God of War Ragnarok - The Hidden Story of Faye vs Thor - How Faye Beat Thor in Battle

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[@SSJBlueVegito]

To be honest, Faye had every right to be furious against someone who basically destroyed her entire race. Her anger is justified by the fact that she’s literally fighting someone who has slain her entire kind while the person who’s done it just sits there, get drunk while reveling in enjoyment for doing such a heinous act.

[@jorgetomedeandradealves8565]

LIKE KRATOS AGAINST ARES AND ZEUS

[@serga7486]

also hes a race traitor so thats extra unacceptable

[@muaddoubledips]

@@serga7486 idk why but the word race traitor tickles me in a very wong way.

[@vince_x_san]

@@muaddoubledips i remember the racist mario vid because of the word "Race Traitor"

[@abnormalnox]

@@muaddoubledips understand why you say that. But thor is half giant

[@adamtheriault6743]

"WE are not OUR failures, WE are not who WE were, WE must be better" Really puts that line in full perspective

[@kingpinpasta2934]

Exactly this is also why I like that Faye never told Kratos about the fight, she’s moved on

[@StareachValcin]

It was nice to know the story of Faye's battle with Thor. It's understandable why she fought him enraged. Thor did kill most of her people, which were technically Thor's people too since he's also half giant. It's impressive that both Thor and Faye survived, especially Thor who was drunk. It is especially impressive that Faye learned from the devastation she helped caused to better herself and eventually Kratos into better people. The fact that Faye had such rage against Thor really does show that she had more in common with Kratos than at first glance. She however chose to be better, and ultimately helped her husband and son to be better too.

[@gtvn2775]

Thor is actually 75% giant, odin is 50% too.

[@millasboo]

@@gtvn2775 Ehh technically cause yimir is Odin‘s grandfather but when buri was born i believe the species split into Æsir gods

[@StareachValcin]

@@gtvn2775 technically true. The Norse god Buri came from ice, and Odin's father Bor did mate with the jotunn Bestla to produce Odin.

[@StareachValcin]

@@millasboo actually Ymir would technically be Odin's great grandfather because Bor is Odin's father and the son of Buri. Odin's grandfather is Buri.

[@Willpower_26]

Kratos: "Death can have me when it earns me 🔥👊😠🗡🔥." Faye: "Justice can burn or be deathly *cold* 💀❄🪓😠." Atreus: "My dad and my mom can beat up your family."

[@pinoyjona]

I like to believe Kratos immediately knew Faye was involved when seeing the frozen lightning but initially refused to believe his beloved is responsible until hearing the spirits that he couldn’t deny any longer.

[@owenjones7522]

No

[@drakofox1362]

That would make sense

[@BeeHatGuy]

@@owenjones7522 no u

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

Faye helped Kratos over come his anger in ways he could not of believed before she came into his life. It's likely hard for him to believe she was capable of such herself but i think Kratos over time realizes the reason she could help him with his anger, was that she once grappled with such anger herself.

[@leonardodehammer8158]

One of the small details I love about this quest line is the fact that the ghost are either flashing with electricity (Mjolnir) or emitting frost particles (Leviathan axe). It gives you the impression of the fact that Faye, who in her (justified) rage is just as a part of the destruction of this valley as Thor, who is continuously depicted as a destroyer. She ironically became the thing that she hated Thor for, to the people of the Crater. Small details like that really makes good stories even better.

[@HeyDrGamer]

I didn’t catch that while playing 😮! Thank you for highlighting 🙌🏾

[@harkaway9006]

That must be why she devoted herself to protecting others from the Aesir.

[@beckyweiss6072]

I believe there's also a slab in the valley with runes carved into it that say "i'm sorry I'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry....." I'm convinced that was Faye

[@user-ni7ui1nk8p]

@@beckyweiss6072wow… that is 100% correct

[@misterkapable]

Why is everyone focused on the surface bullshit. "Who won"..... The biggest take away is that she was a rage monster just like her husband. But she learned to control her anger and taught Kratos how to "Be Better."

