Goblin Fanatics in The Old World are INSANE!!! Orcs and Goblins vs Warriors of Chaos

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I play my 2nd game of the Old World with Luka as he uses his orcs and Goblins against my Warriors of Chaos. His Fanatics are INSANE!!!
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[@orkybob]

I'm glad to see Dave playing games, the fact that it's Warhammer fantasy is a plus!

[@miniwargaming]

Thanks Orkybob!!! I’m enjoying man!

[@lrtahu]

Love to see Luka and Dave on a batrep, we don’t get enough of these two together!

[@calebsantos9561]

This has probably been the most informative actual game I've seen.

[@lukapavicevic335]

Hopefully it helped out!

[@SquidFisT44]

Love this new style bat repp with the camera angles, i got love for the hand cam style too, but this is a nice fresh take.

[@miniwargaming]

Thank you! It’s taken us a while to “get it” but we feel it was worth the struggle to get here. Ultimately it has inspired me to play games again Luka was great at teaching me The Old World.

[@W1DO]

I stopped watching bat reps for a while because they were getting too long (maybe I mean too much non game chat?), this game was really enjoyable to watch - I watched it in about 5 chunks when I had a little time to chill between life stuff. Looking forward to more old world stuff.

[@Gelthon]

I love the Old World bat reps with Dave! He's generally a great person and very entertaining, but he's also a new fantasy player like myself and it helps to learn the rules myself! Please more Old World with Dave and Luka or Matt!

[@smitchy657]

500 pushups a day, that is their armor! 🤣🤣

[@schlatta-dirtydeeds9351]

1:07:40 Night gobbos do not have light armor, those cloaks are only protection against the sun!

[@thalamus861]

So it is light armor and not light armor? 😂

[@schlatta-dirtydeeds9351]

@@thalamus861 Sun factor 6+!

[@yjomustjumbse]

For anyone else wondering you can fit 42 fanatics in a 2000pt list (14 Night Goblin Big Bosses, 14 x 10 Night Goblins with 3 Fanatics -1960pts)

[@danielbateman6518]

So what you're saying is you still have 40 points for upgrades

[@jacobbodmer3159]

You could fit it in! On the other hand, your entire army is LD6 at best, and starts taking panic tests if you lose 3 goblins. Which can then cause other LD6 units to panic. Which... well... You should try it!

[@juriaan13]

Only 42 lol

[@user-bt5mk3fe9s]

So that was the question!

[@jonathanantoine6391]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@themidnightaristocrat]

Cool to see Dave playing Fantasy!

[@1988atty]

loved this batrep! night goblins have a special place in my nostalgic heart. this style of camera angles is by far the best one yet, and i enjoy seeing dave and luca playing too. Bring us way more of this please!

[@cp1cupcake]

1:02:00 Chaos Warriors have T4, fanatics need 3s to kill them, not 2s.

[@lukapavicevic335]

TRUE!

you forgot the itchy spell. They have T1 from the start of the match

[@salt7598]

I definitely prefer this style of filming dramatically to the hand held camera style that has been utilised previously. Please keep recording battle reports like this.

[@bobmylan9434]

Thanks guys to bring old world to us again !!!!

[@danbuman8422]

This is my favorite Old World battle report I have seen by anyone on youtube period and I have watched A LOT of them. Luka is a gem and the chemistry between Luka and Dave is perfect. Hope to see lots more of you two guys playing Old World!!!

[@lukapavicevic335]

Definitely more to come! Glad you've enjoyed!

[@TheMaltesefalcon204]

Miss these type of battle reports, so much fun to watch. Keep it up guys.

[@user-qi1jc1yn3o]

I’m really enjoying seeing both Matt and Dave getting their Old World on, it’s truly brilliant to see, especially with them both learning a newer “language” of gaming, almost making me regret thinking about returning to 40k although I have never been someone who follows the new fascination but I’m the person who wants everything always but thanks to Wayland Games I have received this week my 40k core rule book and just need to get painting to get to the tabletop with my Ork army and bring my WAAAGH 💥

[@cp1cupcake]

45:00 yeah, putting fighting characters towards the center makes sense, but you still can't use those places unless you get rid of command group. The Aspiring Sorceror is put in an illegal spot as the unit is 6 wide so he can only be places within 1-2 spaces at each edge..

