WTH!!! Duckbill mag won't fit SKS wood stock. Chinese, Russian, Yugo. Magazine

Of the Baur Arms, Promag, Tapco, Archangel and Triple K Duckbill mags, only one fit all three of my woods without fixing. Your mileage may vary.
The duckbill should be inserted smoothly if not, it could bind the feeding lips out of shape, resulting in misfeeds. Therefore, my Russian and Yugo woods require a bit of filing.
Sorry, I can't show you how to file or shave inside of the mag well because KZbin will demonetize the video.
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[@goosejohnson3197]

I thought I recognized the CPS... Canadian Pin of Shame. Thank you for the review. Contemplating trying out a magazine mod on my late 50s Russians.

[@gnutzguy]

Yup, the liberal government is planning to do away with the CPS by banning all high cap mags, 😞

[@BaconSlayer69]

@@gnutzguythese are standard capacity magazines high capacity is 40 and more

[@gnutzguy]

@@BaconSlayer69 nope, 20 and more. You can guess by looking at the length.

[@BaconSlayer69]

@@gnutzguy standard capacity for most semi automatic rifles is 30 rounds dude 😅20 to 30

[@LeeThule]

Intersesting test. On a Tulla 1951 I found that I always had to shave down edges of the mag to make plastic mags fit the reciever. Because of that I never tried metal replacement SKS mags.

[@gnutzguy]

like i said rifle variation from year to year and from factory to factory. thats why most people who mod the mag experience issue with the mags cos the plastic is rather thin to begin with. please watch my range test vid

[@duncanclarke8028]

Thanks big time for this video. I have a Chinese Sks and recently bought the archangel LVX20 mag. I was super disappointed that it didn’t for the Chinese model. Especially since I was assured by retailer that it would. Well with 20 file strokes on back of mag it fits snug. Thanks so much! You saved my wallet and spared me some major headaches. 👍

[@gnutzguy]

ya welcome. assurance from retailer? well, some knows nothing or just sales to them. lol

[@Nicolas-lo8db]

​@@gnutzguywhere is that video?

[@gnutzguy]

@@Nicolas-lo8db this vid? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZrRm3WgmaprqdE

[@TheGeo793]

Thanks for the very helpful video! SKS is a very beautiful and reliable carbine.

[@gnutzguy]

You bet!

[@johnscreekmark]

Dremel out the magwell in the Chnese and the Tapco fits perfectly. I wouldn't butcher a Russian for a removable mag.

[@gnutzguy]

it depends, some unmatching BBQ russians are not worth saving.

[@kaylamarie8309]

I did the bolt mod, some fitting etc , the mags all fit great. I have promag and tapco mags. The fitment is great but the bullets will not feed. They jam into the lower part of the receiver and do not get into the chamber.

[@BrazeauOutdoors]

My steel mag fits in the original wood stock but not the fab defense stock 🤔

[@gnutzguy]

yup, metal is skinnier. strange about Fab.

[@BrazeauOutdoors]

@@gnutzguy it seems like it's way too loose in the fab defense stock

[@Paul-qf2hm]

Thanks, shaved stock in mag area as per your utube vedio and pro mag 5 shot clip. Fit right in. Easy to do

[@wafflestomper6958]

I barely did any filing, it was mostly cleaning out congealed cosmoline and it went in no problem, original internal mag still fits snug. I think mines a pro mag. Not sure why everyone hates on them, you can still load cartridges from the top.

[@gnutzguy]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZrRm3WgmaprqdE ... they work fine , just not durable.

[@kingryan69]

great video I hope trudope doesnt succeed in banning them

[@Factory_Muff]

They’re already banned in. Canada. They can only have 5 round max pinned mags. Edit: ok, you were talking about the SKS, not the mag. My bad.

[@kingryan69]

@@Factory_Muff yeah its ridiuclous,we already had such ridicuous limitations on our guns now they are trying to steal the guns

[@gnutzguy]

thanks. yup, we need to get rid of the liberals.

[@Factory_Muff]

@@kingryan69 Canada is near and dear to my heart because my wife and her parents and siblings are from/in Ontario so I have vested interest in their rights. I’m upstate New York and we’re not too far behind that tyranny.

[@ogloc6308]

Canada is pretty much done. America soon to follow at this rate

[@markbroad119]

I have a 1969 triangle 26, had to use my Dremel on the sides of the wood

[@gnutzguy]

i used razor blade.

[@bobstupaksvegasworld4098]

Great video. My mags fit but, not buttery smooth. Going to check it out today. Those pinned (?) mags are giving me anxiety though.

