Messerschmitt Me 262 | the WW2 German Jet Aircraft Explained By Eric "Winkle" Brown | Rare Footage

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@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
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@dennisbang2799
@dennisbang2799 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@washingtonramirez7122
@washingtonramirez7122 10 ай бұрын
😅😅99990.p99
@MrArtbv
@MrArtbv 8 ай бұрын
Brown is clueless as to what deal the Brits gave up supersonic flight to the Americans... Hint Hint... The technology that led to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.... DUH
@jacksprat9172
@jacksprat9172 Жыл бұрын
I could listen to Captain Brown all day as he relates stories from his career and his involvement with all the famous and infamous people of the time. Its like he's name-dropping living history which is astounding to us, but memories for him. Nobody deserved to be knighted more than Eric 'Winkle' Brown, a truly amazing and inspiring man. I wish I'd got to meet him, it would have been an honour. RIP Captain....and thanks Dronescapes.
@TheChad138
@TheChad138 Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched several interviews with him, very fascinating
@LeopardIL2
@LeopardIL2 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely i am delighted as well. He also tested the Volksjager.
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 Жыл бұрын
Me too! I've read his book " Wings on My Sleeve" and it goes into much more detail in places than this inspiring interview with him. Wonderful man, like his wartime compatriots sadly now gone, having passed away in 2016. RIP Winkle.
@chrisbillings338
@chrisbillings338 Жыл бұрын
Definitely a remarkable man.
@antartis73
@antartis73 Жыл бұрын
I have 4 books that contain his experiences and test flying of all the aircraft he flew. A true legend and from the sound of it a very down to earth fair person. Would have loved to have met him and discuss aeronautics.. RIP Sir
@Ryanboy2020
@Ryanboy2020 Жыл бұрын
My Opa flew the Me262 in the later part of 1944, early 1945. He flew it 6 times I said on ferrying flights from the manufacturing area to the destination unit. He told me that it handled superbly and was a true fighter pilots airplane. I dont remember him saying anything about the throttles and engine sensitivity but he did say the cockpit was comfortable and that the seat was made of wood because of the shortage of metal in the later years of the war. He was mostly a He111 bomber pilot but ended up flying fighters and after he was shot down and while he was still recovering they had him delivering airplanes. He has a funny story about being chased by a couple of spitfires in a FW 109 without any ammunition but that's for another time.
@JollySchwaggermann
@JollySchwaggermann 3 ай бұрын
FW 109 - Crikey mate - show us a photo -
@tommcintyre2963
@tommcintyre2963 Жыл бұрын
I have over 50 years of flying and still learning from giants like this. Thank you for leading the way. From an appreciative Navy pilot.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service Tom
@GermanGreetings
@GermanGreetings Жыл бұрын
I met a former german WWII pilot, who transferred planes from production to frontlines. He told me exactly the same, as Mr. Brown, especially about the Ju88. This video is a historical document of first order. Thank you !
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Baza1964
@Baza1964 Жыл бұрын
I had heard his name mentioned on other documentaries , but this one is such a treat to watch . I could listen to his stories all day. Truely the GREATEST generation.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. You cannot miss his wonderful biography kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoS1cpeQr7esmcU we also have even more never seen before interviews with him coming on the chan el
@bikenavbm1229
@bikenavbm1229 Жыл бұрын
absolute Gold as others have said I could listen to this humble Gentleman all day. Thank you for posting.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome
@grantsmythe8625
@grantsmythe8625 Жыл бұрын
One of, if not the finest pilot ever produced by the UK. Capt. Brown.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Precisely, until someone is going to cancel him for some reason with do not know yet ♥️👍🙏
@grantsmythe8625
@grantsmythe8625 Жыл бұрын
@@Dronescapes Cancel him? You mean surpass him??!! Not likely but we'll see. I've watched several videos about the Captain and no one comes close. He was such a well-rounded, intelligent person, a scholar, officer, patriot and gentleman of the first order, much more than a pilot. We in the US have no one in our history, to my knowledge, to compare with him and I know of no other country that does either. We'll see. Thank you for your comment.
