Trail Vs Enduro Mountain Bikes | Is There Really A Difference?

[@gingerninja8586]

Not fair, should've used the same rider for both bikes.

[@bentyler5704]

I mean if they used the same rider he would’ve gotten 2 bikes and commenters would be jealous

[@gingerninja8586]

@@bentyler5704 True, that is a valid point!

[@AKandPetunia]

Agreed, enduro Blake probably should have done the whole thing himself and just used editing, I don’t even know who this TBB guy thinks he is...

[@dayaymiralles160]

Because maybe the other one is pro but other one is amateur

[@Ice_Daniyel]

yeah this is so not fair ppl

[@germanvillarreal2594]

The editors deserve a day off for this

[@johnybrokeit]

Deffffinitely! one of the best edits ive seen in a while! And blake is awesomely funny! Good job, blake!

[@HuFilms]

Ha ha, like a week solid to edit this. Plus overtime!

[@sam_smyth]

@@tobymills160 editors*

[@chrisfoster3772]

Everyone deserves a day off

[@chrisfoster3772]

@@tobymills160 lol , KZbin gives me the option to translate this to English, I think editor is the correct spelling

[@leanasf821]

I'm doing my homework but I guess this is more important.

[@IvanIvanov-ky8yx]

Dam this always happens to me

[@rorydean2662]

Im studying for exams i have tomorrow, oh well

[@bencordova2626]

Same bro 🤣

[@roderick9253]

Same

[@Ice_Daniyel]

no you dont guess its important, YOU KNOW ITS IMPORTANT!!!

[@nilkovski]

As an editor myself, this gives me headache.

[@armadillito]

I sit here trying to imagine the logistics of shoot day. 😅

[@diextremenachos8883]

Idk, it seems pretty straight forward

[@Someone-nt8wz]

Same lmao

[@Mikkeyboyy]

i agree to much!! rather have more info and better comparison than a headache

[@Neil_Mackie]

The camera work/tracking for the two downhill segments was really well done. The timing of joining behind Blake was particularly enjoyable. Also, the editing/staging to ensure no jarring dialogue when splicing the different Blakes together was so smooth

[@zarabarti7146]

Blake: "when I'm upset I used to tell to myself a joke I never heard before"

[@arthure-b9895]

I think this every video but massive respect to the editors, really good work

[@imin2461]

If u think that every video, then u should say that every video. The editors are really great

[@stephansondregger4668]

Blake - as at home in front of the camera as behind the bars (of a bike that is). Seriously - one of the best Mountain Bike content creators out there. Thanks GMBN and Blake for high quality entertainment and educational videos.

[@pidgie3397]

Yes, finally Commencal on GMBN!

[@corentinoger]

IMO : if you don't know which type to choose, you need a trail bike. The other types are specialist machines optimised for specific racing events (XC, Enduro, DH, Cyclo-cross...) so they're for people with a racing license, a race schedule pinned to their wall, following a year-long training regimen.

[@benjaminj.daniel6860]

but the meta tr or the clash is the real tough choice...

[@prajwalpingali]

@@benjaminj.daniel6860 not really, the clash is a park bike, really playful and wants to fly while the tr is your typical trail bike that's great for almost all types of terrain and much more pedally

[@RiggadonDan]

I have to say that larger riders may prefer the enduro oriented bikes, simply because they're stiffer and feel more stable. I had to exchange my Meta TR for the Meta AM because the TR felt too insubstantial under me. 6'2", 205lbs. Personally, anything less than an enduro bike feels flimsy under me. These new enduro bikes are so lightweight, such good climbers, and with the new geo on bikes now, the larger frame sizes really improve the comfort of bikes for tall/ heavy people.

[@magnumllama400]

@@RiggadonDan when did new geometries start? Which years so I get a used bike from then

[@rplanet_ua]

What is the difference between trail, enduro, freeride and downhill bikes? Or who are just the names of riding styles? I can not understand.

[@Vanadium]

crazy how Blake can ride stuff like that without anything to protect his eyes. I cant even ride in summer without that.

[@kiltymacbagpipe]

Or gloves. He probably doesn’t have the falling over problem I have though.

[@MehYam2112]

Just keep your eyes shut, no problem

[@snowfree52]

he has no one in front of him ;)

[@painteater19]

First thing that came to my mind when I saw the mud. Dude put on some clear lenses and protect those eyes!!!