[@sarge12212]

Unless you have the now-defunct Texas Weapons SSR mag release on your gun, you may as well trash all BUT the "fancy" Archangel LVX mags. Only way to go, in my option. I had to make room on the stocks where the duckbill fits in. The stocks kept the duckbill from going forward enough. Both the original Norinko stock and an ATI Strikeforce stock, on Norinko SKSs. I also opened up the original non-matching number Chinese stock to flare like an AR mag well. These are straight-up Bubba's, lol.

[@jjjr.1186]

Spectre ballistics makes an ak style magazine release for the SKS. I have one and it works perfectly.

[@TheTexan99]

Get some sand paper & widen the mag well

[@gnutzguy]

box cutter will do.

[@lomparti]

Real question is how do they feed when shooting?

[@gnutzguy]

The answer is in the shooting video you haven't checked. Lol

[@kelseyfabrications6452]

Where is the video???

[@retired1822]

It’s an SKS, if you want an AK by an AK.

[@gnutzguy]

lol. i live in canada and AK are prohibited. you should go pick on an american gun youtuber, lol.

[@retired1822]

😳. If we were restricted, I would be doing the same. Enjoy and I hope you get a good functioning magazine.

[@gnutzguy]

lol. i actually dont use duckbill , i did the vid for my viewers in the US (mostly). in canada we are retricted to only 5 rds in mags, even less reason to use duckbill but still popular.

[@Denver1976Man]

The metal mags work ok. I have wittlled a few of the cheaper plastic ones to run smoothly but they are too much of a pain. I use 1 sks with stripper clips and an sks with 30 rd mags.

[@gnutzguy]

The problem I have with metal mags is failure to feed due to the feeding lips can easily be bent out of shape bcos they are too thin so if I ever dropped them or in this case arrived from the dealer bent. I'm SOL. I've tried bending them back but it got worst so I don't buy after market metal mags.

[@canuckguns]

Have you faced any issues with installing the blue steel pro mag in the jungle stock sks?

[@gnutzguy]

I haven't tried jungle stock but they are meant to be hand file to fit

[@CodyGraham-g6u]

Get a dremel tool or sand paper and widen out the mag well!

[@carllarosa7475]

File down the sharp edges on your Promag and Tapco mags. Locate the side of the duckbill and the sharp edges by the feeder and round those off with a file, and in like 30 sec they fit like a charm on the Chinese SKS.

[@gnutzguy]

thanks for your suggestions

[@ishnifusmeadle]

Interesting. I have a yugo, but only have a promag, a handful of intrafuse and a couple archangels. Luckily they all fit decent,but i prefer the fit of the tapcos/archs most. Obviously they fit better with bolt locked back and now theyre broke in feed great. One thing i did find with the polys is on a couple i needed to sand/shave some plastic flash from the feed lips as it was causing bolt drag n not chambering but now sall good. I do with they offered a steel reinforced feedlip as ive found that they all show signs of the lips starting to crack however so far even the one thats missing a chunk still works fine and suprisingly doesnt drop rounds when you load n drop to shock it, but i dont know if thatll last.

[@gnutzguy]

I liked the polymers too but I would like them better if it came with steel reinforcement feeding lips for durability.

[@nigel900]

Then stick with the 100% reliable 👉🏻 ORIGINAL 10 ROUND MAGAZINE 👈🏻

[@gnutzguy]

correct but some people like to do mag dump and look cool, lol.

[@pistooli1]

@@gnutzguy Children should not be allowed to play with firearms.

[@johntetzler1662]

@@pistooli1 ok boomer

[@ziggyz2958]

​@gnutzguy Here in canada, all mag dumps are 5 rounds. Behold the amazing firepower! 😂

[@gnutzguy]

@@ziggyz2958 lol, perception is important.

[@mrkhristybuy]

I do have a type 56 with 6 archangel mag and they fit like original

[@jamesmachado2258]

That’s crazy I do have a foldable stock but I can’t put any of my mags unless I have the receiver open/ pulled back

[@AL-rh7ih]

That’s just the way the gun is designed, the bolt HAS to be open in order to change duck bill mags

[@gnutzguy]

james: AL is correct , unless you mod the bolt which means you have to grind pieces off.

[@chanceblevins6682]

So you won't spend $150 on a polymer stock. But you'll spend $25-$50 a piece on 7 magazines? 🤔

[@gnutzguy]

Hello???? Poly stocks would be a different review. Btw I have several poly stocks but missing the fab one to begin a review. Those bloody thing cost almost as much as a rifle. 🤬

[@mattmclain1994]

The wood is just what makes the sks the sks rather change the mag over that anytime

[@samsen201]

looks highly Cali legal!

