GMOD's Most Controversial Addon

[@simonhope9590]

Telling people from post soviet countries to stop pirating is like telling a human to stop breathing.

[@Damian-cilr2]

as someone living in a post soviet eastern/central european country(poland,although its not neccesarily as bad in poland as it is somewhere like say ukraine),i can confirm

[@ForOne814]

Piracy when you're from Eastern Europe. Upsides: free stuff. Downsides: literally none, it's even legal.

[@youhateyoutube]

lived in a post soviet country in the past and can confirm too

[@kellymountain]

can confirm as i am from post soviet country (kazakhstan)

[@metium27]

well it's not just eastern european countries. even some middle east countries like iran pirate games. not because they just want free stuff but because a 20$ game is 1/10 of someone's salary (if they have a job)

[@MTB396]

I remember being banned from the beatrun demo group, once because i said, the mod is too expensive in my country.

[@NerfMaster000]

Wow, didn’t expect to see you here

[@leokommadant938]

Ayy it's MTB

[@skeletonmemelord7779]

bruh

[@josephpruitt2067]

its costs more than the game it self xd

[@zan821]

its also too expensive in my country, 10.50 in SR (i live in and am from saudi arabia) is 39.38 SR, this shit also costs more than gmod itself

[@0xGRIDRUNR]

"eastern european gmod communities, which is probably the closest thing the internet has to the hood" has me fucking DEAD bro

[@Iron_Soil]

What's hood

[@Andrey_27249]

​@@Iron_Soil poor black neighborhoods in America that have a lot of crime

[@0xGRIDRUNR]

@@Iron_Soil it's a slang term that refers to low income neighborhoods and how they garner a specific kind of culture and philosophy about the world. This culture is fueled by two main things; limited access to education from poor financial support from the government and surrounding community and therefore limiting the financial success of the individuals in the community, and toxic philosophies (glorifying breaking laws, specifically about doing/selling drugs and owning potentially unregistered firearms) about success and lifestyle choices that are perpetuated by the very communities that are held back by them. There's definitely more to this, like how systematic oppression, subconscious and conscious racism, and unfair police treatment also prevent these communities from changing, but I think you get the idea.

[@Iron_Soil]

@@Andrey_27249 you mean any black neighborhood?

[@Iron_Soil]

@@0xGRIDRUNR your wall of text was interesting untill you started to give me a society and racism lesson

[@TheExperienceYT]

I heard a lot about Datae, how great their Addons are and how high effort they were. All I heard about Datae as a person though was almost always negative.

[@bearishplane17]

Digger is another person who is also a negative type. The vibes he gives off, i'm surprised he even makes tiny ass car mods for the community.

[@atub7055]

I heard alot about him straight up just being an evil and horrible person.

[@glizzygulper8948]

seems to be a trend with really good creators. they're either really nice genuine people or absolutely evil, no in between

[@HyakuSh1ki]

Reminds me of the guy that Made the cars mod for new Vegas/frontier, he's a wizard, but he also has a huge ego.

[@rmatt53]

Stick to the free safe version or risk buying malware. 🤔

[@dumbcatposter]

how many rats could ratlobber lob if ratlobber could lob rats

[@girkenschniza9691]

27

[@ashtonthefirst]

seventy five

[@mints4997]

His green light saber

[@JustSomeRandomTony]

Yes

[@heyheyduskyhere]

None he can't lob rats duh😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@teabix8755]

My biggest gripe with the addon curators actions is that most of the people who would be trying to pirate the addon were probably children.

[@hungryfarm5744]

This guy expected very poor people to pay more for his addon than the game it modified and then publicly humiliated them for not doing so. Much better mods are available for free, he just found a niche that wasn't filled yet and exploited it.

[@bimboalabama5649]

nice pfp brother

[@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708]

Also Russians who legally could not pay for it

[@aandyherr817]

Don't care, didn't ask, russians dropping child-porn every 5 seconds they join any server. Child or not, if you're a child or small baby you shouldn't be on STEAM pirating shit. Can't handle the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchen.

[@aandyherr817]

@@hungryfarm5744 Ok Design your own, release it free, and stop whining. Gmod isn't a life or death situation, poor people-- who seem to drop CHILD PORN every where they go. They can't afford $10.50 but can afford 900$ worth of child porn to post it all over forums, servers and such and spam it non stop or ddos servers. Amazing. "I can't afford a gmod addon someone spent a long time on, time to DDOS servers, spam bots and spam child-porn." just start suspending account interaction from eastern european countries and you'd see a 90% decrease in all forms of harassmenet and issues on steam. Amazing

[@Armordude91122Cute]

Gmod addon creators trying to be normal human beings = impossible difficulty.

[@ryszakowy]

the guy who ports and enchances models from games is the current pope of workshop

[@juanespin5527]

​@@ryszakowywho?

[@vlim5601]

Can confirm, am a gmod addon developer

[@pold111]

@@juanespin5527 probably talking about the people who made modern warfare base

[@juanespin5527]

@@pold111 oh yeah

[@cman8995]

Imagine stealing animations from Mirror's Edge to make a monetized addon for a game he didn't create, and then proceeds to inject DRM to it, and dox + ban an entire region for pirating it, as if he owns the IP for both Mirror's Edge and Garry's mod.

[@AlOstosman]

And on top of that the people he doxxed and banned literally couldnt pay and even if they could 99% of them were too poor

[@TheEvo86]

moat degen steam creator and that's saying a fuckload, any 10 dollar for a meme game is already pushing it but this is just dumb

[@ДаниилСтепанов-р1и]

Also: >imagine - live itself in Country, which basically (kinda) supports (like russia) - a piracy and knockoff-ing of western products. >imagine defend a chinese hypocrite

[@superizillian957]

Sonic gather battle developer:

[@Imetral0]

this attitude has plagued large swathes of the modding community for multiple games lately, its so fucking disheartening.

[@justandrew9_9]

For 10 dollars you can buy the game that he imitated lmao.

[@shrimpaerospace]

For 10 dollars you can imitate every fps game lmao.

[@jacobnami8380]

A month.

[@justbilly]

@@jacobnami8380 nah 10 bucks gets you a lifetime subscription of beatrun

[@slimjim2321]

​@@jacobnami8380Not per month, He didn't remove your access to the download even if the sub expired. It was intended for you to sub, get it. Then unsub. Patreon doesn't have a way for people to easily make single transactions but he, and many others, try to use it that way.

[@lukav3509]

10 dollars for a game for a lifetime, meanwhile this guy asks for 10 dollars every month. greed wont get you anywhere, neither will racism

[@SatoshiAR]

I've always held the theory that the handful of talented mod developers would have a job in the games industry if it wasn't for the fact their behavior & personality made them unhirable to any studio.

[@wolfbournethefirst5055]

Look at Valve themselves. The company started with Gabe Newell and whoever his partner was hiring a bunch of mod makers as the game devs.

[@ye11owman29]

unhireable? lmao w/all the shit that's come out about game companies and the scummy shit that goes on in them these mod developers would fit right in.

[@SatoshiAR]

@@ye11owman29 thing is, they know how to hide that shit amongst their inner circles while the latter will use it to grab clout from the wider community.

[@ye11owman29]

@@SatoshiAR idk I think it's better that you know that they are pieces of garbage

[@RaritySpec]

its legit 10$ for a mod bro. Broke people seem to be the only ones complaining. 🤣

[@cemmy410]

Imagine buying a mod that costs more than the base game 🥴

[@thewiseowl8804]

I imagined it. Your point is that you’re upset you don’t have enough money.

