GMOD: Revisiting Room Inc.

[@NTNoble]

This guy is the only guy I’ve seen who can elaborately describe his perception of what makes something scary while also being chased with freaky music playing in the background

[@davoid96]

Agreed

[@famtomerc]

ikr? he plays horror games more like he's a crocodile hunter/nature documentary guy "and now if you look to your left you'll see the scary monster and the chase music will start", and i love it

[@mr.beeves5912]

Hey Librarian! I want to take the opportunity to say: don't sweat it. Though you appear to feel some sort of obligation to us, your viewers, I (at least personally) feel that you don't owe ME anything. Your videos are always so marvellously done, injected with such personality that they are a real pleasure to watch. Mistakes can and will occur; I don't think people were right to be so short-tempered about it. Thank you very much for this fantastic content, so unique and almost intimate - it feels a little like each video is handcrafted. Not just anyone could do that. What a great find your channel was.

[@swooshpack]

the no music really makes it feel like it’s 1 on 1 or your in a call together

[@Lazy_ness]

Nice pfp

[@seifoswaglel5823]

While the map really is flawed, I respect you for listening to feedback and giving it another shot. Props!

[@jehriko7525]

same here

[@ash506]

The silhouette creature looks like the stick figure from the "they're groovin'" meme.

[@silkenemperor]

You should do the backrooms horror map, it has levels 0-6 and a reference to another liminal space you've seen.

[@TheLibrarianYT]

There's a lot with that title, which one is it specifically? I'd love to try it.

[@lucio7413]

@@TheLibrarianYT do you know if this map is coop?

[@silkenemperor]

Funnily enough it literally is called the backrooms horror map.

[@FinlayHamm]

@@TheLibrarianYT I think it would be cool to see a video just on multiple smaller maps

[@silkenemperor]

KZbin is deleting the link. It's call the backrooms [horror map]

[@supergabriel2782]

the death scream makes me think of the "OoOh MY GAUWD" guy and its great

[@malikarsyasakani]

Joseph Joestar

[@nathanthecanadian9444]

7:06 I think the "YeLOW PEPLe RUN AWAy" is a reference to a group of entities known as "The Partygoers", which is found in the backrooms wikidot site.

[@Dogman_35]

Tbh that whole site is like the epitome of great taste, but awful execution.

[@mrko3960]

i think its just bobby commenting on humans. because i don't think a human would write "boby want eat" when they are stuck in a maze

[@RedtheRadical]

Betcha anything the yellow people are the hazmat MEG.

[@josephi9219]

I truly feel like I’ve discovered a hidden gem, I first watched the exploring gmod liminal spaces video a while ago, and ever since then I’ve been finding myself frequently falling asleep to the Librarians videos. They provide me with a strange sense of comfort and relaxation. I say it’s a hidden gem because while not having as many subscribers as some other KZbinrs, he still creates amazing content. the content shows his dedication and effort to viewers/subs which you can’t always get from the “popular” KZbinrs and I find myself watching his videos more than any others. After a long stressful day, I decide to watch one of his new playthroughs of gmod eerie maps or indie games, it’s the perfect way to unwind. I’m writing this to show my appreciation and thankfulness for him and his content.

[@obnoxiouslime6922]

8:46 ok that was terrifying

[@nororo111]

Yo libraian you're the first person that describes the place you are in/What is happening on the screen very calmly. You just earned a sub keep up with the gmod work!

[@overratedprogrammer]

This upper level and your commentary was so intriguing, pretty much the whole bottom level is just a mobile game of running away and collecting coins basically

[@MyFoot]

mad respect for you to go back and try this again. I dont think that your concerns are unfounded from the first one, or now. The commands listed on the workshop page are incorrect, and some people would just copy and paste without realizing its the command, not the map. Its an interesting concept and credit to the creator, this is the first time ive seen something like this done. Source map making is hard, then you add in custom entities? that's even harder. You ought to try out the game scanner sombre. seems like its up your alley and has a vr mode thats pretty good.

