God of War Ragnarök Spoilercast - Let's Talk About THAT Ending

*SPOILER WARNING* Do not watch this unless you've finished God of War Ragnarök!
The Access hosts have finished the story of God of War Ragnarök and can't wait any longer to talk about that ending! What does the ending mean for our beloved characters and for the future of the series? If you too have reached the game's epic conclusion, join us for some spoilerific chat!
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[@joshturnbull8330]

Kratos saying to Atreus to open his heart was the pivotal point where the fates changed.

[@demetriusmontrell]

Yes for me too. It was Kratos now has learn something different from what he’s use to being around and finally had a change of heart

[@leowest2203]

It's because it was the choice that Groa couldn't expect him to make, and that was because Faye prepped him for it. Love the message about fate

[@GodOfWarConnoisseur]

Facts

[@demetriusmontrell]

Groa didnt foreseen, both him and his son, and none of her prophecies. They were not present in her visions. Faye play her part into Kratos learning to open his heart to promote change and I think that why we got that flashback of her in the game.

[@MeciePeace]

"Loki will go. Atreus remains.". Beautiful ending got me all in the feels. "The culmination of love is grief." Another beautiful line. 😊 I enjoy every moment of this game.

[@The_Anko]

As a father, this line got me pretty hard! Hard tearing

[@terranncegilmore]

I'm not tearing up reading this

[@MeciePeace]

@@turanx0 Yeah I mixed up the wording a bit. 🤣

[@Miadaskate]

"A hole. What gets bigger the more you take away? a hole." A hole in all our hearts after this game!!! 😢

[@Flanders989]

That ending scene where Kratos sees people worshipping him, as a loved god, makes it so much better after Odin asked him if he's ever known love like that before. Makes that scene so much more meaningful.

[@kye231g6]

i agree with this soooo much! this was definitely a defining moment for kratos as a character

[@solartyrant9049]

This game was especially emotional for me. My dad was the one that got me into God of War as a teen playing the Greek games. And he passed away a couple years ago, so the father son moments in this one and the themes of accepting loss and questioning why things happen really hit home for me

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

That's awesome bro.

[@MemphisFlash2710]

Hope you are alright. The whole game had to refectory moments but that got me

[@NaliaDanger]

Hands down, my favorite character was Sindri. His character arc, the acting, his relationship with Atreus, all of it.

[@TheStarkz]

It was SO good. I love Sindri.

[@Lynzilla0525]

When he comes to Broks funeral still wearing the blood and grime just broke me.

[@demetriusmontrell]

Yes and they left an opening for him bcuz now he’s hurt and alone so they can definitely build from his angry

[@Parialated]

@Meechi king while also showing how dangerous and strong he can actually be during ragnarok...also it's a tragedy he inadvertently robbed brok of the afterlife.

[@demetriusmontrell]

@@Parialated yes I agree

[@Ryuken_27]

Did anyone else see Thrud pick up Thor's hammer and fly off. I loved finding this part

[@grimquest5054]

I didn't even see Thrud at first and just went "We get Mjolnir at last, mwahuaha!" - well, next time!

[@vicrattlehead5051]

@@grimquest5054 "my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined"

[@kingofthewoods8213]

One line that got me was when Atreus was speaking to Mimir after the final battle and told him he thinks of him as a second father 🥲

[@shadowlinkbds]

"Loki will go. Atreus.... Atreus remains." No lie that one scene broke me and made me cry emotionally hard.

[@CaptainCJ97]

Iron giants vibes

[@HPATDH715]

The whole fight with Garm and him becoming Fenrir was my favourite part.

[@cmsmithy1234]

What a game, personally my favourite moment has got to be annoying the squirrel Ratatoskr by ringing the chimes repeatedly.

[@ABadassDragon]

Lol

[@smudge1983ther3al]

Did you shoot the chimes with an arrow as Atreus?

[@cmsmithy1234]

@@smudge1983ther3al No?!?!?! Does something different happen???????