[@Vanadium]

@@snowfree52 Dosen really matter, I ride with the mudhugger guard, that is way bigger then those Marshguard styled ones and still get crap all over my face

[@archiemorgan1194]

Blake’s too funny 😂

[@trailrider3625]

Lol

[@simonfreiberger9731]

Yesss😂🤦‍♂️👌🏼

[@steezeandstylish8456]

Which one?

[@chelarestelar]

@@steezeandstylish8456 the three?

[@steezeandstylish8456]

@@chelarestelar which one is the funniest 🧐

[@Tj-hw2ql]

I feel like trailbikes are basicly what enduro bikes used to be last year before 38 forks became a thing again😂

[@vomErsten]

More like before the Specialized Enduro made existing enduro bikes look like trail bikes. The 38 just compounds the issue.

[@Tj-hw2ql]

@@vomErsten o wouldn't say it's an issue

[@TheJofrica]

All the scales are shifting over time. A lot of XC bikes are now in trail range. Downhill bikes will soon be in Mariana Trench range, underwater lol

[@vomErsten]

@@bananasstuff3344 The issue is category confusion, not bikes getting better.

[@jojodroid31]

@@TheJofrica so next year gravel bikes will get suspension and look like XC? xD

[@drmoynihan]

Love my Meta TR 29 - it is a real climber, sails through the muddy root filled trails (fell over one yesterday, but pushed over the impossible thing the second time through), and scares the heck out of me as I fly downhill!!! What a blast!!!

[@technotaubsi]

how does it perform in the bikepark?

[@core-i7413]

@@technotaubsi Performs good, you could bring one to Whistler and shred the black diamonds.

[@oliviaswiss]

Genius editor and let's not forget how talented the camera operator is here - maybe the same person?. And how many reclimbs for retakes did our poor Blake-man. Bravo, stay in shape guys!!

[@benthedrummer100]

I bought my clash the first year it came out and I freaking love it. I think people get too obsessed with speed and components sometimes. Unless youre actually racing mountain biking should be about having fun not how fast you can complete your ride.

[@MarcinStarszewski]

Fully agree, I have 2020 Clash and it was the best decision I’ve ever made 🤟🏻

[@jonnyutah35]

Awaiting the delivery of the new 2021 clash signature and I'm hoping it will be than my 2018 Trek slash which was a beast.

[@ericmountainbiker]

I have a 2021 Clash and its the best bike I have every owned. I have been riding since 1991.

[@ericmountainbiker]

@@jonnyutah35 it will be.

[@advantagemarine7305]

@@MarcinStarszewski good to hear, I am picking up a 2021 Clash essential with the fox 38s and x2 shock this week after coming from an ns fuzz downhill bike with boxxer ultimates and a cane creek coil, didn´t want to lose the fun factor at the bike park but also needed one bike that could also hit some trails, not worried about doing marathon xc rides these days

is this the first time we see commencal bikes on the channel ?

[@frankiemazzei8882]

They had those kids bikes last year but apart from that I think this is!

[@ragged9242]

It’s about time. Highly underrated bikes

[@MrDhesse]

I personally have ever used one but they look great!

[@frankiemazzei8882]

@@MrDhesse apparently the seat stays rub on your ankles though😬

[@aidenmtb5784]

@@frankiemazzei8882 my friend has one it’s all on how you put your feet on your pedals he doesn’t rub but that’s no reason for you not to get one they are awesome.

[@DemonicVelocity]

I think the biggest difference is the confidence you gain with increased suspension travel and slacker geometry.

[@TFritz82]

Barelli said it himself that the Meta AM 29 is an out and out race bike for limited few folks vs. the TR which he recommended for the vast majority of people ripping their local trails and participating in races here and there. That Meta TR is both longer and slacker with a steeper seat tube than my size large Megatower. It has slightly less travel. That "trail" bike is an absolute weapon!

[@JuanPalomoM]

My brother has the TR, i have the AM… we’re still trying to find the difference. Pros will probably be able to feel the minute differences… as daily morning riders both of us… they’re both fantastic weapons to pack, no matter the ride choice.

