Old World Army Guide: Warriors of Chaos Overview

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Rob is overwhelmed by a sense of encroaching evil doers as he bunkers down and reviews the Warriors of Chaos for Warhammer the Old World.
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[@InfernosDragons]

As a complete old world noob you guys have really made it an exciting time getting into the game. Loving the content and I looking forward to a new positive oldhammer community to grow and to be apart of the journey

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Welcome to the team. Fun is the plan

[@Git_Kraken]

Amazing work as always. In particular I like the powerpoint style so I can follow along instead of "man reads rulebook" blurry images.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thankyou. Took hours to make all the slides

[@JaykeHallOfLegends]

This was a dangerous watch… My FIRST WHFB army was a mortals of chaos, slaanesh force with a big block of 40 chosen warriors of slaanesh, great weapons and shields. Lots of fun in my teenage years back in 5/6th Then the day the killed the old world, I’d JUST finished spraying a Tzeentch WOC army… sad times. But I also have a Krondys brand new on sprue under my desk, who’s begging to be a chaos dragon 👀😅

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

HE IS BEGGING TO BE ONE!! HET IT DONE AND SHOW ME

[@13617Chris]

This is the best WOC overview for TOW on KZbin. Found you guys about a month ago and you are amazing. Thanks for doing what you do for the community, and I can’t wait for your WOC tactics content!

[@leonardodosvinci4130]

Yeah, its a big improvement on 'man reads book' on 2X speed, thats for sure.

[@harakoniwhawk]

This army is going to look insane with the new Slaves to Darkness sculpts imo! Very nice overviews, keep it up!!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thats wht i am doing for my army - Rob

[@Perkustin]

Already made a start! Not sure what to do with the chosen, i saw a box for a decent price and couldn't resist, but they really are big detaily boys. If i didn't already have a couple of foot heroes they might have been perfect though, kinda like what you can potentially do with some of the Warcry/Underworlds/Elite AoS stuff for other armies.

[@Mittens_Gaming]

​@SquareBasedOldWorld I am doing the same, bought 4 of the Christmas box sets + 40 extra warriors, some sorcerers, and a manticore lord.

[@RuleofKrule]

Two overviews in two days. You’re spoiling us!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks so much. Share it if you can

[@vzgg1973]

Enjoying this series of episodes. Really useful to have a analysis that is based on reading the rules not just reading is the rules😅

[@jackrogers5712]

Best TOW review channel on KZbin. You guys are doing great things. I hope to see you all at an event later this year! Thank you for this awesome content!

[@kevinroach2956]

Gimme that sweet empire overview. For real, this type of video is amazing, just great formatting.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

I'm on it but I'm gonna get some sleep first

[@SickLiq]

You really explain this stuff well. I've had 2 boxes each of knights, warriors and hounds sitting in my closet for the last decade. Mostly because of your videos, I'm finally getting motivated to put them together (on the new bases, thank god) and paint them.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

This is inspiring to me so thankyou. I made this over the course of a very long two days so having an impact like this is huge!! Thankyou

[@crusader2410]

Really liking the idea of taking both a Hellcannon and an allied Cygor at 1,999pts- primarily to add another source of decent ranged firepower- and also to seriously mess up some mages!

[@Flaxbullen]

the amount of content your are pumping out right now..jesus! LOVE IT!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Hope it's good!

[@Flaxbullen]

@@SquareBasedOldWorld anything you put out right now is a huge mental boost for a dad with 3 on his evening strolls with the stroller in the cold dark of northern Sweden haha. Keep up the good work!

[@PRAISE_HASHUT]

PRAISE HASHUT!!! 🔥🎩 Our HELLCANNON returns!! Hopefully the cannon will make the Chaos Dwarf list as well, or at least be allied in. Also, does this mean that the miniature will be going back into production…?!

[@frankkowalewski6702]

I'm pretty certain it will, in forgeworld resin. I have an old one in metal, but I'd love a second.

[@PRAISE_HASHUT]

@@frankkowalewski6702 I prefer metal any day, but I know the Hellcannon has a reputation for being difficult in metal so I’d settle for a resin release on this occasion!! It’s been hard to track one down that’s complete on the secondary market!

