Goat Format Priority Explained Like You're 5

[@pj_artsofdarkness]

Next time I get a first-class plane ticket, I’m going to shout “PRIO” as I board.

[@Ahmad01379]

Only Yu-Gi-Oh Players will BE scared to death😢 😂

[@ferelpuma]

I would love to see more examples of priority working with some common cards, as I keep getting into discussions about this (e.g. how cards like BLS/TER work with cards like Book/Ring/Torrential). Great video, btw.

[@GoatDuels]

Once you understand one example, you understand them all, really. There is nothing special about BLS and TER.

[@ferelpuma]

@@GoatDuels you would think, but people at locals are something else. I'd like to be able to use a video for reference for these rulings, since even with the rulings people still argue.

[@codydang]

@@ferelpuma this is that vid you can show then

[@exiledknight3961]

I think the biggest issue of priority is that when people dont know what it is or not too sure, they google it. This often leads them to Yugioh Fandom, which gives an incorrect explanation as to what priority actually is.

[@robrick9361]

The real problem with this version of priority is that it sounds like your opponent is trying to cheat. Exiled Force having priority over Book of Moon, a Quick-Play spell, is stupid and confusing.

[@exiledknight3961]

@ priority was definitely weird and confusing

[@John_1-1_in_Japanese]

This was so confusing to me as someone playing GOAT for the first time. I looked this up because I summoned Daedalus, asked if there was a response and man says "prio" over and over again without elaborating like "I don't know what that means, I just want to know if you respond to the summon, you could lie y'know, I'm a noob just lie to me"

[@John_1-1_in_Japanese]

Finally got to resolve Neo-Daedalus though, my whole point for playing GOAT, feels so kino bro I mean, it got Ring of Destruction'd and I got BTFO by Sinister Serpent beatdown, but felt kino

[@larhanfu2]

Thanks, that definitely helped me out with my question before i watched this video. ❤

[@bitbna1]

Incredibly necessary video.

[@thekittenfreakify]

Hated this rule back then hate it now too.

[@heavyrain5949]

How are players supposed to know when cards can activate? Without prio/fast effect timing, turns would have no structure.

[@RichardDuryea]

It's overly complex rules like this that make me want to create my own TCG from scratch. One that is simple for all ages to understand and enjoy. I love Yugioh but man the barrier on rules is beyond ridiculous.

[@ookamigenji-pv2st]

Well 1. This particular rule was already incredibly outdated and removee by the time you made this comment and 2. Although it adds complexity, you need some sort of system like this if you want to allow people to play "out of turn". Some YGO are complicated but all thing considered it's mostly logical and consistent and it's more importantly very old so yeah newer games will benefit from not needing to make the same mistakes.

[@proyteam]

The pokemon reference you used was a picture from a format that use hand traps lol

[@jordanconnor1223]

Pokemon had hand traps??

[@proyteam]

@@jordanconnor1223 yeh

[@magneto1992]

@@jordanconnor1223 Exactly one, in 2009-2011 formats

[@M3rtyville]

The priority mechanic on early yugioh is very confusing. Especially once you get conditioned not to use it in more modern formats. I miss big monsters being good when normal summoned, normal monsters, life point restore effects being useful, tribute summoning mattering and actual trap cards being used that aren't quick spells with different color.

[@GoatDuels]

You do use priority in modern formats. It's just been renamed to "fast effect timing" (as this video explains).

[@M3rtyville]

@@GoatDuels I don't play the most recent ones, but stuff like Breaker won't go off in modern formats minus the manatory effect of getting a counter. As far as I know, only Quick Effect get priority.

[@MembelDembel]

breaker is probably one of the worst examples you could have chosen, since prio hardly affects him.

[@RichardDuryea]

And when special summoning was actually special. Like, it would happen no more than 3 times a game.

[@brandonshort876]

After Player 1 resolves rota, can player 2 activate trap Dustshoot before player 1 has a chance to normal summon the monster searched off rota?

[@MembelDembel]

Are there only monster rffects that fall in the category of Ignition effects? Is for example an already faceup wave motion cannon an Ignition effect, hence you can use it without an open gamestate?

[@MembelDembel]

after further research i've discovered that these are called Ignition-like effects. So they act the same way but are not called the same, so i'm assuming you'll need an open game state for cards like wave motion cannon. Requesting confirmation :)

[@GoatDuels]

Yeah, that's correct. Ignition-like effects are NOT ignition effects. They still require an open gamestate.

[@martynkalendar]

i heard someone say you used to be able to use black rose dragon's battle position changing effect on summon during your opponent's turn, is that true? from what i heard here that sounds wrong since you wouldn't have priority during your opponent's turn.

[@jondough3339]

What about chaos sorc. If you summon him and use his eff to banish does the priority only count on the targeting of the monster? Say they chain book of moon to his eff, would sorc be able to banish before the monster is flipped f/d?

