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@jamesgraham61224 ай бұрын
Amazingly, on being relocated to Afghanistan in early 2006 while operating on a UN contract, I was taxiing out at Kabul and found myself following a Gloucester Meteor ! Still operational and I believe being utilised as an ISR platform. I'm not sure when it was finally retired but I think it was only a year or so later. It had the revised tail configuration developed from the earlier E 1/44 design. Very rare. Exactly what year this particular aircraft came on line I don't know but to be taxiing out behind a 60 year old, still operational jet from the 1940s in 2006 was something for the grandchildren :>)
@pippin1ful3 ай бұрын
Meteor Mk8 or with 2seats: Mk11 or 14?
@aldenconsolver34283 ай бұрын
for sure, I suspect about half those engines were spare parts manufactured by hand.
@jamesgraham61223 ай бұрын
@@aldenconsolver3428 Thank you for that :>)
@ripoffrecords4 ай бұрын
My uncle Geoff Collins flew a Gloster Meteor in Korea for the RAAF 77 Squad. He was the captain of Melbourne Football Club prior to his service so they painted an evil looking Demon with a pitchfork both sides of his jet behind his cannons. He always spoke highly of the Gloster as being very reliable, getting him back to base safely even after being shot up several times & once without a canopy.
@TheAneewAony4 ай бұрын
Eric Brown. The most remarkable pilot in history. No caveats
@nickthompson34933 ай бұрын
I'll drink to that!
@leoa4cАй бұрын
Hearing Frank Whittle himself explain the effects of different blade designs and the respective flow structures created by them is mega interesting! Thank you very much for this upload.
@DronescapesАй бұрын
I think we now feature the most extensive interview with Frank Whittle, and you might want to watch/listen to it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYStlayLfNF4bdk A while ago, thanks to the people that support the channel, we contributed to digitize the only copy of the original 16mm films, which we now also acquired for posterity. they were digitized at the legendary Pinewood Studios in Britain a year ago. There is a lot of interesting things to learn that veer from the scarse information and the ubiquitous semi tragic Wikipedia. What I also find very interesting is the Von Ohain interviews (by the same filmmaker), also acquired by the channel. These are perhaps even more rare to come by. I think that anyone can notice the stark difference between him and Whittle (in favor of Whittle). There are also interesting admissions that Von Ohain makes, and in my opinion they "calibrate" the commonly known knowledge (again, lots of Wikipedia.) He also candidly admits that Whittle was way ahead of him. A rare admission for future historians! Here is the Von Ohain's interviews: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eIXOkGt9eNyosM0 I hope you can enjoy these interviews as much as we did.
@countrichardvoncoudenhovek88554 ай бұрын
Wonderful stuff.....especially the early Farnborough colour jet footage,
@Dragonblaster14 ай бұрын
The Meteor was not Britain's first jet aircraft: that was the Gloster-Whittle E28/39. The Meteor was Britain's first jet fighter.
@Dronescapes4 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right, although the Gloster-Whittle was really a prototype/test-bed. By the way, did you watch out Whittle’s interviews on the channel? If you are passionate about his work and life, you cannot miss them
@stefanschutz51662 ай бұрын
It was shown repeatedly in the video without the name of the type even being mentioned.
@pippin1ful3 ай бұрын
My paternal grandfather married Sir Stafford Cripps' housekeeper, much to Dad's disgust. Nan had died. Granddad was mates with Clem Attlee and his gang. They gave the Yanks and Reds our aeronautical secrets.
@stephenhigginson50614 ай бұрын
Outstanding, exciting doco !
