GNER Eurostars, Peterborough 18/09/2002

Edited as much for sound as for vision!

[@SiVlog1989]

No other electric train sounds as awesome as a 373, makes my hair stand up :)

[@DawudBadrud-Din]

sbaker190189 '; Absolute beast & beauty she is

[@RetardedBunny]

They are awesome but say bye to them :(

[@SiVlog1989]

what do you think of the GNER livery, simple but effective :)

[@sprinterofficial8457]

class 323 - Hold my beer

[@glitch4465]

These would of been perfect for the ECML 155mph on normal routes 186 on a few new allignments.

[@wouldjubileeveit3646]

i love the eurostar, it sounds fantastic!!

[@BritishGentlemen]

Thanks, I was on the Eurostar from London to Paris back in 2005. I have to say it was one of the best experiences of my life. Thanks for the info.

[@chrisr19897]

These trains were simply the best. When they ran on the East Coast Mainline they certainly eased preassure on other services and also the issue of the lack of seats. I was lucky enough to be invited into the drivers cab - its very cramped I have to say!

[@ZENESTASCNE954321801]

WOW! I'll never see this before. How changeable repaint for links GNER Service from! Cool to vid.

[@wellowvids]

Thanks!

[@wellowvids]

That would probably apply to most of the States wouldn't it? On my various travels in the USA in the last 10 years or so, albeit mainly searching out wildlife, I think I've only seen two or three passenger trains amongst a load of freight movements. One in the Miami area and one near Salt Lake City certainly come to mind but these were both short distant hauls.

[@edwardmortimer2150]

This is amazing quality for the time, I mean it's almost as old as me!

[@soundseeker63]

I went on one of these once, I think it was 2001 ish. It was in GNER livery but the interior was still eurostar yellow and grey. It was a very quiet and comfortable train. Shame we dont see them round here anymore.

[@jameo20]

Thanks for the info!!!

[@SonicbusterX2000]

I like the livery on the Eurostar. Looks good.

[@banjokitten]

From the angle of when the first one you filmed arrived at Peteborough, it's easy to see why the doors were painted red - the are very camouflaged!

[@jontownsend6451]

Having ridden on these back in the 2000's they looked great, and still do. Now several sets are being scrapped, i would've engineered the locos with new traction equipment which is a bit more savvy on power and used them on the ECML again. To my knowledge the route is cleared as far as Newcastle and Leeds for these 373s. I would also run them has half sets, just as the NOL sets were designed for.

[@randolphclarke4674]

jon townsend they can go to Bradford too

[@cyberknue1598]

I really wish these were still running!

[@RetardedBunny]

They are just on the 1st Pancras to Paris route but they are getting scrapped

[@EssexWolf1993]

Here are some possibilties. The pantographs were for high speed line use which the wireing on the ECML was loose so the trains were only limited to 110mph to avoid overloading the overhead electric lines supplies. On the London to York and Leeds services, the door opening and closing times took longer than the Intercity 225s. the reason why the GNER Eurostars were limited between London to York and Leeds was because of the long platforms and also the speed restriction.

[@wellowvids]

Danke!!

[@HSTsteven]

No these were introduced initially to york, however there french pantographs at speeds over 110 would bring the cheap OLE down, it was later found south of Grantham they could do 125, so limited to 110 HSTs and 225s could beat them, so GNER got more HSTs

[@wellowvids]

Thanks Howard

[@HotAxleBox]

Talk about seized calipers! They haven't been scrapped, they are currently in France and the contract was renewed this year quite recently.

[@williamradford8817]

Class 373 in G N E R livery, with four standard class coaches at the back and front of the train, a Euro Star has five standard class coaches at the front and back

[@wellowvids]

Sure - but this is how most enthusiasts referred to them!

[@railandmodel]

They 1st worked to York & later they ran them to Leeds.If you want more proof my Girlfriends dad worked for GNER on one of the stations on the ECML as a station platform supervisor.He once told me that one of these sets got vandalised with graffiti.So they ran one set for a bit half in Eurostar livery & the other half in GNER livery.If you want i do have some photo's of a GNER livered Eurostar at York which I could scan & send to you.Cheers.

[@newdecade]

Makes you wonder what our railways could have been like with some proper investment over the last 30 years... Love the standing start noise, a bit beefier than the 91 vaccuum cleaner noise

[@HSTsteven]

No when they were first introduced they ran to york, i know because i went on one specially, it lest Kings Cross at 1230 one of the. but after a while leeds was decided as a better terminus because of platform lengths, and linespeeds after doncaster are that of 110 (the white roses top speed) not 125

[@soundseeker63]

Back in France and on the eurotunnel. Nice as they were it was a bit of a waste of the train's capabilities running them on the ECML, especially as they were restricted to 110mph, where even the regular class 91s are 125mph running.

[@acesigma06]

yes Walrus was right they were called the "White Rose" this was the official name for them used at GNER. And HSTsteven is also correct, originally the White Rose services ran to York, but after the extension of Leeds station they were able to accomadate these longer trains, so they ran to leeds until there demise i know because i worked for the company when they went to both York & Leeds

[@apbrit2009]

hey, be grateful for what you have, here in california the top rail speed is under 70 mph, passenger trains share tracks with freight, and those tracks were poorly constructed and are poorly maintained

[@pendolinokriscfc]

Great video. Never saw any personally as I live on the WCML. Nice to see them in GNER colours, the Eurostar grey is such a boring livery. Nice Vid!