[@crackb0ne]

​@@thewiseowl8804 loser

[@Dexusaz]

@@thewiseowl8804 What a dumb take, a mod for a game you already paid for should never be behind a paywall. Not to mention that it has to be against the terms of service.

[@mysteryY2K]

@@thewiseowl8804 least wise owl ever

[@theminecraft4202]

@@Dexusaz that's stupid, there are addons that people have spent years developing, beatrun being one of them, i see nothing wrong with making money from your hard work. Assuming a mod should be free is discrediting the effort the creator put into said mod.

[@weiwu1442]

a VAC ban on record tells me all i need to know about that guys personality

[@bearishplane17]

it was "Multiple game bans on record" actually.

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

A game ban is what happens when a game developer personally bans you. A VAC ban is not that. What most likely happened is he was banned by Eastern European devs in response.

[@Chris48x]

​@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizenthis is quite literally just not true.

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

@@Chris48x Shit son, I guess Steam is lying about their own policies, I apologize.

[@muufle]

​@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen He's talking about where the game bans came from, doofus. The dude cheated in games like csgo which caused overwatch bans and other games and such. He's even openly admitted to this, stop spouting false information my guy.

[@muttipi]

oh boy i thought this was gonna be about the struggle snuggle swep that lots of RP servers still use today.

[@ratlobber]

it WAS going to be but... well u know how youtube is...

[@muttipi]

@@ratlobberstill a great video keep up the good work

[@VinVonVoom]

What is that and what happened I'm now very curious and google is no help

[@SolitaireShovel]

its a thing where you forcibly make out with a person without their consent. (18+)

[@andyztoyy]

@@VinVonVoom It's a grape swep (Without the G).

[@pew9078]

mfw a gmod modder bans the entirety of eastern europe because someone called him a slur

[@oboroth51]

East eu rent free

[@ryszakowy]

american snowflake moment

[@hueyj1975]

Russians deserve a LOT worse desu

[@miniak2708]

​@@ryszakowy prawda...

[@LaRavachole]

I don't know if that's petty or a power move.

[@Touhou2006]

a Ukrainian once told me, "Paying for game is fine. Paying for mod of game you already bought is stupid. Punishing pirates for pirating an mod is double stupid. "

[@sergeantheavyass3471]

Wise words

[@stormhought]

there a lot of mods that I would happily pay for. For example: Entropy Zero: 2. It basically a whole game

[@Peter_Turbo4]

@@stormhought When I figure out how to pay them for their effort, I will. The Entropy: Zero saga is a masterpiece

[@Touhou2006]

@@stormhought Honestly that itself is more of a game than a mod

[@BoltzHG]

@@stormhought You are comparing a tacked on gameplay behavior modification to a full on sequel tier experience my friend, the latter does deserve at-least a 20 dollar price tag simply because of being worthy of being called a separate game at that point with hours of content to shift through and experience. While the former is just another mod that is nowhere near the production value of EZ2 that is essentially " Make your own fun " for a game that on its own is 10 dollars. Beatrun belongs in the bin with all the other free mods, allowing them to charge for something so little sets a dangerous precedent that companies even tried to set but failed, and you must be a fool to not know what the modding community thinks of that when your mod isn't anything on the EZ:2 or Overhaul/Expansion worthy tier.

[@SpookySkeleton738]

I can't think of a single time an indie dev or mod maker has put malware DRM in their game and it hasn't ended horribly for them. Why people still do it is a mystery.

[@Boomrainbownuke9608]

control. thats why. they are so obsessed with having complete control, that they’d break the law to do it.

[@thatrandom_canadian]

Remember, if a developer includes malicious code in their work then it is morally correct to pirate a version of their work without the malicious code. You must also assume any and all of their work contains malicious code.

[@Freakmenn]

zased

[@Kai-ky6tf]

sounds poor

[@idontcheckrepliesstaymad958]

@@Kai-ky6tf sounds financially irresponsible. If you really think paying an exorbitantly overprice of 10$ for small parkour niche unofficial game addon is a flex im sorry but you’ve been diagnosed with “terminally online”

[@thatrandom_canadian]

@@Kai-ky6tf I'm not paying for potential malware, if that makes me poor then better poor than stupid. I'd just buy Mirror's Edge instead.

[@somedesertdude1308]

​@@Kai-ky6tf not wasting money for this shit

[@WeegeepieYT]

I make (very small, not really widely useful & no code) addons on Gmod, and imo Not a fan of locking an addon behind a paywall, but it’s support for development, so sure. But like.. what they did afterwards was outright stupid and unnecessary though :/ straight up doxxing them is craazy..

[@WeegeepieYT]

You’ve got the stupid RP servers, the Nextbots and now the dumb*ss addon devs 🥲 yippee

[@icespeaker81]

Truth is, and it's a hard truth, I used to make maps and mods too: you don't get shit out of it. most players are whiney and want more content, just complaint after complaint... I switched to paid game dev and would never look back. Get out while you can

[@Peter_Turbo4]

@@icespeaker81 sounds like a Skill Issue on your behalf.

[@czarthy]

nah his actions were based as fuck

[@icespeaker81]

@@Peter_Turbo4 Nope. Go look at most workshop addons comments. Just complaining and then some. Not worth it for anyone who values their time and sanity.

[@rezmenoww7526]

you can get both mirrors edge games for cheaper than the addon💀

[@ifeelsosigma99]

truly devastating

[@AlphaCarinae]

What's your point lol

[@fingersniff5520]

​@@AlphaCarinaecommon sense is hard to come by huh

[@fingersniff5520]

​@@AlphaCarinaenvm, turns out you're only in this for racial motivations. Actually demented lmao

[@fingersniff5520]

@@AlphaCarinae good one dude I'll leave you to your putin crusade

[@cheezkid2689]

I'm friends with some gmod addon devs notable for their weapon packs, who have interacted with Datae in the past. According to them, he's absolutely a malicious bastard and is a general toxic asshole for more reasons than just this. You give him too much credit.

[@Damian-cilr2]

Honestly i'm not too surprised,leaking ip adresses is legally questionable and makes him seem like an asshole,but banning an entire region of the world makes him seem like even more of an asshole which i'd expect is what a toxic mod creator would do,and he did exactly that,cool you don't want piracy,but if you try to stop it by leaking ip adresses via backdoor,chances are,someone will literally just remove the backdoor themselves and it may create backlash,which is exactly what happened here.

[@warweasel2832]

@@Damian-cilr2 He distributed malware. That's an international crime. If he did even more malicious shit with it, Interpol or the EU equivalent would be on his ass like flies on shit. He's a lucky mf that they don't care.

[@SameSeam]

Sounds like hersy to me, for all I know you could be defending piracy to make Dantae (The victim) seem like a bad guy

[@cheezkid2689]

@@SameSeam I'm not. I don't know why you're defending this guy.

[@SameSeam]

@@cheezkid2689 I don't know why you're defending pirates

[@thebyzocker]

not to mention that, at the very least in the entirety of the european union, what he did is pretty illegal

[@somedesertdude1308]

​@lolseagull xi might get them

[@wasdwazd]

@@somedesertdude1308 Are you kidding he gained so much Social Credit for stealing information from other countries

[@quarticmap]

​@lolseagull he isn't

[@raio8637]

​@@quarticmap scdbshhshshd

[@OperatorMax1993]

​@@wasdwazd and he's not even part of North Korea's Lazarus group

[@Peter_Turbo4]

This man really expects to be paid for porting the Mirror’s Edge movement engine into Garry’s Mod. Who’s the real pirate here.

[@Fanboy-hf1iu]

the mod is legitimately fantastic tho

[@Peter_Turbo4]

@@Fanboy-hf1iu I know it is, but ultimately it’s just a Copy of somebody else’s work.