[@cavemansam8400]

Are they doing Chaos Dwarves for TOW? 👀

[@PRAISE_HASHUT]

@@cavemansam8400 unfortunately no, beyond the free rules pdf, they’ve said categorically that they won’t release any new models or re-release any old models for Chaos Dwarfs or other legacy factions… :( However, because the Hellcannon is in the Chaos list, it’ll likely be the exception to that rule and get re-released, which is something to get excited about!!

[@cavemansam8400]

@@PRAISE_HASHUTOah yes that was it. CD’s released as legends. Classic GW reaming themselves over IP and trying to make as much money as possible but when the true opportunity to print money slaps them in the face they don’t know what’s hit them cos they don’t play their own game for longer than 5 minutes. SMH.

[@jamesjones-pv7sl]

Yo Rob! You have totally nailed these videos. Keep up the great work budy.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

I'm gonna try my hardest dude thanks!!

[@MarcoRoccaGert]

The format of these videos is just perfect and your (and Val's) passion for the Old World is really contagious. I am now looking forward to the follow up. Maybe a video for each faction on army ideas + mini ranges to put them on the table?

[@Hebwastaken]

I’ve not seen anyone bring up the Warband rule allowing you to reroll charges. It’s great and I think it’s being slept on.

[@kit_race]

I'm glad I never finished my Slaves to Darkness army for AOS because now it looks like I'm sold on getting some square bases and playing them in the Old World.

[@jonathanharris9717]

Mini Wargaming Forge has converter bases!

[@chad4858]

My favorite idea for warriors is a tzeentch brick with lots of wizards in it using the skull of katam. Skull+mark of tzeentch means all the wizards would get +2 to cast on top of their base wizard level, and you can buy spell familiars to get an extra spell on each of them. With steed of shadows from demonology you could move the unit around pretty freely and vomit out an insane amount of casts. Terribly expensive, but sounds fun.

[@Inthrylius]

I'm a Fantasy noob, how many hero units can you put into a block of troops?

[@eglagrodion]

@@Inthrylius In 6th &7th you could join with all characters, aslong as they had a basesize of up to a cavalry base. Risky though, as 1 bad combat round could wipe that full unit of the table. Would not recommend.

[@chad4858]

You must have as many normal unit models in the front rank as characters, so I'd you're 4 or 5 wide, you have 2 characters, 6 or 7, 3 and so on. Probably rarely a good idea to run more than 2 anyway and even 2 is a lot outside armies like empire where they have lots of cheap characters who provide buffs and utility.

[@eglagrodion]

Goblins can possibly get away with it to. But really make sure you got some good LD. It sucks to lose a 600 pt unit because of a single Panic, terror or casualty test. Possibly GG. @@chad4858

[@ClaudiosCollection]

For the love of the dark gods, thank you so much for this! I am soooo incredibly pumped for TOW, and you guys are partially and thankfully to blame! Now let the Chaos begin!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Our pleasure!!! Let people know about the video if you like it

[@ClydeMillerWynant]

Very impressive presentation again. If I ever field my Chaos army (Dwarfs will be first) it will look like what it is which is something out of 3rd Edition. We'll have to agree to disagree about where Beastmen ought to be seen as they'll be there as allies and I guess there will be a Daemon Prince of Khorne - almost certainly completely the wrong way to run one - so I can use my 80s Bloodthirster. Thugs for Marauders, a hound handler to slow my hounds down as I love and have the model etc. So not competitive at all, but I really enjoyed the rundown and good to get a first idea of what sort of things others might be looking to do with the list.

[@paulthetyyppi]

This format of faction focus is by far the best out there for the old world.

[@otto6702]

Glad I found this video. I've been wanting to do a Warriors of Chaos army, but didn't know where to even start.

[@demarderubo]

This army list looks frightening...such a dichotomy from the Wood Elf list, would love to see these two armies face off. Great video Rob.

[@sebastiencarrieres8825]

What worked well in the olden days was a bunch of small units of Khorne marauders armed with flails. Yeah, they would eventually die, but they were so cheap you could field a good number of units and a charge from these guys would hurt way beyond their point value.

[@rag9993]

Love it🎉 I used to run a unit of 15 marauder horse men , fully loaded with a battle standard bearer.

