Former Post Office Minister Paul Scully On Calls To Remove Paula Vennells' CBE| Good Morning Britain

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@paulhemmings9245
@paulhemmings9245 11 ай бұрын
It was not a drawn-out arcane process for the government when it came to giving money to their mates in the PPE scandal.
@rollyunicorn
@rollyunicorn 11 ай бұрын
Good point.
@bigpants6121
@bigpants6121 11 ай бұрын
true. VIP lanes for them.
@alananderson6812
@alananderson6812 11 ай бұрын
spot on! They can find the money when it's going into the wrong pockets.
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 11 ай бұрын
This started under Labour child. The PO victims have been at least started to be compensated under Conservatives.
@miamidiaz8369
@miamidiaz8369 11 ай бұрын
@@lestrem11 I am a yank and even I know the Conservatives only started to begin compensation because the ITV drama and public backlash finally kickstarted them to get off their rear and act. Or do you really believe they just started to act now conveniently out of the goodness in their hearts you sweet summer child.
@daviddenham1511
@daviddenham1511 11 ай бұрын
Stripped of her CBE?……she should be sent to prison!
@gclarke180
@gclarke180 11 ай бұрын
Or maybe Rowanda
@daviddenham1511
@daviddenham1511 11 ай бұрын
@@gclarke180 Rwanda even
@hamishpaterson2413
@hamishpaterson2413 11 ай бұрын
She wasn’t stripped of it she handed it back 🤷‍♂️ Means nothing!! Would’ve been better if she had been stripped of it - she needs to be punished for her crimes and that would’ve been a start!
@daviddenham1511
@daviddenham1511 11 ай бұрын
@@hamishpaterson2413 as I said, prison
@daviddenham1511
@daviddenham1511 11 ай бұрын
@@dingopisscreek agreed
@showlett33
@showlett33 11 ай бұрын
Vennells made conscious decisions to maliciously prosecute innocent people, she is a criminal that caused pain and suffering on a mass scale.
@jaspaltoor2061
@jaspaltoor2061 11 ай бұрын
Vennels is the bogey man. Yes she needs to be dragged over the coals. But all this focus on her and her CBE is keeping the attention away from a lot of other equally or more guilty people.
@Jon-xw9om
@Jon-xw9om 11 ай бұрын
And yet she was being considered as possibly the next Bishop Of London. Which would have given her a seat on the House of Lords!
@JelMain
@JelMain 11 ай бұрын
@@Jon-xw9om Ye Gods! Welby had her on an Ethical Investments Board. Tony Bell (formerly Head of Internal Audit of an FT-100 Company, likewise priested) needs to look at that.
@kurtgodel5236
@kurtgodel5236 11 ай бұрын
That sounds like she's prime ministerial material.
@JelMain
@JelMain 11 ай бұрын
@@kurtgodel5236 No, she's a classic fall-guy, taking the blame - or at least intending to, if it were not that that particular play's been so overused by these totally incompetent puppeteers we see through it at first glance, right alongside lessons learned, not informed, nearest long grass, public enquiry, laws which won't happen because the election bins them, Old Uncle Tom Cobblers and all.
@mrechelon7051
@mrechelon7051 11 ай бұрын
She needs to lose her house. Her income. Her liberty. She needs to be made bankrupt. See how she likes it
@paulrichards6894
@paulrichards6894 11 ай бұрын
she is high up in the church of england......
@Paul_C
@Paul_C 11 ай бұрын
Let's be clear: all of the governments during the period bear responsibility for ALL OF IT, DURING AND CERTAINLY NOW.
@Ken_oh545
@Ken_oh545 11 ай бұрын
​@paulrichards6894 no she was required to step down in the St Albans diocese in 2021
@paulrichards6894
@paulrichards6894 11 ай бұрын
@@Ken_oh545 i know justin welby saw her as a person he looked up to
@frankcarter6427
@frankcarter6427 10 ай бұрын
she'll be feeling very sorry for herself and will never face real consequences
@waldorfstatler3129
@waldorfstatler3129 11 ай бұрын
Like Grenfell, those responsible will NOT go to jail. We live in a society where the rich and powerful are not held to account for their crimes. You have to be wealthy to afford a lawyer to fight these corrupt/criminal people or corporations and that's another reason there is so much injustice in the UK. With the increasing frequency of computer error or down time, I fear we will be seeing much more of this type of crime/coverup.
@bobeyes3284
@bobeyes3284 11 ай бұрын
Who was responsible for Grenfell?
@michaelengland7228
@michaelengland7228 11 ай бұрын
​@@bobeyes3284whoever allowed flammable material to be used to clad a building. Nothing I believe like this is allowed under German building codes.
@childoftheuniverse2644
@childoftheuniverse2644 11 ай бұрын
​@@bobeyes3284 , the ones who had been bribed to allow the construction company to use cheaper and flammable materials
@sharonhart3111
@sharonhart3111 11 ай бұрын
Yes that’s right, because the Grenfell people are poorer working class they don’t have the strength energy, knowledge or time to fight the injustice.
@lestrem11
@lestrem11 11 ай бұрын
Actually, it was media cover that is resolving this issue not lawyers.
@stephenjon3502
@stephenjon3502 11 ай бұрын
What the real problem is, is that it took a TV programme to bring this shocking treatment of honest, hardworking people to get MPs start talking about it. Joke.
@decentcomment9447
@decentcomment9447 11 ай бұрын
It's honestly crazy. My first job was in a post office and I couldn't believe it when I was talking to my boss about it, I mainly couldn't believe that I hadn't heard about it before, granted it could be due to my age and a fair amount of ignorance but I'm glad that this is at the centre of the news and I hope it remains that way until it's resolved.