[@Fanboy-hf1iu]

@@Peter_Turbo4 i don't think it's possibly to import Unreal Engine 3 animations directly into Source in the first placr

[@hi-i-am-atan]

@@Fanboy-hf1iu eh, there's probably a toolkit for that _somewhere,_ considering how model ports have been a major part of gmod addons for ... basically its entire existence like, you certainly couldn't just use official valve tools, but at its core, you're just translating one skeletal animation format into a different skeletal animation format

[@pyotrilyichtchaikovskyii6638]

As if it's simply some animation pack.

[@el_jamos]

He didn't stop piracy. He just showed the people that he is an untrustworthy developer which should never be trusted and the addons of which should not be played.

[@John-Stark]

Or to just post the mods to 4Chan and watch the fireworks

[@Eye5x5]

he also showed that you are a pathetic snowflake ;)

[@mudriderR]

Your a untrustworthy nobody

[@jamesrosewell9081]

Actually he did stop piracy

[@b.w.s3165]

@@jamesrosewell9081 I guess he did lol, because nobody with a brain buys his mod anymore. Everyone just gets a free modified open-source community version, with all the malicious code removed (That was also present in the paid version)

[@Cosmonity]

This is extremely worrying, because if this addon creator is willing to inject malicious code into his own addon and he makes a couple of addons that as ratlobber put it, "are the backbone of the realism part of the gmod community," then we could potentially have another June 3rd incident on our hands. Causing mass paranoia once more, and maybe even another chain of addon creators injecting malicious code into their addons to add fuel to the fire.

[@Nahobussyino]

It’s pretty sad too because these animations are amazing but at least I’m safe from getting my ip leaked

[@Cosmonity]

@@Nahobussyino Damn this comment is 3 months old. I had to re-read my old comment to even know what you were talking about 😂

[@Nahobussyino]

@@Cosmonity 💀

[@AlphaCarinae]

Cringe

[@Nahobussyino]

@@AlphaCarinae what game or show does the character in your pfp come from? If it’s okay asking

[@ssjgod5059]

So the guy took the mirror's edge animations and movement mechanics and now wants to get paid? And then plays the hero? This guy is the biggest clown I've seen in a while.

[@ocean057]

Yeah, fucking datae man

[@RusticRonnie]

Well he is Chinese

[@raisingthejay]

​@@RusticRonnieI know some people who used to know him, apparently he's french and I think the Chinese location thing is a gag.

[@DC-it2ng]

@@raisingthejay Same thing really

[@raisingthejay]

@@DC-it2ng yeah, the french.

[@jake975]

dropping 10$ on an add-on is more doxx-worthy than pirating it

[@TheEvo86]

paying for a mod thats more expensive than the game is the stupidest thing ever

[@heavyweaponsguy6284]

Isint steam mostly just about free addons?

[@CharleneLoach]

​@@TheEvo86they cost the same💀

[@TheEvo86]

@@CharleneLoach im fairly sure GMOD costs like 8 dollars

[@Maro2110]

Bro, why this dude made addon what i need to pay 10$ when there are other better addons what are free, for example mee's mods. He did impossible adding fluid simulation, infinite map, and it's all free

[@stefan-x9g]

"maybe it was wrong to put those people's ip's on a wall of shame" *BRO WHAT? MAYBE?* 💀

[@PouLS]

"and maybe it was wrong to ban an *enitre region of the world* from playing the addon" Yeah, maybe...

[@gloryowner1970]

@@PouLS That is what grinds my gears is that people are so concerned about ips than they are about physically not being able to play the game just because you have crylic in your name. It is indeed very wrong to make a wall of ip's but not letting a specific group of people who have a similar language is fucking inhuman

[@now-semen-up]

i like ratlobber but think there was a legitimate bias when making this video

[@TheRealPhaeism]

yeah 💀had to reconsider the subscription

[@disposable_income_andy]

@@now-semen-up theres a comment of paragraphs of how scummy of a person datae is from personal and second hand experience while they were friends. ratlobber instead hearted the one where datae themselves responded with a single sentence mocking it while disproving nothing. not to mention the multiple game bans on the profile combined with banning an entire region, should tell you all you need to know about datae.

[@disciple2742]

I wouldn't pay $10 for a running addon either... 😂

[@ifeelsosigma99]

"pay up or be crippled"-datae

[@LaloSalamancaGaming69]

Then dont download it

[@Chonkems]

​@@LaloSalamancaGaming69 funny you say that, when most people actually prefer the pirated version now, since it's actually still getting updates, unlike real beatrun lol.

[@maybefaith23]

For 10 dollars you can literally get the game that Datae copied to make Beatrun lmao

[@Chonkems]

@@maybefaith23 or wait for a sale and get both ME games for like $7 CAD.

[@thedoctor3996]

Datae was 100% in the wrong lol. There's no question about it.

[@Electro2007]

Let's not even TALK about his discord messages.

[@GoodSirEvil]

And he's literally a criminal. Not to forget.

[@realahiga]

More like sigma.

[@realahiga]

@@Damian-cilr2 yes

[@richardlionerheart1945]

@@Damian-cilr2 bro that's just based

[@Ay-xq7mj]

There is tons to worry about. If someone is willing to inject malicious code into software you probably shouldnt use it.

[@w7u]

I use most of his vmanip addons so now I’m extremely concerned

[@billybobjoephilcorncobtiptopge]

@@StanJacobs ever heard of the "glue library incident"? and I am not just talking about glue library itself, I mean the other addons that got affected too

[@VexxedSR]

Game Dev Tycoon distributed their game to pirating websites. They put a genius block into the game that would stop you from progressing further. Once you get to a certain part of the game after developing your games, you get a message saying that your games have been pirated and you'd go bankrupt.

[@Jojje94]

That's a smart move in many ways. Effectively it was a demo and a moral story wrapped up into one.

[@juanespin5527]

Is even funnier when in the last update from the game they add that feature to the normal game

[@xehP]

Everyone knows this by now

[@juanespin5527]

@@Ayymsfrmasdfgaswef nono they distribute a fake pirated version of the game in a website don't know what it was

[@gamingkitten4everone]

Not only that, but when you first play the game on Steam, you get an achievement called ''Supporter: support a young-up. Buy the game.'' And if I'm correct, you also get a little in-game message thanking you for purchasting the game.

[@davieuacho]

10:03 lol "stealing money from a small addon creator" the dude literally went against the whole principle of modding and charged more than the base game's price for an addon, and then when people didn't want to submit to such stupid bs he went on a xenophobic rampage and finally doxxed random people (probably a bunch of children in the crossfire as well). I couldn't care less for this control freak, if he wants money for his hard work then maybe he should make an actual game or work as a programmer for some random company, if you make a mod for a game you do it for passion and love for the game and it's community, not for cash and specially not to doxx people who don't comply to your insanity. C'mon ratlobber, you're better than this.

[@crazymegakek_omglol_lmao_s8892]

dude literally stole animations from one game and started selling them in another like what🤖🤖🤖

[@Kelquir]

​@@crazymegakek_omglol_lmao_s8892that's the thing that freaks me the most

[@aramisperez9923]

@@crazymegakek_omglol_lmao_s8892 What's worse is that people claim they're 'based' off mirrors edge when they're clearly the exact same animations jankily being pushed through G Mod.

[@CZ-PC]

"C'mon ratlobber, you're better than this." 100% This video is frankly disgusting.

