GMOD VR: Exploring 3 Liminal Space Maps

[@physical_insanity]

If I had to point to a reason why the Adventurer's Club feels so much like a liminal space, it's probably due to the excessive amount of detail in each room coupled with the vast amount of space. Your eyes are always occupied which makes it feel like it's moving (something normally achieved with the lines transitional spaces use) but it's all static and immobile, making it feel off.

[@plaguewalker2248]

That and adventurers club was a real place in disneyland or world. Can't quite remember back in the 90's . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventurers_Club

[@lordpotoo1375]

I know that pfp

[@plaguewalker2248]

@@lordpotoo1375 Mine?

[@lordpotoo1375]

@@plaguewalker2248 No

[@Owen_013]

You?! I've seen you on Outer Wilds OST videos!

[@PaperThinArmor]

12:06 that room was originally designed for Disney staff to puppeteer the Colonel’s arms which hence why it opens up to him.

[@BP-fn7du]

2 maps I know well, that are liminal. 1st. Gm_mallparking. It has this lonely feeling, a bit of the after hours aesthetic. And kind of a comfy feeling, but lonely aswell. I love this map. 2: Gm_oldspace. Its a liminal map, like gm_liminal but with SCARES!!!!

[@MoreCheezePlease]

Yes! Please do gm_mallparking, it feels like visiting a mall that was recently emptied to close, but isn't fully abandoned yet. There are a lot of parking and shipping/receiving areas, but you can get just far enough into mall spaces and offices meant for people to really get that liminal "where are the people?" feel. That, and the many missing cars, minus the few seemingly out of place ones...

[@genericwhitekidthesecond4330]

32:08 I like that you can visibly see him going "the fuck?" without any words through him backing up

[@course2589]

The planetarium room is a reference to myst (a puzzle-adventure game) that had a similar room, it is a very dream like game with a great atmosphere.

[@haloreach4093]

@@aphyxia Myst is one of my favorite puzzle games by Cyan Studio

[@angledcoathanger]

I think it even had the same music, or very similar at least

[@NoOne-qn2hv]

@@aphyxia They also just released a VR version too

[@NathanDavisVideos]

Yeah I knew EXACTLY what that was! Even before you mentioned it. It too also had a bit of an liminal space kinda feel to it as well (even before the term "liminal space" was coined.)

[@digitaltrekkie]

Man, I had such strong flashbacks as soon as he stepped in

[@scottmemelord6130]

25:40 Yeah I commented on an earlier video, Garry's mod doesn't have an oxygen system, unlike Half-Life 2. But there ARE mods to restore it. Without those you can stay underwater as long as you want and nothing will happen.

[@phost2]

14:45 I had a really big smile on my face here. It's the observatory from Myst

[@bobertthegreat3432]

The weird room with a red chair and a bunch of lights on the ceiling is a reference to myst

[@NorthOfEarthAlex]

The "planetarium" from the Adventurer's Club map is a reference to Myst.

[@mordyndadresco2392]

That's what I thought I'm glad someone else remembers myst.

[@NathanDavisVideos]

I used to play Myst back then. It did kinda had a creepy liminal space-vibe to it as well as comfy in parts as well.

[@TreWilder]

24:17 Another thing barricades do very well when they're in the middle of a corridor? Asking you the question: Which side was it intended to keep safe, and are you on the right side of it.

[@NeverNotNinja]

It's weird how many no-longer-existing or inaccessible places are now best preserved through Gmod. My personal favourite is ttt_waterworld - a recreation of Leith Waterworld, a leisure pool in Edinburgh, Scotland that I used to go to with my family but got shut down in the early 2010s, with the map even being mentioned on the pool's Wikipedia page. Doesn't hurt that it's a fun map for TTT as well.

[@Bordie3D]

The Adventurers Club holds a special place in my heart. I don't talk to him regularly but I know the creator personally. Well not personally, I just have him friended on steam. He's actually the person, with this map, who inspired me to be who I am today; a 3D artist.