[@BL00MYB0Y]

Go away you hulking dingbat 😂

[@smudge1983ther3al]

@@cmsmithy1234 there is a comment. Along the lines of...."only magic axes work on the chime.....and he only answers to somone whos balls have drop"

[@hungry_sailor9470]

This is absolutely my game of the year, I’ve played through everything twice now,looking forward to NG+ so I can do it again

[@simonross46]

So excited for this. Got my platinum shortly after Ash and managed to avoid spoilers too. Ragnarok was an epic experience and it's so good to hear what other people thought of it too! Also, love the podcast and really appreciate all the work you guys put into it. Thank you Access!

[@davidmorris8075]

I want to genuinely thank you guys for being here,I have been battling some personal things in my life,and watching this was just like a much needed release,I laughed and smiled for the first time in over a week,it just wholesome and friendly content and I can't think you enough for everything y'all do,Thank you Access sincerely

[@magas1235]

Hope you feel better soon mate

[@wpdenni]

I genuinely thought that we were gonna do a side quest about getting Brock's soul piece back when Sindri first told us about it.

[@UnrealGenius]

I did the entire Crater with Atreus just before Ragnarok, made that ending hit even harder!

[@euqifera696]

I did the Crater with Atreus too, cried at the ending and now I felt lost and can't find him anywhere right now 😭....

[@leep8308]

Me too

[@BigBillyBounce]

Curious if anyone heard the dialogue with Mimir and Kratos when he asks if they taught him to woo? And Mimir says he taught him how he wish he had wooed women😢

[@shadow23498]

i did per chance and i find it as a nice touch, i can't image kratos being someone who can woo easily

[@bigboychris446]

Yes! I need to hear everyone’s thoughts on the ending. To me it feels like they could do a smaller spinoff game Chains of Olympus style with Atreus and then a Mainline game with Kratos again.

[@andray310]

Yes exactly. I think Atreus will get his own game like Miles Morales. Although they said no more Norse games so is the Atreus games under the same rules or were they speaking of Kratos games specifically ?

[@bigboychris446]

@@andray310 I’m not sure but yeah I was thinking the same thing with Miles Morales as well. It’d just be called “God of War: Atreus” I guess although I hope they’re more creative then that with their names lol

[@andray310]

@@bigboychris446 I like “God of Chaos” Has a certain ring to it. But man I would honestly love DLC of Ragnarok. As either Atreus or Freya

[@CaptainCJ97]

I'll be down

[@naeemakbarakash]

I love Kratos more than anything but i think Kratos has earned his rest... Before overdoing it and ruining it somehow I wish they stop and maybe continue with a different character altogether

[@nyyxs]

I experienced teary eyes numerous times throughout the game; several times a tear even escaped down my cheek. This game was so beautifully done. I cannot give enough praise to all involved from start to finish, what a memorable experience.

[@culershub7509]

Man no doubt this game was absolutely insane a banger of a game

[@d3mystic93]

When I first saw the mural about Kratos in Jotunheim, I thought that since it was destroyed it meant that Kratos would 'destroy' his fate once again. I always felt something was off about Tyr ever since he was shown in the trailers because we have Mimir who was once Odin's closest confidant and he suffered a lot worse than Tyr. My suspicions increased to dangerous levels when Tyr, after you free him, mentions something like, 'Those guys were the ones bringing food for me.' Tyr, the god who defied Odin at every step was living a relatively smooth life. And like Ash said, when I saw Lunda join the forge, I was like 'Oh no. Looks like goodbye Brok or Sindri.' My favorite fight was against Vanadis, and that made me wish for a fight against the true Queen after Ragnarok just as battle practice or something. No helpers, just Kratos v Freya, one-to-one. Kratos blowing Gjallarhorn is one of my favorite moments from the game but the top one has to be Kratos getting the spear, mainly because of what I think he was feeling at that time. It is not the first time Kratos has used a spear. The last time he used one was in Ghost of Sparta. Given to him in Sparta, it represented the faith and love the Spartans had in their god (see Odin, Kratos knew that kind of love and devotion). Kratos gave the spear and shield to Deimos, his brother, during their fight with Thanatos. Kratos left the spear on his brother's grave as a blessing and so it was really heart-warming to see the downwards 'V' spartan symbol during the forging of the spear and having it blessed by someone Kratos thought of as a friend-almost-brother.' The game has some nice references to the 2018 game. The mugs Brok brings out for dinner are the ones we sold to him as artifacts in 2018. This makes me think that they might have used the other stuff we gave them as well. Also, we can see Ivaldi's workshop/maze arena from the Misty fields in Niflheim. You can also find Sinmara in the misty fields after Ragnarok. She's a stone statue but you can hear her crying.