[@bobbywalker224]

This makes me want a Faye DLC even more

[@gpavl1177]

Can you imagine the ending to that dlc being you fighting Thor

[@wyattbascom9711]

@@gpavl1177 Alternatively, a fight between Kratos and Faye as he arrives in Midgard

[@daniellemills5150]

@@wyattbascom9711 yessssssss that would be amazing😭😭😭

[@Money_maker12]

Well we're not getting that

[@Noone-wp6vj]

@@gpavl1177the beginning fight be with kratos when they first met

[@arthurmorgan069]

Thor: “This feels familiar” Beginning of game me: “Huh?” End of game me: “Brilliant foreshadowing.”

[@andrewrodriguez8492]

You seriously didn't immediately think of Faye when he said that? Brok and sindri made the axe for her to fight against thor

[@FezCaliph]

@@andrewrodriguez8492I thought he may have heard of or even seen Kratos before.

[@Nobodysurvivesevenonebit]

Faye is badass . As expected from kratos wife

[@hansalanson3497]

Here's my bit of theory about Thor: part of the reason Thor is so gloomy and adamant about not being able to change is because, like those of the Jotnar, he too received prophetic visions, about his unbending servitude to Odin, about his massacre of the Giants and all that. But because he was raised in a culture that shun Jotnar qualities, he did not know how to face, let alone deal with these visions, thus he quietly kept them to himself and saw them become true one by one; thus enforcing the assumption that they're inevitable; even Jotnars who live among other giants suffer this defeatist mindset (Angroboda) the thing is, he's COMPLETELY alone in the dark. This is why he's so desensitized about nearly everything, and often seeks a way to escape thoughts, because when thoughts form, those prophecies haunt him and rid him of any sense of purpose he had left. I believe part of the prophecy he saw was him getting killed by Kratos, thus why the Spartan got him so intrigued and was pivotal to his character development (tough short-lived). Thor was not pissed that he was losing against Kratos, he wanted to be done with it, but when Kratos refused to finish the fight and kill him when he had the chance, it was not just a person showing that they can be better; it was proof that the inevitable, never were.

[@thatoneguy1232]

Couple things: 1. I love that we finally got to see who Faye was and what she looked liked. Atreus definitely picked a lot up from her. It’s nice to have this. We hear a lot about her but we finally get to see! 2. Where’s Atreus? Who is watching him while they’re out hunting? Has he been born yet in these dreams/flashbacks? He was there as an infant in one of these sequences. 3. I kind of wish we saw the other side of Faye. Not the fair, soft spoken women with a bit of a snark or sass to her(another thing Atreus picked up). Where’s the fierce and driven warrior that she was? We don’t get to see that side. Granted it’s likely she, like Kratos, was retired from that life by the time she meant him, but still. In the last game and this one we hear that she had other sides. She was strong. She drank(never with Kratos). Even had a temper! SHE FOUGHT THOR!!! Man I want to see that. I know why we don’t. Kratos never saw this so we don’t get to. Still tho. Hearing the story was cool. 4. I kinda like how both Kratos and Mimir discovers some hidden truths about their loved ones. I don’t think there’s dialogue that ties it in but still I like that. 5. How’d she die? Was she sick? She seemed fine chin the flashbacks even when preparing for her inevitable death. Was she just holding back the pain or sickness? Was it her fight with Thor? That seems unlikely to me. That was a while ago, no? Before Atreus. Unless it was an injury so bad but unseen and took its time to catch up with her? We saw this woman lifting trees. What made her so ill? Maybe I missed something.

[@shawmiserix404]

death it can be sudden and mysterious had a friend of mine who was happy and chipper everything was fine and dandy party was going great no issues she went to go pee and just died there on the john coroner was stumped and wrote it off as natural causes my friend was 14 i was 12 haunts me to this day point is faye might have just died for absolutely no reason at all

[@rydekk-4644]

Giants arent immortal but can live for a very long time as long as they have a connection to jotunheim. Faye lost her connection after she chose to stay behind in midgard. Her time ran out, basically. Dying peacefully, a gift rarely given to giants.

[@kin4386]

I love that they included this mini backstory for Faye. It shows that while she may appear as some kind of moral Angel, she's had similar issues and mistakes that Kratos had. With her rage resulting in the destruction of a whole civilization and even ending lives. She only ended up being as emotionally intelligent as she was because of what she learned from her own mistakes. No wonder her and Kratos were perfect for each other.