@RevMikeBlack
@RevMikeBlack Жыл бұрын
Although the 262 may look rudimentary to modern eyes, I'll bet it looked like science fiction to the Allied pilots who first encountered it.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Context is priceless
@Eric-kn4yn
@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын
262 looks sexy in 21C
@ericsonhazeltine5064
@ericsonhazeltine5064 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it did
@kkteutsch6416
@kkteutsch6416 Жыл бұрын
and were fighting with it first time !
@thebruehlofspandau1665
@thebruehlofspandau1665 7 ай бұрын
I always wonder how rudimentary more "modern " aircraft appear to me, civil or military, from a close look.
@nickrider5220
@nickrider5220 Жыл бұрын
Now that's someone to look up to, what a difference to history that gentleman made at a critical time - a fascinating man. I'm so pleased to have watched this - thank you for posting this documentary .
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! We just posted a new documentary with his views on the Bf-109. Here is also a playlist about him: Eric Winkle Brown's Aircraft Memories kzbin.info/aero/PLBI4gRjPKfnOzI39MG3ILpQkxPpgoZk4n
@leoa4c
@leoa4c Жыл бұрын
More Eric Brown footage! This is great! Thank you ever so much!
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@SkyAIChannel
@SkyAIChannel 7 ай бұрын
I had heard his name mentioned on other documentaries , but this one is such a treat to watch . I could listen to his stories all day. Truely the GREATEST generation.
@jbh5294
@jbh5294 Жыл бұрын
What a great man . Having a beer with this man would be a pleasure .. he lived a life serving his country and came out the other end still serving his country flying numerous aircraft .
@marthakrumboltz2710
@marthakrumboltz2710 Жыл бұрын
Knowing that he flew by far more different types of a/c than any person before or since and that record will never fall. He first landed a Mosquito on the deck of a carrier and so many other firsts, him relating the stories is so fascinating.
@pratapbalakrishna3036
@pratapbalakrishna3036 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal experiences, pre and post ww2.
@RammYou2
@RammYou2 Жыл бұрын
ya the mosquito then the vampire on deck - amazing! he's the real deal that did his homework and stayed out of the bars. at some point i'm sure a fighter pilot resigns to die or fights to live. Winkle was a fighter for sure and what a treasure of aviation information. i'm sure someone wrote his biography. sorry had to piggy back on you here Oatie they won't let me write anything anymore on youtube. if you see this i'd appreciate a reply of some type - anything - thank yoy!
@darrenjpeters
@darrenjpeters Жыл бұрын
Hell of a pilot, what can you say. You don't need to be an ace to be a legend.
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful anecdotal history. Thanks for posting.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Жыл бұрын
I've known about Mr Brown for many years, but never seen this material. When people say nowadays... "They don't make em like they used to" I think Eric is the epitome of the person those people are referring to. An understated, No nonsense, consumate professional. Thank you for putting this up, that was 1 hour 43 minutes very VERY well spent.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Well said Walter. Perhaps you also missed his other video, including a delightful biography. Here is the playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoS1cpeQr7esmcU
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Жыл бұрын
@@Dronescapes Seeing as TV nowadays is so incredibly dire, I will be watching that a bit later this evening "Mr Dronescape". Indeed having just looked at your catalogue of vids I've bestowed on you the "Walter Cronkite's left Shoe" Subscription of the day. Excellent channel you have amassed. Well done !!!
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 thank you
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
I cannot resist one last suggestion: sir Frank Whittle's biography. It is wonderful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWG3ZWCOfJtkaLM
@michaelgibson4705
@michaelgibson4705 4 ай бұрын
When listening to this marvellous pilot I am always struck by the unbiased approach he takes to German aircraft,Always giving credit where it was due,using his analytical test pilot experience,What an aviator he was
@vksasdgaming9472
@vksasdgaming9472 Ай бұрын
Supreme professional. His job was to study airplane performance.
@josephyutenkas4902
@josephyutenkas4902 Жыл бұрын
I love listening to Eric Brown, but at 22:10 I got to see an old acquaintance. Rudy Opitz, a marvelous, charming old gent that retired from AVCO in Stratford, Ct. We talked about the Me 163 and the people of that era, and flying. He was funny and candid and everything you would expect an old flyer to be. Sometimes you just get to meet some amazing people in life..