[@Saetanigera]

"Defend you valor" Gna, new valkyrie queen, is a post game fight in Muspelheim

[@d3mystic93]

@@Saetanigera I don't mean Gna, I defeated her and defended my valor. There's only ever been one true queen of the Valkyries, Freya. I wanted to fight end-game Freya one-on-one with all her abilities unlocked, Vanir and Valkyrie, iust for funsies.

[@Domino2097]

the thing i liked was the the random convos where M'mir was asking about god of War Ghost of Sparda and God of War 2 etc. as someone who has played them all really enjoyed that

[@hokagestorm]

During that odin/tyr reveal when everyone was shocked angry running away then deciding it's time to ragnarok the whole universe I just stood there for a minute and I was like......Does no one care where the real Tyr is or were they all just like F that guy wherever he is 😂

[@drewworth1568]

I have to ask here, did anyone else think the last shrine that Kratos opens showing him as a god people love was painted by Angrboda? It looked like it was her painting style that we saw in the Jotunheim bit, it didn’t look like the shrines we’d seen through those two games. At least to me.

[@d3mystic93]

If you look closely, then you would notice that the shrine was painted over the original shrine which showed Kratos' demise indicating that Kratos changed his fate, so probably much more recent than other shrines. Angrboda is the only one who could do that and if not her, then probably her mother.

[@drewworth1568]

I thought that was the case! It was a nice touch, showing Angrboda moving past the prophecy she had been protecting for so long to state her own beliefs regarding what she thought the future would be and who she thought Kratos would become.

[@ElinaMirjami]

This is a really nice concept. So many times there are games that I would love to talk about and hear opinions on, but my friends haven't played them so I have no one to talk to. I would've loved to hear more about Freya and her journey in this game, because that was one of my favorite aspects of it.

[@MariaIsabel_Fufuria]

Yeeeeesss! been looking forward to this discussion. I absolutely loooove God of War Ragnarok! For many reasons, it has a special place in my heart and one of the games I will always treasure. Hats off to Santa Monica Studio!

[@LAnimeMaster]

I was really hoping we'd get something like this. So happy to see you guys do this!

[@timothyoswald8618]

The animations and feeling of using Draupnir... just so punchy and truly Spartan. What an addition.

[@galadila5444]

All the clues that Odin was Tyr were simply brilliant. I thought that Tyr was acting weird, but I just chalked it up to being imprisoned for god knows how long. But it made so much sense, why was it so easy to find him? But also if Tyr wasn't able to give Atreus the answers he sought he would ultimately decide the only way to get his questions answered is by going to Odin, and Odin ensured that happened. Also him calling Freya Frigg, and of course the accent mark being non-present whenever Tyr speaks.

[@holliswilliams8426]

Same, his behaviour was so weird I don't know why I didn't realise it wasn't him.

[@withoutthejuice7193]

This game truly teaches us how to grow and be better, something I never expected to learn from a video game.

[@Poisyndart77]

Was hoping y'all would do one of these :D

[@JoaLoft]

Fully understood Sindri's anger after what happened. And it definitely changed him, because he was always portrayed as a shy, sometimes uncertain and mysophobic dwarf. Seeing him lash out and sound that broken at Tyr's Temple is the moment that really got to me. The battle with Odin did not last long enough for me after what happened to Brok, and it probably never would have.

[@fuschiatheghoul3163]

Great timing, I just got the platinum yesterday 😺

[@andykegs5584]

Been putting this video on hold but got the Platinum last night so it’s now the right time to see what these lovely people think.