@robertstubbs8062
@robertstubbs8062 11 ай бұрын
I'm afraid to say, that's the parasitic nature of lawyers. The taxpayers will be picking up the Bill once again.
@stephenjon3502
@stephenjon3502 11 ай бұрын
@@decentcomment9447It will probably end up like most of the investigations funded by the taxpayer and brushed aside. The elite always look after themselves.
@nevadatan7323
@nevadatan7323 11 ай бұрын
TV gives authority to everything, its dangerous and depressing. Injustices occur IRL each n every day n nobody cares coz we're more attached to screens than to other humans
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 11 ай бұрын
Private Eye, Computer Weekly and a small number of MPs got this travesty highlighted. The media are friends with the elites and want it covered up.
@Ken_Dodds_Tickling_Stick
@Ken_Dodds_Tickling_Stick 11 ай бұрын
She shouldn't be made to hand back her CBE, she should be AUTOMATICALLY STRIPPED of the CBE, then she should pay the sub post masters and sub post mistresses all the money those poor people had to pay out their own pockets to make up short falls and then stand trial for fraud. Give her a taste of what these honest people went through.
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
When did you come to this conclusion?
@Ken_Dodds_Tickling_Stick
@Ken_Dodds_Tickling_Stick 11 ай бұрын
@@fritzhenning1 and who's that directed to?
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
Anyone who has just joined the bandwagon of outrage. This miscarriage has been known for years.
@Royboy50
@Royboy50 11 ай бұрын
So should the honourable Tony bliar,so should lord David conman and there are more honourable members who should be stripped of honours
@JelMain
@JelMain 11 ай бұрын
Machiavelli advised, if you can't govern by love, govern by fear. Remember this, though, once you walk that path, there's no reversion - as this blighter knows.
@Andrew-tx9jy
@Andrew-tx9jy 11 ай бұрын
Stripping her of the CBE should be only the first step...
@mareeauld5778
@mareeauld5778 10 ай бұрын
Then gaol and all bonuses returned
@lizmacs3653
@lizmacs3653 11 ай бұрын
Fujisu should pay the compensation not the British tax payer
@adeptusmagi
@adeptusmagi 11 ай бұрын
Fujitsu have actually been given Billions in and local authority and education authority contracts last year alone The Post Office alone since April last year has 2 contracts with Fujitsu 1 .Extension of Horizon Data Centre Operations and Central Network Services - 2.3 Billion 2. Extension of the Data Centre Operations and Central Network Services (Including Test Infrastructure) 2.4 billion I did think in order to bid on any government contracts companies had to be on a DTI approval list for safe and reputable companies Why then If Fujitsu have already committed perjury over Issues with a government contract is it still one this list ?
@1957bumpy
@1957bumpy 11 ай бұрын
And the government minister who signed off on it !
@Party-pants
@Party-pants 11 ай бұрын
It’s always easy to blame the government. I agree Fujitsu are to blame, they’re program, they’re problem!
@childoftheuniverse2644
@childoftheuniverse2644 11 ай бұрын
​@@Party-pants , really? Do you know what the government stands for? People from government allowed all these to happen.
@lizbutler9108
@lizbutler9108 11 ай бұрын
that would only lead to further delay, and undoubtedly the company declaring bankruptcy. Th government should pay and then get the money back from the company.
@tu9ue
@tu9ue 11 ай бұрын
Paula Vennells should be going straight to Jail.
@ShaunBryant-e3u
@ShaunBryant-e3u 11 ай бұрын
Shocking and upsetting in equal measure. The focus is on Paula Venals and rightly but there must have been a large number of advisors involved in the cover up. They must all be exposed and brought to account. Well done ITV
@laurieharper1526
@laurieharper1526 11 ай бұрын
So if Fujitsu staff were covertly accessing sub-post office accounting systems to patch/update them, they would have to have recognised that fraud was not being committed. Why in that case did Fujitsu not come clean to the Post Office and tell them the staff were not committing fraud? This stinks even more as the facts come out.
@bigpants6121
@bigpants6121 11 ай бұрын
Nick Wallis told me more horror stories about this.
@LeilaniKage
@LeilaniKage 10 ай бұрын
I think they did, but the post office wanted to cover it up! I can't actually work out why. They could have just said it's not working properly and none of this would have happened. @@bigpants6121
@gbear1005
@gbear1005 8 ай бұрын
maybe they are STILL stealing?
@3rah356
@3rah356 11 ай бұрын
I agree. How many times are we going to let free all the influentials on the Top to escape justice ?
@JelMain
@JelMain 11 ай бұрын
12 months, clock's ticking.
@richardbennett5614
@richardbennett5614 11 ай бұрын
I guess Paula Vennels will questioned at the enquiry and this disaster will be put down to the corporate failure and will come out smelling of roses. A bit like the railway incidents when lives were lost in recent years.!!Dreadfull!
@michaelandrews4783
@michaelandrews4783 11 ай бұрын
Now you understand why the french revolution happened.
@JelMain
@JelMain 11 ай бұрын
@@michaelandrews4783 I prefer the Belgian one. That was ridiculous.
@DonaldMackay-x7s
@DonaldMackay-x7s 10 ай бұрын
​@@michaelandrews4783I know you are being flippant with your comment, however if you look at all of the revolutions in the last 200 years they only happened when enough people couldn't put food on the table! The UK is not quite there yet!
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 11 ай бұрын
The elites want you to forget this issue and hope the ditching of the CBE placates you. The workers went to prison. Fujitsu management and the PO management knew they were in the wrong.
@loyaltytoroyalty
@loyaltytoroyalty 11 ай бұрын
Never mind the CBE, Vennells still left her Post Office job with a whopping £400,000 bonus. How about paying that back?