@lohikarhu734
@lohikarhu734 Ай бұрын
Absolutely the best documentary! What other KZbin video is worth 103 minutes of your time?? And, Eric Brown seemed like a tremendously nice man, as well!
@TreyWait
@TreyWait Жыл бұрын
Winkle Brown, the dude that flew everything.
@viking4130
@viking4130 Жыл бұрын
If I had a choice of any aircraft to fly it would be the ME 262 with modern jet engine upgrades. In my humble opinion, the 262 is the most beautiful plane to ever fly. Plus getting the chance to fire 4 x 30 MM Rhinemetal cannons would be a dream come true.
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 Жыл бұрын
The first time I saw an ME-262, I was walking around Mojave Airport in California in 1984.
@ZuluLifesaBeech-
@ZuluLifesaBeech- Жыл бұрын
His telling of the UFO was straight forward and I liked how he said he kept an open mind on the subject. Reckon at the time it was best NOT hazard a guess on the UAP... 👽😉
@TheRoyalBavarian
@TheRoyalBavarian Жыл бұрын
Such respect for this generation and this man
@SlipdeGarcondeJour
@SlipdeGarcondeJour Жыл бұрын
This guy was an absolute legend
@Boric78
@Boric78 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. "Most of the other chaps had been on aircraft carriers before so they were terrified when they saw this small thing. For me it was just another adventure." Eric Brown was a legend.
@mclarenscca
@mclarenscca Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vid! I do enjoy learning and understanding as I approach my silver years!
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@perkrog8310
@perkrog8310 8 ай бұрын
Great interesting video. and Eric "Winkle" Brown is a really good narrator, amazing he can remember all these details.
@ProspectstudiosCoUkBFD
@ProspectstudiosCoUkBFD Жыл бұрын
Captain Brown is the epitome of “they don’t make ‘em like they used to” what an absolute boy! 🫡
@Joe-ch6mu
@Joe-ch6mu 5 ай бұрын
absolutely! I thought the same thing. Hell of a bloke! Good man!
@TMF972
@TMF972 7 ай бұрын
What a man.let us always remember him and so many others. Incredibly life story. Probably no other man had such an understanding and experience on that amazing of different aircraft.
@roberthogue5138
@roberthogue5138 Жыл бұрын
The ME 262 was a beautiful jet
@glennquagmire1747
@glennquagmire1747 Жыл бұрын
Eric Brown gives the most honest breakdown on the ME 262
@brianwilliams1588
@brianwilliams1588 Жыл бұрын
Having personally worked on the only two functional Jumo 004B engines left in the world, I can tell you that these were the most temperamental, touchy, maintenance hungry engines around. They were, for all intents and purposes, built to be used for X amount of hours and desposed of, as they DO NOT come apart easily. Most of the engines never made it to this X amount due to being shot down, falling out of the air due to mechanical failure or just never seeing combat due to the war ending. I can only imagine how the war would have been different if they had managed to push these out a year or two earlier...
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
I love informed comments Brian! thank you for contributing. Eric Brown mentions that the engine had a 25 hours scrap time when he tested it, wheas Whittle's centrifugal turbojet had 100 hours before overhaul. If you have not watched Eric Brown's videos, they are a treat! Here is the playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoS1cpeQr7esmcU Sir Frank Whittle's bet was the centrifugal engine precisely because of the ease of development, and reliability (at that time of course). Imagine if the British government did not reject his invention in 1929! Most likely they would have had a working jet engine by 1935, giving Britain a massive advantage. Considering he was successful despite being always on the verge of bankruptcy, is a testament to his brilliance, also because he foresaw how important it was to have a more functional engine, despite it being les performing on the long run. Von Ohain, who had access to Whittle's patents, made a different decision, one the substantially delayed the development and reliability of the axial engine. If you have not watched Whittle's documentary, you should. Hans Von Ohain is also interviewed in it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWG3ZWCOfJtkaLM
@ВасилийВасилий-б9у
@ВасилийВасилий-б9у 10 ай бұрын
10часов это 30вылетов так как каждый вылет был расчитан на 20минут
@moss8448
@moss8448 Жыл бұрын
thank you for posting this stuff insightful only scratches the surface on this type of history...well done.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Sam
@WayneB27
@WayneB27 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating Interview , very interesting .