[@HowlOfTheSun]

I've never been able to afford GoW 4 or Ragnarok but your videos have single-handedly made this one of my all time favorite games! You do amazing work!

[@VideoGameSophistry]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@MrTrueCaller619]

Gaming industry don't deserve your money my friend, it's long dead with the feminist/homosexual ideologies .

[@youssefaddas4724]

I could buy the game for u if u want

[@hey_its_travis]

@@youssefaddas4724 that's awesome, hope he actually gets a notification for it.

[@chadwickdavis8529]

It’s not expensive if you go to gamestop

[@jaxsgamesiguess9731]

I loved exploring the crater it really felt like a dlc expansion and was really fun in general

[@dinodudeface6551]

It was magical the first playthrough

[@zyonhenderson67]

@@dinodudeface6551 Most definitely. Was definitely a highlight of the game

[@user-ni7ui1nk8p]

YO why did I feel like it was a DLC too. That was such a constant thought I had. I was getting large Pokémon DLC vibes from it. Very good part of the game. Confusing, but awesome.

[@jeocarrillo8656]

It would’ve been so cool to see a mini movie of Faye during her battle with Thor, or atleast a clip of the battle where she and Thor both made the frozen lighting

[@remedy-1879]

In order for Faye to even handle the “press O” actions and carry his son means she’s really strong. Lol

[@zsu-23-4shilka2]

She definitely pegged Kratos at least once before Atreus was born

[@alastortheradiodemon469]

@@zsu-23-4shilka2The only woman capable of dominating Kratos

[@Bjorn0war]

@@zsu-23-4shilka2 stop sharing your disgusting and weird fantasies over internet and applying them on video game characters 🤮🤡

[@tim.noonan]

@@alastortheradiodemon469 Jury’s still out on Freya. They still haven’t matched up 1-on-1.

[@bennypatrick6535]

​@@zsu-23-4shilka2 You mean B O I

[@Kevink4240]

I'd love to have seen even a slightly flashback from that frozen striking thunder light If Kratos would have touched it. (if it would have been possible by SMS) That would have helped us alot to picture Faye in full rage fighting for her life. Picture that! Whooooaaaa!

[@VideoGameSophistry]

Agreed

[@mettatonneoex]

She wasn't just going for her life Thor was Her Zeus only difference is he was a broken drunk dull man compared to Odin who was a horrifying figure. Although Zeus is on a whole different level being a monster already and only getting worse after he allowed the box to be opened

[@ssctiyo4735]

Let the rage of the Jötunns fuel your axe Faye Jötnar Rage is available

[@bignick2k215]

Great side mission to do before the end battle. Faye vs Thor left so much devastation and innocents died in because of their fury. It’s almost like a lesson that Kratos, Atreus/Freya, and Mimir have to learn. The “open your heart to it” speech Kratos gives Atreus makes it so perfect.

[@laveilgray]

I think I speak for everyone when I say we need to see this fight

[@jedipadwan20]

For once I can say you do speak for me lol I wanna see this fight too if not play it

[@soleonshae8657]

I love seeing the representation of Lafaye vs Thor in Gow, it was so unexpected, but not only did it affect the story, I think it's why Leviathan's element is ice. The frost giant Lafaye, compared to the last guardian of the giants, and wielder of the ice axe Leviathan, Faye; mother to Atreus, instead of father to Loki

[@Mrsir529]

To me it was pretty obvious that Faye fought Thor since at the beginning of the game when you create the frozen lightning bolt Thor says “this looks familiar” and when you go to vanaheim in the crater there is another frozen lightning bolt, and the fact that Faye had the axe before kratos

[@yowamushiguy9423]

Their story is so similar and that they both were good for each other... the story of GOW continues to unveil more and more beautiful stories just shows what a masterpiece it is even after you've finished the game

[@djnumonic]

I LOVE that you're VO'ing these now. You have a good voice for it.