[@DoktorBeta]

14:45 is the planetarium from Myst! great game with liminal vibes

[@YupCambodove]

I am 100% certain that as a little kid I had at least 3 different dreams based inside of that first map you played, it always had a horror/murder mystery type vibe even though I was the only one inside of the building. I never really explored outside rooms, purely that central one and it was more of a point and click adventure game type beat than walking place to place. I say that specifically because I also remember parts of it being on that railing section that seem to be a floor higher. Wacky stuff.

[@kitrod]

It was a real place at one point at Disney World

[@YupCambodove]

@@kitrod I know, but the dreams were specifically in the gmod map, at least I remember everything definitely feeling more like a source game.

[@jasonlescalleet5611]

I will have to try that Adventurers Club one. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I agree about reviving defunct attractions via VR. I would love to see a good reconstruction of Horizons, or the original Journey into Imagination. As for GMod maps that actually exist, I am going to continue to promote Xanthys. I feel it would be right up your alley.

[@TheScubaJeremy]

Chris Wallace created a 3D VR video recreation of Horizons on KZbin. I've never experienced the real attraction, but this experience is pretty good - similar fidelity to the Adventurer's Club for Garry's Mod. And since it's a ride on rails, I don't mind that it's only 3DOF. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oImnmKCgpqaHj7s

[@thegoathead7538]

The Adventurer’s Club is a place I wish I was able to go to at an old age. Just to be there and soak in the good times with friends, it just feels right. I can see myself dancing with a lover to Artie Shaw’s Stardust (the music that plays in the library) and just melting away. All the self-inflicted pain gone in an instant to make way for what life truly is about. gm_adventurers is something else man. I really need to set up AirLink.

[@KiegKillsReality]

Dear god I absolutely love this first map. The music, visuals, and straight attention to detail is absolutely amazing!!

[@kitrod]

Probably because it's a recreation of a real place!

[@Bordie3D]

I know right!! It really spoke to me when I first found it in 2016. I still talk to the creator and him and this map are why I'm a 3D artist today!

[@sudarnotaufiq7059]

hi 2fort guy

[@GeekyGami]

That planetarium is a nod to the planetarium in the game Myst A VR version of it released on PC a few months back, I think you'd really like it

[@haloreach4093]

15:05 that is a reference to the game called Myst. That chair you would sit in and a small screen with a date and time controls would slide in front of your face allowing you to set it to certain dates and times to gaze at certain constellations to give you clues to help solve a certain puzzle. If you get the chance you should play Real Myst Masterpiece Edition. Which is a beautiful recreation of the original Myst. I do believe it's on Steam.

[@ryanfink5888]

"We shouldn't be mad at Chef for leaving us, we should be mad at that fruity little club for scrambling his brains"

[@AutumnWind92]

Someone should recreate Kowloon walled city.

[@jantona]

15:05 oh my gosh the Myst planetarium! that's such a cool reference :)

[@alyxg2764]

Adventurers club is a recreation of a closed down location in downtown Disney actually! It’s cool someone recreated it so faithfully since it was a very special location to a lot of people.Defunctland talked about it quite a bit in his videos on downtown Disney and disneys pleasure island if you guys feel like pursuing it further

[@Dogman_35]

6:07 That's Stardust. Recognizing it made me feel immediate dread

[@leomb471]

YEAAAA

[@zeroqz]

lets gooo 3 map video i love adventurers and your content man keep up the work

[@HumanPerson_final]

Every time I try to play a gmod map that is supposed to be a horror map or a liminal space, I end up leaving dissatisfied because they almost always have logic that doesn't work as intended, objectives are unclear, or they're basically just large empty spaces. Spooky environments are cool, but at some point, you realize that the scare you expect to be hiding in the darkness will never come and you lose any fear you might have had. Or the scare is overused and it stops being scary, such as with Room Inc. In defense of liminal maps, they do seem conceptually like they'd be hard to pull off in an interesting way.