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 11 ай бұрын
Yes, a bonus for being a criminal
@alanreid8962
@alanreid8962 11 ай бұрын
Jesus has shone on her
@Lynnefromlyn
@Lynnefromlyn 11 ай бұрын
Er she got 3 million!
@loyaltytoroyalty
@loyaltytoroyalty 11 ай бұрын
@@Lynnefromlyn I read that her golden goodbye was £400,000, but is believed to have received nearly £3 million in performance-related perks and payments in lieu of pension. That last piece of information came out after I posted my original comment.
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 11 ай бұрын
@@loyaltytoroyalty What I would like to know is how a corporation that was at that time under public ownership could afford such pay-outs ? The PO was sold supposedly because it didn't make money. Give her salary & bonuses back to us who paid for them
@boontjes5528
@boontjes5528 11 ай бұрын
In the Netherlands we had somewhat of a similar scandal. Honest people prosecuted, losing their homes, partners, children in some cases… What is wrong in western countries that these injustices can happen? And instead of compensating at a fast pace, it takes years and years which increases the agony and the damage…. And nobody held accountable… it makes me so mad…
@AA-yc8yr
@AA-yc8yr 11 ай бұрын
At least these things get aired in the open and some compensation happens in the West. Elsewhere people speaking up would have been thrown in jail, if not worse.
@britishempire2330
@britishempire2330 11 ай бұрын
@@AA-yc8yr You're missing the very important point that in the UK, which is a part of the *West* the last time I checked, a *government* body called the Post Office sent threatening letters to BBC managers to STOP them from *airing this issue in the open!* Yes, it WAS eventually aired, but the point is, the Post Office did its level best to intimidate BBC managers into keeping this scandal quiet. The UK ain't clean, and it's not anywhere near the top of Transparency International's list of corruption-free countries. I believe the least corrupt country in the world is either New Zealand or Singapore. UK is way down the list, and this scandal shows you why.
@AA-yc8yr
@AA-yc8yr 11 ай бұрын
@@britishempire2330 The only missing THE point is you. Go re-read my comment you apparently are responding to, and arguing with. I don't care what you believe in re. which country is least corrupt, on account of that NOT being the point. Some reading with comprehension would have helped here, had you been capable of it.
@cugnaoozen9956
@cugnaoozen9956 11 ай бұрын
Was it about the dutch childcare benefits? A software computing bug which had led to this scandal
@voulafisentzidis8830
@voulafisentzidis8830 11 ай бұрын
​@@britishempire2330as a kiwi I'm proud to say that my little country is usually first, first equal or in the top four.
@spartacusforlife1508
@spartacusforlife1508 11 ай бұрын
Worse still who recommended her for her N.H.S. position especially after it came post her appearance before the select committee. Really? Is this the best we can do? Appoint people who totally failed at one job then give them another
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 11 ай бұрын
Revolving door policy Elite Club Pure corruption
@ibrahimmoosbally1026
@ibrahimmoosbally1026 6 ай бұрын
Just like the third world, eh!
@alanfrancis9225
@alanfrancis9225 11 ай бұрын
The post office must never be allowed to prosecute their own internal staff again.
@MarkReynolds-c2o
@MarkReynolds-c2o 11 ай бұрын
It showed how desperate and despicable the Post Office were when the judge found in favour of the victims and then the PO legal team put in a complaint against the judge allegedly accusing him of being bias. All those from PO must be brought to justice and as the innocent victims sent to prison.
@chad0x
@chad0x 11 ай бұрын
How could the Post Office possibly think that all these postmasters were crooks?? It's just so unbelievably unlikley that such a high concentration of criminals just happened to be postmasters!
@mandolinic
@mandolinic 11 ай бұрын
I worked on a large IT system for a large, nationalised employer (not saying who). The view of the management of that company was that *all* their employees were crooks and were fiddling large sums of money. I think when Horizon started finding these hundreds of problems, the attitude of the Post Office was "Well, we knew we had a massive problem. Now we know just who's fiddling the books".
@voulafisentzidis8830
@voulafisentzidis8830 11 ай бұрын
That was my first question. The idiocy continues. I'm listening to the audio book and it's heart-wrenching to learn what the victims had to go through. Thus far, only one victim refused to accept liability (despite the emotional cost) against legal advice. Heads need to roll. TRUSTING OUR GUT INSTINCT IS A NECESSITY RATHER THAN FOLLOWING OTHERS' ADVICE.
@willieckaslike
@willieckaslike 11 ай бұрын
Oh, I don't know. Just take a look at PARLIAMENT (both Houses)
@occamraiser
@occamraiser 10 ай бұрын
fair point @@willieckaslike
@carolynandcocohaywood2638
@carolynandcocohaywood2638 10 ай бұрын
Yes why didn’t someone say ‘ this can’t be right’. Surely the lawyers and judges must have thought this is ridiculous.
@JL-yg8gl
@JL-yg8gl 11 ай бұрын
The plain fact is, you can never compensate the years of misery these people and their families suffered. In certain countries the politicians and business leaders who caused this injustice would be stood against the wall.
@michaelandrews4783
@michaelandrews4783 11 ай бұрын
They need to see jail time or nothing will change, very convientient the rich in power can't be held accountable by the laws they make.
@tomricketts7821
@tomricketts7821 10 ай бұрын
Oh for the rumble of the tumbrills wheels in Trafalgar Square
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 10 ай бұрын
You certainly can't, but you can at least make sure justice is seen to be upheld when the truth arises.
@johnclarke8096
@johnclarke8096 11 ай бұрын
And she should hand back her MBE and stand trial for fraud.