[@Waqster94]

Was hoping you talked more about Freya growth, but for me I loved the ending where artreus is walking after killing Odin, especially when he reaches Freya and she talks to him as an adoptive mother, the 4 (kratos, artreus, mimir and Freya) have become somewhat of a family and side note, I think storywise they’re hinting at a romance between kratos and Freya (wouldn’t be surprised in next game they have a kid)

[@artheals8869]

I really hope not. I don’t think Kratos and Freya have that kind of chemistry and it would feel super forced and un earned.

[@supanovakane]

Loki's/Atreus mask is the same mask from The Mask movies..

[@RoryStarr]

No one is ever going to believe me on this (though I have texts to prove it) but I clocked the Tyr twist extremely early--even before he sees the alternate prophecy. I had two things going for me, though: (1) I'm a writer and I think like a writer. I asked myself what would be the character reason for tyr to not just oppose war but literally any action at all. (2) I am well-read in Norse myth and knew Odin was a shapeshifter. The key thing really is pacifism does not equal inaction. The only person that would want total inaction was Odin.

[@miquellopez7185]

This could have been 4 hours long and I wouldn't have even noticed. Much love from Pasadena, Maryland! ❤️

[@ryanmitchell7555]

It was the bit at the end where Mimir solves Broks riddle which I had forgot about after so much happened

[@notoriousbmc1]

Just came because I like that your making this video. The Ragna is still rõking for me, so I'll watch sometime in Spring.🤟

[@jamielee5695]

Finally, I can watch this video!!! Perfect, after that I just want to talk to someone about it and now I can. What a game!!

[@Joeindimension]

I didn't expect to watch the entire thing but that was so interesting, excellent spoilercast.

[@CruzCarde]

Came back 8 months later because i just finished the game! What a masterpiece.

[@desmondwhoa8779]

Just got the platinum for GOWR, so its time to watch the real ending with the team. Loved the game and love watching you lot gush about it.

[@jasonparry3220]

‘What do I call you?’ The lost heart reaching line

[@allfun9876]

My favourite moment was Atreus and Kratos in hellhiem acknowledging they are both messed up without each other and they both need each other and they promise to keep each other voice in their head everytime things get messy. It's a moment that summarizes all the work from both 2018 and ragnarok.

[@SkeeLoGreene]

That reunion was incredibly well done. The journey thru Helheim, the fight with Garm, etc. It all was a great set up to their eventual reconciliation. I loved it

[@crypticgh0st622]

AN AMAZING ENDING!! and an exceptional game definitely G.O.T.Y

[@michaelwill5972]

Was waiting for something like this

[@99PTR99]

Finally got to watch this after getting the platinum last night. Fully agree with Rob's take on the crater, definitely my favourite area, hands down. Favourite boss was probably the one that gave me the most grief and therefore the most satisfaction, Gna. And I popped the platinum with the funeral trophy. Felt like that was a fitting end but looking back it's left a bigger hole than if I'd saved another trophy til last, so its definitely bittersweet!

[@AgentOttsel]

What did you think was secret of the mask, and what would've happened if Atreus had used it? Would YOU have used it, or do you agree with Kratos that shortcuts to knowledge always come at a price?

[@___Nightbreeze]

28:49 - The game actually managed to trick me on the riddle. I'd heard it in the past but forgot the answer. And I think a short time after the riddle is introduced, Kratos tells Mimir that "nothing" gets bigger the more you take away. And it made my brain go, "Oh, yeah, that's the answer." And I figured Mimir declining Kratos's answer was a joke. So when he actually came up with the right answer at the end, I was glad I had forgotten/was tricked, because it added to the impact.

[@simicantstandyabits1324]

Podsquuuuad! Time to get cozy and listen to my comfort podcast :)

[@FinalRush25]

The ending had me wanting more GoW. Alas, they won’t be making anymore.

[@captainsavvy07]

They're not making anymore in the Norse pantheon, but they're not completely done with GoW games as a whole.

[@razvan1228]

I wanna see this, but i can't since i haven't played the game yet, so i'll save it to watch it later, after i play the game myself. Can't wait.

[@jamesteague5955]

So was Odin Tyr all along or just at the end?