[@alexmadrigal9703]

Hot damn, is Dave gonna become an Old World fan?! Also, Dave, you've gotta wheel forward when you wheel!

[@lukapavicevic335]

The moving can be a little iffy for newer players! I'll keep my eyes on him! 😅

[@alexmadrigal9703]

@@lukapavicevic335 Oh, I'm sure he's gonna be a pro in no time and dominating the myriad battlefields of the old world.

[@kevinmuhamad2246]

Really love Luka and Dave's energy on the table, such a fun batrep!

[@lukapavicevic335]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@roseyb34r98]

New format is great. Keep up the great work

[@miniwargaming]

Cheers Rosey 🤗

[@davidburke6467]

Dave should play more, look how happy everyone is to see him!

[@buchnejf]

Luka shined in this batrep. Thank you!

[@Sealdog]

Really liked the mixture of handheld stuff too, well done!

[@crisisgear]

Hopefully MWG internet is fixed now, bless Matt and Steve basically doing a 29 part stream last night lol.

[@metalhead55593]

Goblin magic: summon a moon, glare, summon a moon that glares

[@lukapavicevic335]

MAKE EM ITCH

[@GrimDarkDude]

loving these old world battle reps keep going em coming !

[@richardcowan8785]

Old world is best GW game released since Mordheim. There , i said it.Great game guys!!

[@RagtimeNinja]

Love this Batrep, great work Dave n Luka

[@itsallfunandgames723]

I don't know for sure where the term Shartak comes from, but I couldn't help but notice Shaggoth and Shartak are both just one letter off from Shoggoth and Shantak, and strongly suspect a connection.

[@julianfonseca9843]

Love the new format and love seeing Dave having fun in the old world!

[@user-rm9qs4hz1p]

fanatics look super fun

[@lukapavicevic335]

You better believe it!! Easily my favourite unit.

[@friendofyoda5194]

Very well done guys, nicely explained for players completely new to WFB

[@warkatwargaming2358]

Loving these new battle reports with the explanations

[@caspianbchalphy]

My gosh I’m loving these Old World battle reports. I got into Warhammer April/May 2020 so I never got to play Fantasy and I’m loving the game.

[@larrywagner1432]

Oh man Goblin Fanatics! I remember loving those models when I was first getting into the hobby (early 90’s) if I had ever collected Fantasy it would have been night goblins. Loved the flavor.

[@Timotepp]

Minute 59, best part of the BatRep imo.

[@MungusMctavish]

Yea Dave and Luka are a good pair for battle reps, nice and relaxed.

[@davidairey3614]

Took a full goblin army to warhammer world once as a joke. Came 3rd! Favourite memory was doom divering a orc warboss off a wyvern :)

[@TerminallyNerdy]

Great report!

[@alexandersmit4256]

I just so happened to stumble upon a wiki page for Dragon-Ogres 2 days ago. They are a primordial species, who collectively made a deal with Chaos(mostly Tzeentch, it seems), to make them immortal (outside of combat), but at the cost of their fertility. They live only to fight, slumber for ages when not fighting, relish and are charged by lightning, and yearn for the end of the world at the hands of Chaos.

[@menelar479]

Old Bela'Kor was achually decent looking. I'e never seen his old sculpt before

[@lukapavicevic335]

Right?! Always stood out, and it is OLDDDDD

[@93broome]

I love seeing Dave so excited playing Fantasy :D

[@geeksworkshop]

Mine just murdered about 150pts of my own army while dancing about the enemy knights! Each Night goblin character needs a unit of night goblins and VV each night goblin unit per character. 4 characters would need you to field 4 units.

[@Morhgoz]

Nope. You are mixing rules of night gobboz and black orcz there a bit. Each night gobbo character allows you to wield one mob of night gobbos, squigs, hoppers and manglers each, but characters themself don't need mobz etc to be wielded. That is the Da Boyz rule black orc characters and mobz have...

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

the old mangler squids model might by my favorite warhammer model of all time. I still need to buy it, I cant believe I didnt get one before they discontinued them.

[@AustenKime]

Really enjoying these old world videos! What's the model of that spooky looking mansion on the hill?!

[@NisGaarde]

Great stuff!!