@showlett33
@showlett33 11 ай бұрын
There is a long list of what she should be charged with. conspiracy to commit theft of thousands of £'s from multiple victims coercion malicious prosecution of 3500 people false imprisonment of 700 people withholding evidence perjury misleading parliament conspiracy to pervert the cause of justice slander / libel bringing the legal system into disrepute Not to mention the responsibility for causing 4 self inflicted deaths and delaying justice for so long that another 18 passed of natural causes whilst she purposefully delayed prosecution forcing houses to be sold / repossessed and forcing people to have to relocate divorces / families to break up causing serious mental health crisis to many damage to credit scores damage to reputations mass unfair dismissals I imagine there is more. Let us not forget much of this happened whilst she was a multi millionaire ordained priest living in a mansion telling others to be humble decent and honest
@johnclarke8096
@johnclarke8096 11 ай бұрын
@nannieg7622 Thank you my mistake.
@samspade975
@samspade975 11 ай бұрын
Have you noticed, these “computer errors “ always seem to favour the company?, there always seems to be an inertia except when it’s in the politicians interest
@michaeltoohey1385
@michaeltoohey1385 11 ай бұрын
Yes, by odd coincidence all discrepancies were cash deficiencies. Branch figures were able to be remotely altered without the knowledge of the operators in the various post offices, how were the unknown millions extorted from them accounted for? By false accounting perhaps?
@margaretchapman8499
@margaretchapman8499 11 ай бұрын
Hadn’t thought about that, good one
@granthallam7644
@granthallam7644 11 ай бұрын
Yet another example of enrichment by lawyers bringing the appeals to court on an individual basis rather than en mass, soaking up tax payer money set aside by government for compensation claims. Totally reprehensible!
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
Ah, blame the lawyers! But which lawyers are appealling, to whom and on whose behalf? I thought the call was for a public inquiry into the whole sorry mess. Those postmasters/misstresses who have already been through the courts will have had their own lawyers. There should be no need for appeals if the government and post office got their compensation act together....but as usual getting any money will be like pulling teeth.
@brendasmith1093
@brendasmith1093 11 ай бұрын
And we the tax payers were paying the bill.
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
We, the tax payer. flogged off the PO at a knock-down price in 2014. That cost us £750 million according to the NAO.@@brendasmith1093
@esclad
@esclad 11 ай бұрын
When Fujitsu were selected by the government for the new PO system, there were better systems that had their bid rejected simply because Fujitsu was the cheapest bid. For me, the government is just as culpable as Fujitsu.
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 11 ай бұрын
Exactly And they looked the other way when the scandal hit.
@Noellegable
@Noellegable 11 ай бұрын
The Home Office uses Fujitsu/Horizon
@anthonyshortland7920
@anthonyshortland7920 11 ай бұрын
We must make the Post Office pay and the top boss's go to prison.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 11 ай бұрын
Fujitsu need to pay.
@rogernevin7461
@rogernevin7461 11 ай бұрын
And all the Government PO ministers that did sweet FA.
@1957bumpy
@1957bumpy 11 ай бұрын
@rogernevin7461 yes ALL of them from when the scandal started in 1999
@suzannemcguigan2752
@suzannemcguigan2752 11 ай бұрын
The Post Office also needs to pay. They took millions from sub postmasters. They then held it in a suspense account (accruing interest), then paid it into Post Office profits. These profits were then paid out in bonuses. The Post Office needs to start there, with interest to date and adjusted for inflation. £4300 was worth a lot more money in 1999 than it is now in 2024. Then, they can start thinking about compensation. 0​@@andrewoliver8930
@DonaldMackay-x7s
@DonaldMackay-x7s 10 ай бұрын
It simply won't happen!
@3rah356
@3rah356 11 ай бұрын
Just imagine we are leading our next generation towards Artifical Intelligence. This is so horrendous... So so monstrous !
@chrisskelton2067
@chrisskelton2067 11 ай бұрын
Just made that very comment on another thread
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
Why is artificial intelligence so horrendous...so so monstrous. Splitting the atom didn't create the bomb...man did that and man dropped it!
@chrisskelton2067
@chrisskelton2067 11 ай бұрын
@@fritzhenning1 Well haven’t you just answered your own question. These programmes are also produced by humanity and then released on the population. Surely that degree of autonomy makes them worse than the atom bomb by your very argument
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
You cannot uninvent AI just as you cannot uninvent 2+2 = 4. It's what you do with that knowledge that is critical. AI can/should be amazing but 3rah356 immediately saw it as so evil that s/he wanted it banned.
@dibdab101
@dibdab101 11 ай бұрын
@@fritzhenning1that is exactly why... because man cannot be trusted to use new technologies and scientific discoveries for the benefit of all instead of using it for power and exploitation of fellow human beings. nothing by itself is good or evil, it is what you do with it.
@suzanneburn9873
@suzanneburn9873 11 ай бұрын
To give an extended contract to fegitsui is beyond incompetent its deliberate, it's courrupt
@ingmarsen
@ingmarsen 11 ай бұрын
* Fujitsu !
@DK-dq8bu
@DK-dq8bu 11 ай бұрын
All those, including government ministers responsible should be prosecuted.
@Ruth-ff7jw
@Ruth-ff7jw 11 ай бұрын
It is truly unbelievable what has happened to all these people and even more devastating that people took their own lives. For each year that the accused staff have been out of work because of this, they should all get full pay refunded, plus compensation on top. Paid for by the Post Office and the Computer company that designed the machinery that caused the problem.
@markherzog9484
@markherzog9484 11 ай бұрын
Everyone should remember that the CEOs of these huge organisations are not in place to look after the interests of the customers or the staff, she, like the gormless Thompson at Royal Mail, was in place to look after the interests of the owners and their own pay and rewards packages…… blowing the whistle on the Horizon system would not have been in her interest, replacing it would have cost PO multi millions and she wouldn’t have got her bonus and then pay-off of over £400k….all her payoff would directly have been funded by the stolen money postmasters had to pay for nonexistent debts…….