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Wayne 👍
@djo9941
@djo9941 Жыл бұрын
The sweep back on the ME 262 was the result of the need to shift the center of gravity.
@htos1av
@htos1av Жыл бұрын
Imagine postponing Barbarossa for just a year, maybe two-we would live in a far, FAR different world today-for better or worse...
@oceanhome2023
@oceanhome2023 10 ай бұрын
As a WW2 enthusiast who likes to think that I know all about it I was stunned to encounter “Twinkle” for the first time EVER from these Utube videos !!! How could I have missed him ! Kudos to all here who already knew and read about him it makes me feel like a Dunce ! I. could go on and on but Eric Brown is my hero ! Thank you for educating me !!
@Spartanm333
@Spartanm333 Жыл бұрын
Its interesting that when you find the truly brave and courageous, they are most often modest in their success and even self deprecating. RIP Captain Brown - we may be related somewhere down the line - I am a Brown from Scarborough, my grandfather a Merchant Navy captain on the Atlantic run during WW2, mentioned in this video. Either way, respect sir.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Thank you, and well said. Did you watch his biography on the channel? We also have a dedicated playlist for him kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoS1cpeQr7esmcU
@jetjacko
@jetjacko Жыл бұрын
An excellent story of an incredible man. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Here is his playlist. You should not miss his biography kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoS1cpeQr7esmcU
@paulferrari3921
@paulferrari3921 Жыл бұрын
I could drink with this guy for days.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@roberta.6399
@roberta.6399 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding interview. Outstanding British Patriot and aviator. Lord send more like him to us.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@ianseddon9347
@ianseddon9347 Жыл бұрын
The greatest of the Greatest Generation!
@nics6174
@nics6174 Жыл бұрын
Gives you a real insight into the incredible size and armour of this renowned beast. I marvel at the abilities and patience of the restorers. Thank you.
@chris012569
@chris012569 Жыл бұрын
Awesome show
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@laurieprins6398
@laurieprins6398 Жыл бұрын
There a very beautiful 2 seater nightfighter in the army museum in Johannesburg South Africa. Only one surviving of 15 built. Also FW 190 and ME 109.
@ziptiejedi5658
@ziptiejedi5658 Жыл бұрын
I've been wondering for a while now if Eric Brow got to fly the Horten HO 229. That plane is very interesting to be being there isn't a ton of information out there on it like other German planes built during the war.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien Жыл бұрын
no flyable Ho 229 prototype did survive the war, the only Ho229 who was send to the US was not air worthy because was made in wood and glued with non water resistant glue who did fail , but this as no importance because the Northrop flying wings was more advanced as the Horten, the only feature who was not on WW2 Northrop flying wing was the turbojets, but the german engines was extremly unreliable and last maximum 25 hours...And such flying wing are impossible to fly safe without fly by wire, they did all crash after controll loss, even the restaured Borthrop N9m did crash some years ago after loss of controll, the only fling wing who fly safe was the Fauvel design with autostable profile, but such design did not allow high speeds (was use on gliders like the Fauvel AV36)
@doodoo66
@doodoo66 Жыл бұрын
I saw a video the other day of one being towed and flown like a glider. I think it was a reproduction tho. Now that I'm thinking about it it may have been an ME 163 komet. Either way it was pretty cool
@jaimeschmeling7800
@jaimeschmeling7800 11 ай бұрын
The Germans flew a propeller driven ho229 b4 the war was over and the jet one flew once or twice I think
@eucitizen78
@eucitizen78 Жыл бұрын
What a live, what a hero. My respect to Eric Brown.
@johnschofield9496
@johnschofield9496 Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel, FASCINATING history. Keep up the fine work !
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
🙏👍
@brealistic3542
@brealistic3542 Жыл бұрын
Do you ever wonder how the Germans developed a supersonic wind tunnel when wind tunnels use props to move air and are incapable of supersonic flow ? They used a large vacuum to propel air at supersonic speeds.