[@caspianbchalphy]

These new battle report styles are so cool. They are easy to see the battlefield and units which is important to me.

[@deanharing4236]

The war machine is also classified as "Skirmisher", so I think it would have a chance to Panic from the general fleeing through it. They would only FBIGO, so no big deal in this case.

[@iainfenton4671]

Would be great to get some tips on how you guys painted those yellow night goblins - cheers!

[@andrewsimmons2711]

Such a pleasant game to watch

[@MrRrleonc689]

I was watching your video and I wonder, are you guys recording the footage on all the cameras at the different angels at all times, or do you have someone helping you make the transitions from camera to camera?? Seems like it would be a lot of editing making all those camera change transitions. But, this was very enjoyable so do to that.

[@lukapavicevic335]

We have a3rd body in the room changing up camera angles!

[@martinbomark9594]

I will have to start a gobbo army in this style... What are the process and the paints used for the yellow goblins and the squigs?

[@NickWebb-lc6ry]

fun game to watch, not complaining, but I must say somewhere in the background of the background sound, if you have a headset on, it sounds like someone in knocking at your door.

[@miniwargaming]

Haha this is probably true.

[@bigdave4859]

I've been a little disappointed with TOW release but this has got me excited again. Really happy to see Dave playing fantasy and Luca is always great

[@Katiefan123]

great report one minor gripe the mwg symbol in the bottom right corner blocked several key dice rolls, could it be moved?

[@lukapavicevic335]

Will keep in mind!

[@gregorytice938]

What base size is the Goblin on Giant Cave Squig? I'm currently painting the AOS variant but I want him on a square base for old world. Just not sure what size I need to excavate from the hobby warrens or order online.

[@skipgiblets]

I like the camera angles, including the hand held

[@thijsv948]

Could you use your charge movement to pivot away from the front of a unit -> move -> pivot into the flank, provided you have enough movement? Like Belakor might have been able to do at around 1:01:55. Or do you always have to take the shortest path to the enemy?

[@jessepigram1039]

You have to wheel to maximise contact, but otherwise you move directly. However, the arc you charge into is determined at the start of the charge, so you wouldn't be able to sneak a flank this way anyway

[@pikminmaster2165]

Time for some Gobbo 'n' Marauder yellin'!

[@redpill4145]

Question as someone who loves orcs and goblins can I feild an army with all different kinds of units? Also are you using AOS models for your night goblins? I enjoyed the video a ton and really want to get into this one!

[@lukapavicevic335]

They are from AoS, however they were from Warhammer Fantasy first! The Night goblin model is a weeeee bit old at this point!

[@redpill4145]

@@lukapavicevic335 awesome. I'm picking up a box of night goblins this weekend. Going to have to pause my current ork combat patrol foemr a few days while I paint them up! I can't bring myself to wait. :)

[@treytison1444]

The subtitles for this video keep saying "marked by corn"

[@MichaelBaistow-dt3sm]

Is there going to round to square base converters specifically for cavalry in the MWG forge?

[@miniwargaming]

Since the oval cavalry bases are so much bigger than the rectangle ones we can’t do movement tray converters for them. We did, however, make base adapters which solve this problem: miniwargamingforge.com/collections/rank-and-flank-base-adapters

[@nishisan218]

Please keep the third-person perspective filming for these battles! Its much easier to watch. Thank you for making these videos. I love watching them while I work on my minis. Take care!

[@miniwargaming]

Will do! We’re liking the new format too. Massive shoutout to Play on Tabletop, Tabletop Titans, Tabletop Tactics. Vanguard Tactics, and Mountain Miniatures.

[@jolamber]

Hell yeah old world

[@mikeydolman3926]

PLEASE KEEP DAVE PLAYING CHAOS WARRIORS! Somebody give that man a DragonLord

[@iainfenton4671]

Do you have a paint scheme for those beautiful yellow night goblins?

[@user-ys8xq4jf4o]

Killing blow only works on infantry models. You need monstrous killing blow on bigger models.

[@KnightsofTitan]

So in my rule book it says cavalry are war beats. Flamming weapons look realy good. Almost and auto include against some armies

[@trajanfidelis1532]

Dave is a monster!

[@XenoDundee]

I really enjoyed this BR my only concern is the over explanations which makes it feel slightly condescending but at the same time still get the need. overall positive!!