[@aledg25]

Faye didn’t beat Thor. Their battle ended in a stalemate

[@chuoihat1679]

And thor was drunk and sloppy as well

[@SSJBlueVegito]

@@chuoihat1679Doesn’t really matter if Thor was drunk or not, the fact that she was able to contend with him is impressive enough. Thor isn’t less powerful when he’s drunk.

[@acevolkren2874]

@@SSJBlueVegito I agree with your last statement, although it is well noted that during their battle "the fair-haired woman wielded the axe with absolute precision" on the other hand, Thor was sloppy and sluggish due to being drunk. While I agree that Thor isn't any less powerful, he lacks the precision Faye had. He is fighting for his life. That mere fact alone makes Faye a complete badass. Still won't change the fact that if Thor was sober, he may have won after a long and drawn-out fight.

[@SSJBlueVegito]

@@acevolkren2874Yeah absolutely, not saying that Faye is stronger than Thor but the feat of her going against a drunken Thor shouldn’t be downplayed.

[@littlebigmarc]

@@chuoihat1679 drunk or not. She was fighting him toe to toe. I understand people usually feel weird about women being powerful.

[@ap4702]

It's a gives depth to why she took Kratos in. She understood the rage because she was no different.

[@kingsleywelch3360]

Yup. Turns out they made for each other.

[@sergentpugsley5137]

Fun fact during the first fight with Thor after the two weapons clash and make the frozen lightning bolt, Thor says “this feels familiar…”. when visiting the Plains in Vanaheim and seeing another frozen lighting bolt and listening to the stories of the spirits that line makes so much more sense

[@VideoGameSophistry]

That is literally the first thing I show in this video

[@danielc.6067]

Faye rlly meant on sight. Considering both parents this must mean Atreus is gonna be one bad son of a gun when he gets older

[@AmroDK]

Very very good video, the way you narrated it and everthing.. Thank you very much I enjoyed it and made me very emotional somehow.

[@elviraweekes3906]

I know someone is going to say that, she fought a drunk Thor he was not at his best. Just so you remember a drunk Thor is the same Thor, that was able to go toe to toe with Kratos so that does not downplay her.

[@arvee3451]

we could even argue that drunken thor is actually the worst thor because he won't be thinking. pure rampage

[@shadow-gr4iw]

That's not true in the first boss fight with Thor, he wasn't drunk. He was planning to drink but didn't do to his promise to his family, we fought a broken depressed or not a drunken one. I'll guess we'll never see a Thor at his Prime and at his 100% best, because then you start to question if shrunken board is the real Thor the how come he didn't kill Kratos immediately with just one punch or a swing with his hammer. And even the same game play he's able to hit so hard to split dimensions, send the giant serpent back in time, hell he has killed an army of giant all on his own with his hammer

[@givenofuckz2313]

At no point was Thor drunk during any of their fight 🤣.. drunk Thor is the one that finally broke his promise to his family.and got dead drunk before going with Atreus to find the mask piece! THAT was DRUNK Thor! Both fights between kratos and Thor were sober and even serious considering Thor was pissed first fight and enraged the second. The ghost in the crator quite literally described Thor as drunk and sloppy whereas Faye was 'drunk' on rage

[@Abdega]

Thor killed many giants while drunk It’s still impressive

[@SSJBlueVegito]

@@shadow-gr4iwThor wasn’t drunk when he fought Kratos both times.

[@KaranShah731]

While Faye was beating Thor destroying Vanaheim, Kratos was busy killing Zeus destroying Olympus

[@calebwilliams790]

She stalemated him.

[@alpha5664]

It took Kratos destroying an entire country to see what revenge costs. When Faye destroyed a valley that was her turning point. Even at her worst she was more emotionally intelligent than Kratos.

[@Mannyhdz0052]

Well Kratos lost a lot more then faye can begin to understand. The Olympians put kratos through hell literally and figuratively.

[@zeedozeedo350]

are you seriously comparing Kratos's past to Faye's past? be real

[@beckyweiss6072]

@@Mannyhdz0052 And Faye lost her people, her entire race to Thor. Kratos and Faye have *quite a lot* in common.