@kruger-3522
@kruger-3522 11 ай бұрын
Paula Vennells should be in jail!!!!
@stuartrobertson4714
@stuartrobertson4714 11 ай бұрын
She's in Turkey having her teeth done
@TheBailiff2
@TheBailiff2 11 ай бұрын
Paula Veneers!
@paulmasonsjazz9611
@paulmasonsjazz9611 11 ай бұрын
I would like to think the Post Office will pay back all the money they stole from postmasters immediately, with full interest from the day they stole it.
@gordonwilson6553
@gordonwilson6553 11 ай бұрын
every penny plus interest plus compensation for pain and suffering for every hour they they all had to go through this horrendous ordeal good luck to them all
@JelMain
@JelMain 11 ай бұрын
@@gordonwilson6553 Interest at Statutory rates, which are penal.
@GA-wd2gd
@GA-wd2gd 11 ай бұрын
Listening to lbc earlier someone said she might have handed back her cbe but they suggested her huge pension should be taken back. These people will never go to jail, or punished but something like removing her inflated pension could be a powerful message to others who take advantage.
@nataliescott2261
@nataliescott2261 11 ай бұрын
The only reason the “government “ are doing something is because it was on tv . They should all stand trial for what they did or didn’t do. That women needs to give award and pension back
@davidvranch821
@davidvranch821 11 ай бұрын
And the elections are coming.
@michaelbrian219
@michaelbrian219 11 ай бұрын
Something for Sunak to crow about as a success for him and his party.
@MEF1215
@MEF1215 11 ай бұрын
Well said it was glaring for years and all parties in the House of commons knew. And they also know who put that awful women for a CBE why wont they say closing ranks
@1957bumpy
@1957bumpy 11 ай бұрын
Which government ? 🤔
@MEF1215
@MEF1215 11 ай бұрын
@@1957bumpy Every person who held the office as head of the PO in that period when people were being wrongly convicted should be sent to trial.
@londonman8688
@londonman8688 11 ай бұрын
it has to be on public record who proposed her
@franmellor9843
@franmellor9843 11 ай бұрын
Let's hope a programme about the blood contamination scandal is made & bring JUSTICE to the people who are LONG overdue it & RIP to the people who got none
@sc3304
@sc3304 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I was hoping someone would mention the contaminated blood scandal. Are they still waiting to be compensated too?
@franmellor9843
@franmellor9843 11 ай бұрын
@@sc3304 yes
@franmellor9843
@franmellor9843 11 ай бұрын
@@sc3304 further to my last reply, I am now hearing a programme about the blood scandal WILL! now be made..HOORAY! : edit & if the documentary maker's will hopefully make one about the Thalidomide scandal too
@Berlitz81
@Berlitz81 11 ай бұрын
This is what happens when an appointment to a top executive position is made on grounds other than a proven record of ability and competency to carry out the functions demanded by such a pivotal post. Race, gender nor religion should form part of the selection process for any vacant position.
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
Are you suggesting these posts were filled based on race, gender or religion or are you displaying your biggoted prejudice.
@Mina-gm3pg
@Mina-gm3pg 11 ай бұрын
Yes, look at the incompetent leaders brought in to break through the glass ceiling and then manage to being down the company. Waitrose being one of them, Itv another.
@robtheplod
@robtheplod 11 ай бұрын
MP's are happy to sit on their hands rather than ask awkward questions - and these people represent us!
@shelleysmith4017
@shelleysmith4017 11 ай бұрын
These days they don’t represent us, they represent big businesses, the wealthy and themselves, but never us!
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
This scandal has been known for for some considerable time. Did you ask any awkward questions, or any questions at all?
@rogernevin7461
@rogernevin7461 11 ай бұрын
The questions i would ask would be, who from the Government sanctioned the supposedly dodgy Fujitsu Computer system, how much did it cost the tax payer and who got the 'kick-backs' ? That will be why they have dragged their heels for years.
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
@@rogernevin7461A government minister would have signed this off, based on reams of documentation provided by civil servants. What evidence do you have about 'kick-backs'. I hope you have shared this with the poluie.
@nicksmith4361
@nicksmith4361 11 ай бұрын
Ed Davey has some explaining to do. He was as complicit as Vennells and dismissed Mr Bates when he asked him to intervene.
@jamesrussel1133
@jamesrussel1133 11 ай бұрын
Well done Good Morning Britain, you did your research and passionately argued to reveal the truth and the issues which require further investigation to deliver justice to the innocent and prosecution of the truly guilty.
@orraman5427
@orraman5427 11 ай бұрын
What's stopping the government from setting up a VIP lane to compensate the sub-postmasters?
@Dylanesque
@Dylanesque 11 ай бұрын
VIP lanes are for Tory chums and donors only.
@Ian-mj4pt
@Ian-mj4pt 11 ай бұрын
Because none are their mates or donors so of course they won't rush it . They will rather make all the faux outrage clucking and giving the pathetic soundbites for the papers
@orraman5427
@orraman5427 11 ай бұрын
@@Ian-mj4pt Faux outrage and pathetic soundbites are all that's left in the Tory party locker.
@Dylanesque
@Dylanesque 11 ай бұрын
I see they removed my comment then. Obviously, if you post really harsh truths, they're neither appreciated nor welcome.
@orraman5427
@orraman5427 11 ай бұрын
@@Dylanesque It wasn't me.
@leonhughes134
@leonhughes134 11 ай бұрын
The magnitude of this scandal is beyond my comprehension at this moment.