[@legosus69]

ratlobber be MEATRIDING

[@ZarKus]

i used to be sorta friends with Dataes main friend group and i got to know him a bit, they were always horribly racist in any servers they were in and just awful all together which was back in around 2018 more recently in 2022 i have seen him making fun or insulting the people who are supporting his addon by paying for it, for the smallest things i feel that what was covered in this video, is just the surface level, Dataeis just a horrible person, he had multiple discord servers in the past and he always deleted them and started a new one to hide all the awful things he and his friends said, his friends also used to raid small discord servers and spam them with nsfw images (my server was also affected by this at the time) back in 2022 when i was on his discord server, he was openly making fun of anyone who didnt play the mod exactly the way he wanted them to i remember him also making fun of people that didnt want to play community created parkour maps and just wanted to do their own stuff, he was insulting them for not playing it right and putting them on full display on the server Datae doesnt deserve the support he gets, he isnt thankful for it, no matter how much you pay him, if you even play the mod "wrong" in his eyes, ur gonna get openly insulted i ask you that you try to do a deeper dive on him, Datae is just a deep rabbit hole of awful denegenerate behaviour, only thing that is setting him apart from others in his modding skills

[@sergeantheavyass3471]

Yeah im not suprised that a person willing to leak peoples ip just because they didnt wanna pay for a mod that costs more than the base game is just a generally horrible person

[@Peter_Turbo4]

He is just an awful human being. Lock him in a room with TF2’s MvM community.

[@Peter_Turbo4]

@@coregod109 He’s not racist, He’s a Bigot. The difference is professionalism.

[@linuxization4205]

surprised nobody doxxed HIM yet.

[@Mentallyheld]

i dont want to be that person but,how can we trust you if you are actually saying the truth

[@anamusingidiot2565]

Goes in, making a free mod. People get hype, beg for release. Charges for it, as much as the base game. People decide to try getting it for free. *Surprised Pikachu Face*

[@mint5438]

Greed is one hell of a thing

[@lukav3509]

if he just made it free on the workshop none of this wouldve happened but since hes an idiot...

[@ifeelsosigma99]

​@@mint5438USSR had a cartoon and it had a song about greediness,all the characters who sang died horrible deaths (asphyxiation from too much cigarettes,got shot and etc.)

[@natebeare9978]

@@mint5438 and any game dev that had enough hype for there game they was gunna release for free would add a price (obv if they hadn’t said it was gunna be free yet) stfu hypocrite

[@Freakmenn]

Unironically pathetic behavior from the dude all around. Not just with doxxing pirates, but his past as well is equally as bad. Hope a crack is found soon lmao

[@commandervex1626]

The fact he's selling animations and such from Mirrors Edge as his own is insane and the fact is he isn't legally allowed to do so

[@jamesrosewell9081]

He didn't steal them, he made animations from scratch in GMod based off of Mirror's Edge parkour system.

[@ChaseMC215]

​@@jamesrosewell9081 They said Selling, not stealing.

[@aramisperez9923]

What's probably even worse is that people think that because he made them from scratch that its okay even though they're an exact replica. Almost as if they're ripped from the game lol

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

​@@aramisperez9923To be fair, even if he ripped them off, he still has to port them into GMod. That's still some effort.

[@spartanwar1185]

I thought those animations looked rather close to Mirror's Edge... Jesus fucking christ...

[@jared6343]

I dont think charging for something like a gmod addon is a good idea, even something of this scale. It's a slippery slope, one that we saw the end result of already during the Skyrim paid mods catastrophe. On top of that, it goes against the very principles and freedom of shared creativity Gmod was built on to begin with. I think he should have just let people donate to him via patreon if they wanted to. I'm sure plenty of people would have, given the donations some popular mod developers get and you know, the myriad of children and simps that pay for premium on gmod servers already. Datae's response definitely didn't help, and of course one could remark the irony of a Chinese person assuming everyone of other ethnicities are pirates/bootleggers, and then the doxxing was even worse, but ultimately I don't think a gmod addon should have been paywalled to begin with, especially not one so many people have wanted for years. It's the equivalent of when the SkyUI dev did that. Even if you think charging for this sort of stuff is okay, I think it's agreeable datae in particular does not deserve the monetary support after doing that.

[@Alexander_Grant]

Just don't use it? Guess what, if no one pays for it, there would be no reason to charge for it. Why are Garry's Mod players so entitled? "Wow, there's a million other free addons I can play, but I want to pirate this one instead!" Normally I'm for piracy, but this isn't EA or another big name company. It is so funny their IPs got put up, they completely deserve it. Next time just don't use a paid addon.

[@critlv972]

I even doubt that it's legal. Besides, as I understand, the russians had started stealing the mod because they don't even have the option to pay for it - no patreon and no foreign debit cards out there.

[@skwishydude]

@@Alexander_Grant it’s a cool popular game mod that has no real replica. if the dev wanted to profit he could’ve just made his own game with your logic.

[@jared6343]

@@Alexander_Grant making an addon for another game is vastly different than making your own game. Regardless, we already saw why your logic doesn't work anyways with the skyrim paid mods fiasco, which was so disastrous valve actually had to discontinue it. Man should have just had a donation button instead of putting up a paywall then doxxing people

[@Alexander_Grant]

@@jared6343 It's still time and effort put towards it. You think you're owed the addon? And the Skyrim mod fiasco didn't work? Last time I checked, Bethesda is charging for mods with the Creation Club. If it's going to be disastrous, let that happen, just don't download the addon, it's really that simple. You aren't owed anyone's creation no matter how entitled you feel towards other people's work.

[@Kamsthetics]

i personally have to disagree, i think datæ's actions have been nothing more than just constant dick moves over and over again and he definitely deserves a lot of backlash from it. nothing is sacred in the internet, neither is a damn mod of a video game.

[@saddamhussein2]

I can understand charging a small price like 2-5 dollars for a big mod or making a patreon but 10 dollars for an addon that just copies the movement from another game is just ridiculous

[@OperatorMax1993]

I agree with what you say, he really deserves all the backlash, not just from his excessive control freak actions of region locking and paywalls, but even his bigotry and racism

[@ryszakowy]

@@OperatorMax1993 respect racism and don't group it with being a fucking idiot who thought he could demand $10 for a fucking running script racism has nothing to do with it

[@GoodSirEvil]

Not just dick moves. But like, actual criminal activity. From making a paid mod (witch is against steams guidelines) to leaking personal info he did break laws. For better or for worse there is little law on the internet so nothing happened to him it seems. I'm surprised his mod hasn't been shut down by valve yet. But that's on brand for them.

[@АлексейСвиридов-у9о]

​@@saddamhussein2 Charging money for a mod is not justifiable at all. No matter how much you charge for it.

[@JackieJKENVtuber]

"You guys like Batman, don't you?" Not if he's anti-piracy

[@TheRealPhaeism]

real

[@originalname4701]

Hot take piracy is bad. Don't steal things.

[@JackieJKENVtuber]

@@originalname4701 piracy isn't theft, and I'm tired of pretending it is

[@EatMeGoogleStopChangingShit]

​@@originalname4701 Piracy is based if it's against big corporations or people like Datæ. Piracy isn't theft.

[@whitepaws60]

@@JackieJKENVtuber It depends on the context. Music piracy? Get fucked music corp. pirating 1 guys hard work and months or even years of time spent all to save 10 whole dollars? Go ahead but don't act like you are morally correct. Its still shitty. Modders do not owe you free mods. They spend months making this thing then give it away for free, and you know what happens? They make basically no money even if they throw a donation option in there a mod can get millions of downloads and get like 10 1 dollar donations. I dont blame modders for wanting to get something for that effort. This might go a bit far but it is pretty funny. I use piracy for games all the time. for games I already own or games I wanna try out before buying or if the game is absurdly overpriced despite being released half a decade earlier (Looking at you Activision/Call of Duty I refuse to pay 60 dollars for a 5 year old cod campaign I wanted to replay)

[@snake_eater1963]

How do people even come up with a defense for this? Someone's really gotta leak that source code

[@cynier]

apparently the source code for the addon has been released not by datae ofc

[@no-ld3hz]

if it's not a gmod module (written in c/cpp). The source code will be at your finger tips.