[@Mannyhdz0052]

@@beckyweiss6072 she didn't lose her *entire* race to Thor, When Atreus meets Angraboda we learn that some giants were too afraid of the Aseir coming so they put their souls into the marbles and some giants weren't even anywhere in the nine Realms which is why Atreus/Loki went out to look for them. Therefore Faye didn't lose her entire race unlike Kratos whos entire home was destroyed by zeus in a fit of rage, with Kratos unknowingly killing the last spartan. Yeah no there's no comparison, The Norse God's and Giants hear the tales of the ghost of Sparta in it strikes fear to them but if they were there to witness the events for themselves they wouldn't even think of comparing their pain to the ghosts of Sparta.

[@beckyweiss6072]

@@Mannyhdz0052 Thor slaughter d them, point blank. The few that managed to avoid Thor exited themselves from their body and put their souls into marbles. Their body was separated from their souls, they are dead in the technical sense of the term. Angrboda and her grandmother were incredibly lucky, they’re an outlier. Are you seriously trying to tell me the ruthless persecution and loss, yes loss, of an entire race means nothing compared to what Kratos dealt with? Theyre on equal level. Kratos and Faye both destroyed the liveliehoods of a large amount of people in their rage, and just because one of them wrecked an entire country and the other a region of a land means little. It’s the same concept, different scale. They both destroyed innocent life out of revenge due to their pain. Just because Faye did it on a smaller scale doesn’t means she doesn’t understand Kratos’s pain and gravity of his past actions.

[@AtamskArchadian]

I would love there to be an added hidden cutscene that can be unlocked showing Faye’s battle with Thor, when Ragnarok gets it’s additional content update later this year. I could easily see it being a after credits scene you get for beating new game +.

[@95DOIDO]

someone pointed out in a theory video that is possible that Faye's mother and Thor's mother is the same, that would make Atreus and Thrud cousins, which is kinda cool... and to be fair both Faye and Thor have some similarities, giant blood, red head, blue eyes, really powerful individuals, both have legendary weapons, etc... kinda tragic, if you ask me.

[@youngspooks]

I think Faye and Thor are from the same Jotunar line. That red hair and both their immense strength is my only line of comparison sadly

[@blueshell2484]

Very possible that thors mother had a kid before him

[@springbonnie13939]

The fact that Thor said “This Feels Familar He recognized that lighting bolt And i think that Only happens When The axe and hammer Combines Creating a Large Lighting Bolt

[@IMBIue]

At @7:26 , who was the strange creature Thor was drinking with? 🤔 I know I read a story about Thor having a wager with someone and drinking what it seemed to be mead, but in reality he was drinking water from the sea or something. He was being tricked, I wonder if these stories are the one and the same.

[@thanos_karagiannhs5320]

Thats what i tried to figure out too, my guess is that it might've been some dwarf or maybe a dark elf but i don't think any of that makes sense

[@MagicCardboardBox]

@@thanos_karagiannhs5320 yeah, they'd recognise those. I'm thinking it was an Egyptian god, they'd certainly look strange enough

[@hansalanson3497]

There is an obscure being in the Norse myth called "Utgarda Loki", which roughly means "Loki from beyond the wall" or something. This thing tricked Loki and Thor into doing impossible tasks; Thor was made to drink from a cup that was connected into the ocean and thus never ran out. After Loki, Thor and one other Asgardian I forgot realized they got played, this thing that's supposed to be a Jotnar just disappeared forever.

[@bleekhenderson8805]

Theory: Freya believes she meet Faye as a warrior during the Vanir battles with Aesir in Vanaheim but she didn't have the Axe at the time. I think Faye, either not obtaining the Axe from the Huldra Brother yet or waiting for the right time to reveal it, fought to get close to Thor. She knew Thor was her brother and wanted to stop him from being Odin's pawn. She felt that without Odin's influence Thor would be an ally to the Giants and Vanir. She caught up with in the Mead Hall and tried to convince him to leave Odin and do what his mother Fjorgyn would have wanted by revealing to him that she is his sister. But Thor was drunk and in his belligerence refused to listen to reason. This infuriated Faye and she decided to attack him using the Axe that she had hoped to use along side her brother. They fought a ferocious battle leaving behind many casualties. This saddened Faye which lead her down a path of repentance that eventually caused her to meet Kratos. I think her death is related to the mysterious death of her mother Fjorgyn too. Perhaps their was a curse or illness that Fjorgyn and Faye share. I got more but I'll stop now lol