@markjones8805
@markjones8805 11 ай бұрын
Why have NONE of the Post Office board faced CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS. They knew what was going on. Take THEIR houses, bonus's off them. FUJITSU should be Sued by the postmasters for their part in this Fiasco. They need to be the ones who pay any compensation.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 11 ай бұрын
The Fujitsu CEO from 2014 to 2018 is married to the Education Secretary. It's a club of elites. *Updated as I said he was the current CEO.
@bigpants6121
@bigpants6121 11 ай бұрын
is that Gillian Keegan?
@gdrums7733
@gdrums7733 11 ай бұрын
Well this week next week she could be health minister.😂
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 11 ай бұрын
@@bigpants6121 Michael Keegan is her husband. CEO from 2014 to 18.
@mauricecraig9531
@mauricecraig9531 11 ай бұрын
Why was Adam Crozier not mentioned in the ITV Drama ? Simple answer. He was an ITV Executive
@rb1062
@rb1062 11 ай бұрын
CEO!
@Stuboy
@Stuboy 11 ай бұрын
If youre not royals or an MP you & your life are insignificant, proven time and time again.
@andrewoliver8930
@andrewoliver8930 11 ай бұрын
People keep waving flags at Royalty because we're brainwashed by the compliant sections of the media.
@1957bumpy
@1957bumpy 11 ай бұрын
Or an illegal gimmigrant then you get a brand new appartment built for the homeless !
@CharmsRice
@CharmsRice 11 ай бұрын
Fujitsu, Ed Davey, Keir Starmer & anyone who had the power to overturn, challenge or dismiss the unlawful charges bought against the postmasters should be held accountable in the strongest possible way. Make an example of them and ensure that no other CEO, MP or Legal Entity does this again ! Water Company bosses and NHS Management beware !! We are watching 👀 you !!! Sick of Upper mgt getting away with despicable behaviour and being financially rewarded for it!! Enough!
@AA-yc8yr
@AA-yc8yr 11 ай бұрын
Interesting you list Davey and Statmer, but not Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss, and lil' Rishi too? Can't imagine why that is.
@Lynnefromlyn
@Lynnefromlyn 11 ай бұрын
You do know education Secretary Gillian Keenan’s husband Michael was CEO also at Fujitsu until 2018! And two other tories in high places had high level jobs with Fujitsu. Look at the foulness in your own nest before you try and throw 💩at people who didn’t do anything as bad!
@barrymccullock4757
@barrymccullock4757 11 ай бұрын
Essentially the Post Office with the complicity of government officials and the IT company Fujitsu, defrauded, committed perjury and unlawfully prosecuted those innocent postal employees. In the process they also unlawfully caused the deaths of some, ruined the mental and physical health of many, financially damaged and unlawfully imprisoned them. The catalogue of crimes is phenomenal and must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and anything less would be a travesty of justice.
@nopelindoputraperkasa5869
@nopelindoputraperkasa5869 11 ай бұрын
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@SusanLUK
@SusanLUK 11 ай бұрын
BUT WHEN WILL THE LAW BE CHANGED TO STOP THIS EVER HAPPENING AGAIN! Even the police are not allowed to investigate themselves, why are the Post Office the only exception to this rule of law? This was never about the British law system, it came from a national company, owned by the government, being given license to act outside of it!
@jonb4020
@jonb4020 11 ай бұрын
It's not just the Post Office: there are several organisations connected with the State that investigate, prosecute and convict people with little legal oversight and no independent legal process. Lives and careers can be ruined by incompetent or even malicious, unqualified people where the process is not under the control of a judge and not subject to the normal rules of evidence and and the accepted norms of fairness that the legal system in the UK tries to uphold.
@JelMain
@JelMain 11 ай бұрын
The biggest being the European Commission, who have not presented a correct set of balanced accounts in a quarter of a century. I've run the books of an International Organisation, which balanced when we closed it, as they had all the way through, including an operation in Albania, which they did nothing to help.
@jeanarmstrong7307
@jeanarmstrong7307 10 ай бұрын
SHOCKING
@ianferguson2434
@ianferguson2434 11 ай бұрын
Why is the tax payer having the burden of the compensation payments. When Fujitsu profited from the government contract. It should be them & all the individual's who hounded these poor people to stand the costs incurred. Seems they are rewarded for abject failure at all levels
@caterine837
@caterine837 11 ай бұрын
The post masters had to pay the post office for the so called shortages so what did the post office do with that money? Paid bonuses?
@T1M6
@T1M6 11 ай бұрын
Ministers knew about this years ago ...as I did. ( I have no post office connection) ...so why did they all keep quiet for SO LONG ?
@guymurrish2765
@guymurrish2765 11 ай бұрын
Vennells, Van den Bogarde, everyone of the PO mediation team and the PO prosecutors, accountable Fujitsu execs, all jail time. Davey and Cable, your political careers and reputations are in tatters, return your knighthoods, resign and never return to public office.
@andym.6141
@andym.6141 11 ай бұрын
CBE - ‘Can’t Blame Executives’
@jamesgreen807
@jamesgreen807 11 ай бұрын
What!
@stephenjohnson2800
@stephenjohnson2800 11 ай бұрын
Just like Covid, who appointed this woman? Remember Sage, who appointed the chosen ones to the Committee……..nobody asks such a question? I wonder why? Yet many millions spent on the charade Public Enquiry.
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 11 ай бұрын
The Cabinet Office selected SAGE. The Cabinet Office is an arm of civil service that in effect controls government but the public have no idea See "Yes Minister" comedy
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 11 ай бұрын
The public, quite frankly , were thick when it came to Gov policy and a bunch of psychopaths called Behavioural Psychologists decided how we should live and were accepted on face value , for covid. The Gov knew it was dealing with cretins when they accepted such non- medical people to " mandate" them.