[@Pretourias12]

This is a wonderful, super detailed and produced video with all the details that are missing elsewhere. Perfect!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

MY pleasure x

[@esweeney47]

As a potential Old World player, I would love to see a sample army list at the end of this kind of video. Please give us some inspiration lists as we're in the process of wrapping our heads around the game. I'd love to see the difference between a 1,000 point list and a 2,000 point list. (Beyond the units themselves, I'd love to see how a "veteran" player upgrades their units. What does an elite unit of Chaos Knights "need" for their upgrade bells and whistles? Etc etc.)

[@Dre0oq]

As ever, top notch content! I eagerly await the installment for Beastmen.

[@Chito_17]

This was so informative and it answered a bunch of my questions but it raised so many more! I thought this was the dumb dumb smash army but it looks like there are a million and one ways to build, equip and mark your units. Looking forward to finally putting together my Slaves to Darkness boxes and starting an Old World Warriors of Chaos army. Thanks Rob!

[@FKHendy]

Another great army overview, looking forward to the Beastman one as I've been build a Beastman army in anticipation of the Old World for the last 6 months or so

[@mateodiaz5757]

Remember that flaming attacks only bypass regeneration if the target has flammable, that makes the tzeentch mark very narrow. Good job with this videos btw

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Yes certainly. Regen is going to be an issue

[@walterdimmick653]

You and facehammer tv are making top level OW content!

[@mightyg4538]

This is how it should be done. Great content.

[@Clidefride007]

Would love to see Orcs and Goblins next.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

It's coming soon

[@toddsmith5197]

This Video really helped me decide some things about a Nurgle Cav army I've been wanting to build. Excellent work and thank you.

[@Y3llowSt4r]

So much quality content! I have Data Cards for Orc and Goblin Tribes ready.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Let's gooo!!!!

[@DrGreening7]

WoC look so fun, great sandbox army. Building up the Beastmen Vanguard box right now. Thanks for the overview videos they have been a nice insight into the different factions. Looking forward to the Beastie Boyz overview.

[@anderslundtoft2315]

Awesome reveiw! You catched the essence of chaos. Wothout skullcrushers, for now, the many monsters from this list looks like good fun!

[@zaidi450]

Amazing! Thank you, just starting to collect/print chaos warriors! 🎉❤

[@GeekySkippy]

I can't wait to get this army on the table. I'm an old school Lizardmen player and decided to build an army in the Ravening Hordes book. I'm building my Warriors of Chaos with the new kits and it looks awesome. I can't wait to get some Lords on monstrous mounts and go slap into combat with bricks of dudes.

[@IceJoust]

I think with the changes to how magic works I might finally have to abandon Mono-Khorne and embrace the the Inner Nurgle Caster.. As excited as I am to smash units of Knights into puny mortals, I am worried about what we'll do against the elite of other armies without Step Up! Most of our units don't seem to have weapons that let us fight in extra ranks, and maybe I just played against Ogres too much in 8th but even with our toughness there are definitely things out there that can chew us up and spit us out.

[@SOHellKite]

These videos are popping off!

[@marccolwill1195]

Another brilliant video. This is the place to go for Old World content!!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

MARCCCCCXXXXXX LOVE YA

[@lockkey1980]

These army reviews are the best on KZbin. Very well considered, concise and useful. I’m subscribing! Thanks and hope to see the Dwarven Holds one soon.

[@Stonehorn]

Great job with these reviews, Rob. I hadn't watched your content before this channel because I'm just not personally an AOS guy. Incredibly well done.

[@NisGaarde]

I really enjoy these types of videos. To the point, focussed, informative. No goofing around. Keep it up.

[@Jleot]

These videos are very well done. I am very much enjoying them and the channel!

[@amwoodco3049]

Chaos Spawn, my secret love. I used to take 4 of them (1 model units). They're mage hunters. Oh, look! Two skink shamans (T2, 2W, no armour) in a single unit! Spawn, fetch! No challenges to refuse, no charge reactions, just two dead wizards (~150 pts each with upgrades) in exchange for, at the time, two 60 point models. Same Tactics now, but killing blow.

[@chrismarsden1982]

Great video as always. Your enthusiasm for the Chaos boys really comes through - I think you are salivating at the prospect of that Chaos Lord on Dragon 😂

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

And tzentch casting line! Honestly spawn and forsaken are kinda nutty too

[@Na_bro_leon]

Great review! Love the hype generation for the community!