[@steventechno]

I remember back when gm_adventurers very first dropped around 2010. Back then I remember it having a bit of a spooky feeling, but I love it so much. The nostalgia this map brings. I once actually played a round of zombie survival on this map that I hosted years ago. This map is an all time favorite.

[@c_e_n_t_]

Have you thought about playing custom maps for Half Life: Alyx? There are some horror maps on the workshop.

[@adriansherman]

id still want him to do gmod maps tho

[@scrithen2836]

I love the vibe of the adventurers club, id totally go there in real life, it feels like such a chill place to just hang out

[@rarrawer]

The Bicycle is there so workers can get where they need to be quickly. When someone needs to interact with a few boxes that are scattered across the whole archive, a bike with a basket is the cheap and easy solution to make life easier for everyone. You just make it a rule that whoever uses it has to return it to its spot by the entrance when they leave, so it's ready for the next guy; which is why it's where you found it. Walking speed is maybe 4KM/Hr, a bike can do 20KM/Hr or faster without much trouble. It's more than good enough for the job since your speed is limited mainly by your ability to avoid collisions.

[@jakchromedome7017]

"This guy knows what's up!" That brings a smile to my face.

[@GoodFishMan]

I love the adventures map, had so much fun exploring it for the first time, i bet in vr it would be awesome.

[@Daggz]

you gotta play gm_oldspaces, may be the best liminal map yet

[@thedukeofweasels6870]

In the first one everything's huge because it's from the perspective of the type of kid that would go to one of these attractions it's supposed to fit that nostalgic vibe

[@JamesPlaysJP]

15:00 this is a reference to the game Myst, I could tell what it was once I saw the chair in the middle then the music cued

[@TheKevphil]

Have you played *CONTROL?* Speaking of exposition, they have multiple ways (many unique) ways of clueing the player in. But it is a very story-driven adventure, with loads of info sandwiched between insane amounts of action and exploration, plus a liberal dose of Monty Python-esque humor. IMO, just about the *_best_* TPS RPG SciFi game going.

[@rick-deckard]

I’ve been recommending Control as well!! Would love a play through.

[@ollie459]

the dentist chair room on the first map is a myst reference, its an old school puzzle game and you can play the remaster on game pass if you have it

[@NathanDavisVideos]

15:00 - I'm pretty sure that's suppose to be a tribute to planetarium in the classic 1993 PC game _Myst_ (which definitely has that whole "liminal space" thing going on in it, now I think of it; even BEFORE it became a thing.)

[@mathewgould06]

Amazing videos Librarian! Loving the content. I recommend you play these 3 maps for a video!: Paranoia, Insomnia, Hypnophobia, (BE SURE TO PLAY THEM IN THAT ORDER FOR THE STORY). Not to give anything away, but the ending of one map segues into the beginning of another. I'm sure you'll have a blast with these. They're interesting maps. Thanks for the videos, Keep them up! :)

[@copperboltwire320]

14:52 MYST Seriously, the theme and the music is just straight out of the vibs of MYST... The moment the door swung open i was a little confused, then the music started and i was like "MYST!!".

[@copperboltwire320]

I'm a little sad there wasn't even the TP sound effect and it's effect while Teleporting him to some strange observatory. And in said observatory, you'd have 2 podiums where the entrance doors would be, but one book would be missing out of the two. (visible by the dust covering...) The only book available will take you back to that room. Same effect and sound. The idea is giving me chills.

[@reda29100]

2:05 the face! I saw it before he read, but as he spun around, it was a jumpscare to me. Also, the only jumpscare was the ad, where the vid was quiet but the ad was loud and started with a human voice immediately at 30:00.

[@Bkuuzin]

3D recreations of real places are really cool. The second and third maps are pretty spooky.