[@whitepaws60]

You cant leak the source code unless you have the source code... The code that's used to write the addon pre-compilation which is only available to the person who writes it. I don't think you understand how mods work my guy.

[@no-ld3hz]

@@whitepaws60 acshually, sweaty. you could abuse a CEF vuln or escape the lua sandbox and load malicious code on the target's pc to leak it. we could continue the lua sandbox escape through vmatrix.__gc leaking (also gmod doesn't compile code you nonce, it's all plaintext unless it's a binary module, which no one uses because the overhead is too large and causes massive performance spikes)

[@trianglemoebius]

@@whitepaws60 I think they know that - they're saying someone needs to hack Datae and release his personal files. Just without directly saying it, because that'd be banworthy. They aren't using the term 'source code' because they don't know that it means, they're using it hoping you do.

[@Crow_Rising]

-Is specifically explained that Patreon isn't available in Russia, blocking anyone there from being able to buy the mod thus leaving piracy as the only option to play it. -Instead of finding a way to make it available to purchase in Russia, he just bans everyone in the vague general area from playing the mod. -Takes it a step further by deliberately making a compromised pirate version of the mod and distributing it specifically to dox people who use it, the majority of which are likely to have been unable to purchase the mod to begin with due to the only method to do so being unavailable. I don't always side with the majority opinion, but in this case it seems like the most logical thing to do. The dude's actions as described come off as openly and actively malicious and hostile. These aren't the actions of someone just looking to make a profit on a mod, otherwise the obvious solution would just be to provide a way for people in the affected area to purchase it.

[@methmonster]

@@alexihemmoranta297 xenophobe alert?

[@dogeshow2651]

@@alexihemmoranta297doesn’t matter, a lot of games are banned there right now but nobody buys them anyway they just pirate them

[@olknoxlo]

@@alexihemmoranta297 Based as hell.

[@alexihemmoranta297]

@@methmonster Being a person who lives in 1st world country, i just dont want to have uneducated, low iq, low income people in my games. Also in the end only positive thing about russia, (and eastern europe countries) is HIV.

[@Name-ps9fx]

​@@methmonster Xenophobe = another Leftist "dog whistle", used for alleged virtue signalling. Leftist "values" = corruption and crime...which not coincidentally is what we find throughout eastern Europe.

[@K0Y0NEN]

6:35 “I don’t trust slavs with my stuff and this is why” is blatant xenophobia against Slavic people

[@Kat_299]

I mean, I've literally never had a good experience with a Slavic person literally ever. Always the biggest cunts imaginable who suck eachother's cocks the moment they detect another slavic person, making them completely untrustable unless you're also slavic

[@militaristica]

kid named pattern recognition

[@AlphaCarinae]

Slavic "people" rofl

[@-EJ-]

I mean, the other guy wasn’t exactly being open either.

[@yoboikamil525]

i'm a slav and I agree we're not people we're bacteria ​@@AlphaCarinae

[@sorayasmeaton1581]

Naw man you can't be defending him for doxxing.

[@sjuvanet]

serious question, since when is an ip and steamid considered doxxing?

[@self-proclaimedanimator]

Man that guy has china flag on his profile What did you except?

[@n1trogasoline]

@@sjuvanet People can find addresses through IP, dude.

[@JacksonKarmenLowe]

@@self-proclaimedanimator the people arent bad its the goverment dumbass

[@JacksonKarmenLowe]

@@n1trogasoline ip's dont give you their address only the area

[@Bobo-ry5gq]

Ain’t no way he just said “You thought I was gonna let that slide?” and doxxed the people who pirated a gmod addon

[@toolazytocomeupwithsomething]

Ain't no way he protected his product from thieves

[@Mrgrimm150]

@@toolazytocomeupwithsomething Datae wont kiss you bro

[@liquidsweg4858]

​@@toolazytocomeupwithsomethingby commiting a crime way worse than piracy? Here's your clown shoes bozo

[@ifeelsosigma99]

​@@toolazytocomeupwithsomethinglisten here scallywag💯. I suggest you yap that nonsense somewhere🦟❌ else. 🏴‍☠️☠️keep rambling and you WILL regret it buddy

[@AlphaCarinae]

Yeah it's almost like everyone involved is a hypocrite

[@belkanox1]

Instead of finding a compromise, dude made fun of Russian people for not even being able to buy the mod. He definitely did not pass the vibe check

[@IvanKCM]

@Pek ah yes, xenophobia

[@PouLS]

@Pek Ah yes, making fun of people for no reason, my favourite thing to do. Let's make fun of Pek, shall we?

[@getgle]

@@IvanKCM Oh no the poor poor Russians. We definitely should be getting upset about Pek hurting their feelings while they're destroying the Ukraine as we speak

[@IvanKCM]

@@getgle you know russian people don't have a say in what their president wants to do with his army right? I'm not saying they are right, but the average russian didn't want to go to war.

[@bitchesihate]

@@getgle knob behavior

[@Glitchmouse2]

Thats not the worse, DATAE TOOK BEATRUN’s ANIMATION STRAIGHT FROM MIRROR EDGE. DUDE, THATS SOME HUGE COPYRIGHT

[@jeweleanbrown9951]

It should be bc it has to be criminal to steal work and get paid off of it

[@Skeebins]

"m9k weapons is well over a decade old at this point" You Just absolutely made this man in his early 20's feel like a senior citizen. God Speed and God Bless Young Man. Good Lord.

[@ajaxab7931]

Gmod really was a hell of a thing wasnt it, ANY DarkRP would give mw2 lobbies a run for their money any day.

[@Ayahuasca98]

I hate growing up..

[@Omabatfartsbruh]

this guy makes nintendo seem humane in comparison

[@mentosvagabond]

He's still trying to come to a friendship ending with people who pirate his hard work, all the way until they just turn on his offer and calling him n word... If this is Nintendo, pretty sure the pirate guy gonna pay million legal fee and his new born son.

[@ivancar555]

@@mentosvagabond Calling him a N word lover was definitely the final straw, wrongthink is unforgivable.

[@pnowy1146]

@@ivancar555 and that makes it ok to ban an entire region and then leak hundreds of ips?

[@ivancar555]

@@pnowy1146 Of course not, I was being sarcastic if you didn't notice.

[@tsu08761e]

@@ivancar555 🤓

[@Automaton_unit]

Amagine having to pay a gmod addon

[@Automaton_unit]

@Gorbo **shocked noises**

[@qwertyqwerty-dr4ni]

You don't have to.

[@DedlyAidan]

remember kids, it's always morally correct to pirate things, poor people deserve entertainment too

[@there_are_bugs_under_your_skin]

culture should not exist only for those who can afford it. Quoted from Hakita, creator of ULTRAKILL, replying to a tweet of someone pirating said game.

[@elwen8525]

The least xenophobic Chinese man

[@PouLS]

Ironic.

[@AR15andGOD]

they have "no blacks!" signs outside shops in china

[@ye11owman29]

kinda based tbh

[@btfo420]

@@ye11owman29shit based

[@SpookyMySharpie]

Hes actually french, which makes it worse

[@derpymcderpster5526]

Pretty sure it's illegal to make paid addons for Gmod. (Or any game that utilizes the Steam Workshop) I swear I heard this from somewhere.