@stephenjohnson2800
@stephenjohnson2800 11 ай бұрын
@@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 exactly, but there is no accountability and from within they appoint others with their own disposition so the control and agenda is maintained. We even had a communist party member on SAGE in the form of Susan Michie, now with the reward of a nice number with WHO. It’s all wheels within wheels. Blair did a good job packing the institutions, quangos etc with his people.
@BigAL0074
@BigAL0074 11 ай бұрын
GREAT QUESTIONING.
@flashback9966
@flashback9966 11 ай бұрын
How about a VIP lane for compensaton. This worked pretty well when it was for 'friends' of the Government. . .
@fracturedopal
@fracturedopal 11 ай бұрын
Nick Wallis is such an outstanding communicator, kudos to him for being almost as indefatigable as Alan Bates.
@BlokeOnAMotorbike
@BlokeOnAMotorbike 11 ай бұрын
I can tell you who recommended Venells for a CBE: ELIZABETH TRUSS.
@josephberrie9550
@josephberrie9550 11 ай бұрын
she was not the PM in 2019
@paulmason5350
@paulmason5350 10 ай бұрын
Doesnt have to be the PM who recommends for a gong
@natalied9022
@natalied9022 8 ай бұрын
No way!!
@simmybear31
@simmybear31 8 ай бұрын
Utterly disgusting every executive who mislead parliament and the courts should face significant prison time NOW!
@roddersfiftynine
@roddersfiftynine 10 ай бұрын
Something to think about: as Paula Vennells was doing the hokey-kokey at expensive PO christmas dinnerings, (videos online to prove it) several INNOCENT postmasters were locked up in prison !
@gavinparry5426
@gavinparry5426 11 ай бұрын
A Tory minister in charge of PO from 2020 does not know who gave her a CBE in 2019.....yeah right!
@ingmarsen
@ingmarsen 11 ай бұрын
It's usually a committee and many levels before any thing is signed off , so not so simple fella !
@markknight1011
@markknight1011 11 ай бұрын
And who where the others in charge from 2000 ?
@gavinparry5426
@gavinparry5426 11 ай бұрын
So on what basis was she given this honour then ? (many years into the scandal !!!)@@ingmarsen
@probro9898
@probro9898 11 ай бұрын
One person with questions to answer is Dr Robert Worden, the expert witness for the post office. He presented a strawman of the claiments case, saying they were suggesting some form of "backward causality". The guy is either ignorant of basic statistics, or else was lying. Given that he has a PhD in mathematics (from Cambridge no less), which do you think is the case?
@bouffon1
@bouffon1 10 ай бұрын
As soon as you hear "there are lessons to be learned" you know something is wrong.
@jedjones9047
@jedjones9047 11 ай бұрын
And these mp's call themselves honourable men what a joke.
@josephberrie9550
@josephberrie9550 11 ай бұрын
and women
@Ken_oh545
@Ken_oh545 11 ай бұрын
Well there are honourable MPs. James Arbuthnot and Andrew Bridgen were outspoken over many years on behalf of the subpostmasters.
@johnsidwell2241
@johnsidwell2241 11 ай бұрын
Too late she's handed it back now go after Davey for his knighthood to be withdrawn
@AndreaRossini-le5mx
@AndreaRossini-le5mx 11 ай бұрын
Jail time for the Post Office Management and Chief Excecutives
@mickdebergerac1143
@mickdebergerac1143 11 ай бұрын
I think i would be fair to just absolve all charges, pay each person £1.000.000 within the coming weeks and let the inquiries get on with it. If anymore compensation is due to different people for whatever reason after this, then so be it. Don't delay the payouts, it's not right.
@jeffhaack1325
@jeffhaack1325 11 ай бұрын
Sound alike a few prosecutors thought they’d make a name for themselves, all need to be held accountable. I couldn’t even imagine this
@michaelenglish2066
@michaelenglish2066 11 ай бұрын
they mangaged to drop the bruocracy for ppe and lining there mates pockets ..no problem there
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 11 ай бұрын
Paula Vennells was carrying out the actions that the government wanted to happen so she was rewarded for it. It’s that simple. The government pretending that she was some kind of rogue actor is hilarious.
@phillipdale6464
@phillipdale6464 11 ай бұрын
It’s clear that although current politicians have feigned shock and knowledge we now learn Fujitsu have been awarded a extended contract ! Explain the hypocrisy, they’ve been caught being duplicitous once again.
@j.4354
@j.4354 11 ай бұрын
Sorry to say buddy but Fujitsu is integrated into most of the high sectors of our country nothing will happen to it.
@1957bumpy
@1957bumpy 11 ай бұрын
And can you tell us the name of the minister who signed off on it ,well it was 1999 so I wonder what colours the government was ?
@petermcsheffrey3954
@petermcsheffrey3954 11 ай бұрын
@@1957bumpy1995/96 Blue if you had checked.
@michaelhughes1480
@michaelhughes1480 11 ай бұрын
No more public enquiries costing millions just a well investigated and delivered tv documentary seems to work no bent judges no money grabbing barristers No vested interests No gov No civil service No consultents No management cover ups No intimidation No lies And truth paramount.
@bigpants6121
@bigpants6121 11 ай бұрын
have you thought this through?
@scotland5370
@scotland5370 7 ай бұрын
No , I agree with him
@simoncoleman5408
@simoncoleman5408 11 ай бұрын
Forget the CBE - it's a hollow and meaningless award considering her reputation is rock bottom. What everyone should be asking now is - where are the police? After three years of the enquiry, no files have been handed to police, two Fujitsu workers have been questioned but not arrested...and nobody from the Post Office has even been questioned for perjury etc.
@le13579
@le13579 6 ай бұрын
Dont forget the board and the chief lawyer living it up in Sydney.