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Жыл бұрын
If you reduce the diameter of the tunnel where you want to do measurements, it will speed up the airflow in the restriction.
@brealistic3542
@brealistic3542 Жыл бұрын
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Not to supersonic speeds IMO or the Germans would have tried that simple trick. IMO it would in fact restrict the flow ! :)
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Жыл бұрын
I see a pattern forming here. EXCELLENT design scuppered by a total disconnect from practical circumstances. Well done Germans.
@willhovell9019
@willhovell9019 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic documentary with Cpt Brown . Insightful on the Whittle engines of 100 hours service life and simplicity, contrasttinng with the 25-12 hour scrap life of the German engines. All other factors the ME 262 was superior, faster and with swept wing design.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Thank you Will
@holdmybeer3931
@holdmybeer3931 Жыл бұрын
Captain Brown was still sharp as a tack when he did this. Even after a few ales.
@thomasdillon7761
@thomasdillon7761 Жыл бұрын
The Me-163 test pilot had the first model GoPro.
@jonesrick1
@jonesrick1 Жыл бұрын
Jolly good documentary, mate. Thanks a bunch.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
🙏👍
@maxun1
@maxun1 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful and biggest than life man. I’m Argentine and this man is a piece of wonderful history.
@Petequinn741
@Petequinn741 6 ай бұрын
Nasty looking jets.. couldn't imagine first time seeing them
@revwarnut
@revwarnut Жыл бұрын
That is an amazing presentation. I learned so much that I had not known and I thought I knew quite a bit about the topic.
@andrewjacobs3219
@andrewjacobs3219 Жыл бұрын
I have heard on line that the 262 was originally designed with straight wings . But when the engines it was supposed to use were not availiable in time another engine that was heavier was found . But because of the increase in weight the wings had to be sweept back to maintain it,s center of gravity .
@steelwhisperer
@steelwhisperer Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this amazing mans knowledge,and taking time to ensure[hopefully) it is never lost.I'll just subscribe now.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thank you 🙏
@haroldmclean3755
@haroldmclean3755 11 ай бұрын
A Brilliant Documentary 👍 Very interesting indeed
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@c.antoniojohnson7114
@c.antoniojohnson7114 7 ай бұрын
I saw Eric Brown,had to watch.
@chrissmith7655
@chrissmith7655 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, many thanks.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏
@michaeld.uchiha9084
@michaeld.uchiha9084 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact the F86 Sabre basicly is a new development of the ME 262.
@frostedbutts4340
@frostedbutts4340 Жыл бұрын
It really, really isn't lmao. The swept wing is about it otherwise they have nothing in common.
@conceptalfa
@conceptalfa Жыл бұрын
Great analysis!!!👍👍👍
@108hindu
@108hindu Жыл бұрын
I met a b17 pilot that faced a squadron of the 262’s during a raid to schweinfurt. A 262 pilot figured out what radio frequency the b17’s were using. In broken English the German pilot said, “We are coming for you, you 4 engine Fookers”. The b17 pilot said that they got torn up pretty bad.
@TessaractAlemania-hd7tv
@TessaractAlemania-hd7tv Жыл бұрын
As s.o. living in germany, I'm fascinated of this old british testpilot. Mr. Brown is not only smart and pragmatic, but refreshingly sincere and above all FAIR! What he says about the beautiful Me 262 Schwalbe/Sturmvogel I have never heard or read somewhere, and I have dozens of books about the famous german jets, in german, english and other languages, as well as films about them. So thank you very much for this documentary, it's made so good. By the way: Why the Me 262 has never got a REMAKE?! With better motor, jet-engines and wheelsupports? I hope enthusiasts will build a modern version of it and then let's face it's new astonishing capabilities. Like the Horten Ho 229 this amazing fighter jet looking like a space jet is ideal for dogfighting and boom & zoom manouvers...
@wadeguidry6675
@wadeguidry6675 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Brown was, in my eyes, the most badass (in a good way) participant of WW2. Rip.
@eugenemurray2940
@eugenemurray2940 Жыл бұрын
I seem to recall that Me262 ended up with swept wings to balance out the center of gravity of the longer engines compared to those of The Meteor... A wonderful aeroengining solution... Swept wings!