[@appeljuicesurf]

no, because it only banish face up monsters. cs cant attack that turn nor reactivate his effect.

[@redjohn8012]

What is the thing that you can’t summon TER with premature burial

[@GoatDuels]

If a fusion monster is "cheated" into play via Metamorphosis or Cyber-Stein, it cannot be special summoned afterwards (via Premature Burial, Dimension Fusion, etc.) If Thousand-Eyes Restrict is summoned properly via Polymerization or Fusion Gate, it CAN be special summoned again later.

[@adrian.rodriguez918]

"ignition effect may not be chain link 2 or higher", i looked at the chart shown on the video and does not says that, on your screenshot also says step 2 is for fast effects or ignition effect, so now I'm confused on your example exiled force vs king tiger wanghu, it is an ignition effect, but for some unexplainable reason cannot be chained to a trigger effect

[@adrian.rodriguez918]

found it on the rule book, no issues anymore haha

[@rajinh4446]

How about Thousand Eyes Restrict.. how does that work. Breaker i get, but TER?

[@brandonshort876]

You summon TER, you are given the option to activate the effect as chain link 1 (unlike in modern yugioh where opponent can immediately chain normal trap to summon). Your opponent can still chain book of flip and the chain will resolve backwards, flipping TER and effect fizzles since you can’t equip to a facedown monster. Basically, priority just gives your monster effects spell speed 2 on summon but then it goes back to spell speed 1 after summoned successfully.

[@MrBiff123]

But I want to get on the plane last… why should I stand in a cramped line in a cramped space holding my bag. I’ll wait and just cruise in last it’s not like my seat will be gone. I will have plenty of time in the tube full of demons

[@iilvii_official]

Isn't the second example with the ring and breaker just how modern yugioh works. I mean it's basically the same thing as an open game state if you can only use the ignition effect after everything resolves if your opponent has a response to an ETB. And in the other ring secnario its the same as your opponent having no response and then using the ignition in a open game state. So if the monster has an ETB it works like normal yugioh Is what i took from the ring example.

[@GoatDuels]

In modern Yugioh, the player with Ring of Destruction has the option to chain Ring to Breaker's trigger and deal 1600 or let the trigger resolve and then Ring for 1900. In Goat Format Yugioh, only the first play is possible. The second play cannot be done due to ignition effect priority.

[@iilvii_official]

​@@GoatDuelsah okay. There is one small difference in this situation that I didn't think about. Thank you!!!

[@iilvii_official]

​@GoatDuels no wait. How can you in modern yugioh do ring after the trigger resolves? Isn't it an open state after resolution and the turn player with breaker gets first move?

[@GoatDuels]

After a chain resolves, the gamestate is closed, unless both players do nothing and allow it to become open.

[@iilvii_official]

So you can start another chain link 2 in a closed state? ​@GoatDuels

[@YGOstratPlayer]

Did I understand correctly? When I summon lets say BLS I can use his effect to banish something immedietly. Then opponent can chain something of spell speed 2 to BLS. If I summon BLS and don't use his effect to banish immedietly and opponent chains something lets say book of moon, I am not allowed to use BLS' banishing effect in response.

[@MembelDembel]

yes

[@SCH292]

In Yugioh World Championship 2006 on GBA often "cheat" and make sure you can't Priority first when come to certain situation or how the duel is going. It also cheat and make you miss timing. Also the system often cheat and don't allow you to activate your traps like Trap Dustshoot even when it is 100% allowed.

[@hopscotch8392]

Amazing as always

[@KiryuRyo]

Great video with clear explanations!

[@Slashtap]

Agreed on the noob thing. Tired of them asking "prio?" when I activate the effect on summon. If I'm going to wait for an open gamestate to use it (happens once in a blue moon), I'll clarify.

[@ShineDawg]

"PRIO" LMAO

[@johndoe9343]

Great video

[@Pcervelli11]

Yu-Gi-Oh just needs to watch one game of Magic and all of their priority problems would be solved

[@GalacticBlader]

lmfao i wonder how many clueless players he had to deal with before making this video

[@austinh3848]

I miss old turn player priority.

[@UncleMerlin]

I don't. I'd prefer a more interactive game. Turn player priority just makes it so that Old Yugioh has chain-blocking inherent to all its cards.

[@RichardDuryea]

Priority was the dumbest thing in old-school YuGiOh. It never made sense.

[@MRkriegs]

Doesnt it have to have priority for certain things? Idk

[@rickelmemonti1405]

banger

[@alexisthetransgenderduelis4211]

The pokemon TCG is simple both players take their turn and the opponent cant active card effects.... so... we're igoring power spray I assume? A pokemon TCGA CARD That can only be used on the opponents turn and not our own.

[@magneto1992]

Well considering Power Spray is the only important card to do so and has been rotated for the last in 10 years, and is only played on people playing old format, I’ll give him a pass.

[@alexisthetransgenderduelis4211]

@@magneto1992 understandable