@bethmcintyre375
@bethmcintyre375 10 ай бұрын
Why can't the post office pay all the lawyers fees??
@John-et9yl
@John-et9yl 11 ай бұрын
It needs to be determined if senior executives of the PO committed a criminal act and, if so, they need to stand trial. The token gesture of returning one's CBE and submitting a lame apology will not do. Executives of any organisation need to understand that they cannot act in this manner.
@ronyagpd
@ronyagpd 7 ай бұрын
Forget "appeals" and more stress and time wasting for these poor people. Put them back on the position they would have been in if they were still working for the post office, includiing fully funded full pensions, mortgage free homes and fulsome apologies not only to the victims and their families : also full page apologies with photos to those whose lives they RUINED. Criminal proceedings against those executives both in Fujitsu and in the Post Office must result in LENGTHY PRISON SENTENCES.
@rjw4762
@rjw4762 11 ай бұрын
The issue of WHO appointed Vennells reminds me of the Gay woman who's resigned from Harvard Univeristy - it's all well and good for her to resign for her racist views - but the question should then turn to WHO appointed her. Same here. Our country sinks further each year.
@Manic.miner2077
@Manic.miner2077 11 ай бұрын
I feel so much for these victims, Honda, my previous employer ruined my life ten years ago. I suffer with chronic back pain, unable to work, I’ve lost my 4 bed house, my relationship, my life savings, any pension/retirement plans, it’s completely destroyed me. The company washed their hands of me when they decided to go back to Japan. At the age of 54, I never thought my life would end like this, I struggle every day to keep going, I just don’t see a point anymore.
@lesleysmith8300
@lesleysmith8300 6 ай бұрын
I think they should also add Manslaughter to that Police Investigation, as 4 people died as a result. Absolutely heart breaking.
@margaretmullen2446
@margaretmullen2446 11 ай бұрын
Give the post office workers the thousands they are owed, and stop debating on how much each person is allowed. Ministers and prime ministers cross parties who were in the know about the problems with this IT system should not be debating on the final figure, especially when they take decades to deal with the final figure. The innocent workers who have had their money stolen from them can not trust the ones dealing with how much they are owed. PAY THE POST OFFICE WORKERS THE MONEY WHICH THEY STOLE FROM THEM IMMEDIATELY. DO NOT PENNY PINCH. THEY ARE OWED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF POUND FOR THE HORRIFFIC WAY THEY HAVE BEEN TREATED BY THE PRIME MINISTERS THE MPS THE POST OFFICE THE IT COMPANY ETC ETC ETC. PAY THE INNOCENT WORKERS NOW
@matwilliams8012
@matwilliams8012 9 ай бұрын
The sad thing is, it’s still going on. The system is still making errors and Post Masters are still being chased.
@paulgrimes5814
@paulgrimes5814 11 ай бұрын
Paula vennells should be in jail
@lilianrose7247
@lilianrose7247 11 ай бұрын
Nothing will change until politicians are held accountable for bad decisions just like everyone else .
@fritzhenning1
@fritzhenning1 11 ай бұрын
But they are....it's called an election and it happens every 4/5 years. Trouble is even after 14 years of nonsense some will still vote for the 'bad decision' makers.
@1957bumpy
@1957bumpy 11 ай бұрын
And police officers too
@robertcook4705
@robertcook4705 10 ай бұрын
Scully part of the problem never the solution. Nick Wallis superb.
@DrumMachineKiller
@DrumMachineKiller 10 ай бұрын
Passing the buck is the only skill today's politicians possess.
11 ай бұрын
Disgraceful, they need to answer for what they have done, these people who ended up in trouble are the people we all relate to and this could happen again because if the type of people given these high profile jobs.
@philipmilner9638
@philipmilner9638 11 ай бұрын
How come no General post office workers were taken to court, just Sub Post Offices?
@jablot5054
@jablot5054 11 ай бұрын
Because there is no such thing as General Post Office in the UK.? The Royal Mail deliver the post and the Post Office is a post Office.
@kohsamuienglishclub6133
@kohsamuienglishclub6133 10 ай бұрын
Ministers to be held to account and jailed before its lost.
@PAVANZYL
@PAVANZYL 10 ай бұрын
It is the 98% of politicians that give the rest a bad name.
@thomasmorin749
@thomasmorin749 11 ай бұрын
Good pay day for the legal profession.
@alanfrancis9225
@alanfrancis9225 11 ай бұрын
It’s now been admitted by ministers that over 3,000 sub postmasters may have been wrongly accused in this saga. There was a pilot scheme of the Horizon computer system in 1995/6. This showed up irregularities and several postmasters were prosecuted. Regardless of this red flag the system was rolled out years later.
@katebuckfield7736
@katebuckfield7736 6 ай бұрын
They can get money to prosecute very quickly indeed ..but not compensate?
@peterbennett5910
@peterbennett5910 9 ай бұрын
Vennells must take full responsibility. She was paid millions to take responsibility and failed. She caused serious damage the thousands of people and must be charged for this. Assets must be seized on conviction.
@jeffschroeder4805
@jeffschroeder4805 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for publicizing this atrocious injustice. How is it possible that those actually responsible will walk away Scot-Free?
@alanmunch5779
@alanmunch5779 11 ай бұрын
Those in charge, who were highly paid, all now say they don’t know how this could have happened. Our legal system is also, sadly, shown to be inept, being driven by money rather than seeking after truth and justice. It’s a sad mess we are in as a country. I can only imagine how much covering of tracks is now going on. In my view, every lawyer too who maliciously harassed people they knew were innocent, should be made to pay back every penny of their fees and/or go to jail. But of course that won’t happen. Inevitably, in a few weeks the intense media attention will move on to something else.
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