[@StalwartTirith]

This update was definitely a huge improvement. So a million points to the dev for taking feedback into account and making changes. Now, I still have mixed feelings about the monster. I feel like asking the player to fiddle around with the console to get the monster to work severely undercuts the impact of the monster. Here he had to play around with the console with the monster walking in place in front of him. You shouldn't have to mess around with AI commands just to play. On a much more subjective note, I just straight up don't like the monster. The repetitive music is a bit grating, and so is the loud noise when it catches you. Along with that, I personally feel like including monsters and that sort of thing really misses the point of the backrooms and liminal space. The fear is the uncertainty of being in a familiar, but uncanny environment with seemingly no beginning or end. The big fear with the backrooms is that it's almost like a cosmic horror; through no fault of your own and due to circumstances totally out of your control you end up in this twisted reality, and that's it. There's no escape, no hope for rescue or survival, and all you have to look forward to is dying of thirst in an endless, repetitive void. You didn't fall victim to some malevolent entity seeking your destruction; you just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Adding a monster just turns the backrooms and liminal space in general into your typical horror movie.

[@ncasuallymakesopinions5735]

List of maps recommended to explore in VR (Im sorry if this just makes you feel like your milking vr content..) (Updated list): The Generators (Adventure + Horror map) gm_mallparking (Liminal Based) Rp_SouthSide (Cozy places and Enterable buildings) RP_UnionCity (Cool and Great) gm_boreas (Amazing) zs_deviations (Atmospheric) gm_russia (Liminal Based, alot of details) (Silkem Emperor already recommended the backrooms map) This list will keep updating untill The Librarian chooses atleast one of these to explore. (Or I run out of good maps for him to explore)

[@ncasuallymakesopinions5735]

Now that I think about it, that is quite literally forcing content and milking

[@stephenwilliams9887]

Hey man, your criticism wasn't unfair! It's a map that a lot of other people have the same problems with. The maps creator needs to do some work to make it so that people don't have the opportunity to input wrong options that make it unplayable. You did and said nothing wrong homie! Keep up the great videos!

[@Evoxyre]

For the flashlight in VR , sometimes it bugs right? And sometimes you switch to a gun but you can't have light with the gun Well actually I wanted to propose the cry of fear weapon pack as there is a gun with a light attached to it , maybe it would work , and as for immersion , it's good as well since the lamp should be coming from the gun ^^

[@mordecaijackson461]

Do you post this on every video? I swear this isn't the first time I've seen this comment.

[@onlywithbuts1781]

I am not really sure how to take this one but it was not scary before and even after the AI is enabled it remains just plain. It seemed promising at first but when you show the threat and its right in your face all the time, it completely loses the potential of scare. Also i am surprised nobody mentions how obnoxious the loud screaming is each time you get caught by the shadowy figure. But hey! More Librarian content, that i cannot complain about x )

[@kingsnakke6888]

This is why maps like Gm_shambles work and are personally the best; no need for jumpscares or complicated AI when you have atmosphere and environmental storytelling to create the horror

[@Immolator772]

the survival thing doesn't make much sense either, and the scream is actually pretty funny. Black Snow much better made than this.

[@davoid96]

5:57 *Smooth Criminal plays*

[@Bkuuzin]

Glad you gave it another shot, seems like a decent map.

[@sindreberntsen]

i love your content man, right down my alley

[@tankz7454]

I recommend you take a look at a map called City Ruins (if you haven't already) While I don't think it has any intentional scares, the atmosphere the surface and the underground has is pretty damn immersive, and detailed and extensive enough to the point I've got gotten lost in it myself. It's a bit on the older side but I still think it holds up.

[@forecastlotus3899]

Came up with a way to give people an uneasy feeling. Set up a camera a good bit away from you and use the vj base campfire with "It's just a burning memory" playing and place down a ragdoll, or just sit in a chair yourself, and have some strange yet hard to notice sounds, quiet screaming, weird groans, some other things and post that somewhere

[@KH-8861]

Although flawed,Room inc mixes loads of certain genres that gives it that Liminal/Backrooms feel,Although being both the things I Said.