[@neok6000]

I miss the Eurostars on this line

[@THEFINALHAZARD]

I wouldn't have minded seeing the 91's replaced by these(Mind you I like 91's too), but they'd have to give the 373's here the 91's horn :)

[@1258-Eckhart]

you have really good video quality and interesting subject matter so i have awarded 5* :-)

[@wellowvids]

They didn't own them - they leased them. I think that the routes they covered have already been discussed in other comments.

[@wellowvids]

There's talk, or has it progressed further than that, of a north-south high speed line in California isn't there?

[@wellowvids]

'nuff said!

[@movieman162]

Its not actually called a GNER Eurostar because Eurostar is the name of the company not the train its actually called a GNER class 373

[@Cpr1234]

It was sometimes referred to as Eurostar Regionals, because their GNER services to Leeds are fairly short compared to the 186mph trips to Paris

[@mcmotor101]

im surprised the 373s even fit on the platforms at peterborugh!

[@soundseeker63]

I think they looked much nicer in this livery than they do in Eurostar livery. Shame they didn't wear it for longer.

[@HSTHoward]

gner eurostar my fav of the gner fleet 5/5

[@Pug_990]

never seen that eurostar before

[@brchtr002]

I would've loved to see them invading France or Belgium in that livery

[@apbrit2009]

funding has been approved for that, and it is currently in planning, but they won't start work on it until 2011, it won't be done until at least 2020, our state government is extremely inept, especially when it comes to public transport, and the proposed system is something this state should have had years ago

[@36blackout]

No. GNER was shutdown in 2007 so im guessing all Class 373's went to Eurostar

[@glitch4465]

@Marcomanseckisax They could go a little faster if they upgraded a bit of infrastructure

[@Stirlingshire43110]

Because Eurostar (who hired them out to GNER in the first place) wanted them Back

[@PlaneTrainAmbulance]

Since when did GNER own eurostars and where did they go from and to?

[@pure4indigo]

What's happened to the GNER 'eurostar' fleet?

[@DanTheCaptain]

As I am aware these are used also by Eurostar I have a few questions. How fast do they allow these trains to go? What routes did they operate?

[@SiVlog1989]

When they were leased to GNER they were used to enhance their London to York, latterly Leeds, services. On the ECML they were restricted to 110mph Max. This apparently was because of problems between the pantographs and the overhead catenary. When the lease ended the GNER 373's were transferred to the French state railway SNCF, which is where you'd find these particular trains today. These GNER sets were designated 373/3's and unlike the 373's that operate the services to and from Paris and Brussels, which have 18 coaches and 2 power cars, these had 14 coaches and 2 power cars.

[@Hannah_taylor1237]

never new that

[@wellowvids]

What's the point of your ending comment?

[@MrZkr123]

what happened to these did they get scrapped?

[@awesometrainsandbuses]

Some got moved onto the original eurostars that go from St Pancras international to Paris gare du nord

[@EastMidlandsVideography]

@MrZkr123 they went to eurostar

[@BritishGentlemen]

What a beautiful train, where are they these days?

[@voidjavelin23]

their operations are mostly on eurostar

[@TheBrett56]

@edj66 on train simulator the 91 did 175mph flat out

[@2obsessivecompulsive]

Good vid,do we still build trins in this country?

[@voidjavelin23]

The good ol UK of course!

[@MaartenOtto]

There are NO TGV types featuring "tilt" technology.

[@MrZkr123]

maybe now that there are more electrified lines, and higher speeds, maybe they will take the older Eurostars, and put them on the other lines now since they are going to replace them with Siemens ICE technology like trains.

[@voidjavelin23]

Now they withdrawn them and moved to eurostar

[@MrZkr123]

@yamhamdan The Eurostar looks more like the US train the Acela

[@CurvedGD]

The Acela looks like a messed up TGV with issues

[@jameo20]

Why were they withdrawn?

[@voidjavelin23]

too OP

[@5029tom]

what happaned to them

[@voidjavelin23]

Theyre widrawned

[@mauricebear6238]

Your wrong they only ever worked KX to Leeds

[@MrBubba59]

Great trains. Rather than replace them with electric locos and stock the UK re-engined 30 year old deisels!

[@LennoxAlexanderFrancisJr]

What's GNER?

[@voidjavelin23]

The bri ish great northeasthern railway

[@clarky2356]

Sounds like they got diesel engines

[@deanbean111]

@Mrzkr123 Eurostars will eat the electric out of the OHLE's :)

[@badboiant29]

did gner operate to france?

[@voidjavelin23]

They only operate them on london to leeds sadly

[@Cactus732]

because running them on the ECML is a waste of their potential, they cannot go anywhere near their top speed

[@aflyingchapati4395]

The panto just look wrong

[@voidjavelin23]

It looks normal

[@brchtr002]

honestly samjohnson, buy yourself a one-way ticket to the moon. There's propably no internet, and you know wha samjohnson? Humanity wouldn't feel sorry for you

[@apbrit2009]

yeah, the whole rail system in this country is shit, except in the northeast corridor

[@wellowvids]

I think that's the most pathetic comment I've yet to see on KZbin -go and get a life elsewhere!