[@Daniel-sy7mg]

Lets say thanks to the editors for this masterpiece

[@gpearce11]

Not surprised the times between these two bikes were so similar; after all that Trail bike has the most enduro geometry I've ever seen on a trail/all-mountain bike (there is less than 1° difference between the headtube and seat tube angles, whereas most trail bikes have a 65-67° headtube angle). Not to mention the Fox 36 was considered an enduro fork until the 38 came out this year.

[@benasquith26]

And only 5mm less in reach, the bikes are basically the same apart form the travel

[@RJPhotographics]

I don't think they really timed these ;)

[@francescodaniotti4238]

this is what i've been waiting for sooooo long! comparative test are the only ones i look forward to since many mtb brands started to make very similar frames (ehm santa i'm looking at you) with tiny differences so it's very confusing to find wich bike suits your riding! for me the tr looks perfect but also the clash is stunning and both can be used as freeride rigs... so hard to pick one!!! nowadays bikes looks and ride great

[@larsbrown4811]

I’m trying to pick between a trail or enduro bike. Most of my time has been on a hardtail XC bike, riding very technical uphills and downhills, no real drops or big jumps. These uphills don’t look very technical, but I gather if I’m doing a lot of uphills, I should lean towards a trail bike…?

[@justinmcnab5585]

That blue Meta is gorgeous!!!

[@coledeviney]

I like trail bikes cuz they kind of can do anything with relative ease

[@daniellidstone5300]

when blake was doing the downhill race did anyone think back to the narrow bars video and him almost dying

[@gmbn]

😂 Check it out here if you haven't seen it! gmbn.eu/NarrowBars

[@AZMTB]

I live in steep, rocky, gnary Phoenix AZ. I used to have a Hightower and a Ripley, but when I got the Megatower, I was instantly more comfortable and smashing my previous PR's. Haven't looked back since!

[@creepylavalamp]

The best video ever on this channel was Doddy dream bike build. These - bike vs bike - videos are a close 2nd. I LOVE these and will gladly watch every second of them. Please do one every week!!

[@determinedskeptic]

That Meta TR is slacker than most dedicated Enduro bikes were only 2-3 years ago! It's a downhill weapon

[@jeffwertz8108]

1. Impressive how much fun to watch you can make a commercial, which is basically what this was. A better title may have been "Which Commencal bike is best for you?" 2. Truly well done. Looked forward to this video all week, and it didn't disappoint, for entertainment anyway, with a little helpful info. 3. Doddy's comment about trail bikes....some of them leaning toward the XC geometry and some leaning toward the Enduro...was spot on. Surprised it wasn't mentioned that the Meta leans toward the Enduro, big time, with extremely different geometry than my '18 Trek Fuel EX (also a trail bike) which has a much steeper head angle. This is probably why the Enduro bike only beat the Trail bike by 3 seconds on the downhill. Interesting to me how much their Trail bike beat their Enduro bike on the 50 minute segment dubbed the "Trail" section. This leads me to #4 4. Trail bike is definitely the one for me, as it's the better all-rounder, and in my area, trail is about the best one can hope for as most trails are XC green trails, blue at best. Trail also works for when you go a little farther away to ride bigger stuff on occasion. 5. A more helpful and interesting video I'd like to see made is a comparison between a couple Enduro-leaning trail bikes and a couple XC-learning trail bikes from multiple popular brands/top contenders - including brick and mortar big brands like Specialized and Trek, and the top direct sales models. Then again, I would anticipate results would be about the same. The Enduro leaning trail bikes like this META would be best on big tech, chunk, downhill and big jumps, with their more relaxed geometry and beefier suspension, and XC oriented trail bikes would be faster on climbs and most 'trail' sections with moderate obstacles that reward peddling efficiency.

[@ClarkBark14]

Real question is, is the Enduro still faster downhill after fatigue sets in from carrying the heavier, less efficient bike over that last X amount of miles of trail.

[@iggalan]

It's a good question. Yesterday I spent all morning going up and then descending some technical trails (hard for me, I'm not an advanced raider). I have a trail bike that's 1 year old, so quite capable. Would an Enduro bike be better for me? Would it enable me to go down those trails with more confidence? Would it make much of a difference in the climbs?

[@leftaroundabout]

The mass isn't _that_ different between trail vs enduro. A modern enduro bike pedals just fine as long as you stay relaxed in the saddle - only when you try to stand up for a sprint does it go all spongey and inefficient. And that relaxed chugging upwards with large suspension can actually _help_ with some of the fatigue. Of course, when you literally mean _carrying_ the bike, then every extra gram is an extra nuisance indeed... but carrying a bike for _miles_ - seriously?