[@warpaintjj]

Brilliantly done enthusiastic review. Bring on the rest please!

[@joshvikis9993]

The production quality of these releases and the positive impacts on the community are second to none... and no, I'm not talking about GW... it's the #Based team raising the bar (again).

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks for the kind words #squareblessed

[@BlitzDonut]

So... chaoslord, on a dragon, give him 5+ regen, the runeblade and the foght last shit, and nurgle... whats gonna kill that ? XD

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Nothing but also will he ever make his points back

[@BlitzDonut]

@@SquareBasedOldWorld i mean since you just score when something get killed or down to 25 percent, you are denying about 650 victorypoints for your enemy and when he killes like 3 units over the course of the game, maybe a character... so should be a plus for u ?

[@BlitzDonut]

@@SquareBasedOldWorld or did i got something wrong ybout how you score ? Watched your video, there it said 50pts per standart, 100 for the general(wich i am hopefully also deniying) and then you score the pointsvalue of a unit if you kill it ? Thats why i also dont really see why i should play cheap units, just go full elite ?

[@Golfbaka]

Thank you Rob. Been waiting for this! AoS chaos warriors with their flowing capes still need careful positioning on the 30mm bases to ensure they can be ranked up.

[@capt.mannerings8095]

Great overview. Curious about chaos and love the kitbashing potential but with 4 current old world army projects I'll leave this one for the moment. They do like they are gonna be tough.

[@CheezelsTV]

Keep up the good work, loving this type of content

[@belannaertv]

Fantastic video again. Just love having these playing in the background as I'm working on other stuff.

[@BMJYDK]

This video oozes passion that you're known for Rob, digging out my underworld chaos warriors and giving them TOW treatment!

[@shamladphil5735]

Chaos Lord, on chaos steed, in a block a chaos knights, on the charge. Stuff of dreams

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

BSB buddy beside him taking names!

[@tomdudley5314]

Great video and really helpful to see snap shots of the stats and your thoughts on combos or using certain units within the game. Eagerly await further videos, consider me hooked!

[@peterwalker05]

Absolutely lapping up any old world content you guys put out. Top tier stuff.

[@XandersArcaneStudy]

Awesome breakdown! Looking forward to watching them all

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Will get them out when we can

[@radiodread111]

Building my dwarf army, but have some old nurgle warriors. I like my boys solid. Paint up a demon prince and I'll have an army.

[@iandimitri0044]

Great video! Thanks for making these!!!

[@Campaigner82]

Since Chaos Dwarves and Vampire Counts are “legacy” factions I’m leaning into Warriors of Chaos. I like strong Toughness. This is the first video of swuarebased thst I finish. The others are so long.

[@Scheduledd]

"I'm not 100% certain that the bonuses outweigh the massive negative of rolling a one", man, is Stupidity, you are no longer transform in a chaos spawn, the Gaze of the Gods looks crazy strong.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Fair enough!! Let's roll for some gods

[@Na_bro_leon]

Downside is that basically nothing let's you re-roll a failed Stupidity test anymore (BSB doesn't anymore), so Stupidity is now WAY more risky!

[@brandonburton260]

I really appreciate these videos. Really informative and succinct. I'm looking forward to when you do Beastmen!

[@TheLunchBreakPainter]

I couldn’t help to start writing a list…lots of armour!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

KNIGHTS!

[@TheLunchBreakPainter]

All the chaos ‘Tanks’!

[@airjamy]

The Hellcannon actually sounds pretty bad to me. It is very expensive, you kinda want it in combat as well, but you can't do that because it is Move or Fire. Sounds like a unit that needs to do 2 things to be efficient, but can do neither.

[@Zaphodox]

In 8th I loved running champions on Disc O Tzeentch. They were really cheap and all they needed was a great weapon to really cause some problems in the back line. No discs in Old World (fingers crossed for the future) so maybe time to look at chariots 🤔

[@MiniatureRealms]

Another great run down, love these videos.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Glad you like them!

[@FastCavalry]

Almost finished painting my S to D army for AoS and I have a 4th edition Warhammer Fantasy Chaos army too. Not sure I will be able to resist a 3rd army of Chaos warriors

[@GhostGuitars]

My favourite source of Warhammer fantasy info. Love your work, Rob

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks so so much

[@neilkirkley1500]

Great video subbed mate!