@Eric-kn4yn
@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын
ME 163. Swept wings no CG problems like 262
@DataWaveTaGo
@DataWaveTaGo Жыл бұрын
*Great Man for any occasion! Thank you Eric for taking the time to be interviewed on so many occasions, thus leaving for us an truly important history of aviation.*
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@Samiqmojo
@Samiqmojo Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. A great watch.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@jo-joserraventoso6465
@jo-joserraventoso6465 Жыл бұрын
This plane could easily be refitted with knew Tec and put back to fighting ☀️👍
@paul-we2gf
@paul-we2gf Жыл бұрын
The Me 262 led the way in having swept back wings. Something the Allies wouldn't have until the Hawker Hunter,RAF and the North American F86 Sabre USAF the USSR in an early MIGs
@sheldonworley4549
@sheldonworley4549 Жыл бұрын
The ME262 only had operating window of 6 hours per engine. They could not get the high speed precision ball bearings as the Allies were destroying the factories. Thank God!
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
It think the lifespan was 25h per engine which is still very little. That is why Whittle focus his attention on an alternative (also the first jet engine). His solution was more reliable at the time and much easier to deploy. Unfortunately the British Air Ministry did not listen to him, but certainly the Soviets appreciated his engine in 1955, in the mighty MiG-15 ( courtesy of Rolls Royce). Sign!!!
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
@@mrwhips3623 Well, that engine was still quite trashy. Conside that it took them 5 years from first flight to being operationally decent (I stress the decent part). At the end of 1944 is was both useless, and pointless for the Germans. the Victor's phrase, as cute as it is, is too often used inappropriately and tends to justify any fantastical explanation. Facts are facts. Had Hans Von Ohain opted to copy the British invention of the jet engine, perhaps they would have had a less performing engine on the long run, but a much more reliable one. Von Ohain clearly did not have another 5 years to develop it. As far as I know the axial jet engine only became quite good in the 50s. By the way, both Britain and Whittle were fully aware of the axial flow engine, but Whittle chose to develop (penniless I must say) his easy to develop jet engine, but limited in future development. If I am not mistaken Britain had jet powered aircraft deployed in Belgium in 1941, but they smartly chose not to risk having them fall into enemy's hands.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
@@mrwhips3623 Ok. It is hard to justify the crimes perpetrated by the Germans, no matter how you look at it. Europe. The same goes for Japan, same goes for the Soviet Union. there is no justifiable explanation for the atrocities committed by complete psychopaths and their adoring sheep-filled crowds. At least Mussolini, in Italy, had some sort of resistance that opposed him. Most Germans that tried to kill Hitler did that to gain power, rather than geteliminate one of the biggest monsters in history. Since you started this with a catchphrase, let me give you another one: "History repeats itself". I do not know where you live or were born, but bless the victors and their sacrifice to get rid of a madman and his followers. History is repeating itself as we speak, little by little, and it starts with the justification of unspeakable crimes (little by little of course).
@bierce716
@bierce716 Жыл бұрын
That old myth of sweeping the wings for transonic performance... It was designed, built, and flown as a straight wing taildrager. The wing was swept only to correct a change of center of gravity when they changed engines, and it's critical mach number was identical to the straight wing P80
@paulgush
@paulgush Жыл бұрын
Right. And then he compares it to the Spitfire, instead of the Meteor. The mythology around German weapons in WW2 needs to be busted. The truth is they rushed immature aircraft into service out of desperation
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Well, not only he was alive back then, but he basically flew anything you can think of (almost 500 different aircraft). perhaps he was comparing it to what was available to fight it at the time. We cannot ask him anymore, but that’s a logical deduction if put in context.
@paulgush
@paulgush Жыл бұрын
@DroneScapes the Meteor was in service. It wasn't allowed to fly over enemy lines for fear of it being captured by the enemy. Although he was wrong about some things, it was interesting to hear Brown's account of flying the 262
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
@@paulgush jet aircraft were useless by the end of the war, when they were actually first used. Now, if they supported Whittle’s jet engine in 1929, rather than ignoring him, it would have probably been perfect for the time, given that is was more reliable and easier to develop, as the MiG-15 proved in 1955, but they did not. Ultimately Von Ohain’s jet engine was the first one to fly in 1939 (Whittle’s was tested on the ground in 1937). Beside R&D I don’t think the Brits had much interest in a combat ready jet in the 40s
@5co756
@5co756 Жыл бұрын
@@paulgush First Meteor's were not even faster than props , it had no chance against the 262 . This was nothing about being captured by the enemy , it was simply not good enough . He compared it to what was in the air at that time and he also flew it , so what's your point ? It's strange if keyboard warrior's think they know more than pilots from that time .