[@paytonsage8530]

What’s scarier the shadow or the copyrighted door, they both had the same reaction

[@Katana2097]

Love the way he just struts around like a boss.

[@yoota933]

This man is getting out quality content like no other, much respect

[@Vee_Sheep]

the shadow man crawling on the ceiling in the darkness was absolutely horrifying lmao

[@rocketpack1749]

5:59 “And I would walk five hundred miles, and I would walk five hundred more”

[@flamingdog9207]

8:46 WOOOO! Yeah baby, that's what I've been waitin' for! That's what it's all about!

[@RizGBlue]

Hey, you can use the 'stopsound' command to stop all current audio, including music, from playing. As soon as new audio kicks in, it'll play like usual.

[@charater08]

I can only imagine playing this in VR, it would be like your in the actual backrooms.

[@feywinmill8288]

I would just like to say: this video inspired me to start working on a video game

[@adrianofigueroa3634]

The thing crawling in the ceiling scared the shot out of me

[@belialthegrand]

*turns right* ABUHBUHBUH *dies* Later *turns left* ABUHBAH

[@ghostpuppet6948]

Bro I love your content! Keep it up! I'm the only one in my family who loves gmod lol

[@madbruv]

Yup thanks for trying to give it a fair shot. :)

[@minedude33]

The lights-on shadow is more comedic, while the lights-off shadow is pure horror

[@shadowyyCFH]

Nice to hear the copyright door is playing only you *cull the herd*

[@DrHammerr]

It's weird that this mod requires you to input your own console commands. I am pretty sure hammer has a point_servercommand entity or something that lets you do that via map triggers. They work the same as entering commands into the console. I used them before, to unbind the player's flashlight, change weapon damage values, and disconnect the map (sending them back to the main menu) at the end of a level. This creator seems pretty dang competent, more so than me at least, so I wonder why they didn't do this? The world may never know.

[@MontyTheMothman]

This map is just substandard. I get what they were going for but… the overall execution is lackluster. I will say the main thing I disagree on is the copyright thing. I don’t think it’s a map creators fault when copyrighted music is used. Not like every map creator expects their map to be played. Either way, nice video librarian :D

[@shotgun3628]

That walking dude reminds me of that one tally hall music video

[@NamelessVex]

11:47 THE SAFETY CORNER- Oh..

[@hazzmati]

Librerian can you play The Office Prank? It's a workshop creation for Portal 2 which takes place in the Aparture facility. I think it would fit really well in the scope of the channel.

[@forecastlotus3899]

I know a guy who actually played that if you want to know

[@SkollTheWerewolf]

Respect for revisiting the map, but your criticism in the last video is not entire invalid. You entered the wrong commands, because even the commands on the workshop page were wrong. You had to enter a command in the console contrary to the creator himself stated on the workshop page, which I would say is valid criticism.

[@NotOnLand]

I think you'd like the game The Long Drive, it's meant to be humorous but it definitely has that liminality vibe. There are even a couple of genuine scares too

[@alexturner2776]

10:52 Hank Hill scream lmao

[@Tommy-fv6xy]

Love your content

[@jennzee7297]

This is going to sound absurd, but ROBLOX of all games has a couple of liminal games that are the freakiest ones ive played. PLEASE give "Identity fraud" (roblox game) a chance. It's a bit boring, as it's all hallways, but there's a TON of organic scares in the game. I love it, and I hope you will, as well.

[@jennzee7297]

It has original moody, atmospheric music, but it isn't copyrighted. you'll enjoy it.

[@imnolongerasking5933]

Run first, trust later

[@HumanPerson_final]

I don't think it's unfair to criticize a map or any sort of mod that requires a player to input specific commands while the instructions are incorrect or just unclear. We criticize games all the time for bugs and this is essentially a bug. I still think the hunger and thirst mechanic is flawed or even just irrelevant since the values are reset to max when you die, and you die in one hit just like nearly every other horror game and the monster is very easy to run into. It goes from looking like a good reproduction of the original (I think) backrooms creepypasta of a large maze to feeling like a cramped and unfun run and hide/collect pages deal. Kind of disappointing. If someone were to make a true labyrinthian backrooms where the spooks are subtle and the monsters are rare, and if they can get the atmosphere right, I think that would be amazing. Probably not possible with gmod.