[@foidly]

honestly, we need a Faye dlc 1. When kratos and Faye met 2. that god damn Thor fight

[@Nexuswalnut33]

I think that the reason why the clash between Thor and faye was bigger than with Thor and Kratos. Kratos was struggleling to hold back his rage and Thor was only there for a blood depth and was not allowed to kill Kratos so both of them was holding back, so it Didn't really have such a big explosion. But i think that the reason why Faye's and Thors clash was bigger was because Faye was really furious so she gave everything she got, while Thor was drunk.

[@Nickfdz95]

Faye furious vs a drunken sloppy Thor . This was probably Faye’s most important battle while Thor expected nothing.

[@rickywyness5230]

You can just tell Kratos was bricked up at the thought of his wife fighting Thor as ferociously as she did. xD

[@devinarthur6559]

0:05 0:06 0:12 0:13 0:15 0:22 13:37 13:38 13:41 13:48

[@jahleelprentice5937]

Is interesting that the bystander’s’ spirits are affected by the magic of Thor and Faye’s weapons when they was fighting

[@Dookieman1975]

Damn even Faye had to learn about the consequences of vengeance and disregarding the lives of those around to deities fighting

[@thefarlander2050]

Part of me wonders what would've happened if Faye never abandoned her rage-fueled days, and instead maintained that level of anger even after meeting Kratos. What would they have done by then? Try and topple Asgard as this unstoppable power couple? Or maybe Kratos, who already saw the tragedy that comes with the destruction of deities, would instead be the one to try and calm Faye, to which if it would work is up for debate. Thanks for making this video and sharing more about Kratos's late wife. Keep up the great work!!!

[@shawmiserix404]

kratos straight refusing to believe faye whent full berserker on thor had me thinking dayum kratos you really be out here thinking so little of yer wife then i realised how different she must've been when he met her

[@chaseteague8733]

I think that Faye would've gotten killed by Thor if she continues so she decided to only protect the ones she loves and so that kratos can manage to kill thor

[@jedipadwan20]

Only that never happened he chose to be better by not killing him an redeeming Thor which he did.

[@imed-ha77]

Thor was fighting for fun, not seriously, unlike Faye, she was fighting with all her might, yet she didn't defeat him, and Thor didn't take a single scratch.

[@awesomeerr8765]

She only survived because Thor was drunk.

[@Pattmore]

Or she was a formidable foe even tho he was drunk

[@ragnarokpxn5196]

Everybody focus on Faye while Thor battled a powerful being in a drunken state and vaguely remembers it. 😂

[@AngraMango]

Tru. Gigachad Thor

[@ajwatcher]

Notice how some of the spirits are either electrified or frozen. It gives us an idea of who got killed by who.

[@imbatmanlol]

I like Faye. However, she didn’t beat thor. She stalemated him. And a drunk thor, who in asgard, could barely hold his own in a bar fight. Let’s not overrate characters we like please

[@kursatkaya8158]

Faye's importance to the Norse saga.. especially in Ragnarök is unimagineable

[@HiganbanaThatBlooms]

I want DLC. Faye vs Thor Faye vs Kratos We all want it! 2023 anyone?

[@waalex11]

Too early production-wise unfortunately, but yes. Hopefully!

[@densenrijslakucs9007]

Each of the spirits have a cold wind or electricity coming out of them when you first meet them, likely a sign of who between Thor and Faye caused their death

[@jiado6893]

Holger is the one who sounds sufficiently freaked out about the whole "I got murdered" thing.

[@OneSensitiveArtist]

I would love to play as Faye in a dlc. Would be awesome to see this fight in gameplay.

[@alpha5664]

Given how Faye and Thor were both alive at the end of their fight means the fight either ended in a stalemate or upon seeing the collateral damage her anger caused she showed Thor mercy.