@chrischamberlaine4160
@chrischamberlaine4160 Жыл бұрын
Cap’n Brown is a great source of first hand historical facts. I love him. We corresponded on the subject of transonics before he sadly passed on. I have to gently disagree with some of the opening comments. NPL England had a supersonic tunnel in 1922, NACA in 1930 and Guidonia Italy in 1938 and the Germans in 1932. All were small and used for basic aerofoil research, ballistics or propellers. None worked in the transonic range 0.8 to 1.2 because of choking caused by shockwaves bouncing off the tunnels walls. They were of little use to high speed fighter designers.The first working transonic tunnel arrived in 1948. The German tunnels discovered by the Fedden mission in 1945 were better than any in Britain due to their size and sophistication but the results were being used mainly for tomorrow’s war. The Brits and US had good tunnels but the German’s had better. The Me262 was designed in 1940 as a straight wing aircraft and was only influenced by data on the drag reduction of thin aerofoils at high speeds. Thoughts on transonic performance were limited because at that time there was little information on practical flight into compressibility. The engines turned out to be heavier than expected which changed the CofG. Rather than move the wing aft which involved structural redesign of the fuselage and undercarriage it was easier to sweep the outer wing by 14.5 degrees. About the same as the DC3. (The first swept wing airliner??) No thought was given to transonic flight in the wing sweep change which was in any case was too small to make any difference to MachCrit. The 262 had the similar Mach Crit to the Tempest and was lower than the Spitfire. The jet advantage was the elimination of propeller drag which allowed speeds to rise beyond the practical limit of 500mph especially at low altitudes. The Me262 was the best looking of the early jets hence the romantic notions which follow it but in terms of performance it was no better than the allied Vampire, Meteor, P80 group. Eric correctly balances the debate about centrifugal and axial engines. Axials were the future but centrifugals were better in every respect except frontal area in 1945. Todays war. Versions of the Nene were still giving Phantoms trouble in Mig 17’s over VietNam in 1975. Almost all helicopters and small business jet engines are centrifugal. Horses for courses. Refer to - The German Fighter by Kosin and German Development of the Swept Wing by Meier to check the facts stated in this response.
@gretareinarsson7461
@gretareinarsson7461 Жыл бұрын
Amazing airplane and one of the most elegant and beautiful planes of WWII
@Imnotyourdoormat
@Imnotyourdoormat 6 ай бұрын
Voughts F4U Corsair had a top speed of 446 mph....
@kultursender6507
@kultursender6507 Жыл бұрын
The Messerschmitt Me 262 was the first airplane with swept wings - not the F-86 as often claimed.
@richardmeyeroff7397
@richardmeyeroff7397 Жыл бұрын
What about the Arado 2 and 4 engine bombers that were used for reconnaissance.
@patriot8554
@patriot8554 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing life this man had.
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Did you watch his biography?
@charliecurry8872
@charliecurry8872 Жыл бұрын
He states the top speed of the Ju88 as 400 mph however, all the info I have found lists its top speed as 290 mph. I believe he may have been mistaken.
@paulbrouyere1735
@paulbrouyere1735 2 ай бұрын
Yeah WW2 really sparked innovation in aviation. Many important people then
@GTGibbs
@GTGibbs Жыл бұрын
This gentleman is(was?) a living treasure
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Was. Eric Winkle Brown, the man that flew almost 500 different aircraft (not including variations) 😎👍 We have a playlist that also includes his amazing biography: kzbin.info/aero/PLBI4gRjPKfnOzI39MG3ILpQkxPpgoZk4n If you haven’t watched it yet, I suggest you do. He has a truly remarkable career
@peterwagner236
@peterwagner236 7 ай бұрын
Es ist ein Gentleman er war beeindrucken von der Power von Airkraft me😂
@mikeneill6813
@mikeneill6813 Жыл бұрын
Where did the "WINKLE" come from?