[@DWHTMH]

I have six addons and one of them is the Lego death effect. So if I die it would play that death effect making it less scary.

[@Jvpko.]

Very good video! Did you start using the stopsound command to avoid le copyright music?

[@d_ruggs]

first time i played this i went in blind in vr. i havent been that scared in a long time.

[@jehriko7525]

this is the earliest I've been to a librarian video woooo hoping for better results with this map cause I had the same feelings of excitement and disappointment you did

[@Fxrrxt2x]

Copyright music. The ultimate way to scare The Librarian 🤣

[@pjberri6348]

Honey new librarian came out.

[@sektaxd]

good one

[@mlodyszczuhr]

6:00 they even added michael jackson

[@The_Actual_GOD_god]

Love the vids stay awesome 😎

[@imnolongerasking5933]

WOOOOOO YEAH BABY!!

[@lilacocto9103]

What's scarier? The Shadow man or the KZbin terms of service?

[@rampageblizzard]

No contest there

[@rainetolentino4336]

The previous days you played this map kinda reminds me of Liminal Spaces somehow, you really need to work hard for this map to survive, but some horror Maps had a different method of doing it, really good video man. Also i never tell this to you before that when I played this map before I remove my Gmod, you need to type ai_disable 1 in order to make the creature works properly

[@arnashe8538]

I wonder if theres an app or program to auto distort copyrighted music during recordings. Must be annoying having to mute it all the time.

[@antonmuffin6214]

you might be able to use the command stop sounds, to stop the music from playing, it will only stop sounds curently playing but at soon as others start they will play like normal, but if theres other sounds you want to play that are curently paying they will stop untill the game starts playing them again for some reason

[@pyrra581]

hey Librarian, what console command was it that made the ai work? and do you know if npcs can be killed by the monsters, i feel like if i went into this with a squad like we were sent there to investigate what happened to a missing person it could be quite fun. Good video as always mate.

[@KING-FMJ]

10:46 i turn the corner to see my drunk father

[@AnnoyingDumb2300]

6:00 that is a npc, it's the reskinned metro police with a stun stick

[@silveroland]

The reason the ai_disable 0 and ai_ignoreplayers 0 doesn't have a confirmation in the chatbox is because they are already set to 0. Commands only show up there if there is a change, which there wasn't. *******Just to say for next time if it comes up, a much easier and quicker way to check if the ai is enabled properly is to just open the spawn menu with Q and look at the top left, it will have the tick boxes to enable/disable ai, and the other ai features. Much easier than messing around with the console.

[@spencthehalflifefanidk3456]

lets goooooooooooooooo

[@LynnetteJJW]

I still give this map a 6/10. Its unique in everyway. It has a good amount of small twists. And it fills that current psychological horror trope. But, it just falls flat. Making the spaces tighter, run some ambient music, maybe some bazaar occurrence. Or the like, could help keep things fresh.

[@crad5476]

Ambient music, tight spaces and stuff are things not everyone likes in a horror map/game. Often I find the silence and large spaces more terrifying.

[@xyn000]

Hey when you leave the elevator immediately on the left there is a gnome behind the chair maybe you can take him somewhere?

[@The_Actual_GOD_god]

Love the vids stay awesome 😎 🥰

[@spencer183]

11:59 😂😂😂

[@mat1cgaming949]

Hello Librarian.I would like if u explored the map GM_Pantheon i love ur channel btw keep it up my man and u can explore the map either in VR or without.....Edit: oh and not to forget the map has secrets...............

[@prime5976]

man pantheon has nothing interesting in it its just a sandbox map

[@madkirk7431]

Could you revisit gm_construct 13 beta?