[@jakehalle3697]

I dont think she would show mercy to the person who single-handedly is full on genociding her rage, and by the sounds of it, it sounds like she was bloodlusted, also it doesnt make sense to show mercy and let someone go whos gonna keep exterminating your race

[@renansantos6533]

Faye is one heck of a badass woman 😀

[@badreedinedjellali1328]

Yeah a beautiful and powerful woman a perfect balance

[@misterandmisisC]

I think it was a stalemate The only Giant I know beat Thor was Starkaðr, the eight arm general

[@Avalanche2015]

To be honest it would of been better if Faye lost to Thor, and the resulting injuries is what caused her early death. She was OP enough already. Altered the future and defied her race, literally changing the outcome of Ragnorak, birthing Loki, wedding Kratos of Sparta, magic strong enough to keep them hidden in Midgard, a rebellion with the dwarves... and she's MORTAL. Being able to stalemate Thor in his bloodlust days... damn laying it on thick now. If she wasn't mortal Kratos wouldn't of even been needed.

[@Dtctr010]

She didn't alter the future though, the Norns state that fate is just the sum of one person's choices. She decided to let Kratos and Atreus choose their path rather than what what was laid out for them and they chose to make a different choice

[@ragnarokpxn5196]

@@Dtctr010 no she hid the truth so they could change the vision the jotuns saw of kratos dieing and Atreus going to Odin. She was teaching Kratos to open his heart during the flashback dreams and Atreus got him to finally see it in the final battle.

[@TheGr8-1]

I agree. It’s ridiculous. More of that ‘bow to you queen’ bs.

[@djblue056]

The lead up to this battle makes perfect sense. Makes total sense why she’d be furious with him and want him dead But she beat him? One on one? I dunno. To me that kind of knocked down the fear I had for Thor. Build her character up while tearing him down. In the previous game he was told to be neigh invincible. Kratos equivalent in the Norse pantheon. It made sense how Kratos was able to beat him, man killed god for a living practically, but my god how powerful is Faye if she beat his ass too? One of the reasons I felt Thor was so dangerous was because prior to Kratos no one could stop him except Odin.

[@Facade953]

Deborah Ann Woll VS Chris Hemsworth from Avengers: Endgame! It was great to see Deborah as Faye. She was remarkable in True Blood and Netflix's Daredevil.😅😀

[@HowlOfTheSun]

literally cant wait for the next vid!

[@jb6725]

I really wished that somehow we could've seen Faye become a beserker and wail on Thor

[@jlev1028]

Nice thumbnail. Did you make it yourself? No sarcasm.

[@youtubecreators384]

When Sindri said Faye was a fierce warrior, he wasn't kidding.

[@amenandhis7kids724]

You gotta love the lore in god of war

[@colinnixon7739]

Faye was strong but let's not forget that thor was drunk as fuck.

[@MagicCardboardBox]

I'm still wondering who or what thor was drinking with... It's just described as a 'creature' that no one recognized. Like, was it an Egyptian god? They would certainly look strange enough to garner that reaction...

[@lakeshowchipshow7539]

They were just referencing the real life mythology where they told a story of Thor competing against giants. In one of the competitions a creature brought a horn that thor was to drink from until empty. He couldn’t finish it and it turns out the giants tricked him because the horn was connected to the sea

[@MagicCardboardBox]

​@LakeShow ChipShow well, sure, but odin is a reference to odin and that dude was killed by sindri, so the creature exists in Canon. Although, yeah, probably not as cool as I would want it to be.

[@jeffcedeno2299]

Tbh why doesn’t Mimir recall any mentions he might have heard about Faye back when he was loyal to Odin?

[@mastermagugu9284]

Wish theyde make a dlc where you can play as faye in her battle against thor

[@DJ_LOONIE]

somebody needs to make a mod where you look and play as Faye in GOW ASAP, i saw a recent mod with TYR and it was sooooo good

[@derskalde4973]

One thing about this I don't understand: the ghost of Holger talked about "some sort of creature, the likes of which he'd never seen". If this drinking companion was Faye, why did he describe it as a creature? Wouldn't this mean, that there has to be someone else? Or was this creature a disguise she used? Why is he the only one talking about this?