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
It comes from periwinkle, a mollusc. that's because he was short. It was an affectionate nickname
@darrenjpeters
@darrenjpeters Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how small it was, when you see one at an airshow with people around it, it just blows my mind how tiny it was. 262, I mean. when you think that it was only about 30 years previous that the Wright brothers travelled 200 feet, and then somebody comes up with this? Going 800 kph?
@Veldtian1
@Veldtian1 Жыл бұрын
Captain Brown is a serious serious badass.
@MrReymoclif714
@MrReymoclif714 Жыл бұрын
Intelligence applied with practical knowledge!
@Salem-TC
@Salem-TC 2 ай бұрын
Allies had zero wind tunnels, Germans had 3 in one town, wow, they were way ahead of the rest of the world, and it took the whole world to bring them down😮😢
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes 2 ай бұрын
True, but to power those aircraft they needed proper turbojets, and theirs were quite disastrous. The Me 262:never stood a chance of being operationally viable. It was deployed at the end of 1944, months before defeat, and it still had a tragically/comically flawed engine. People often cite materials as the sole culprit of why those engines were operationally unusable, but in post WW2 France they tried to make them work properly with the help of 120 Nazi engineers. It took them 8 (!) endless years to do so, and they had to radically modify them, but also seek a partnership with a U.S. company to accomplish success. In the meantime Britain had both proper axial and centrifugal turbojets, as they had been working on them since the late 1920s.
@Salem-TC
@Salem-TC 2 ай бұрын
@@Dronescapeslack of materials my brother, if it was done in peace time with everything at your disposal, than Wow....
@FiveCentsPlease
@FiveCentsPlease 6 күн бұрын
+@Salem-TC You are unaware that the US had the largest wind tunnel in the world in 1931 at Langley, VA for research. Kurt Tank unsuccessfully tried to replica the NACA aerodynamic research done in the US when he designed the Fw-190. NACA research for improved aircraft design began in the US in 1915.
@davidcorless5581
@davidcorless5581 Жыл бұрын
A VERY VERY AMAZING MAN , CAPTAIN ERIC BROWN , R. I P. SIR .
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
He really was.
@ronbishop1068
@ronbishop1068 Жыл бұрын
yes the supersoic wind tunnels where the key to German research as was the axial flow engine far more advanced idea for increases in compression ratios as well As a smaller frontal area!! Thank you for posting this very interesting documentary.
@t37able45
@t37able45 9 ай бұрын
Regards to the Queen for ever Salute from Chile Rest in peace Our Queen too.
@MMOchAForPrez
@MMOchAForPrez 9 ай бұрын
Hello Drone, Around 40:00 the man being interviewed says his plane was struck in it's windscreen by a 20mm round. He also stated he was injured, yet managed to land the plane. I recall seeing a short from Druid Works I believe that seemed to match up with this story. It is AI enhanced footage of a young man landing on an aircraft carrier with a bloodied face and windscreen. He was in shock when the deck crew pulled him out of the cockpit. How remarkable would it be if that footage was of the man who told this story!
@russellhamer8690
@russellhamer8690 Жыл бұрын
Ole winkle will sort em out ... 😊 what a wonderful man ... 😊
@pepsi666
@pepsi666 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing and incredible career
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Did you watch his biography? It is amazing. Here is his playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoS1cpeQr7esmcU
@fubodubo2178
@fubodubo2178 Жыл бұрын
When i played the ME-262 in IL-1946, i would always shove the throttle up and down quickly, and blow the engines up
@Dronescapes
@Dronescapes Жыл бұрын
Pretty short lived engines
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 Жыл бұрын
...this guy had the best job of the whole war.
@mahalalel7771
@mahalalel7771 9 ай бұрын
It looks futuristic for some reason.
@theskeptic2010
@theskeptic2010 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@darkawakening01
@darkawakening01 Жыл бұрын
That guy was invited by Ernst Udet in his youth to have a litte flight together... What a great story. Such a chad.
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