[@noe-williammpessa390]

perfect timing, i just finished the game

[@DominoCapes]

A lot of people might have already pointed this out but there's a subtle hint to the Tyr twist throughout the game. On the subtitles Odin reads as "Tyr" Whereas when you meet the real Tyr after breaking him out of Niflheim the subtitles read "Týr". The accent above the Y is the nod to the twist

[@revolution91156]

If u have the captions on with speaker and u look at fake tyr it doesn't have that apostrophe over the y and if u look at when someone says tyr it has that apostrophe over the y

[@lasthopelost9090]

I like when Kratos open ups to Freya and there interesting relationship

[@8-BitOfEverything]

I can’t watch this yet but I’ll add it to my watch list along with Ash’s platinum run.

[@neilpassarellful]

Made a mental note that this came out and I just beat ragnarok and now I can finally watch this

[@samose07]

I guess I'll Come back to this later this year 😂

[@paulugalde3058]

Sindri's closure is going to be tackled in a future game/dlc right????

[@alexdron7050]

Regards sindris reaction to brok and whether he even got anything out of the kratos/Atreus relationship- the brothers weren’t even talking in the first game until kratos and Atreus forced them back together

[@LiamLivesOn]

I can finally come and watch this!

[@reginoabino2877]

it just occured to me that perhaps odin fulfilled groa's prophecy. If he had left kratos and atreus alone, not impersonating tyr and all, then maybe kratos would turn up dead in atreus' arms. keeping up with the theme of fulfilling one's destiny when they adamantly try to avoid it.

[@NPC0010]

They did a really good job with Sindri. I want to know what happens to Sindri next, I'm interested in that more than a continuation for Atreus.

[@yellan499]

A neat little detail is that faux Tyr doesn't have an accent on his name in the subtitles, but real Týr does when you free him.

[@guilhermesalles1789]

There's 2 things, 2 realizations I've come to after I finished and got the Platinum in the game, and I'm curious if anyone came to these conclusions as well! The 1st thing is that, in the ending of GOW 2018, it was a clear path of what would happen next, we KNEW we would get to Ragnarök eventually, so we knew where it was headed, just not any of the specifics. But now at the end of this game... we really REALLY don't know where the sequel is gonna take us next. We don't know if we'll have a GOW game totally focused on grown-up Atreus or an even older Kratos, we just don't know where we headed next, and that's exciting! And the 2nd thing is that, in 2018 we found out Brok got blue skin because he didn't wear gloves when smithing, so then his skin eventually got blue. Now Sindri, after all he's been through, ISN'T WEARING GLOVES AS WELL, so that means that most likely, the next time we see him, HE'S gonna be blue just like Brok, and not caring for hygiene at all. I just can't help but being excited at what the future will bring!

[@chrisa7409]

Brok was blue because he was dead and brought back but missing a piece of his soul

[@terranncegilmore]

"To grieve deeply is to have loved fully" "The culmination of love is grief" Like, damn.

[@aaronsparrow2650]

The clue for Tỳr was there the whole time. Whenever he spoke, it showed "Tyr" and not "Týr" but it shows "Týr" whenever others say his name

[@GoodKingMort]

I have finally finished the game! Oh my god, the cinematic-ness of the final chapter was unparalleled! Odin deceiving everyone by using Tyr’s likeness. The Gjallahorn scene. Sindri’s anger. All of it. Loved the actor who played Odin as well. So subtle. I’ve also just learnt that the real Tyr is alive and well in prison.

[@davidgolke8856]

What Brock and Sindri got out of the relationship is they new that the father son duo was special and would bring upon great things. They got to be part of something great and knew that because they clearly knew about the prophecies and also had a tie to Feya which added to what they got out of it

[@jack_knife-1478]

Goty!👍 the game is just epic!!!

[@techfly3]

if you check back in sindris house tyr is looking around lokis room

[@mr.stealyourjams]

Getting the platinum trophy for Ragnarök was one of the proudest moments in my life. I felt so accomplished and cried when it was all said and done.