[@pedjayt03]

lol i randomly found your channel and videos,u got sub from me :)

[@melomonster1157]

So we room again

[@harrywells400]

Finally a gmod backrooms, now I can bring a RPG with me

[@Riccardo_Mori]

The map has improved a bit compared to how it was in your previous video, but I still agree with your criticisms. My impression is that the creator had ambitious goals, but 'lost stamina' while developing the map. The result is unbalanced. On the one hand, the map has a backstory you are invited to investigate by reading the various terminals. On the other, you can't really investigate and gather more information because you're soon put in a position to be too preoccupied with your survival. Then, the survival aspect is in turn unbalanced, because you're both tasked with constantly find food and water, and running from 'Bob(b)y'. The maze of office rooms is too small, so your encounters with 'Bob(b)y' become comically frequent. And at the same time the maze is big enough that you can't exactly remember where the vending machine and the water cooler are located. I think things could be better balanced if the maze was much bigger, so that you still have to look out for the entity while searching for food and water, but your encounters would be more sparse, so that you can focus on reading terminals and finding provisions for a bit, then a chase segment would follow in order to make you lose track of your surroundings, and then back to exploring and looking for an exit. In the current state, the map starts fine and intriguing, but soon deteriorates into a chase-fest that makes you forget the great premise and the whole Rooms, Inc. lore. Just my $0.02, of course. Cheers, and thank you for your consistently interesting insights. -Rick

[@thedukeofweasels6870]

But I thought the creepy part about the back rooms was that you're not hungry or thirsty or tired you just exist it's like a purgatory you can't even escape through death

[@miguelthekewlkid272]

Nah if im right people can die in the backrooms just like how normal people can die in the real world.

[@earthcastle]

you should play gm_russia its limnal and spooky, but nothing spooky happens

[@MrGermandeutsch]

Wonderful

[@FalkyRocket2222]

cant you just go into the context menu(hold C) and go into "NPCs" on the top left corner and click the "Disable Thinking"

[@someguy9422]

Do luminal spaces exist in real life?

[@malawisupasoldier7478]

If she tells you she wants a tall, dark and "handsome" man, send her here

[@EGRJ]

He just wants to ask you about those, uh...TPS reports.

[@physical_insanity]

I'm surprised it took you this long to actually figure out how to properly enable the AI. The 0 mode of any console command is usually the off switch, whereas 1 is the activation integer. Basically binary code.

[@festering]

Depends on how he plays Gmod, really.

[@rampageblizzard]

He was just following instructions left by the map creator…

[@rampageblizzard]

@@festering or any source game for that matter. But he was just following instructions left by the map creator.

[@sorrisodomedo]

maybe this map should be cool in VR?

[@arwenrei]

I'm pretty sure they need to add a sandbox mode.

[@bryceowen]

Just happen to do things the right way to glitch your way out of reality? Literally, the sign next to the elevator (which you failed to read again) says employees are not to use the elevators.

[@MeyerProductions]

we scare cause we care

[@Christian_Cage]

The librarian says OWO 10:52

[@jonathanmibord8034]

hey guys can somebody help me ? Is it possible to play it multiplayer ?

[@computr166]

juke, epic juke!

[@ciceroissad4821]

I just hate the addition of monsters in the backrooms in general.

[@Shlappz]

That’s the hard part. No monsters > you feel creeped out but not actively scared because you know nothing will hurt you. Add monsters > your focus is pulled away from the Backrooms itself and towards whatever half-baked shadow demon the creator could whip up in half an hour. IMO the fix is to keep players in the dark for as long as possible. Make it a slow burn. Don’t tell them anything, and only show subtle hints of things to come. Then it doesn’t really matter if there are or aren’t monsters. Your imagination will do the heavy lifting.

[@DarrielOni]

7:09 Yellow is a color. Hope this helped.

[@lovaszaron3138]

I rather had no monster and just have this uneasy thing.

[@GrenadeCeption]

oh god oh fuck, its the copyrighted music door!

[@OSAKERGAMING]

bro i never found the monster

[@victoriaevelyn3953]

what is this it just looks like poor mans slendermans

[@ToniR96]

gg

[@slug898]

This is basically the backrooms

[@joe8405]

hey, have you played SOMA? I know it doesnt really relate to the vid, but I think you’ll like it, its a sci fi horror game.