[@endless_sands]

"It is up to the modders to decide if they feel their 'product" is worth a price and it is up to the consumer to decide if it is worth that price" - Garry newman, the fucking maker of gmod. Also if the stuff your releasing is high quality (like datae's stuff was) then you should be free to get paid for your hard work. Yet people still cant wrap their heads around why pirating an addon makes you a loser.

[@FoxiteClipChannel]

@@endless_sands IDK, people saving money does not sound like losing does it....

[@endless_sands]

If you need to save money to buy it, then just don't fucking buy it. It's literally not necessary at all. Yet people would rather steal it like some dogshit losers.

[@MirrorHall_Clay]

​@@endless_sands idk about you, but I'd rather not pay more for a fairly niche addon than the game it's for costs.

[@endless_sands]

@@MirrorHall_Clay then don't use the fucking addon.

[@Skullduggery419]

careful you dont split yourself in half sitting on the fence that hard

[@JennyTheNerdBat]

He's just explaining the events though. He's not obliged to take a side.

[@Peckle_]

@@JennyTheNerdBat god i hate ruskies😈

[@Genericuser2]

yeah he need to be extra careful

[@CIOTECHSFX]

​@@JennyTheNerdBat he's not just remaining neutral though, he is defending the mod creator for malicious activity

[@cj-3810]

@@CIOTECHSFX Well when you look at something in an unbiased ways; you have to try to understand and somewhat justify why the creator or person would do this. It’s not like he’s a sympathizer for the cause, it’s a matter general not being an asshole syndrome.

[@dascj4042]

The fact that he's charging for it make it morally right to pirate it. Fuck paying for mods, especially if it's literally just a mirrors edge mod.

[@luhvmelody]

Well, it's somewhat understandable if the animation is well made as well as the coding.

[@UGCLOUNGER]

Animations aren't his, he just stole them.​@@luhvmelody

[@Ahmadabdal_]

@@luhvmelodythe animations are assets stolen from mirror’s edge and are owned by EA. He literally pirated those animations and is selling them 💀☠️

[@luhvmelody]

@@Ahmadabdal_ The comment was made before I knew

[@littlehorn0063]

Heard about it a while ago, thought nothing of it. Just learned that dat. is chinese. Now all of this makes a lot of sense. "And besides, 10USD is a small price to pay", yeah, if your currency is close enough to USD (regional prices are a great thing if used well) and if you can even make a transaction at all. And it's a mod of all things. Not even an official add-on or something close to it. Mods are free by definition. Glad people still understand that.

[@theminecraft4202]

i agree with the price/purchasing problem, which is why mainly russians were pirating it. but "mods are not free by definition" is just not true, there are plenty of paid mods, and once enough work has been put into a mod, yeah, maybe the creator should want to make some sort of money from it.

[@erieriderschillingcorner1595]

@@JShieldmate Black Mesa is not a mod. Black Mesa is a game made on source engine. Maybe the old versions were basically a mod but those were free as far as i remember.

[@Fanboy-hf1iu]

That's the thing. The Black Meda developers choose to release the mod for free. They had every right not to make it free if they wanted considering the amount of work that went into it

[@Smirving]

İ agree 10 dollars is a lot where i live

[@yusuf513]

10 dollars is very expensive here

[@ardentparagon159]

He made the addon require a patreon sub to use a service not avaliavle in russia, so people literally unable to pay for it stole it he then punished those people for daring to exist in russia by doxxing them. Most sane gmod addon developer

[@snakebot4986]

the worst part is that it is literally just mirror's edge, a game that goes on sale for like 5 dollars and he has the audacity to make people pay basically a sub fee for it

[@sambull2621]

Bruh, stealing is the point. I wasn’t on datae’s side when they decided to charge for their mod.

[@Valtr606]

Nah that guy is unhinged not only hes charging for mirrors edge animations but hes also doxxing people that cannot afford it💀💀

[@SarajevoShotz]

let's be real, the russians probably pirated mirror's edge too

[@Zwyrx_Hgqfyggz]

Honestly paywalling a user made addom for a game whose whole purpose and modding scene is to create the most vast and diverse sandbox for everyone was the real issue. Greed strikes again.

[@jp4_]

The "backdoor" in beatrun is actually just telemetry that is seen in every version, even the licensed ones. It just checked if you were in a early access group and if you weren't it posted the logged info on the website, so there's NO SPECIFICALLY BACKDOORED VERSION THAT WAS EVER POSTED ON FORUMS, everything was grabbed from the official sources with the help of people that bought it. Also that russian guy said what he said only because datae is a proud slur user and seemed to have used it too much, causing the russian guy to make a joke of his excessive use of the n-word. All the best or whatever, The guy that actually did the cracking (but wasn't responsible for distributing and talking with datae).

[@zusty9589]

Why should anyone believe a TF2 hacker and troll? )) You also claim to have been involved in distribution in this very comment section. Would like to see someone else's review of the addon contents though.

[@jp4_]

@@zusty9589why would anyone believe you, a person that had nothing to do with the whole situation?

[@zusty9589]

@@jp4_ Believe what? I'm not telling any story based on claims of personal experience, nor am I the one at least teetering on the edge of contradicting their own narrative even here. You're the one making claims of personal involvement while being denigrated in trustworthiness by your own person, whatever is true, and whatever I may otherwise assert without claiming such closeness in experience, or perpetration of an act.

[@jp4_]

i'm merely making fun of your flawed logic that a person who "cheats and trolls" in tf2 can't be trusted, even though i had direct involvement with the whole drama. i stand to gain nothing by lying, since i clearly do not care about internet reputation. i am not contradicting myself either, because i'm truthful with the fact that i started distributing the cracked version myself AFTER the drama went down. in my comment i mentioned distributing and talking with datae only to distinguish myself from the russian guy who was talked about in the video. your ego makes me laugh, because you didn't experience any of the drama firsthand and only watched a random dudes video with inaccurate depiction of the story, yet you have the balls to call me a liar and not trustworthy. grow up.

[@MTB396]

@@zusty9589 i believe him, i've done enough research and what he's saying is true.

[@CZ-PC]

The tone of this video was far to apologetic for my liking.

[@Roy.R.]

yea, its genuinely sad to read people defending him, their arguments are also always the same, such as: "piracy bad, you deserve dox" "when has leaking ips ever caused anything bad?" (these ones did 0 research) and, the most annoying "sounds like you're just broke"

[@robuxyyyyyyyyyy4708]

9:06 Because they literally couldn't, and as Gaben said people pirate when the other options are too hard

[@drstrangelove307]

Yea but you don’t just respond calling someone an “N-word lover” after they give you the benefit of the doubt.

[@conclusivestate]

@@drstrangelove307 Judging by how some of the comments in this video claim that Datae might be just as an asshole, I would take his statement about being called a "n-word lover" with a grain of salt.

[@jeffboy4231]

@@conclusivestate honestly thinking that the russian dude actually said n-word lover, but meaning that datae loves using the n-word lol

[@OperatorMax1993]

​@@jeffboy4231 that's what I thought too lol

[@yourmother1631]

@@conclusivestate Datae is an asshole its a mod bro why make it cost money in the first place, that would be illegal in the US its called overcharge especially if its only takes some lua scripting with out money to make it.

[@ВладБазин-ъ3ш]

9:07 It's me hahahahaha. I was very angry at the time and didn't quite understand the situation, but from Datae I definitely won't be downloading anything else. For me personally, he ruined his reputation.

[@metalgear6531]

There's a reason I play Gmod solo, with friends I trust, or not at all.