[@vomErsten]

@@iggalan It really depends on what bike you have vs. what enduro bike you are looking at jumping into because the spec and geo vary so wildly from bike to bike. It's also worth noting that "enduro" and "all mountain" get used interchangeably by almost everybody, but there is some nuance in there such that the latter is probably more relaxed and plush than the former. I personally wouldn't consider any 27.5-wheeled bike in 2020 to be an enduro, it's empirically faster to be on 29" at least in the front wheel. All-mountain, though, certainly.

[@ClarkBark14]

@@leftaroundabout I mean if you were on an Enduro say 160 travel bike, and kept a similar pace as you would on a 130 bike over miles of trail with a climbs peppered in, and then came to an Enduro style section of trail.

[@AMGplays_]

easy answer- get both, be happy.

[@leejervis1794]

I think the take out from this is that 99% of people don't need an enduro bike. Great video; keep up the good work guys.

[@chiccorocker]

The Commencal META is a great bike. I got the META TR just before winter and had a chance to use it a bit. I'm in love, it's a nice and fun bike for sure. Even the TR feels great going downhill, much better than you common trail bike. In fact it is defined as "mini enduro" and I think it makes perfect sense. Oh and for the folks at Commencal: I totally got this bike because of the overwhelming positive comments made on it on the GMBN tech show back when the bike was announced. So glad to see it on GMBN now.

[@gunny6517]

Don’t know how you managed all of the video magic, but it sure was enjoyable to watch.. Great channel!

[@gmbn]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@derbutz8368]

Another great video that should get a youtube-Oscar for greatest Camera, editing and creativity! The topics you bring sometimes are a bit repetitive, but still great informations served with a lot of passion and humour for days!!

[@gmbn]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@danytheunicorn95]

I pulled the trigger on the Meta SX, so basically an AM with a smaller wheel and a longer chainstay, both have the same wheelbase, best of both worlds and perfect for big jumps and steep trails, I couldnt be happier 😄😄😄🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@T_C2024]

Good bit of entertainment and why I subscribed.... I have previously fallen victim of buying more bike then I needed for my local trails.

[@spuddo123]

U guys should do one of these but enduro hardtail vs enduro fs

[@antoanangelov5672]

There is no such think as an enduro hardtail. Max fork travel on hardtails is 150mm IMO. They will always be in the trail bike category no matter how HARDCORE U MAKE THEM 😂

[@spuddo123]

@@antoanangelov5672 Don't kill their dreams, hardcore hardtails can be whatever they want to be 😂

[@RyanAlexanderBloom]

I just upgraded my stock 130/130 trail bike (low end coil fork) with a 150mm air fork. Still a trail bike, but now actually lighter, longer travel, and more adjustable. Win-win-win. I don’t need an enduro bike for any valid reason...

[@samb2334]

I saved up money from my 14th birthday in September and I’m getting a enduro bike for Christmas, gx 1x12, guide re brakes, rock shox lyric 170mm and a super deluxe air. Can’t wait

[@neildxb]

3 Blake’s, brilliantly put together & great to watch

[@LDrift]

Do they remake every episode when they get new bike sponsors?

[@rupedog]

Its a paid promo....so the payee can input on what they are paying for

[@brazilnuts5116]

Great video Blake, one hell of rider dude.... also, props go to who ever did the editing.... absolutely spot on..... well done

[@CaBdosdos]

It should be noted that it seems they filmed in the UK and many UK riders agreed enduros are too much for UK trails. If im wrong let me know.

[@mswob1845]

so much fun... love it! blake(s)... you are my hero(s)

[@georgemacdonald6805]

Just love the alter ego’s. Must be difficult and a blast to record and edit. Brilliant way to show the differences. Still none closer to helping me choose - trail vs enduro. Although at present it’s take what you get.

[@alexlamy1271]

Commencal Tr does everything i love my Tr ..

[@HeretiCflow]

When it comes to the Commencal bikes, I think the comparison lacks a bit, since the TR and AM are virtually identical in geometry and weight. That being said, I ride the new AM as my only bike and so far no complaints. 🤙

[@dairatars]

Was thinking exactly the same. If some other brand made TR, they would most likely advertise it as Enduro bike. But good to see Commencal on GMBN.

