

[@thesoothsayer9223]

Love seeing early event results and looking forward to the inevitable battlescroll response.

[@johangrenier6016]

In a game where most abilities are tied to a 3+ roll nighthaunt having automatic abilities on top of great heroes, non-interactive movement (you can't pin them and they teleport during the enemy turn as well for some units) makes it not only a very safe army to pilot but as you go higher in skill expression they are also impossible to deny and i think that's the catch for top tables. The simple removal of their ability to charge while into combat should mitigate that, creating openings for counterplay, they should also not be able to have army wide run and charge or disengage and charge, it's just too powerful, make it a once per turn "army" ability and things should get more fair play for other armies. As for lumineth the issue is dawnriders, and we're seeing this as well for StD among other builds, the game is way less lethal than before and big units of 30/40w on a 3+ save with a 5+ ward and 18" move and a debuff to hit or to wound is too much and not every army can have the tools to deny or kill that stuff before they removed very safely half of your army. GW gave some extra wounds to cavarly to make them able to power through most infantry units but doing so they created this inflation in numbers that doesn't allow for much interactivity either, when 20 dawnriders are going after you you can't stop them, you can't really kill them either. Dawnriders would have been okay if they kept the 4+ save, that would make them rely more on power through to stay alive and have to rely on the -1 to hit from shining company. Having both an excellent save and a debuff make them too strong defensively and there's not a lot you can do to deal with them (and most competitive builds play 20 of those so good luck). another way to balance the thing would have been to keep them as they were before (2wounds a piece for dawnriders and 3wounds a piece for chaos warriors) and just state in the core rules that cavalry can always use power through when engaged vs infantry, this wound have make these big blocks of stats a lot more manageable yet still efficient. I don't think the issue is shooting really, the issue is that the seasonal rule for priority target really is too good for shooting units, i'm playing 6 raptors myself and most of the time they get their +1/+1 because my opponent want to be low drops and has most of his army into general regiment. The interaction with covering fire makes them shoot at 3+/2+ even with covering fire, i think it's uninteractive and unpleasant to face but it's also a consequence of the design choices GW did for this season: i think the issue is that most competitive players build their lists aiming for low drops and big deadly units and they suffer the counterpart of having their entire army/good units being vulnerable to priority target and i think it's fair. this said covering fire isn't the issue, it's the fact that most of the time i can covering fire and still have a huge bonus to hit/wound and be really efficient with my shooting units for one CP. Issue isn't the cost or damage output of shooting units, the issue is the layering of rules that makes them too efficient, make priority target melee only and the shooting damage will be more balanced.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

It's not dawn riders. All I did was read out wind spirits. You should watch the video

[@johangrenier6016]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams i watched it, sorry i wasn't specific but i was talking about French meta where everyone spam the shit out of big warscrolls and sprinkle a couple of scoring units on the side. But in a couple of month people will figure out this isn't the most effective way to play as things can get really spîcy if you miss a charge or just impact a screen and do nothing with your 500+ unit...etc. excellent video btw, i love the little interviews in the middle.

[@ChumphammerDale]

"Gloomspite Gitz, Lumineth and Kruleboyz emerging as winners" With the edition being dominated by Night Haunt

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

If you watch the video you see I say to not bother with rhetoric. I'd like to have smarter better discussions about what else is happening. It's not interesting to engage about nighthuant and doubt the viewers want me to go on about it either

[@johnhildenbrand2642]

​@@thehonestwargamerstreamsNobody who has spent more than 5 minutes around this game since tournament data started coming out after launch isn't perfectly aware of Nighthaunt being completely and utterly broken and oppressive, and GW has demonstrated on the 40k side a willingness to move things around and try to improve balance, so yes, discussing something OTHER than the elephant in the room is nice, there's only so many whinging episodes anybody is willing to watch about a given topic after all.

[@baphometsvomitcomet2350]

You literally didn't even watch a full minute of the video before commenting, lmao

[@RAWxxx07]

Finally some Kruleboyz not doing terrible… Also really happy to see a working Annihilators / Imperatant list :)

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

It's rad to see

[@126p]

no ogors ;/

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Last week they won big

[@Dino-xz9dd]

Happy that KB did well on an event, but I'm 100% sure he got lucky with his Dirty Trick rolls. The faction abbility, over the course of 5 games with 5 rounds each, is just extremly likely to fail you a few times which is extremly frustrating. I wish we would get Dirty Trick points like OBR did in the last edition instead of this stupid casino rules. Also im convinced GW intentionally made Warbands good in this edition, go figure why :)

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

its a great ability

[@heckinmemes6430]

I just don't want my trogg boys to get nerfed because two or three guys pilot them to top tier placings.

[@ArthurMWT-lx8od]

MY GUY!!!!