[@mango8758]

A good rule of thumb is that every video could be someone's first video. So they should be explaining things throughout. Funny enough, I'd prefer a little more explication on some things. I still don't fully understand how they determine hits on/wounds on so quickly, I know "look at the table". But if I think they need more and you think they need less, it probably means it's the exact right amount

[@TheCoyote808]

I love how KZbin has labeled this game as World of Warcraft gameplay.

[@Fronken89]

@13:10 "I get +1 for deploying first" Where is this in the rulebook? I know its been in previous versions of WHFB but i haven't found confirmation in Old World.

[@spencerm5663]

In the game type descriptions, under "First Turn" is where it says it. Page 289 of the core rulebook is the first mention I could find.

[@Fronken89]

@@spencerm5663 Cheers :)

[@moonlightets3571]

We need more oldworld with Luka

[@lukapavicevic335]

More to come!

[@6St6Jimmy6]

This new World of Warcraft is interesting.

[@billdipperly2344]

okay but that website doesnt have any Old World models in stock

[@cliporinoabramchuno5414]

Luka was awesome!!! I hope he becomes a regular

[@MightyWolve]

lol he is.

[@lukapavicevic335]

I suspect you may see more of me to come!

[@dietrichknauth9305]

Having played against fanatics: I DO NOT LOVE IT

[@dietrichknauth9305]

at 1:13:00, I think the spearmen would actually get to fight from the second rank. The Stepping Forward rule says: A model cannot fight during a phase in which it stepped forward "into the fighting rank." The second rank of spearmen are making supporting attacks, and they are NOT stepping into the fighting rank.

[@jessepigram1039]

It was played right. Per Excess Casualties (pg 150), if the fighting rank takes more wounds than it has, the unit reduces any supporting attacks it has

[@dietrichknauth9305]

@@jessepigram1039 Thanks! I had missed that since I was looking at the "We can't all fight" and "stepping forward" rules on pg 146. It's a bit maddening that they give you half a rule on one page, then the more complete explanation a few pages later, but there you have it, you're totally correct. .(the same layout issue causes confusion with spell vortexes - you have to separately look up "spell categories" page on 107 to learn that you can't hit an enemy model when casting a vortex, because none of the vortex spell descriptions say so.)

[@Dryzual]

Good game

[@michaelwool5960]

You did the fantacis move wrong. You don't get to choose where they go. They only go forward the first time they come out. Then it's directional dice every time after. You also did the giant dying wrong also. It's directional dice and it becomes an obstacle.

[@squidumspainting]

I like them squigs! Are they old gw models or third party?

[@lukapavicevic335]

An old Print! We have rebased all the old squigs at this point though.

[@Morhgoz]

Look bit like EmanG's squigs, which were free files in Cults 3D, but were forced to take down because GW Legal Team month or two ago...

[@emilrudnielsen2972]

Are you going to make all battreps like your introducing the game to new playeyers

[@lukapavicevic335]

This was more for Dave since he doesn't have too many games of The Old World under his belt yet, more to come however!

[@piotrskodowski7544]

Wiii. Keeep them coming XD

[@redcorsair14]

At 39:00, when you pooped out the fanatics, shouldnt they have popped out and immediately done their movement before the dragon ogres made their charge move? Seems a bit odd that they got hit from the same fanatics twice in the same movement phase.

[@Reefa328]

I think they are released within 3” of the unit in the command/strategy phase can’t remember what it’s called, they then move later in the movement phase during compulsory. It’s a different release than previous

[@Namehack]

Yes and no, they always move during a '(3) Compulsory Move' sub-phase, so in this instance they where released during Daves '(2) Charge' sub-phase, '(3) Compulsory moves' goes after (2) charges, so they pooped out within 3" during the (2) Charge sub-phase, the Dragon Ogres charged through them taking damage (and the Fanatics has to be moved the shortest distance through the Ogres once in base contact), then in Daves '(3) Compulsory move' sub-phase they moved their first time, direction chosen by Luka(?) 2D6. So everything checks out, they "moved" once, but thanks to Dave charging through them it looked like they moved twice due to the fact that the models _have_ to be moved through anything they touch. Hope I made some sense, though Lukas change of where they pooped out I would question, a mistake but I would not allow a redo of that since its in his favour.