[@barrakingbeatz7794]

Im pretty sure the gel is slightly different unless I’m reading the geo chart wrong

[@dairatars]

@@barrakingbeatz7794 It is a bit different but just a bit.

[@HeretiCflow]

@@barrakingbeatz7794 miniscule. But the TR is not a trailbike. 🤣 It's a shorter travel Enduro rig.

[@Bristecom]

I wonder how much the time was affected by the slower rolling/heavier front Assegai on the Enduro. Tires make a big difference in speed.

[@adapta]

Wow! This video inspired me to go out on my trail bike. Unfortunately my shock is getting its annual service right now... too bad... Great video!

[@Jagokingkong]

So looking forward to my TR29...my Meta 55 2009 has had its day

[@nealjohnson8508]

Dialog and the blake on blake convos were super solid and amusing. great vid.

[@devincook3278]

I would love to see a behind the scenes on a video like this- where Blake plays 3 different people.

[@TheArfabrizio]

Triplets. Duh

[@RJPhotographics]

Details on the camera gear would be neat too.

[@cameronallan3771]

After this video I'm getting one of those clash bikes in 2021 coming from a downhill bike i still want to stay at the 27.5 but something able to take the big hits

[@dirtrider6198]

Other brands are available!

[@cameronallan3771]

@@dirtrider6198 I'm up for some suggestions mate

[@dirtrider6198]

@@cameronallan3771 Hi Cameron. I don't know much. But I've got a Canyon 2021 27.5 CF 9.0 and it's more fun than my 29er.

[@MarcinStarszewski]

Get Clash, you won’t be dissapointed 🤟🏻

[@bikeswithb8829]

That's it. I'm pulling the trigger on the Clash.

[@david-cyclingnrunningtime1808]

The TA looks like a science guy. Well, when it comes to cycling, he is indeed. Top man really. This video deserves an award! Cheers mate. Stay safe. LIKE

[@tobiasscholl8692]

Really nice .... blake vs blake is simply classic

[@benjaminpuzzo7194]

This editing is next level

[@steezeandstylish8456]

Clash Blake's just don't care of which one is better, cause he just SHRED IT !!

[@BowzKnows]

I've had the Clash since the summer and I love it!

[@kbd13-n9c]

I can't decide what I should get. These are the exact bikes I've been looking at too! Been leaning towards the AM 29 because it has the ability to "handle it all" and 29 is coming back strong, but then I've looked at the Clash and the TR 29 as well.

[@ThatWhisper]

What did you choose?

[@dariushmollaei693]

What did you get ?

[@darcystrange7590]

Just purchased a clash, CANT WAIT!!

[@JP-ot5km]

the reason why the feather in front can usually be turned on and off via handlebar is to switch it off when you are kicking on flat ground to reduce energy wastage :D

[@patrickt9516]

I got a 2019 clash, love it! altho the climbing with it hurts sometimes xd

[@ericmountainbiker]

I have the Clash that was shown here and I can tell you it is the goods. It will do everything. RIPPER!

[@hindesite]

Not just kudos to the editors, but more to the pre production, scripting and direction. Planning all this would do my head in.

[@mcspiffington]

Ive recently had a very similar 'issue' when choosing my newest steed. for the type of riding i do i just had to go enduro. its not much but the extra confidence on the heavier descents made up the decision for me. might be a tougher ride on the uphill but meh, makes my legs stronger.

[@pontiacg445]

100% I ride a fat heavy enduro and I outclimb and outlast all my buddies on trail bikes and I'm not really ever worried about being underbiked on the way down. I can't imagine getting on a legit trail bike, I'd be able to climb a tree with it.

[@rowancall2879]

I really appreciate that clash Blake was out riding by himself. Enduro and trail blake were not social distancing

[@petite_beat83]

Commencal bikes are really nice but they obviously lie about their bikes weight on their website. I have a meta AM 29 2019, which was announed at 14,9kg ( without pedals ) but in reality mine is 16,2kg with pedals, and moreover I changed the NX cassette for a GX one to get 200gr less... Their new meta with Fox 38 or Zeb must be heavy as fuck. I admire how strong can be people doing a 40km enduro race with 1500 D+ with these bikes.

[@WiewiorPLater1]

So, how fast was Clash Blake?