[@gnutzguy]

yup, if its legal in canada then its pretty legal everywhere in the US (with SKS).

[@williamschlosser77]

Don't use them. It's faster to just load the built-in well; either with a strip or loose fed. It's also easier to carry strips or loose rounds than those ducky-thingys because they won't fit into a pouch.

[@gnutzguy]

longer banana mags looks coooool, lol.

[@stellarjay1694]

Not to but in but just wanted to point out, i believe these are still meant to be used with stripper clips, you can just fit three in instead of one, and when you shoot ten you just simply top up the mag as you go. Technically you should be able to carry MUCH more ammo loaded up and ready to fire because you are dealing with a strip of steel that weighs grams instead of a full magazine. Thats how i rock anyways and i van carry more ammo ready to fire than my buddies shooting. 223 loaded into ar15 mags.

[@jahunterplus2809]

Nice video and sks are great

[@gnutzguy]

Yes they are... thanks

[@briandishroon9147]

Common problem. Just file the catch. They tend to be a hair too long to allow it to close and latch.

[@gnutzguy]

thanks for sharing.

[@AmarHallab]

هل صحيح ان عندما تقلب نابض الارجاع في بندقية السيمينوف تصبح ترمي رشاش اريد التاكد من المعلومة من فضلكم 🇩🇿

[@gnutzguy]

لا، ليس صحيحا. يؤدي عكس زنبرك الارتداد إلى فشل التغذية والإخراج la, lays sahihan. yuadiy eaks zinbiruk alairtidad 'iilaa fashal altaghdhiat wal'iikhraj

[@bigbub2118]

Are u trying to fit them with the bolt in the open position?

[@gnutzguy]

bolt???? it doesnt reach the bolt bcos it couldnt pass the wood.

[@bigbub2118]

@gnutzguy I'm just asking because on mine if the bolt is open it will take the mags if not the mags do not fit so I'm trying to see if it's something going on with my gun

[@gnutzguy]

@@bigbub2118 no, yours normal and no issue with the wood. all mags, duckbill or AK mags require the bolt to be in the rear position before you can insert. SKS bolt has extra wide bottom. some people delete (by grinding) the extra width so they can insert without the bolt in the rear position.

[@bigbub2118]

@gnutzguy thank u I appreciate the information

[@markjamison4256]

I have a Chinese sks in excellent condition with a spike bayonet it has light colored wood what is cheapest best and best fitting clip/magazine would you recommend I don’t want to modify any thing on the gun and would like a metal one

[@gnutzguy]

have you check out this vid? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZrRm3WgmaprqdE

[@wazeerijlal1262]

Is it posible to make it to operate on automation....?

[@gnutzguy]

lol

[@lanceschaerer6875]

Good video but in all honesty the rough machining on sks rifles makes mag fitting an individual rifle by rifle affair. Ive owned and fixed up plenty of them and every gun is different as are the mags. The sks i run now i have 6 baer 30 rd mags that are flawless but wont feed proper in my very first one ive had for 15 years. Gun by gun mag by mag if you want em running properly

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍 Hey mate back in the 1990s to the best of my knowledge ( I wasn’t interested back in the time ) , the only SKS released in Australia was the SKS 10 shot & the SKK. The SKK was the model sold with 3 /30 shot AK magazines upon sale from the gun dealers. Apparently they costed a little more than the SKS rifles. Mainly I think most people sore the rifles as more of a novelty as down here most people use scopes which the SKS’s didn’t have. Lots of people down here brought them for feral control in tight scrub or use at the military rifle club shoots. In 1996 a young man who was mentally handicapped somehow acquired the shooting skills of an elite SAS soldier and murdered about 35 people in Tasmania with an AR 15 .The government at the time locked him away forever without a proper trial and the result of all innocent lives being lost was the banning of all semiautomatic rifles. .Bit of a mystery that but down here we aren’t allowed to talk about that just in case it offends or scares anyone. . . Any how great video. Interesting information in history which Australians will probably never see again . Thank goodness for KZbin yeh😉

[@gnutzguy]

in north american we have a different name for the SKK, we call it SKS-D . D stands for detachable mag (ak47 mag). thanks for sharing your aussy history.

[@bigtrev761]

@@gnutzguy 🇦🇺😎👍

[@japbike736]

Great video. Solved my problem...

[@gnutzguy]

Glad it helped

[@MrMcCartney]

I think that it is the dealers choice with any SKS and factory mags even very from one print to another. You can get an off brand Dremel for really cheap these days, cheaper than a magazine even. Just saying.