[@cjkey5515]

Because Thor was drunk and Faye was furious. That’s how she defeated him 😂😂😂

[@imed-ha77]

No, she did not defeat him 😂😂

[@disturbed157]

It would have been more interesting if we find out Faye and thor were related. They're both giants (thor half giant). Would have been cool if they were siblings

[@mr.breadman4181]

Problem is if atreus did end up with thrud it would be awkward as they would be related

[@doodle8386]

@@mr.breadman4181 Meanwhile Kratos is in the back whistling awkwardly remembering his sister In law Aphrodite

[@mr.breadman4181]

@@doodle8386 yes

[@TheAdvance135]

Ohhh... So, that's what Thor meant when he said to Kratos, "This feels familiar", after they both clashed. He was trying to remember the fight he had with Faye.

[@macetotheface2391]

When I saw that clash initially I thought they had literally fractured the World Tree

[@yig_501]

playing through Ragnarok again so fn good but this story made me thoink that Fay's original plans for Kratos was just to use Kratos just like the Greek gods did but did actually fall in love and have Atreus

[@tabithachastain6999]

I bet some of the dwarves could forge something amazing with that frozen lightning

[@mouzecapo8598]

It was a draw nobody won

[@strawhatshinigami9190]

Its really annoying seeing ppl downplay this feat by Faye . Thor was drunken ,so what ? Even inebriated most beings would be killed instantly by him ,she wasn't.

[@Pattmore]

Agreed. Little fans don’t wanna admit that daddy Thor was nearly beat by a women. 😅

[@joelturner5957]

I have been looking for videos talking about the moment kratos says to Atreus this feels to easy and always thought that line was a giant hint at the game being a dream or simulation created by Odin to see what the outcome of ragnarok is and if we get a 3rd game will it lead to time travel since there is abit of time travel in how ragnarok

[@henrykberonio9008]

Thor is also a victim by Odin's depressed Grandpa issues personality Thor is just being used

[@3t1Me]

The fight that I would like to see is when kratos and Faye first met. I would 100% would like to see that fight in the next game in kratos's dream.

[@tayshaunalexander7621]

Honestly I lot of people says fayes death was unexplained but to me they gave a lot of pathways of what it coulf have been. To me she coulf have died of a sickness which would explain the funeral setup she did and always talking to kratos aa if she had no time left. Would also explain why she was so keen on kratos raising atreus. Or 2, she died in battle like most honorable warriors do. This story as well as her fight with kratos and the rebellion army proves she has a big fighting spirit compared ro the rest of the giants. Maybe one day that fighting spirit is what caused her demise.

[@teanobeano6838]

Well, she's a giant. Not a god like Kratos. I'm pretty sure she even eludes to this in Ragnarok. She may have had a much longer life span than normal mortals, but she still could age. Probably passed away from a sickness her aged body couldn't keep up with. Or died of natural causes.

[@Cool_Con19]

Faye saw Thor when he was was drunk and tired and sloppy and she was like GET OVER HERE

[@rosegaminqueenchlharmonyde3345]

If there dlc story for faye playable as faye it be awesome of her stories to fight agains't thor.

[@visionkrewmusik6472]

Million Giants later and Thor decides to join .. In Valhalla

[@angelfrom666]

I kinda wanna know what happens if Kratos fought drunk Thor

[@JustSomeGuy440]

Faye was enraged in this fight while Thor was so piss drunk that he was stated to be “sloppy”. Imagine if Thor was sober, and as enraged as Faye was

[@josephscott1292]

Only question is how they both survived. Faye would not have spared Thor for his destruction of her people and Thor doesn’t really spare people, drunk or sober. With them both in the state they were I highly doubt they would have left it at a stalemate.

[@keybladegames_real]

We don't know who won. It could of been a stalemate.

[@thesusman1776]

They should make a Faye DLC where she fights thor and meets kratos

[@charlestheking2567]

They can totally make a DLC with this ong

[@luistrejo3326]

7:30 could this companion would’ve been a tanuki?

[@deeshotcha2250]

Drunk on rage 🤯🤣 S/O Faye

[@arjef2402]

I think Loki game will uncover all of this. Who blew the horn and confirm the stories by time travel 😬

[@federicorodriguez8316]

I still wonder why they say she had fair hair, when in the dreams of kratos she has red hair. Even Atreus has it