[@MarcinStarszewski]

Clash ain’t really about speed, it is a fun bike to ride I can assure you about that 😉

[@michaelbulcock6004]

@@MarcinStarszewski you're abosloutly right. I love my clash. Couldn't be happier with the bike, it really does it all.

[@asiluawksadvnase8238]

Amazing photography, serious props to whoever was behind the camera on this one. Thanks for the video.

[@CutzMadriZ]

Love Commencal Bikes, for far the best bike I ever ride. Commencal Meta + Blake= AWESOME VIDEO That Clash... a ROCKET!!!

[@vincentdufour9487]

Very nice concept, funny video ! The chosen trail bike is more on the enduro side. I wonder what would have been the time difference with a smaller trail bike (ex: fox 34, float DPS).

[@wesellis4135]

The meta am 29 has been on my radar for the last 6 months. I want one so bad.

[@astramorikes224]

massive respect to the editors

[@Mrestebanito]

This is not the right comparison between a trail and an enduro bike. The TR model has a pure enduro geometry which is very similar to the AM model. The TR name is misleading, they have basically created an enduro bike with less suspension than the AM. It would have been more interesting to explain in the video how the bikes ride instead just counting the time - it is obvious that a bike with more travel goes faster downhill and that a bike with less travel goes faster uphill. Nothing informative on this video sorry

[@RoScFan]

Your comment was informative to me. Thank you.

[@evanwilson9906]

Truth..

[@kyletriesfitness500]

That clash is so nice! Almost sad that I got the Meta AM 29, but its too good to regret.

[@Roadblock1396]

One of the most enjoyable video's I have ever watched on KZbin. Thanks. Awesome riding man. Keep it up.

[@69indigoblue]

I love these Split-Screen series...and Blake is so likeable and does a real good job presenting these...very entertaining...thanks for that...! 2 thoughts about the video. 1. would love to see both bikes not only on a fireroad climb but on more tecky, chunky stuff...same on the trail loop 2. Best of both worlds was and will ever be the AM bike at around 150mm in the front and 140/135mm in the back....

[@cat_glove]

The timing on this video is amazing, well done.

[@Jdem9]

More bikes like the clash please, so dope.

[@mattrb007]

Love how the both of them cover their brakes on the climb

[@maxlaguda4232]

I cant believe how much trail Blake looks like enduro Blake, WOW!

[@carlstanton2550]

Personally I think they have the same father... Rumour has it he got about a bit. There's a dh Blake out there that looks like he could be related too...

[@youngstadan4999]

There is a lot you can do to make the enduro bike a lot more efficient for flat rides, thinner faster trail tyres Chang the geo chips up if you can. More psi in everything. It's not so black and white

[@arlorius9631]

Wow ! The 3 blackes seems like a lot of hard work to get it working in editing ! Awesome video !

[@chelarestelar]

I always see all of ya riding such beautiful trails and cry inside, because the most similar thing here is a kind of pump track but it's 1'5min at max. Almost everything I can do is XC, and I believe I'd enjoy enduro more

[@AndreasRavnestad]

Congratulations on new sponsors! Great to see you guys equipped with Commencal and Maxxis, and really hoping that we will be seeing more of that Clash beast :)

[@wap3409]

Like how they added in the strange baby that came from the trail, enduro and downhill bike

[@RoZakingen]

What a master on making content Blake Samson!

[@Yes_this_is_my_cat]

This video must have been an incredible project to make. It's really enjoyable

[@mrandroid3552]

What size were these bikes please, and how tall are you Blake(s)? Great comparison and great video!

[@Kidkoa619]

Commencal meta I my favorite bike ! I’m Glad gmbn got to ride them in this video. I have the 2020 model in red.

[@wplno1]

Sure Blake could be an actor if he wanted to, so funny on screen.😂👍

[@Devast8r34]

I love my Meta TR29!

[@johnbuntin7188]

So on the flat up hill neither rider locked out suspension for a timed event? That trail bike is pretty trick for what it is suppose to be. At least in my opinion.

[@duythai5442]

Editing masterpiece. Enjoyed it!

[@jamesvonvacheresse7888]

Couldn't have got better "test results", if commencal wrote the segment themselves for a commercial 😉 lol.

[@abassi1173]

The ultimate category is All mountain I think; 150mm travel rear 150-160mm travel front.