[@hellboy_bloodbowl7981]

It's just another banging video from the best Old World YT channel. #squarebased #squarebass #fishshapes

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

#squareblessed

[@RyanDattilio]

I hope this channel gets to 250K subscribers

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

That's so kind of you! ME TOO

[@urzaplanewalker]

I really like these reviews, although I'd really appreciate a couple sample lists at the end to build toward for new players.

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Those will be in future videos

[@voncrumb]

this absolutely rocks, thanks Rob!

[@Witch_finder]

I never comment on videos but thanks for making this you and Val got me so hyped for chaos and old world it’s all I can think about.

[@stoickes]

Wrote this so you’d be excited!! Thanks for the working so hard on this!

[@tegangarland5024]

The Hell Cannon is just a beautiful miniature, excited to see it return to glory.

[@nurglematthew893]

Fuxk yes! I AM A CHAOS PLAYER!

[@Zaphodox]

Having studied my shiny new Ravenong Hordes the only thing Is I hope that in the Chaos Warriors Arcane Journal they have a Maurader “Karl” so I can field a pure marauders force.

[@Slothasaur]

Let's go! So much stuff I want to theorycraft and try out on the table, it's going to be difficult to not end up with nearly all of my points spent on three units hahaha Great video, and one I'm definitely going to be rewatching a few more times

[@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith]

Casting bunkers! Casting bunkers everywhere!

[@RicketySettra]

I feel like each vid just gets better!

[@kylevaldez4793]

Really enjoyed the breakdowns. Nobody does it better.

[@darrenhazelden2340]

Havent chosen between wood elf or chaos yet, but so happy that my 2 choices were the first 2 😂

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

You lucky son of a hahaha

[@fkaroundhandleit]

I forgot chaos can take so many other chaos style armies. I really want to play beastmen, but since they're not supported. I can play chaos warriors.

[@jackrogers5712]

Beastmen are supported. It's Daemons that are a legacy faction.

[@abyssus9304]

More demon prince build idea's would be great! Iv been playing with possible layouts for a few days and have started going crazy! Also any idea on what size of warrior\chosen blocks will be optimal?

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

TELL ME THEM

[@anderslundtoft2315]

We wanna hear your builds on deamon princes! @@SquareBasedOldWorld

[@leonardodosvinci4130]

A brilliant and concise primer with very little fat on it, good things man! Although it still makes me twitch when I hear Khorne + Wizard. I think the lore can give way for the multi option Chaos, so much scope with the marks. Shame they got rid of the flesh hounds, super fast magic immune skirmish units were fun.

[@deethom1987]

Loved this vid, thanks rob!

[@-inquisitor-9689]

Excellent video really pumped for this

[@jorkbartoschkozlowski9097]

Beautiful video, very informative and nice editing and explanation. Love the enthusiasm!❤ A constructive criticism is; I would have included the enhancements too (arcane items, magic items, weapons like runesword and armour here in the video too). To see as player what they do :).

[@themainstager]

I think showing example pictures of the models would really help me understanding which unit you’re referencing, I don’t know a lot of them by name 😅 I am loving your content though!

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

Thanks for.feedback. I'll try

[@sps62487]

Finally get to use my Demon Stone throwers. Never was a fan of the kill the Front and you don't get to attack back from 6th. Gotta get some games in. It just seems like Chosen bunkers and chosen knight hammers are the way to go with Some hex and buff spells while dropping strength 5 mini pies in the enemy

[@Begawow]

Love the review!! Hoping to see dwarfs soon ❤

[@wesleylancedixon7173]

Chaos Trolls: "I'm not really sure if I love them or really love them." LOL Trolls are awesome. I've got a bunch of the retro Stone Trolls I'll be using as Chaos Trolls (will be painted in "Chaos" colours). "...loads of solo Trolls." This!!! Awesome idea. I was going to run units of 3, but units of 1 sounds way better. Great overview, thanks!

[@user-bz6xg9rq2m]

Good job, very clear, thanks a lot!

[@stephanecambacedes2654]

Thank you very much for this outstanding presentation of Warriors of Chaos :-D

[@SquareBasedOldWorld]

My pleasure