[@Nahobussyino]

Gmod singleplayer hits different

[@ifeelsosigma99]

​@@Nahobussyinokissing dat figure (real) (GONE SEXUAL) (3AM)

[@valightningthief]

Hot take - mods of any kind should not be paid If you wanna be paid make your own game. This guy's not even been creative. He's literally just taken the movement from mirrors edge and put it in source 2. Sure it may be one 10.50 purchase...but imagine if all oof the popular and unique mods do that. Suddenly Garry's mood goes from £6 to over a £100 game and you have...10 mods :/

[@Cheezy_Bunz]

Yea but you don’t have to buy mods so its not a 100 dollar game. It can be fun without dropping a single dime on it. Tbh I think 10 bucks for a singular mod is crazy considering modding is known for being free. I think you should be allowed to sell something you worked hard on. An agreeable price should be anywhere from .50 cents to 5 dollars.

[@doctornsilver3882]

No matter the reason, no matter how justified it is and no matter how much you want to protect your stuff, the moment you put malicious code into your creation, and the moment you steal ips using YOUR OWN MOD, is the moment you loose any semblance of trust in the community, at least in my eyes. I dont care how many times they may say otherwise, I am not buying this addon, just because of the simple fact that they're capable of something like this. (Not that i ever was, mind you. Just buy mirrora edge at that point, lol)

[@Swattii]

How I see it, it's pretty much fighting fire with fire. Thankfully I am not THAT invested into trying out GMOD addons, lmao.

[@AlphaCarinae]

Who cares lol. Maybe don't steal

[@AbcIHateYou3]

You do, apparently @@AlphaCarinae

[@kiba_the_lucky]

playing for gmod addons.... yeah no thanks todd howard

[@kiba_the_lucky]

oh holy shit he's a psychopath what the hell

[@Ahmadabdal_]

@@kiba_the_luckyhey at least Todd Howard didn’t make a list of people he doxxed who pirated his mods

[@SimonStrange]

10:33 "Look, maybe it's wrong to dox people you don't like (...)" Uh, yeah? I'm not even Russian, but wtf. And using the excuse that, "DUDE, ALL WEBSITES LOG YOUR IP, SO THIS IS TOTALLY OKAY!" is BS considering they don't publicly post your IP.

[@4dimensionalcat]

You forgot to mention datae including an image of a trans caricature being hanged and a reference to the Holocaust directly above the list of addresses. I think literally comparing him to Batman is sort of a dick move, also. And the whole "ok sure it MAAAAYBE was kinda bad but it was FUNNY RIGHT GUYS???????" spiel speaks for itself.

[@Peter_Turbo4]

Datae is a Troon himself.

[@Mentallyheld]

dont wanna be that guy but source

[@4zy1]

was it an actual image or some wojak?

[@shadowyyCFH]

@@4zy1 there isnt ive been on the page before and there's never been pictures like that

[@linkisntpink5897]

-ACK

[@blobbem]

I like some of Datae's stuff on the Workshop, and I can understand wanting financial support for developing mods (Patreon as a kind of donation/tip jar would've been a neat idea), but that's totally insane to attempt to region block your mod because of a bunch of pirates, even if one of the pirates was a downright plonker. Doxxing them is even more insane.

[@FREECIVVIE]

Not to mention, an entire region who are literally unable to purchase your mod due to patreon unavailability

[@mint5438]

Completely agree. If you make something well enough, there will be people who will happily support you. Pay-walling has never made anyone go "Yeah, I'm more likely to give to them." I'd want people to give me money because they enjoy what I make, not because it's they only way they can access it. But hey, I don't sell what I make so maybe it's different 🤷

[@dessirangelova2676]

​@@FREECIVVIE and because eastern european currencies suck

[@malekisweird1403]

I disagree, I think his actions are justified. He created the mod so he's aware of the financial consequence of region banning and he's willing to take it. And as for doxxing the criminals, they should be thankful they didn't get jail time. All he's doing is defending his digital property from immoral redistribution. There's literally nothing wrong I can see about that.

[@dessirangelova2676]

@@malekisweird1403 come live here almost no one can afford that sh*tty addon there are addons 5000 times better then that that are free the damn mod costs more then the game and it only adds some parkour mechanics he wasnt right in making cost 10usd in the first place overpriced as hell

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

As a modder, mods should be free and payment voluntary. This guy deserved to have his shit prirated.

[@militaristica]

why do you act like you have any say about other people's work?

[@TimberWulfIsHere]

@@militaristica because it's not work ya dweeb

[@itsjustkriswastaken]

​@@militaristicaDateaDrone

[@elektofighter898]

A mod that modifies a game that is not yours, uses assets that are not yours, and is a idea that is not yours should not be paid

[@TheOfficialSmudgee]

Agree

[@ramipro8309]

​@@TheOfficialSmudgeeYes

[@CrustyFox87]

Exactly

[@fusix92]

So, in order to get people to pay money for his mod, worth more than the base game it's actually in, he injected malware into it and attempted to leak the private information of dozens of people He didn't stop piracy, he just tainted his own name even more

[@AR15.666]

Datæ is literally the type of person mothers warn their kids about.

[@carterchadwell3816]

why didn't facepunch dmca him after he got so infamous selling a mod

[@Peter_Turbo4]

EA could DMCA him for using the Mirror’s Edge movement system without their consent.

[@Fanboy-hf1iu]

you can't copyright the concept of first person parkour

[@Peter_Turbo4]

@@Fanboy-hf1iu No, but you can copyright a game engine. He ported one of EA’s game engines into Gmod.

[@electricdazz]

@@Fanboy-hf1iu Aren't the animations copyrighted? Most likely datae just ripped them straight from Mirror's Edge Catalyst

[@hi-i-am-atan]

@@Peter_Turbo4 somehow, i have my doubts he included the entirety of mirror's edge physics and movement code, then used gmod's lua scripting to override every facet of the source engine equivalents with it ( which, y'know, requires running the code _outside_ of the lua vm, because ... mirror's edge was coded in c++. not lua ) and, somehow, managed to do that without performance and _especially_ netplay taking a massive hit due to major parts of the main game loop being forced through the most inelegant porting method ever

[@monky6976]

Bro is not a vigilante 💀

[@ApocalypseMoose]

The absolute fucking *GALL* to complain about people stealing your content without paying, when the majority of Beatrun is literally taken from Mirror's Edge. Given how money-hungry EA is, I'm shocked they haven't considered legal action.

[@militaristica]

it's not stolen???? he literally had to remake everything from the ground up

[@totallynoteverything1.]

the best way to stop pirates is to just release it

[@eliteguard225]

>Chinese modder All you need to know.

[@MUSiCK9]

Mods in its nature should be free so I get people distaste for paid mods, getting into a niches thats usually free only to try to sell to them is actually annoying and a very bethesda thing to do

[@bananadog111]

10$ for anyone in eastern europe is a lot, its like paying 50-100$ for a mod if you are from the us

[@gangbangedd]

900 rub, families in affluence live on that money a day, and the random modder from gmod telling that pirating his 10$ mod is a shame

[@yoboikamil525]

10 USD in poland is like 40zł which is enough to buy dinner for like two days

[@segarallychampionship702]

Datae is in the wrong here. I relate more to the pirates, honestly. In post-soviet countries (I'm from post-communist Central Europe so my experience may be slightly different), the modding communities are entirely different, paid mods have never been popular, and people who had released a paid mod had faced backlash. There are paid mods, for example for train simulators, but these are one-person passion project that they have worked on for years, possibly decades at this point and they may not be of the highest quality standards, but they are vast and, above all, come as a complete package. Czech/Slovak BP route for MSTS is an example. Outside of that, however, most standalone mods are free. Maps, vehicles, objects, scripts, even if they are of higher quality that what can be received with a paid addon, they're still free. So I don't get the point of releasing what is *essentially only a movement script + animations mod* as paid, and neither would a lot of people in similar countries. As someone else has mentioned here, a lot of people that pirate games or mods here are in many cases kids and teenagers. They often don't have bank accounts, so international and/or online payments are out of the question, unless the seller happens to support PaySafeCards. Besides, I wouldn't trust software from a person who has previously released malware. And that list also includes their country and Steam account name, not to mention it was all unconsensual (which I get is the point of spyware, but still). In the showcase of the list you showed are also people from the Philippines or South American countries, so I assume the whole "ban the entirety of EE from accessing my mod" was not that effective, but I'm nitpicking.