[@omar9k]

absolute banger video my guy

[@kitalthevali]

16:00 ok at this point i gotta see you play the Myst series by Cyan, in order they are: Myst (there is a vr version) Riven (has yet to be revamped in 3d with vr planned iirc) Myst III: Exile (could probably do it in vr as is seeing as it is a bunch of 3d panoramas) Myst IV: Revelation (pancake mode only) Myst: Uru (pancake mode only, sometimes needs a fix to run properly) Myst V: End of Ages (pancake mode only)

[@katethenesuneqom]

=> more minecraft maps of horror and calming like the first one

[@NaeveSnowsTavern]

I believe the first map is actually a recreation of a place at Disney a long time ago...? Don't quote me on it.

[@CrashCourseCryptozoology]

It is, actually! Disney Adventure, something like that? Adventurer's Club? I saw an entire video on it that actually contained photos from the place when it was still in operation! Very cool. I wish I had gotten the chance to go there myself.

[@austinhinton3944]

It’s a recreation of the Adventure’s Club that used to be on Pleasure Island (now Pixar Pier)

[@Bordie3D]

You missed it but in the middle of the club there's this deer head thing that physically turns its head to look around the room. It's really freaky but I actually channel it into something really cool. Like it's a dream and what you said about it being a kid's imagination really amplified the creepy and cool feeling from that deer head thing.

[@KevintheRhea]

These videos actually bring me so much joy, your commentary on them is awesome

[@migueeeelet]

Hey, gotta say big thanks for introducing me to Gmod VR! I've been having a blast playing through the Half Life 2 campaign through it!

[@SpecterSensorial]

I DREAM WITH THIS CLASS OF THINGS!!! scenarios almost Like a odd place familiar like a movie but that one u never saw!

[@CrabmanReturns]

Gmod: The game that is every game you want it to be

[@NoOne-qn2hv]

gm_adventurers makes me so nostalgic since I remember exploring this almost a decade ago

[@anormalstreetlamp6878]

OH MAN, I LOVE YOU, THANKS FOR TAKING THESE MAPS ! (This is food for my minecraft liminal space map)

[@Bordie3D]

are you still working on this?

[@SolarSorane]

Oh, Garry's mall certainly gives me a liminal vibe!

[@venobit]

Need to make more parts of This was amazing

[@group2gaming]

loving the gmod videos and playthroughs! (Used to not watch most of your playthroughs but the recent ones have been really good!) Hoping for some more readings soon!

[@krustykrew106]

Man I would love to get vr just to go Into that first map you played and just hang out in the rooms listening to the jazz and smoking a cigarette

[@frycopy2746]

the first one feels like if the bowling alley animations was a place

[@Bordie3D]

lmfao

[@Yodatc]

Oh wow! I helped with this map in a capacity! I saw Brer Ben's first version of the map and I sent him the 1,100 photos I took of the Adventurers Club's artifact collection at Disney's Pleasure Island! My name is on the Jungle Cruise Boat in the Treasure Room!

[@PrincessColumbidae]

22:41 Bahaha the source ladders are so much worse in VR

[@generalesdeath5836]

16:00 the planetarium looks like a reference to Myst.

[@Bordie3D]

yup ^^

[@jehriko7525]

WOOO MORE LIMINAL SPACE STUFF!

[@DarkwaveMistress]

As an archivist, the last map scared the hell out of me.

[@cobrajet3412]

This is the only kinda obscure channel that I actually watch alot. Thanks for the videos librarian

[@xinwu3906]

That Myst reference made me want to cry 😭 ❤️

[@dorrivix4214]

I'm not sure if this counts, but I do know a map called gm_explore_laboratory. basically, an abandoned laboratory next to a dam. it's on the 'spooky' side, but I don't think there are any actual scares in it. it's on the 'medium small' side.

[@mysticmonkey6132]

I can't remember the first GMod Workshop map Iv've ever explored, but Adventurers Club is definitely the earliest ones I played.