[@Orkimedes-sc8ef]

This

[@myownaccount5058]

True and based and valid

[@stevecatpatrick8056]

They are quite above curve though, need a tuning. Quite tanky and heal a LOT, should probably be expensive to field.

[@shendu1337]

they are 100% getting nerft. the only question is howmuch. a super tanky damage dealing unit for only 170 points per 3 is nuts. if they keep the 5w/model than i assume these will go up to 200 points per 3 pretty quickly, and even at that point cost i would argue they are to good.

[@YuriGualeri-t5q]

I see hard nerf to Rockgut Trog and NH in the future, in perfect GW stile they will reduce gitz and NH to garbage.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Hopefully not garbage

[@YuriGualeri-t5q]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams hope the same. I'm Just talking as Wh40k player that have learned that usually GW's way to balance popular strong army/units is pound them to the ground. Worried for gitz in Aos because seems right now thst the only way to play them is using lots of troll.

[@jakubburchardt4009]

Glutos one of the Best units XDDDDDD, i laught so hard

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

In Slaanesh hes solid

[@SW18_103]

This guy makes some great AoS content, but the throwaway hate comments (I'll assume it's political?) about Tim Martin etc are a little cringe.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Doesn't pay his staff well, tanked the economy and small business by supporting brexit. Is a millionaire grifter. I'll take shots at him all the time. Why are you defending him?

[@SW18_103]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams I’m no defending him? Your response essentially makes my point for me. Everything in this world is now politicised ; it’s nice to enjoy content that’s not, that’s all I’m saying.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

@@SW18_103 people being bad isnt politics you nerd

[@jasonmangelsen7136]

What, no Canadians?

[@ChumphammerDale]

We have a 46 player in Prince George end of month

[@halflifeger4179]

looks like at this point half the factions have already been 'winners' of the meta... I think that's a good thing, speaks to 4th edition's balance being decent

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

People are just missing that part of the conversation

[@earnestwanderer2471]

Clearly the solution to Nighthaunt is NOT to nerf them... BUFF them! And drop the points until they’re $1/point, so a 2000pt army costs $2000, like Admech in 40k. Then, when everyone is playing Nighthaunt in AoS, send the faction to Legends and move the models to The Old World. 🤪

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

:(

[@marcbenson1969]

Made me look up the owner of Weatherspoons since I'm American. Yeah... it's reassuring to know that we don't have the monopoly on stupid assholes.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

Sadly

[@rotm4447]

The KO boogeyman definitely needs 2 cp covering fire.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

the whole game needs 2 cp covering fire

[@rotm4447]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams Remove priority target first. Then watch how playable 6 kurnoth are without covering.

[@tizianozannin7625]

I dont agree with nerfing shooting in opponent's turn. ALL melee units always fight in both turns each round and it doesn ' t even cost a CP

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

you also get hit back though

[@tizianozannin7625]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams Sure you do. But I'd rather choose the hypothetical option of not fighting back if this prevented your big hammer hitting my glass/paper units back. Anyway I have limited experience in this edition so I' d prefere seeing a point increase for those units too much efficient when using covering fire than a general cp cost increase. If so, every list would have those units cause those would be the only worth 2 cps , leading to less list variety

[@moatopia]

Nighthaunt army wide run and charge is 100% an issue. Despite Rob saying play what you want just realize not all armies are created equally and some are just not in a spot where they’re fun for me that’s mainly Ironjawz. Our local KO player shelved his steampunk dwarves after a couple games. I have played every mission and multiple 3 day events, my local meta had folks in Tacoma as well the game is fun but needs a minor balance pass for sure. Your suggested changes to NH are on the money. Endless spells should have points of be limited to 1 bound per wizard imho.

[@thehonestwargamerstreams]

If that's true you are in the 0.1% and your experience is not reflective of others

[@moatopia]

@@thehonestwargamerstreams I have been playing since the index leaks. I play a lot of AoS and the data being presented is an accurate reflection of the state of the game at a higher end. Local metas will be different of course but a crap army will always be crap even in the hands of a skilled pilot. Go play Ironjawz, Maggotkin, KO into Lumineth, Nighthaunt, Slaves, Trolls or Ogors and report back how it fun it is. Grab IJ and stream a match into Lumineth. I love AoS and I am fortunate enough to get to play once or twice a week and have monthly events to attend. In my opinion this edition is fun but adjustments need to be made. I know this specific video is about tournaments results and not the same discussion about what is or isn’t broken but I think it’s a discussion that folks want to have occasionally. If I had the following you do I would look at creating a video that shows players other good lists in the factions. An example we know run and charge NH are really good but what other lists do they have that could be fun and do well in a local meta without a NPE? Maybe the message should be avoid chasing the meta and chase fun instead, give folks suggestions on some fun builds.