[@FranzJx]

0:42 BMW MENTIONED

[@yoboikamil525]

franzj presenrts

[@scrumpyscrumpy]

indeed

[@Blind_Hawk]

The fact that ratlobber had a clip of Terry Davis (a deranged but genius programmer) running in the ending scene was perfect.

[@DonatUnterberger]

"Information about how to pirate beatrun pretty much doesn't exist anymore" this phrase sounds 10x funnier for me considering i just googled "beatrun" and as a first result got a site to download it for free complete with a wall of shame containing screenshots of datæ being a dick and it's a russian domain, of course

[@MTB396]

based

[@MTB396]

@@Matt_19-89 it is safe, been using it for a while, since the drm is basically no more, now the mod can run purely on LUA. There are dlls for steam or discord presence, but it's definitely optional, and doesn't contain anything malicious. Even most people there are pretty nice and civil. Speaking from experience. Can't say the same for the people in the official beatrun server though. Some poor kid somehow got his password account leaked by the people there just because he wants to ask beatrun for free.

[@MTB396]

@@Matt_19-89 i'd say the github one, since it has frequent updates than the official version.

[@антипод-л7ю]

it still is the first result lmao

[@asinski324]

Fuckin hell im not paying 10 bucks for like 5mb of code

[@ryszakowy]

someone sacrificed 10 bucks got the files extracted that .gma shit packed it into a zip and thing still flies around the internet malware free

[@asinski324]

@@ryszakowy Yea, sounds like something I'd do if I had the money

[@fantastikboom1094]

@@ryszakowy Probably it has the protection in it, so we also need to modify it.

[@qwertyqwerty-dr4ni]

@@ryszakowy It says in the video that it has DRM, so it's 99% obfuscated.

[@CNSabata]

I remember watching beatrun videos on datæ's KZbin, but I didn't even know the name of the addon nor that it was released. I honestly would have tried it or heck even paid the premium if I never happened to know that story. Now I'm just going to not try it. Some made a really good point too, but some gmod players are literally just kids. Point is, dude literally banned the entirety of eastern europe from playing and leaked IPs and SteamIDs over 3 friggin roll animations and a double kick he literally took from DICE lmao I hope his addon keeps getting pirated tbh, cry about it datæ

[@fantastikboom1094]

I with his addon would be banned lol

[@cyrussilver8230]

Valve banned that dude who made a(free) mod for cities skylines that pulls updates from github, just due to a POSSIBILITY of malicious intent, and here you are trying to defend a dev who directly sells his mod and clearly has had a malicious intent. What a take. What a joke.

[@thenextgeneration9030]

if russians knew how to behave datae would not have had to go that far. not his fault

[@Burgerplants]

*Funny thing is there is No "Infected" version per se. It collects data no matter the Version. Its just posts its public if it doesnt register you as a player who bought it.*

[@Damian-cilr2]

Well have you checked if the drm is also in the paid version? Wouldn't be surprised.

[@disposable_income_andy]

a year late, but this guy shares practices with the nazi roleplay servers that are so infamous, at least one of them anyway. there were paid perks, and if you bought one and EVER refunded it for any reason, the owner would dox you and put your address and billing info up on his website and hold it for ransom until you gave back the amount you refunded.

[@asteroidrules]

A very interesting saga, gmod modders have a bit of a history of going crazy. Also a slight nitpick, the word Cyrillic is pronounced more like sir-illick, the c is soft and the y is pronounced as a short i.

[@ratlobber]

i always get at least one word wrong every video

[@Peter_Turbo4]

@@ratlobber You’re only Human after all

[@PouLS]

@@ratlobber That's a true American 🇱🇷💪

[@izzym9728]

10:26 No, he is actually like to harm others who not in his community and doesn't pays him. And out of his community borned a *hamster* joke, after he banned my 2nd account for "Calling him hamster".

[@UnLuckyToo]

He is The Joker, not even batman.

[@sbh_tx]

I was on Dataes side in the video until he started logging people's IPs and posting them publically thats just fucked up man

[@schizoposting9593]

I am the opposite lol. I hate paid mods but when the guy went nuclear i started to respect him.

[@ryszakowy]

@@schizoposting9593 you just want to watch the world burn

[@jonnysilverhand2227]

​@@schizoposting9593 sanest 4channer

[@Damian-cilr2]

@@schizoposting9593 seems like you just want to see the world burn.I mean thats not neccessairly a bad thing (unless burn it literally) humanity is fucking garbage,literally basically nobody cares about the planet

[@fantastikboom1094]

@@schizoposting9593 Lol that's actually funny

[@Garlic_Bread69]

"despite the low pricetag-" gmod literally being cheaper then the mod:

[@MaidofRage420]

Personally for me realism add ons are the creative black hole of any modding or workshop environment. It completely sours it for me but to each their own

[@lollikabosso.w.n7153]

I think personaly they are unnecessary. Realism in games is something that will always be toped by next big game, and theres no nuance to it. Realism on its own sucks, and if someone wants a cool parkour game, Super Mario Oddyssey exists. Honestly, the realism part is what boggles me even more, specialy to parkour. Like, just go outside then and work your ass. Dont play gmod

[@Tornados1oh1]

Honestly I just like the Source engine's overall feel, it just adds to Gmod's perfect mix of realism, simplicity, and creativity

[@Artman2004]

Most weapon mods for Gmod nowadays are just a bunch of realistic guns that all act the same, which is a shame. What happened to all the weird, wacky stuff?

[@crusaderiii477]

​@@Artman2004ARCCW weapons nowadays are still fun and you can make some cursed combinations while ARC9 lets you violate the NFA with impeccable precision, MW:2019 base is probably the most guilty of this whole realism thing but it's a bunch of guns ripped from a COD game.

[@PixelNova]

Honestly a shame. I remember watching some videos of people playing with this mod, seeing that it was paywalled and still thinking that I would pick it up because it was so cool. Unfortunately I honestly can't trust running something made by a developer who's shown they're ready and willing to backdoor their software. Also while I was very willing to pay for the mod, I honestly think if they wanted to charge that much for a mod of a paid game (More than what the game itself cost.) and as I have read in the comments have control over how the mod is played, they should have just made their own original Parkour game rather than a mod. Probably would have been quite successful too.

[@mint5438]

Just give people the option to donate if you want money. Putting stuff behind paywalls is quite the opposite of endearing.

[@Bacony_Cakes]

Putting stuff behind paywalls is how you get the Trainz modding community. [stinky foghorn]

[@vik8218]

@@Bacony_Cakes Trainz is a shithole anyways. I’ve been in the community for 5-6 years and it’s riddled with the most egotistical people ever.

[@Damian-cilr2]

@@Bacony_Cakes yeah...

[@jerryp.927]

Bro literally had a golden ticket of just banning the mfs using the honeypot version and still managed to fuck it up, jfc

[@Alekkek]

“The closest thing the internet has to the hood” I’m fucking crying

[@hoxton5790]

My guy clearly never heard of the “rape swep”