@leoa4cАй бұрын
I think that Frank Whittle's first design, the motorjet, could find some use in experimental sport's planes today. A light piston engine used to rotate two centrifugal superchargers (the 1st and the 2nd stage) along with a relatively small turbo-supercharger doing the 3rd stage of compression could achieve enough pressure and mass flow to produce a relatively powerful jet. Definitely enough to justify its own weight, and to significantly increase the speed of propeller aircraft in level flight. It would not be the most efficient way of achieving extra thrust, but it would definitely be a lot cheaper than the small turbojets on the market, as it could use straight off-the-shelf superchargers and turbochargers from the automotive world. Such design crosses my mind from time to time whenever insomnia kicks in. Such package would have a small frontal area (around the same frontal area of the complete piston engine itself). The piston engine turns both superchargers via a single shaft with different gears for each supercharger. The compressor section of the turbocharger at the end, further raises the pressure. The flow is then routed to 6 cylindrical combustion chambers, with the ability of reheat (afterburn) by bleeding air from the compressor stages. It serves no practical purpose, whatsoever, other than to "boost" the speed of recreational/sport propeller-driven aircraft.
@BenAhmed673 ай бұрын
Brown and Whittle...just wow!
@VulcanDriver14 ай бұрын
It scored the first jet air to air kill.
@biernut87233 ай бұрын
Not really a kill though.
@GlenDoer-gq1rs4 ай бұрын
Worked on these in the RAAF 1969 did not realise how old they were..nicked named the meat box.
@ianbeedles13294 ай бұрын
It never ceases to amaze me how shortsighted, and how often, the British establishment managed to destroy early jet development. The interviews with Messer's Whittle and Brown clearly shows how the government of the time allowed itself to be bullied so it could gain a few bars of gold.😢
@danielsotelo394224 күн бұрын
I'm 68 and had no idea the British were so advanced in jet aviation until I saw this video. Talking about the US school system feeding us George Washington chopping down a cherry tree Bull Sh!t story... Wow by seeing this video they were far more advanced than the Boeing 707. How unfortunate they shot their foot with the Comet.
@ArthurWright-uv4ww4 ай бұрын
How it was back in the day. We had a squadron of Meteors. The German jet was good but how many flew on a daily basis?
@christopherhogg8364Ай бұрын
They both had different advantages over each other. The meteor possessed more of those advantages and with further development gradually picked up the me262s advantages. By the end of the war the meteors then entering service were better in every single respect, but the 262s aerodynamics were the way forward
@OntheAVIA28 күн бұрын
Numbers vary between 13-20
@samuelelsby18003 ай бұрын
What on earth is that opening faux footage of a V1 being launched from an aircraft?
@MrKlipstar4 ай бұрын
" To defeat the 3rd Reich, was necessary the Soviet sacrifice,the American support and above all the British Inteligence.* Unknow 🤔 A Great spirit, Mr Brown.,a brave Man !
@georgekforrpv68574 ай бұрын
The sound of the v1 in opening video all wrong! It was a pulse jet not a turbine! Had a deep throaty buzz!
@pippin1ful3 ай бұрын
Tell me about it! They used to fly over our house and I used to listen out for them after the air-raid warning siren. When I heard the incoming growl I would warn Mother, and with my brother we would rush to our shelter down the garden. We lived in "Doodlebug Alley," under the flightpath to London.
@minipup14 ай бұрын
Proved to be very little use against the V1, far too slow to accelerate. Numbers vary between 13-20. That job was left to the Tempest V.
@barrierodliffe415529 күн бұрын
Used successfuly against the V 1's, the Metoer I was only made in small numbers and came late to the V 1 party, the Tempest, Mosquito and Spitfire were shooting them down from the start. The Meteor had good acceleration and speed, in fact when tested against a Tempest the Meteor was found to be better.
@dimsum4352 ай бұрын
I was astonished to learn that 450, yes four hundred and fifty, RAF pilots died while flying the Meteor. In a plane that never really went to war. (Chased V1s).
@christopherhogg8364Ай бұрын
It did go to war many times AFTER the war and those pilots mostly died in training accidents regarding single engined handling. The meteor was horrendous for asymetric power
@dimsum435Ай бұрын
@@christopherhogg8364 Still, 450, it's a lot of dead young men. Though I believe what drove the RAF to cut out single engine approach training was the loss of so many instructors. No wonder it was called, (aliterally, not affectionately ), 'the meat-box'.