[@calbion9164]

The dragon ogres could have also wheeled more with that charge roll to avoid hitting so many fanatics. Moving the fanatics again afterwards was a bit poor form. If you roll high enough you can move to align more centrally.

[@calbion9164]

You’d also move the full distance through for the charge then roll the damage. Fanatics landed on are then moved the shortest distance to side or behind unit to be out from under it.

[@jessepigram1039]

@@Namehack They're meant to pop out during any Start of Turn sub-phase. Luka did mistime it slightly, but as that seems to have happened in part because Dave quickfired his Gaze of the Gods, I'd give it a pass

[@lrh5206]

Fanatics truly are insane, I blame the shrooms.

[@rafadiaz6959]

If I'm not mistaket, the goblin Warboss can spend 100 points in magic Items. That means: 40 troll throusers + 30 Ruby ring + 30 Talisman of protection + 15 Wollopa's = 115. Is it a mistake or he can carry all of them for some reason?

[@aaronsheppard8241]

Good to see goblins with a chain are still the most unfun thing ever produced.

[@harrisonbrown2431]

I’ve never played (but I would like to) but I am confused about the Fanatics being overpowered comments. They did some damage but, as far as I can tell, the Warriors of Chaos still ultimately shrugged it off and won. Was it supposed to be an even easier win for Warriors of Chaos or am I missing something?

[@raz1984]

I spy with my little eye, giants. YESS!

[@kungdswe2940]

either the fanatics is broken or something went wrong at 38, first D6 for running throu them without they die and then they can "charge" again 5 sek later throu the same unit. And dont they die if there movement stop inside a unit?

[@lukapavicevic335]

They now only die when they roll doubles for movement, or when they hit terrain that isn't a hill. They also die if they hit one another of course....if they roll well enough to kill one another!

[@rhysperkins1600]

Hi, out of curiosity, why are the movement trays sold on the miniwargaming forge the wrong size? There's 2-3mm of slack in the design of every tray, the 30mm base at the front of a lance is slopping around in a 33mm spot, the 2nd rank is 63mm wide and the rear is 183mm. The lengths are different in that the front two ranks have 60mm but the rear rank has 63mm. The square trays are similar. It appears as if whoever has designed them hasn't calibrated their printers at all and rather than fix that they're designing around it so whenever someone else goes to print the files their models bases are sat in there slopping around with significant play. Because I can't imagine you're actually printing and sending products with such poor fitment. They're so bad, they're just the wrong size. it's way more than compensating for fitment.

[@avocadoarmadillo7031]

Am I wrong in thinking that as things are right now, fanatics are a bit too strong and goblin warboss leadership is a bit too low for them to be effective? I love night goblins, and also I feel like the only 'correct' way of playing them effectively is spamming fanatics.

[@gonzalo2694]

which unit size is best for squig herders?

[@lukapavicevic335]

Noooooo idea. Think about it a lot, maybe 6x4 if you want to invest more points into them.

[@doomguy1988]

Lol lucas wants more goblins but he hassent looked close to home

[@JamesTillmanjimthegray]

love the old world vids

[@ehakir]

Nobody noticed that after being released fanatics are supposed to move in random direction? Kinda pushes back some of their insane damage to the goblin player. 😅

[@goth84]

Daaaaaveee!

[@Littleriggy2]

only mix up i see here is night goblins having light armour they only get shields but that happens to the best of us

[@Andoran7]

The rulebook states that fantatics move each phase into the direction, that the controlling player choses. At least in the german rulebook.

[@jornahrens7026]

Wrong translation in the german bpok

[@barator03]

@@jornahrens7026 i think they just copy pasted the previous sentence in the translation lol

[@s2korpionic]

First time they come out, player chooses the direction. Then in every compulsory move onwards (yours and opponent's), move in random direction.

[@jornahrens7026]

​@@barator03😊

[@Piratfabbe]

I like fanatics, however, I would house-rule it so that if your fanatics hit a unit before their first controlled move, they would lose that controlled move and revert to moving in a random direction that turn.

[@MrWilfredBramble]

I agree. Feels like they attack twice in one turn doing 2d6 instant kills to anyone. 25points taking out 250.