[@officialwyattthesans12345]

You guys remember the popular Gmod KZbinr known as Spikewess? Well at the beginning of the video I think this is the map they played. And my God it brings so much nostalgia.

[@theminutemen8817]

Cool, But we all know gm_construct is the OG of all Liminals

[@twilightparanormalresearch186]

On the archives I remember when I saw a black shadow (there is but don’t know the trigger) and scared the shit out of me

[@Liam-man-93]

gm_adventurers, a classic map. I had some good times messing around with friends on that map.

[@headflap7569]

omg I remember being a little kid watching venturiantale play on that first map

[@Bordie3D]

Aw VenturinTale. What a tragedy.

[@kabob0077]

I have to wonder how maps like these would be in something like H3VR, imagine having to find your way out of a Liminal Space but you can have the comforting presence of something like a SIG or a Garand in case the map maker decided to be cheeky.

[@killerchaos0346]

love these videos

[@Cheeznuat]

Coop_stairwell would be funny for a quick gag I think

[@Nova_The_Gamer]

I love it that the second map reminds me of a few levels in the game Manhunt 1

[@user-dm6xx5hm5b]

The first map is so awesome I think I'll need to download this masterpiece instead of one building you have a whole island to roam around outdoors like this is so cool man I hade a dream of this in 2012 when I was a kiddo

[@gregruelas7830]

"what is this?" It's Myst! I know I'm late but it's Myst! :D

[@barristerjanedoe1596]

The first map is beautiful

[@nekemli2622]

Look at that. The second video which is 1 day old got 2k views and this one which isn't even 1 day old got 3 times that. Thats how you know people wanna watch this kind of stuff.

[@dak3747]

YESS GM ADVENTURE

[@caimkindra702]

The chair room is from myst the game with the music too that is really cool🤘😁

[@MrBrax]

Pretty sure the chair room is a Myst reference

[@Bordie3D]

yup ^^

[@MrRed_2205]

You're supposed to press a button in the storage room for the credit room to open in Gm_Archives, also weird that there was no ambiance because there was when i made a video, maybe the map got updated?

[@altega]

is the planetarium room a reference to myst, perhaps?

[@Bordie3D]

Yup ^^

[@UnsatedSaiyanist]

2nd map reminds me of an old ps2 (I think) game called project eden. That game creeper me out as a kid.

[@JoaoNeto-up8zi]

No way in hell I would go through this, that's much spookier than most horror games. Congratulations tho

[@omegasynth2775]

Man how I WISH there were more Disney Ride themed Maps...

[@Guy96477]

The first one feels like something you would see at Disney land

[@tomphosis]

Nothing like laying in bed, watching the librarian and watching pizza on a Saturday evening

[@Kingkool-uo1ew]

i wish the adventurer’s club wasn’t dragged down with the rest of pleasure island

[@KING-FMJ]

The librarian: i bet we are in the pyramid Also the librarian: has a absolute heart attack stroke

[@thedukeofweasels6870]

Getting back rooms vibes from Game 2

[@snackcakesmcgee7729]

At some point, you might want to check out some maps called paranoia, insomnia, and hypnophobia.

[@lonerinspaceak0000]

You should try exploring some half life 2 beta maps in vr gmod. They give off some real liminal space vibes.

[@amyvocalist]

IT's so weird hearing someone talk about the club who has no idea what the club is.

[@TheOneAndAlways]

When you said go to places that no longer exist I instantly thought of the titanic.

[@thewackytrap]

i got more of a jumpscare from the statue looking into my soul at 2:02

[@hgffrh5329]

Really good, continue your videos, next time could you make us one again for the "haunted" maps

[@Bordie3D]

Here are a couple of the songs you can hear in the adventurers club: Stardust: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYamlmCYZq6Em7c MYST Theme: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGrbeqSrgrd4eqs