[@gnutzguy]

im not quite sure what you're saying, lol.

[@Christopher19990]

how they can sell the first one?

[@deankidd1743]

Had to shave mine in order to fit.

[@gnutzguy]

to which wood? russian or chinese?

[@deankidd1743]

@@gnutzguy tapco synthetic stock. Had to shave the bills on the clips

[@gnutzguy]

@@deankidd1743 well, im surprised the synthetic stock was shaved,

[@deankidd1743]

@@gnutzguy just the magazine duck bill tip

[@gnutzguy]

@@deankidd1743 still, I thought they made to fit their own but I'm guessing different manufacturers made different sizes. Thank's for letting me know. I assumed they made the duckbill bigger so it wouldnt fit wood so you would had to buy their synthetic stocks.

[@BaconSlayer69]

What magazines fit in the archangel stock ??

[@gnutzguy]

all duckbill.

[@Oxide4000]

Having the bolt removed really is not going to tell you much even if it does fit you really need to get to see if the bolt will ride through the feed lips had this problem 2 weeks ago with KCI 75rd drum in Chinese /26\

[@gnutzguy]

what it does tell me is the metal ones can get the lips bent way too easily so not recommended.

[@Oxide4000]

@@gnutzguy truth but the bolt should be set to the rear before inserting. Problem occurs when you ride the bolt forward… will it jam up on the feed lips? Not saying you are wrong and I do see this video very informative and am leaning towards promag because of what you showed…. As far as bending goes I had my gunsmith file and polish the feedlips on my drum and testing this weekend. What I am trying to accomplish is getting the steel mags to work with the wood stock on a Chinese paratrooper….. I’m not sure how filing polymer would work and I do not want to replace my stock with an aftermarket

[@bc1953]

is there any that are plug in play. I have the Chinese version and converted to the ark angel stock . I have the Archangel mag it doesn't fit very frustrating.

[@gnutzguy]

really? archangel mag wont fit archangel stock?

[@bc1953]

I have yet to find one that fit my SkS I have the Chinese SKS

[@gnutzguy]

they want you to buy their polymer stock, lol. i got a vid coming out with you in mind.

[@ziggyz2958]

I think duck bills belong on ducks.

[@gnutzguy]

lol. i personally dont use it but i know alot of other people do.

[@عراقيوافتخر-ش4خ5ص]

How can I get a new Sumnov Sks rifle system in Iraq

[@gnutzguy]

no idea. can you buy AK47 instead?

[@richardheacock7422]

Well I can tell you that if you hold back recever they will fit

[@gnutzguy]

Lol.... not. It has nothing to do with receivers or bolts or carriers. Watch again.

[@EmphasisontheFFF]

archangel fit my factory 26 1958 no problem, i got lucky i guess

[@EmphasisontheFFF]

im thinking the later years would deviate from the original russian machinery/design more, mines only second year in so basically russian

[@gnutzguy]

for sure, like i said differences in spec can occur from year to year. nice piece you got, not too common.

[@Ape76]

You simply destroyed them with that mod😂

[@gnutzguy]

do you have the correct video bcos i never made any mod?

[@richards.mchardy3556]

Nope, not for me I'm not going to ruin my Sks

[@jessemartino9765]

It's a cheap 7.62 cal. Tool that's all it is a tool that you can upgrade to be better.

[@richards.mchardy3556]

@jessemartino9765 when I bought mine, I only paid 79.00 dollars for it has all o

[@richards.mchardy3556]

It is worth more now than what I paid for it 25 years ago, I only paid 80 dollars for it. Now it is in the 800-plus dollar range

[@funker419]

Keep Bubba away from my sks

[@gnutzguy]

changing the mag is buuba to you? dont answer that, lol.

[@hvuu1628]

😂😂 bunch of junk detachable mag. fix mag all the way. the 20e rounds 20 star mag is the only next option.

[@gnutzguy]

not true... you didnt see my other vid

[@hvuu1628]

@@gnutzguy yup. still don't trust them.

[@gnutzguy]

@@hvuu1628 fair enough

[@o9rgeronimo979]

Star mag is aftermarket junk , never type56 issue.

[@gettingpast4391]

Stop. The first way to look like a total goober is to show up at the range with an SKS and a duckbill.

[@gnutzguy]

what do you call someone when he shows up with a tacticool stock and a duckbill mag? lol.

[@joshhuffines3771]

You can keep fumbling around with those stripper clips if you want bud

[@peterchilds9309]

Thank you very much !!

[@gnutzguy]

Thanks for watching