@christopherhogg8364Ай бұрын
@dimsum435 yes but we are talking about poor training methods rather than a deficiency in the aircraft itself though. It was largely conservative in its execution, but it was a good aircraft in the end.
@noonedude1014 ай бұрын
Not even 10 seconds into the video... "On June 12th, 1945, a new weapon..." A month after the war ended in Europe?
@barrierodliffe415529 күн бұрын
A typo, obviously, June the 12th 1944
@ianmcsherry52544 ай бұрын
Right, two things jarring right from the start, V-1 dropped from a Heinkel? They were launched off rails in occupied Europe, hence why the threat diminished both from allied bombing of the launch sites, and the advance of troops into those areas after D-Day. Secondly, "Winkle discovers the Meteor"? No it wasn't, that was it's single engined predecessor that he stumbled across at Cranwell, as per the archive footage.
@richardvernon3174 ай бұрын
Germans did launch V-1's from He-111's based in Holland after the launch sites in France were overrun.
@georgekforrpv68574 ай бұрын
Jet aircraft seen was gloster e.28 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloster_E.28/39
@RichardMcLaren4 ай бұрын
Do you know what else is 'jarring'? When people say 'hence why'......It's just 'hence'
@DavidMc732 ай бұрын
@@RichardMcLarenhence why is more than jarring, it’s bloody annoying
@veritasvincit274528 күн бұрын
A chap I used to work with lived in Manchester as a child and said he definitely saw a V-1. I thought he'd made a mistake because Manchester wasn't within range of the launch sites. Did a bit of digging and discovered that some V-1s were air launched in order to hit the northern British cities.
@mikedearing63524 ай бұрын
I'm surprised an unmanned drone destroyed by a manned aircraft is enough to credit the first jet vs jet aerial kill, I'd think you'd need two piloted jet aircraft for such a claim, very lame crediting the Gloster Meteor as first jet to jet victory, more accurately the first jet to intercept a missile
@biernut87233 ай бұрын
It's called grasping at straws. They have to include that when there's nothing else.
@barrierodliffe415529 күн бұрын
I wonder what the first jet to het victory would be, the Me 262 had enough trouble with piston engine fighters, it failed to shoot down a single Tempest or Spitfire, the Meteor accounted for Vampires when flown by Israel and Mig 15's when flown by the Australian air force
@barrierodliffe415529 күн бұрын
@@biernut8723 The straws being a number of Luftwaffe aircraft when the Meteor was flying over German territory.
@biernut872329 күн бұрын
@@barrierodliffe4155 That number being zero. Also, the Me 262 had no trouble accounting for p-51s which it was far more likely to encounter in its role as an interceptor over Germany than Spitfires, which were outclassed by P-51s at higher altitudes.
@sofabiru68523 ай бұрын
🙄 "dog fight ... " 🤔
@oswinhaas2 ай бұрын
What un ugly goose compared to the Messerschmitt Me 262
@barrierodliffe415529 күн бұрын
Not ugly at all, the Meteor was not only a much better fighter but looked much better.
@willhovell90193 ай бұрын
Wrong it was June 1944 .An insult to Winkle Brown and the history of the amazing Meteor
@samerahmed95954 ай бұрын
Gloster did not see the light of day until after the war, after the Messerschmitt 262 was transferred to the Allied countries
@Murfie-qe3pp4 ай бұрын
The Meteor first flew in 1943 and commenced operations on 27 July 1944 with No. 616 Squadron RAF.
@ianmcsherry52544 ай бұрын
incorrect, and a pretty basic error in WW2 history that would have been easily addressed before posting.
@TheAneewAony4 ай бұрын
@@Murfie-qe3pp Hiding from Germans is neither operations or combat