[@happyjam92]

I wasn't ready for it to be over when I finally got the trophy. I cannot wait for the next game.

[@raccoonpeddler6730]

we get a good hint at who could become hel when atreus awakens after the odin fight and see's odins raven is still alive

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

My favorite fight was with Heimdall. Total badassery.

[@Enaz924]

“Once the credits roll there is a ton of game left over” and the only thing I had left was to finish the berserkers Gna and the Asgard remnants lol

[@eatenbyghouls1849]

I think atreus will travel to another realm (celtic, Egyptian etc) in the hunt for the giants and thatl be were it kicks off in the next game

[@gLobbZ]

The "boy" counter went from a million in 2018, to literally one time in Ragnarok. When Atreus goes to Asgard the first time and Kratos yells it at him!

[@kaja5169]

This Game is so huge. You can Platinum game and see 100% every region in map yet thete are so many hidden stuffs like runic to secret boss fight. Like Every statue of enemies you come region from troll to dragon can be awakened using certain hilt for boss fights. Beating them gives better sruffs hope PlayStation Access team do those in stream maybe call it beyond 100%. Its almost like over 100% completion video of Access is seen by Game director who said he s fan of channel

[@aidangray4731]

When Kratos blew Gjallarhorn … his speech leading up to that, and the music! Phenomenal.

[@sebastiencloutier9209]

I don't know if you caugh that up but, if you keep the subtitle on, Tyr doesn't have an accent on his "y". When you deliver the real Tyr, it is spelled correctly. A neet little detail! Also, go back to Kratos home. There is a little something there, and i like the interaction post game in Jotunheim with the Giant Girl and Fenrir.

[@jmroz311]

my favorite part is when Kratos says "You are ready...." it ties it all back to the beginning of the first game when he tells Atreus you are not ready. Such a good ending.

[@grimquest5054]

I just realized the part with Odin at the very end matched with the prophecy. This is brilliant! Offtopic: I want the Legacy of Kain reboot to be like GoW! Semi-Openworld, intense combat, brilliant writing, actors and music. Both games are just the absolute gold standard of how a 3rd person action adventure should be like.

[@cameronparkes7356]

You've got to applaud the bit when Sindri obliterates all the Asgard war machines with ease. Had me on my feet, whooping like a mad man :)

[@DerekHoscorner]

Awesomeness

[@terranncegilmore]

The Crater is INCREDIBLE

[@marianix1591]

My favourite part is Kratos’ character development! He is a different man by the end of the game!

[@Davewonder31]

Playing as Atreus was awesome for me personally

[@Jakeyisdead]

We would do task's for Brok and Sindrie all the time in GoW2018 so I'd say give and take

[@williamjackson8782]

I play the song Raeb’s Lament daily. If you know the song you know why.

[@Mortified_Penguin]

My girlfriend SOMEHOW knew that Tyr wasn't Tyr, JUST because it was "too easy" to rescue him near the start the game. THAT was her reason for guessing that God-like twist!

[@cmsmithy1234]

Did anyone else think that we’d have to go on a quest for the missing piece of Brok’s soul? Cos I did

[@shadowlinkbds]

If only

[@grigoregruesome3606]

I thought we were and I was dreading it. I think it’s more important that we and the characters took Brok as he was. The other dwarves may sense something is wrong but Brok was loved by his friends regardless. Also I didn’t was a random fetch quest to fix what wasn’t broken.

[@cmsmithy1234]

@@grigoregruesome3606 nice point, I totally agree

[@jamesteague5955]

Such great moments and lines that transcend into real life.

[@thehorsefromGOTs8]

wish this one channel that completely spoiled this ending in the title/thumbnail a month or so ago had the same respect as you all.

[@ryanjones3097]

My favorite part of the game is the conversation kratos & atreus have sitting down before leaving Helheim.

[@bradleydunlop1615]

Brok will always be remembered as a legendary character.

[@crashwithkirby6708]

Garm was my favourite boss fight

[@CaptainCJ97]

I really wish ngplus came with it at the start damn it. Anyways So much to talk about this game oh man. The twists and turns the calls call backs from the last game & older oh man